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Quote# 136134

We are fighting for normal male sexuality, of which "ephebo-" and "hebe-" are merely subsets that don't need any special attention except to point out that they of course need to be legal, for basic moral reasons. At this stage of the game, before we have the power to change laws, we are mostly concerned with exhibiting contempt against the human scum who support the current laws. We aim to win the hearts of men and turn them against the feminists, which is better done without pathologizing labels.

Eivind Berge, EIVIND BERGE'S BLOG 14 Comments [1/22/2018 6:03:31 AM]
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Submitted By: bubba

Quote# 136104

It is a known fact that females are only attracted to the top 20% of men. And when they aren't fucking Chad, they are fucking each other while claiming to be bisexual. But before a female will even consider a sub 8 man, she would rather fuck a dog.

The average dog cucks 80% of men. If a female has a big dog that isn't neutered, you can assume they are fucking. Also most young girls have done the thing where they put peanut butter on their roastie and get the dog to lick it off.

And since an ordinary dog already AMOGs most men, no female would be able to resist having their orifices ravaged by Chad dog.

tehgymcel420, incels.me 17 Comments [1/22/2018 5:54:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136092

People lived short brutish lives in our ancient history, 30,000 years ago, often dying around age 30. If girls didn’t get started reproducing just as soon as they hit puberty, they might not have lived long enough to see that their own children made it to puberty themselves; people had to reproduce early, the species literately depended on it. Therefore, it’s no coincidence that the age of puberty starts somewhere before half the age of 30. It also explains why there are so many people accused of being pedophiles, that’s the way nature has made some of us, to be attracted to youth as a reproductive strategy. But rather than discuss why there seems to be so many “pedophiles”, we chose to just throw them in jail. Truth is, it’s the way nature made them through evolution.

We are still running on 200,000 year old software, and no stupid, recently created, feel good, socially constructed laws are going to change that. There was no supportive social services in those ancient times, and young girls who lost their families either died or grew up quick. The ones that were attracted to older men survived, and eventually reproduced. That is why you have girls who like older men, and men who like young girls. It’s an adaptive strategy that worked in the past, simple as that. Men taking in young girls was natures answer to a social safety net.

It also explains why the model industry has such young models, they know men are attracted to youth, beauty and neoteny (look up the word). No one really thought much of it back in the day when Calvin Klein was using a 14 year old Brook Shields as a model. Only recently are people outraged so much over so little. I really think it is so the deep state can use it as a way to control our politicians. Makes you wonder.

Why persecute people for the way nature made them if they are not hurting anyone? No wonder the birth rate in western civilization is declining. Unfortunately, as always, religious prudes are standing in the way of sound reason but try to get your heads around the idea, it’s a sound theory. It very well might have made the difference between the human race surviving, and not to acknowledge this possibility is just being unreasonable. The economy has changed but our biology hasn’t. There is nothing wrong with being attracted to girls, and boys, around the age of puberty. It’s just recently that young people can’t find work, and people are stretching their child like behavior all the way into their 30’s.

Throwing people in jail for having an interest in young girls, and boys, around the age of puberty is just predatory policing for money, just like with drugs. Lawyers, politicians, law enforcement types, persecuting people for non-violent crimes that shouldn’t even be crimes in the first place, like drugs, which is really just to defend the racketeering of the medical/phama industry, and to prop up their socialist make-work jobs.

Being attracted to youth doesn’t make one a monster, it’s the way nature made us. What does make one a monster is destroying the lives of innocent men, and women, who did nothing more than follow their human nature. Not only does it destroy the lives of men when they are taken to prison but destroys the lives of the families, and pets, that depend on them. Think of all the poor animals that get hauled off to animal shelters,and get killed because their owners get put in prison for stupid, non-violent crimes, feeding the prison industry. If I was a cop, I would have trouble sleeping at night for thinking about all the lives I’ve destroyed.



holocaust21,  Resisting the coming 21st century holocaust – Men's Rights, Youth Rights, Sexual Rights  17 Comments [1/22/2018 5:51:03 AM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 136162

I have forced myself on plenty of women and they've shown only gratitude for the experience. Emmett doubtless forced himself on no woman, but they feel sleazy about it after and so passive aggressively call him a rapist and a creep in some anonymous spreadsheet.

weev, Kiwi Farms 11 Comments [1/22/2018 12:07:11 AM]
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Quote# 136153

We need more misogyny in this world

Over the last two decades male testosterone levels have been on a steady decline. And if you look around the society you live in, you wouldn't find this hard to believe considering how cucked men in general have become. It's very apparent that a large percent of men these days are nothing but cucks, white knights, femoid worshipers, SJWs, feminists and boot-lickers, who not only let femoids walk all over them, but who would do anything just to placate the m'ladies.

Then there are certain men in particular who likes to say that how "woke" they are, and how they are starting to realize how the whole system is pitted against them. But, these so-called "woke men" are the first ones who would drop everything and defend the m'ladies when the times comes. They are just filled with Charlatans who don't actually believe in what they preach - I've seen it way too fucking often to say otherwise.

Real misogynists are honestly quite a few in the society we live in. But it is to say that we really need more misogynists in this world who would not put up with the degenerate behaviour femoids consistently display. And when I say misogynists - I mean hardcore misogynists whose opinions and views will not waver for the smallest thing. Really, how can society inherently improve when it's infested with cucks who would bow down to a cum dumpsters every whim? Misogyny is an essential factor needed in order to put femoids in their rightful place.

Lookismisreal, Incels.life 4 Comments [1/21/2018 7:36:36 AM]
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Quote# 136152

Females who call themselves as "queens" or "goddesses" deserve to be lynched

These days you cannot escape without seeing some useless femoid calling itself "queen", "princess" or "goddess"; either by adding one of those said titles to their username on an online forum or on a social media application, like Instagram or Facebook. But as always, these cunts don't stop there. They also want everyone to call them by it when referring to them. Like, just imagine your ego being so fucking high that you want a random person to address you as a "Goddess" - top level cringeworthy shit.

This massive superiority complex that femoids have among themselves is the direct result of the constant pampering society and the betas give them. Society treats bitches as angels who cannot do any wrong, while betas constantly validate bitches by complimenting them. This mixture of ego boosting have made cumrags to think too highly about themselves to a point where they now believe that all of them are top-shit. Honestly, I could somewhat understand if only Stacies used such titles, but some 3/10 bleached whale thinking itself as a queen? That's too fucking far.

You never see men referring to themselves as "Kings" or "Gods". Hell, even Chads/Tyrones don't do it. Even if they did, they don't demand everyone to call them by it, unlike cum dumpsters. Which actually show you how we live in a feminist superiority society. We really need to wipe out a good bunch of cum dumpsters out for good and keep the rest in a leash using patriarchy. Because shit is going to get way fucking worse if this degeneration continues.

Lookismisreal, Incels.life 14 Comments [1/21/2018 7:36:25 AM]
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Quote# 136149

This. In general, femoids are not intelligent enough to venture outside of simple materialistic desires. There is ample evidence of that; any femoid in a "leadership" position got there by virtue of white-knighting beta males and political correctness that propelled her based on what's between her legs rather than what's between her ears.

Femoids are voracious consumers by nature, so they invade any space available to them and then loudly demand that it be rebuilt to suit their desires. Videogames are just one example. Though we, the gamers, are partially responsible for the current state of things, because enough of us were deluded enough to think that "girls will play games with us, and then they will fuck us! YAY!" We all know how that turned out.

Now of course the world isn't made of absolutes, and I would imagine that there are a few femoids who are GENUINELY interested in the nerd culture, rather than driven by the desire to invade it, appropriate it, fuck it up and move on to something else. However, those are all genderless hambeasts that can barely be called human beings at all. The cute streamers that play CoD on youtuubs and spam their gofundme/patreon links every five seconds log off, and merrily skip away to fuck Chad and Tyrone. Forget the ten-foot pole; they would not touch us with a 100-foot one.

RichCel, incels.me 6 Comments [1/21/2018 7:31:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136148

Female nerds don't exist

Or rather, they're very, very rare.

The types of roasties on Jewtube that make attention-whoring videos about comic books and stuff (as well as their whiteknights) will get defensive and try and prove me wrong, but in doing so, they're missing the point. First of all, a woman that's genuinely into comic books is extremely rare. This is fact whether our cucked society wants to admit it or not. I know because I used to be really into them WAY before the "geek gurl/gamer gurl" type fads were a thing. I will acknowledge that they exist, but again, very rare. Moreover, look up the definition of a "nerd" and you will see that simply liking something "nerdy" doesn't make you one.

However, here's the thing: a femoid will not be ostracized and treated as a 2nd class citizen for it. In fact the opposite is true. But for men (especially back in the 90's and before) that was what happened. THAT is why we're "so defensive about them invading our spaces!" And these days it's still the case really; just we have so many hipsters and attention whores who pretend to like such things ironically it doesn't seem that way on the surface. But think about any guys you know that actually play D&D and stuff (not whores that feel the need to take a picture because they attempted to play it once for attention). What kind of guys are they? Hopefully you get my point.

But as for the few actual nerd girls out there, they still can't be incel as again, there are dudes who will fuck midgets, deformed people, you name it. And those nerd girls are just as (if not more) likely to spout feminist rhetoric, and they sit there obsessing over kpop band members all day and shit, often going on about how "ugly" regular guys are. So even for the rare few legitimate female nerds that do exist, they still have it WAY better socially than any male nerd.

Redpill Robert, incels.me 11 Comments [1/21/2018 7:30:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136147

I don't bother with femoids anymore everything they say is hypocritical and filled with deceit they treat incels like we aren't even human when all we try to do is be a good man towards them, while praising chad for nothing besides his looks.

jagged0, incels.me 5 Comments [1/21/2018 7:30:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136139

I WANT ALL YOU FUCKING FAKECEL NONVIRGINS OUT OF MY FUCKING BOARD

MODS STOP BEING FUCKING CUCKS AND BAN NONVIRGINS ON SIGHT

EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THREAD YOU SEE SOME FUCKING FAGGOT TALKING ABOUT HIS LOVE LIFE AND HOW MUCH SUCCESS HE HAS DATING

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT INCELS, THEYRE FAILED NORMALFAGS THAT DESERVE THE ROPE AND THE BULLET

DAILY REMINDER TO ALL YOU LARPING FAGGOTS OUT THERE THAT IF YOURE NOT A VIRGIN YOURE NOT A FUCKING INCELS

A NONVIRGIN CAN NOT BE AN INCEL. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A PERSON THAT HAS HAD SEX BEFORE TO BE AN INCEL (ESCORTSCELS ARE OBVIOUS EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE)

FUCK NONVIRGINS SHITTING UP MY BOARD

ITS NO FUCKING SURPRISE THAT ALL THE FAILED NORMALFAG NONVIRGINS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE POSTS IN THE THOUSANDS BECAUSE THEY KEEP FUCKING BRAGGING ABOUT THEIR FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER LIFE.

I HOPE ALL YOU SEXHAVING RETARDS GET AIDS AND HPV CAUSED CANCER AND WILL DIE

A TRUECEL IS KHV FOR LIFE

fagotonabike, Incels.me 11 Comments [1/21/2018 1:22:49 AM]
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Quote# 136128

The only way we can truly replace women

For a long time I thought sexbots were the answer. While they're getting better and better, they will never eliminate the problem of WOMEN themselves who will undoubtedly fight tooth and nail to ban and stigmatize them just like they have been with mail-order brides. Some say just exterminate the women after sexbots have effectively replaced them but 1.) Then we won't be able to reproduce and 2.) Even though women show us no sympathy, we can't stoop to their levels of cruelty. So, I have a better idea:

Bionic brains.

A.I. for sexbots is getting better and better, so why not have our cake and eat it too? After the beta uprising, women would all be rounded up and a chip or something of the sort would surgically implanted in their brains. This device would effectively turn real femoids into living Androids and eliminate all negative aspects of their personalities (hypergamy, greed, sluttiness, etc. It is the compassionate thing to do and works for everyone.

Thoughts?

Redpill Robert, incels.me 14 Comments [1/20/2018 1:26:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

More Misogynist Than FATAL Award

Quote# 136127

Blueprint for a utopian patriarchy

Blueprint for a perfect society - the NUP (New Utopian Patriarchy)

1. All femoids are blinded as babies by surgical operation. They also have their vocal chords adjusted so that they cannot make loud noises (shout or scream etc), and frontal lobotomies to prevent emotion.
2. All femoids have their clitoris surgically removed when young to prevent degeneracy.
3. Femoids are sent to brainwashing camps as babies where they will spend their entire youth. They are brainwashed into behaving as proper ladies in this camp, and that their life purpose is to serve men, who are their superiors. They have a strict regiment and diet to prevent any land whales. Lesbian femoids are identified and exterminated. They never find out about feminism or sex any of these evils.
4. Men are given good, happy childhoods and schools don’t have sports in them. They are evaluated closely and the thugs, bullies and jocks are removed and sent to a different school where they are trained to be manual labourers. The rest are well taught in the sciences and arts and how being brothers to each other is important in order to control femoids.
5. At the age of 18, the top 20% of hottest stacies are sent to work in government run brothels. This ensures all men can enjoy Stacy pussy free of charge whenever they want. Men can start using these brothels at the age of 14.
6. The remainder are then assigned husband/owners for life. The men choose which ones they like, and if there are disputes, then the men are awarded them based on their IQ, usefulness, productivity etc. This is a long and complex process.
7. Thugs and criminals are not given wives, they are sent to prison for life and/or exterminated.
8. A mans wife cannot leave the house without him, and must be draped in white robes to prevent any other man from ever seeing her body or face. This prevents jealousy or showing off.
9. A wife has literally no rights whatsoever and must do anything and everything the husbands requests.
10. There will be a government run department of plastic surgery which offers socialised plastic surgery.
11. The government eugenics program ensures that only attractive & intelligent people have children.
12. Any mention of feminism is banned under pain of death. The government strictly controls information, publishing, books, academia etc to control this.

MayorOfKekville, incels.me 19 Comments [1/20/2018 1:17:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136124

What's very sad is that in any century prior to the 19th her family would have just pressured her to marry young, she'd be knee deep in kids right now and a totally valuable member of her community. Instead men are jerking off to her building legos on the Internet.

The greatest tragedy of giving women rights is that they robbed themselves of all meaning and value in their lives. I really do feel immensely bad for the tragedy that has unfolded since the abolition of coverture. This poor girl is beautiful and a mockery of her self.

weev, Kiwi Farms 7 Comments [1/20/2018 1:14:15 AM]
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Quote# 136105

I have spent the past couple of months trying to teach myself empathy for females. It's just too hard. How can I have any empathy for the most spoiled, malevolent group of beings on the face of the earth?

I have tried to reason with what may be going through their minds. Maybe they're confused. Maybe they're lost. Maybe they're being taken advantage of. I have found the opposite to be true.

Females are the most spoiled, privileged group of organisms in the universe. Every single day these creatures get flooded with texts and snaps from multitudes of guys. There are literal male organisms lined up out the door to get their turn at a fehemhorrhoid. And what do they do in response? Nothing but bitch and moan and pout about how unfair life is, all the while they suck a million different dicks.

These malevolent beings are also the most ungrateful bunch of organisms on the planet. They will dump a guy for any number of reasons. If the guy doesn't live up to their ridiculous standards, they are gone at the drop of a hat. Female are totally incapable of genuine love. They only care about what can be done for them. When they are broken up with, it is not their heart that hurts, but their ego.

Finally, fehemhorroids are malicious and malevolent. They will constantly backstab their friends. They enjoy tormenting BETA males. They all think that the world revolves around them.

None of them have a fucking hobby, save for about 1 or 2. All they do is mope around on their fucking phones all day bitching about life all the while texting 12 different guys at once, while simultaneously slandering one of their "friends".

Why the fuck did I bother trying to understand them when I already understood them? And, just for the record, this is my GENUINE opinion. None of them knows what actual suffering is; they've been pampered with multitudes of friendships, guys, and parties since fucking middle school.

They don't deserve anything nice to be done for them. Don't hold the fucking doors.

ItheIthe, incels.me 17 Comments [1/18/2018 11:40:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136103

Lmao this some teen-fiction shit. Women find 80% of men ugly anyways, just fucking lol if you think they care that much about you to make "eww" faces or be like "omg look how ugly that guy is". You have to understand the default average guy is ugly to them. Roasties are too busy thinking about what they're gonna wear to the date with chad that night, they dgaf about you. Facts.

Masculinist, incels.me 3 Comments [1/18/2018 3:07:35 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136102

In my ideal society instead of imprisoning females who commit a crime, they would be sentenced to sexually service incels. Incel men could register to perform this service, no chads allowed since this would not be a punishment for females.

Sentence would vary depending on the severity of the crime. A minor offender might be sentenced to give blowjobs to incels. For serious crimes like making a false rape accusation would have a sentence of many rapes. For the most serious crimes you could sentence the female to a free-for-all gangrape?

If no incel wants to perform the sentence the female would be sent to jail, like in the case of old or unattractive females.

Seems like a win-win to me, incels would relieve their sexual frustration and be valued by society for performing a service that chad can't do.

Burncel, incels.me 9 Comments [1/18/2018 3:07:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136096

The aim of the Men's Rights Movement is to defeat the Puritan-Feminist morality which criminalizes normal male sexuality, and so far we have only failed. Not entirely for lack of trying, as I, for example, have made myself the worst Norwegian enemy of the state since Quisling in an attempt to overturn it, but we failed to affect policy at all. To win the sex war, we need someone like Tom Grauer of The Daily Antifeminist.

Eivind Berge, RESISTING THE SEX-HOSTILITY OF OUR TIMES 13 Comments [1/18/2018 10:23:30 AM]
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Submitted By: X

Quote# 136093

Morality is just an subjective concept, a social construct created by parochial minded religious people that are trying to make you submit to their antiquated group think. They often craft shaming language toward you, accusing you of having a “high hope for a low heaven.” Evil and morality are points of view. Picture a cat playing with a mouse. To the cat, he is just playing with his food. To the mouse, the cat is the equivalent of evil it’s self. This on the other hand, this is not evil; this is evolution adapting people to be attracted to youth as an adaptive strategy. It’s the way we have evolved and is why there are so many supposed “pedophiles” everyone is freaking out about.

This is the realist’s perspective who lives by natural law and understands evolution – Life is a question, asked of the Universe, “Is this right?”…and answered by death if it isn’t. We literally evolved, through evolution, to be attracted to youth and neoteny to survive! If the trait of being attracted to youth was not beneficial, it would not have been passed on!

So, every one, stop being uptight prudes, know that everyone is different, and just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean that it isn’t or wasn’t at some point a good thing. Older people taking in younger people, as companions, was natures answer to a social safety net; there was no welfare for them when their parents died at an early age. Can you imagine using the strategy that women do today, of waiting ’till age 30 to have kids, back when there was no medical system of any kind, with your teeth rotting out of your heads! You people are silly for not seeing the obvious truths of our own biological evolution.

Again, our biology hasn’t changed, only the laws, and peoples brainwashed, reactive monkey, herd-like perspectives. Think for yourselves people! We are throwing people in jail for stupid non-violent crimes longer then people who attempt, or succeed, in murder because some stupid politicians were grandstanding for tougher laws that we didn’t need. It doesn’t even begin to make sense unless you consider it is being used to manipulate politicians through deep-state intimidation. Seems to me some arm twisting like that would explain a lot about the crazy decisions our politicians have made. I would say the age of consent of 12, like in Mexico, is about right for a legal cut off. Nature gave us every thing we need to consent to sex and that is the drive to have sex. I was a horny little bastard at 12, and so was everyone of that age around me. If you deny this, you are not only being disingenuous with yourself but everyone around you as well. Perhaps your memory is faulty, and doesn’t go back that far?

Do other animals wait for a certain age to have sex after they become able to sexually reproduce? No. It’s just as stupid to put limits on it for us after one has reached puberty. People had jobs at those ages 100 years ago. My father would be 92 this year if he was still alive, and he told me that when he was 14 he earned a man’s wage reading water meters. The population was younger in the past, on average, than they are now. In 1900, 18 percent of all American workers were under the age of 16. Child laborers often worked to help support their families. In colonial America, child labor was not a subject of controversy. It was an integral part of the agricultural and handcraft economy. Children not only worked on the family farm but were often hired out to other farmers. Boys customarily began their apprenticeship in a trade between ages ten and fourteen. Years ago each child you had made you richer, you could tend another acre of crops. Now, each child you have makes you poorer or if you are too poor to support them, burdens on the system.

The economy has changed but our biology hasn’t. We are keeping young people in school, which is essentially just giving them busy work to keep them out of the real economy, and treating them like kids longer and longer because the economy can’t support work for them, as it has all been outsourced due to globalism. The system is all screwed up, and people are too concerned about being called names rather than speak out about the real problems in western society.

I see a globalist system, which has shipped all our jobs over seas, and implemented silly laws restricting sex WELL beyond the ages of puberty. It looks more like a means of genocide to me. Those people in the middle east aren’t exactly having a shrinking population like Europeans in the west are. Yes, the young people are still having sex because they have a high sex drive, as nature intended. Nothing is going to stop that but instead of society pushing them into safe, monogamous, long-term relationships, they are making it to dangerous for that. Yes, these elites know what they are doing to us, and have been doing for a long time now. I think it’s genocide.

Grandparents were a rare breed until 30,000 years ago… when life expectancy grewhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2016759/Life-expectancy-Grandparents-rare-breed-30-000-years-ago.html

90 percent of a womens eggs are gone by age 30http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/women-fertility-falls-lose-90-percent-eggs-30/story?id=9693015



holocaust21,  Resisting the coming 21st century holocaust – Men's Rights, Youth Rights, Sexual Rights 4 Comments [1/18/2018 8:47:08 AM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 136058

hot take; men are inherently evil and the only way that women can live a truly happy, free life is to remove men from it completely



womynbornwitch, Tumblr 10 Comments [1/17/2018 12:13:42 PM]
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Quote# 136051

5 Men Who Substantially Upgraded Their Women

David is a lifelong dissident and intellectual rebel. He despises political correctness, which replaces real, needy victims with narcissistic leftists out for a free meal. Though still a young man, he has watched society descend into its present morass with great sadness, combined with a determination to help make things better. He tweets when there's something worth tweeting here.

The sexual marketplace need not suck all the time. Plenty of men have laid out the path for you, often initially shacking up with the women they felt they deserved and then moving onto greener, hotter pastures. If you’re in doubt, take a look at the following men who saw the light and found themselves a better-looking woman.

[...]

Have you got the courage to find someone better?

If your relationship with a woman honestly works, all power to you. For many men, however, things are not so rosy. In a number of cases, these guys will be much better off by cutting their losses and finding someone they not only think but know is better. Are you one of those men who might need to make a change? Think it over.

David G. Brown , Return of Kings 13 Comments [1/17/2018 7:59:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136049

Do Not Try To Help A Woman Who Is A Victim Of “Domestic Violence”

David is a lifelong dissident and intellectual rebel. He despises political correctness, which replaces real, needy victims with narcissistic leftists out for a free meal. Though still a young man, he has watched society descend into its present morass with great sadness, combined with a determination to help make things better. He tweets when there's something worth tweeting here.

Helping women who claim to be victims of “domestic violence” is one of the best ways to suck up your own time, not to mention inject unnecessary emotions and drama into your life. Most of the time, your attempts to help will not be met with gratitude and, in fact, will frequently garner hostility from the person you are trying to “save.” Moreover, the target of your rescue mission generally doesn’t want to be saved anyway.

There is no need for anger or bitterness when you wash yourself of a woman claiming domestic violence, as hard as suppressing those emotions may be. Like someone dependent on drugs, an obese person, or another kind of addict, plenty of women are addicted to the rush of either a violent man (who is part of a small minority of men) or the thrill and attention of claiming to be the victim of a violent man who isn’t actually violent. Any logical, rational advice you give will invariably engender her opposition or inaction.

Particularly if a woman returns to her “abusive” boyfriend or husband after you have tried to save them, helping someone claiming domestic violence leads over and over again to unnecessary, sometimes aggressive or violent conflict with third parties. Even when this does not happen to the worst extent, you find yourself invested in an emotionally unstable woman, whether she causes the instability herself or not.

Most important of all, there is usually no evidence to support claims of domestic violence, bar the fickle testimonies of the couple. If you choose to help, you are almost certainly engaging in a wild goose chase with next to no merit. In today’s climate, asking a woman to do the dishes is probably considered domestic violence.

My experiences

Does the helping hand really help? Most times it doesn’t.

I learned fairly early on in adulthood that helping women “abused” by men is typically a fruitless exercise. For example, around the age of 19, I attempted to intervene in a situation where a female friend was being told, among other things, that she was worthless by her boyfriend at the time. At one stage, he even told her to kill herself. With zero sexual interest in the girl, I simply thought the guy’s behavior was wrong.

Yet, rather than thanking me for my assistance, my advice to this girl was greeted with histrionics and ingratitude. It also attracted a series of threats from her boyfriend, none of which eventuated. I had brought myself into heated verbal exchanges with this guy, without it having any impact whatsoever on the girl. If anything, the whole saga solidified her feelings for him. Aside from maybe interjecting in the “kill yourself” part, I had wasted my time completely. Nevertheless, it was a great lesson to learn so young.

I came to realize that women like this ex-friend are positively attracted to men like him. No amount of investment in time or energy would deter what were emotional longings for Mr. Demeaning. Second-hand experiences I had before and after this situation suddenly began to make sense.

#WhyIStayed and other similar bullshit

The internet exploded with questions about [Janay Rice] … why didn’t she leave [Ray Rice]? Why did she marry him? Why did she stay? I can’t speak for Janay Rice, but I can speak for Beverly Gooden. Why did I stay? … Leaving was a process, not an event. And sometimes it takes a while to navigate through the process. I believe in storytelling. I believe in the power of shared experience. I believe that we find strength in community. That is why I created this hashtag. I hope those tweeting using #WhyIStayed find a voice, find love, find compassion, and find hope.”

— #WhyIStayed “creator” Beverly Gooden promoting Beverly Gooden


Yes, because hope, rather than self-preservation, will save a woman who is a victim of actual domestic violence.

In addition to biological drives that impel women to stay with or seek out domineering sex partners, boyfriends, and husbands, good old feminist “storytelling” also motivates females in sticking by or returning to men that they claim hit them or, much more ambiguously, “mistreat” them. A whole cottage industry has developed to support the narrative that women can and should stay with supposedly abusive partners.

If we’re being brutally honest, #WhyIStayed and other feminist call signs keep swarms of feminist typists gainfully employed. They sustain the small rate of actual domestic violence so that these typists can continue to publish articles, despite them being highly exaggerated ones.

Of all the modern-day battles we could say are uphill because of perverse cultural conditioning, seeking to assist a woman who claims to be abused takes the cake. Realistically, what are your prospects of dissuading a woman from what is usually a self-determined, psychological, or biological course of action? If you say your chances are relatively high (whatever that means), is the expenditure of time and energy really worth it? The impact on your own life is likely to be much more than you anticipate.

An exception to the principle for sisters, female cousins, etc.

Doing more for family still makes sense, with limits.

There are some common sense exceptions to what I have been saying. If you or your family have more skin in the game and find one of your relatives in trouble, you obviously should try harder. Inasmuch as family units have been eviscerated in recent years, blood and similar ties still count for something nowadays.

Bear in mind, however, that many of the same limitations you have with female friends or acquaintances will apply in large part to your relatives. Maybe you will draw the biggest line when it comes to protecting your (future) daughter, but the rest of the time you are probably gnashing your teeth over sisters, cousins, or other female relatives who will just not listen to you (and who are in all likelihood gilding the lily about the level of mistreatment, too). If laying down the law doesn’t work the first or second time, cut your losses and move on for the time being.

There may come a point when you need to involve police for the very small minority of cases that truly warrant it. That is your call. And, of course, I am not advocating against helping women when you know at the gut level that they need it. What I am saying is that you need to avoid being a martyr in circumstances where being a martyr, literally or figuratively, is against your own interests.

Remember, most women either don’t want to be saved or are willing to cost you your state of mind and resources should you put yourself on the line for them.

David G. Brown, Return of Kings 3 Comments [1/17/2018 7:59:20 AM]
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The Last Jedi: De-Feminized Fanedit (aka The Chauvinist Cut)

Specs: 1280×720, x264, 46 minutes, MP3 2.0 audio

Basically The Last Jedi minus Girlz Powah and other silly stuff.

It would probably be easier to make a list of things that were kept instead of things that were changed. Hardly any scene got away without cuts.

The resulting movie is (wait for it …) 46 minutes long.

Yeah I know, it’s not ideal. It’s made from a CAM source (the most recent HDTC one with the Asian hard subs, which is pretty watchable). It has issues. But it had to be done.

You will probably enjoy it most when you view it less as a blockbuster movie and more as some kind of episode from some non-existent mediocre Star Wars series.

Here’s a short rundown of changes (spoilers! full list in description.txt):
– No whiny/reluctant/murderous psycho Luke.
– NO HALDO! She simply doesn’t exist. Her whole subplot doesn’t exist. The Kamikaze is carried out by Poe. ( = Poe dies.)
– Leia never scolds, questions nor demotes Poe.
– Lea dies. Kylo kills her.
– Kylo is more badass and much less conflicted and volatile.
– Kylo takes on more of Snoke’s guards, Rey struggles with a single one.
– No bomber heroism by china girl in the beginning.
– No Canto Bight.
– No superpowered Rey.
– Luke is not a semi-force-ghost and is smashed by the first laser cannon shot. (sorry, I just had to!)
– Phasma is finished after the first blow by Finn. (Women are naturally weaker than men, she isn’t force-sensitive, and we know nothing about any exo-skeleton in her suit)
– Asian chick speaks less, doesn’t bully Finn, Finn doesn’t try to escape, she is never formally introduced. She is just there and occasionally smiles at Finn or screams “Finn!”. She has no sister. Serves her right for all the heinous stuff she did.
– Lots of little cuts reducing the number of female facial shots. Too many to count. (Pun intended.)
– Quite a few scenes rearranged so that the flow of the shortened movie is still somewhat coherent.

Obviously it’s far from perfect. The source is not even on DVD-level. Some of the technical edits were slacked because why not, it’s a CAM source (e.g. some masks and Snoke disappearing). Sometimes there’s an extreme zoom despite the mediocre quality. There are plotholes and continuity errors and some cuts are not as smooth as they should be, especially audio transition-wise. But for what it’s worth, it can now at least be viewed without feeling nauseaus about most of the terrible big and small decisions they made in this film. Also, at least the intro sequence is now very watchable and actually much cooler without all of Leia’s nitpicking. Now it’s all one united Resistance fighting without inner conflict and that’s much more satisfying to watch. Due to the extreme shortening, the whole movie is much more fast-paced now, at times unfortuantely also rushed due to a lack of usable filler footage


Anonymous, Pharyngula 16 Comments [1/17/2018 3:34:43 AM]
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Would I let Michael Jackson (or his apparition; the real one is, of course, dead) babysit my son? No. I would not entrust my 15-months-old toddler to the care of Michael Jackson’s ghost, if ever such a prospect arises.

{holocaust21: But why ever not? If, as you assert, there’s no harm coming from “sexual abuse” then why such a statement? Besides, Michael Jackson always seemed like an eccentric but actually relatively nice guy. So any sexual abuse from him would be the fun kind ??}

“But why ever not? If, as you assert, there’s no harm coming from “sexual abuse” then why such a statement?”

The thing is, I’m not sure if pederasty is entirely harmless. Now, as I alluded to in my post about the boylovers, I want pederasty to be legal; but just because I want it legal, doesn’t mean I want to engage in it or have people I care about engage in it. The reason is that usually people grow up to be attracted to one sex and not attracted to the other, and in particular, men who are straight (at least 95%) are grossed out by gayness. That means that if my son is straight, like the overwhelming majority of men, sexual contact between him and other men could be as repulsive to him as it’s repulsive to me.

If Michael Jackson was Michaela Jackson, a woman who loves to molest little boys, perhaps I’d think differently. Pretty sure I’d be fine if a female babysitter molested me with blowjobs and so on when I was a toddler. In similar vein, if I had a daughter, I would probably not mind that much about letting a male pedo babysitter molest her by e.g. jerking off over her or something similar. But when a boy who is (presumably) straight is made to endure gay sex, which is similar to the gay sex that occurs in the prison showers, that is potentially harmful, because unlike straight sexual contact, gay sexual contact goes against his nature, statistically speaking.

If (1) my son actually were born to be gay; and (2) I could know about it in advance, then I wouldn’t mind letting (the ghost of) Michael Jackson molest him all night long. But so far he doesn’t exhibit the behaviors of a little faggot, so I’ll stick to my “only females are allowed to molest you” policy regarding him.

dailyantifeminist, The Daily Antifeminist 6 Comments [1/17/2018 3:34:25 AM]
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That’s a good point Alan. But you’ve got to remember that the police aren’t subject to their own laws, so whilst the Danish police are busily arresting children for viewing images of children being fucked the police themselves will be viewing those same images and fapping off to them. Not only that but when they arrest those kids for viewing images what do you think they will do with them? They will fuck them of course!

So the “hell” that the police experience will be a hell in which they won’t be – and won’t be able to be – police officers. They’ll instead be arrested when they view child porn and brutally tortured in prison. They’ll experience the same hell the rest of us do!

holocaust21, Resisting the coming 21st century holocaust – Men's Rights, Youth Rights, Sexual Rights 7 Comments [1/16/2018 3:15:54 PM]
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Quote# 136032

(Responding to a person who believe that minors on minors is fine, but not adult on minors.

holocaust21 says:

I deleted some of your other comments as I feel you’re just spamming what you’ve already said. However, this comment amuses me as your rules for when to have sex sound more complicated than the tax code! And in a way that’s what this blog is protesting about, we don’t want sex to be a regulated activity.

And no, sex with minors is perfectly fine. A 30 year old with a 12 year old is totally normal!

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mandy jones says:

Sorry, sometime I repeat myself without realizing it.



holocaust21,  Resisting the coming 21st century holocaust – Men's Rights, Youth Rights, Sexual Rights  4 Comments [1/16/2018 3:15:50 PM]
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