Quote# 136468

(From the awful fairy tale anthology A Wild Swan and Other Tales, the preface to his version of Beauty and the Beast)

You’ve met the beast. He’s ahead of you at the convenience store, buying smokes and a Slim Jim, flirting with the unamused Jamaican cashier. He’s slouching across the aisle on the Brooklyn-bound G train, sinewy forearms crawling with tattoos. He’s holding court - crass and coke-fueled, insultingly funny - at that after-hours party your girlfriend has insisted on, to which you’ve gone because you’re not ready, not yet, to be the kind of girl who wouldn’t. You may find yourself offering yourself to him. Because you're sick of the boys who want to get to know you before they’ll sleep with you ("sleep with you" is the phrase they use); the boys who ask, apologetically, if they came too soon; who call the next day to tell you they had a really great time. Or because you’re starting to worry that a certain train is about to leave the station; that although you’ll willingly board a different train, one for marriage and motherhood, that train may take its passengers to a verdant and orderly realm from which few ever return; that the few who try to return discover that what’s felt like mere hours to them has been twenty years back home; that they feel grotesque and desperate at parties that they could swear had wanted them, had pawed and nuzzled the, just last night or the night before. Or because you believe, you actually believe, you can undo the damage others have done to the jittery gauntly handsome guy with the cigarettes and the Slim Jim, to the dour young subway boy, to the glib and cynical fast-talker who looks at others as if to say, Are you an asshole or a fool?, those being his only two categories.

(In his version of Beauty and the Beast, Beauty is an uncaring, haughty, passive-aggressive bitch who fantasises about being raped by her father and by the Beast, is disappointed that the Beast does not rape her, and agrees to marry the Beast mostly to spite the people of her home village. The twist ending is that the prince was evil all along, ending on "She backs away. Grinning victoriously, emitting a low growl of triumph, he advances.")

Michael Cunningham, Das Sporking 15 Comments [2/7/2018 4:04:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 136373

Empowering women will have roughly the same deleterious effect on Western Civ that empowering Jews has had.

Heartiste, Gab 8 Comments [2/5/2018 4:13:13 PM]
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Quote# 136372

The report offers explanations for the rise in single mommery that reiterate most of what I’ve written on the topic: namely, female economic independence, State welfare as Daddy substitute, the Pill, and male economic stagnation are the big incentives fueling the increase, largely through the mechanism of reducing the number of fertile-age married women.

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This is basically the “I don’t need no man, I’m an empowered careerist shrike” phenomenon, which, as you will read, created a premarital sexual market feedback loop encouraging men to demand sex from women without offering marriage in exchange.

The report authors conclude that the cause of the rise in single mommery is NOT primarily a consequence of negative economic trends. Instead, they blame affluence for weakened family stability.

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When women no longer needed marriage (because women were economically and reproductively self-sufficient), men no longer needed to barter marriage for sex. Now where have you read that before? Oh yeah…..HERE. [Link is to a CH post from 2008]

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There is a contingent of tradcon-ish righties who balk at the idea that the State and the social norming of working women create disincentives for women to marry; but here we are, data in hand showing exactly that.

The report authors conclude that male economic fortunes aren’t the main cause of the decreasing marriage rate (and subsequent rise in the single mommery rate). However, I note that the authors make the critical analysis error of ignoring the reality and impact of female hypergamy. This is a very common flaw in these studies, but it’s a critical flaw because women don’t judge the status of men in absolute terms; women judge the marriageability (the bux) and romantic worth (the fux) of men relative to other men AND relative TO WOMEN. Read on to see what I mean.

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I’ll clear it up for the authors: Hypergamy. As women have seen their career prospects and personal incomes rise, economically stagnating men have been hardest hit by women’s innate desire for higher status mates. A working class man is a catch for a jobless single woman, but he brings nothing to a working woman who already has her basic needs met. And as women rise occupationally and financially, their attraction for higher status men than themselves rises along with their own economic status. This leads to working women choosing men based on non-provider mate value cues, or choosing to drop out of the marriage hunt altogether.

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I’ve mentioned this before [indeed you have]: working women disincentivize male resource provision (there are those sexual market feedback loops again), and the corollary to that is economically vulnerable women incentivize male resource provision.

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Ensuring the economic self-sufficiency of women has created the single mom crisis.

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On this subject, I’m a pessimist. Good times create…and all that. First, there’s the loss of purpose that accompanies the Automated Life. This hits men especially hard, because men, unlike women, don’t primarily get their sense of purpose from raising children and chatting up the neighbors hoping for gossipy dirt. Men get their purpose from work, from achievement, and (yes) from sexual conquest.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 8 Comments [2/5/2018 4:13:05 PM]
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Quote# 136351

The truth is that, from either a religious or atheist view, women were made so that they could be dominated by men. Attempts to bypass that truth result in negative population growth and the eventual demise of the species.

alpha_male, AtheistForums.org 13 Comments [2/5/2018 4:05:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Sick-of-fundy-shit

Quote# 136348

It is imperative to resist the disproportionate foregrounding of cishet male loneliness because the structurally oppressed manifest their benign loneliness symptoms differently from those who suffer from the malignant disease of thwarted entitlement. Buried inside the lonely-men essays is the threat disguised as suggestion that we feel concern for Lonely Men because Lonely Men can turn violent. This is a red herring in much the same way that alcoholism is used as an excuse for male violence; the problem isn’t alcohol or loneliness but patriarchal masculinity. Meanwhile no surgeon general is declaring racism or misogyny to be an epidemic despite the increasing number of people literally being killed by men “suffering” from these states of mind. It takes a special kind of self-centeredness to be able to cite stats that show that marriage hurts women’s life expectancy and continue to advocate it as a solution to save lonely men instead of trying to fix the toxic husband syndrome that is killing women. Men who demand that women concern themselves with the problem of lonely men in order to ensure their own safety are issuing the same hackneyed threats that patriarchy entrenches—a disguised demand that women invest their energy in socializing boys, in dating men, in doing even more care work than we already do.

Looking at some of the funded programs tackling the “epidemic” it becomes clear that creating spaces where men can feel free to be misogynists is one of the effects of how men warp community responses to loneliness. The first Men’s Shed—a community space where mostly older men could get together to work with their hands and socialize—was set up in Australia in 1998 and by 2010 was receiving funding from the Australian government under its National Male Health Policy. (There are no Men’s Sheds for any of the men trapped in Australia’s detention centers for the crime of being refugees on a boat.) According to the U.K. Men’s Shed Association the rate of growth of Men’s Sheds is between six and nine new sheds a month. (The U.K. government is planning to remove domestic-abuse shelters from housing benefits. On average in England men kill two women a week.) Public policy approves of self-segregating spaces with “old-fashioned mateship and . . . no pressure” (a liability-free way to say “No Homo No Feminist Cooties”) where men can be cajoled and lured into being cared for. Meanwhile sex workers, drug users, and transgender people are more likely to be harassed and jailed by police than be provided with spaces where they can be gently encouraged to talk about their loneliness.

Even though there’s scientific evidence that older people’s brains benefit from learning “something that is unfamiliar, and which requires prolonged and active mental engagement as you cultivate a new set of behaviors,” none of the men saving men seem to think of teaching men feminism. Or noncompetitive dancing instead of walking football. Or even just how to talk face to face. (Women’s magazines have been filled with helpful tips on how to attract a man for decades; perhaps the forlorn gentlemen looking for companionship might start with those?) In spite of all the studies pointing out how aged women have better coping skills—and, therefore, health—than aged men, toxic masculinity has conspired to misrepresent the happy ending of crones, hags, and witches as a scary fairytale. No lonely men talk about parenting, or about helping their male parent friends socialize their male kids in a less toxic fashion. All of them turn for advice to psychologists and sociologist experts, none suggest taking relationship advice from the demographic they keep citing as doing it better—women.

Individual loneliness is a fickle, nebulous sensation. Like other emotions, it is deeply situational—it makes a difference whether you feel lonely because every time you walk down the street a slur is shouted at you or you feel lonely because the spouse you beat every third night has finally left you. As individuals we are not owed freedom from loneliness any more than we can demand love from those we want it from. But collectively we can recognize patterns of loneliness as symptoms of awful structural injustices. And we can use our loneliness as impetus to work toward systems that ethically meet our social and emotional needs. The way to help alleviate the loneliness of the oppressed is to continue to destroy oppressive structures and support organizing and resistance. The only way to ethically survive loneliness is to look at labor: to ask who performs care work for me, who I perform it for, what systems are viable and where I transmute being abandoned to resistance.

Men who demand empathy for their gendered fear of dying un-cared-for, unwanted, and unmourned without referencing feminism are acting in bad faith—they would like us to pretend there is no distinction between the solitary deaths of an abuser and an abused person. They would like gendered consoling while remaining indifferent to the deaths they, as a gender, are responsible for. They would like cosmetic cultural change while believing that emasculation is bad, as though it is horrible to change out of being a toxic oppressor. They would like us to care about men as men, when there are people—disabled, old, sick, poor, queer, migrant, discriminated-against PEOPLE—who are dying and are lonely. Those are the ones we should be focused on. If some of them happen to be men, well, let us try to not hold it against them.

Amba Azaad, The New Inquiry 10 Comments [2/5/2018 4:04:25 PM]
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Quote# 136347

The Bloomberg article linked above mentions that feminists in Portugal recently made it a criminal offence to ‘sexually harass’ an under 14 in the street, with a punishment of 3 years in prison. I have no idea if believing that the girl was older would be enough to spare you in court. All these inititives are based on the Council of Europe’s ‘Convention On Violence Against Women’, which the International Sexual Trade Union fittingly held in Istanbul, the literal meeting point of Western puritan feminism and Islam. The convention calls on all European countries to outlaw street harassment, and specifically calls for any public behaviour which ‘reduces a person to a sex object on account of their gender’ to be criminalized. Every country in Europe signed up to this feminist anti-male hate charter in Istanbul, but so far only a few have actually put it into law. Membership of the Council of Europe is even wider than the EU, so even Brexit can’t stop the UK implementing its treaties.

theantifeminist, RESISTING THE RAPE OF THE MALE – REAL MEN'S RIGHTS 5 Comments [2/5/2018 3:45:05 PM]
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Submitted By: X

Quote# 136346

It is utterly tragic that MRAs aren’t given the respect they deserve. It’s truly galling that just because their entire worldview was formed around a profound sense of entitlement induced by watching thousands of hours of harem anime, no one takes them seriously. It’s heartbreaking to think that people dismiss them out of hand just because – instead of addressing actual issues like the rates of suicide and depression among men – they focus on dumb shit like editing out all the parts of The Last Jedi that aren’t centred around men.

If that last thing sounded too ridiculous to be true, you have clearly forgotten which time it is that we live in and the corresponding fact that pretty much nothing now is too ridiculous to be true. We live in the most aggressively ridiculous timeline. Accordingly, the self-described “chauvinist cut” of TLJ is very, very real, and exactly as dumb as it sounds.

Uploaded to The Pirate Bay yesterday by an anonymous user, the “The Last Jedi: De-Feminized Fanedit” is, according to their own description “basically The Last Jedi minus Girlz Powah and other silly stuff“. You might be wondering how this is possible, seeing as the film is still a ways off from its DVD release date, but the intrepid nerdlinger(s) who decided to make this possible were so impatient for a version of TLJ where boys don’t get old off that they used a dodgy camrip with hardcoded subtitles:

The resulting movie is (wait for it …) 46 minutes long. Yeah I know, it’s not ideal. It’s made from a CAM source (the most recent HDTC one with the Asian hard subs, which is pretty watchable). It has issues. But it had to be done. You will probably enjoy it most when you view it less as a blockbuster movie and more as some kind of episode from some non-existent mediocre Star Wars series.

If you’re wondering what sort of stuff was cut, here are some examples:

* “Cut out most shots showing female fighters/pilots and female officers commanding people around/having ideas.“
* “NO HALDO (sic)! She simply doesn’t exist. Her whole subplot doesn’t exist. The Kamikaze is carried out by Poe. ( = Poe dies.)“
* “Leia never scolds, questions nor demotes Poe. He is a respected and very skilled high-ranking member of the resistance.“
* “When there’s a scene where a woman is cut in making some important statement that can be substituted by another statement by a guy, then she gets cut out. Works pretty well actually.“
* “Wookie eats the Porg, or at least isn’t interrupted in trying to do so.“
* “No green milk.” (What the fuck)

As you can see, it is clearly the product of a deranged mind. It’s so perfectly bad that it might just be a troll but, for the love of God, I downloaded it to check (please don’t tell the cops) and all the edits they say are in there totally are, so I can’t imagine this was all that far away from someone’s actual convictions.

Whichever weirdo threw this together is also not entirely sold on it:

Obviously it’s far from perfect. The source is not even on DVD-level. Some of the technical edits were slacked because why not, it’s a CAM source (e.g. some masks and Snoke disappearing). Sometimes there’s an extreme zoom despite the mediocre quality. There are plotholes and continuity errors and some cuts are not as smooth as they should be, especially audio transition-wise.

But for what it’s worth, it can now at least be viewed without feeling nauseaus about most of the terrible big and small decisions they made in this film. Also, at least the intro sequence is now very watchable and actually much cooler without all of Leia’s nitpicking. Now it’s all one united Resistance fighting without inner conflict and that’s much more satisfying to watch. Due to the extreme shortening, the whole movie is much more fast-paced now, at times unfortuantely also rushed due to a lack of usable filler footage.

Dear, God.

Anonymous Misogynist on The Pirate Bay torrent site, Pedestrian 11 Comments [2/5/2018 3:44:48 PM]
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Submitted By: SpukiKitty

Quote# 136345

One of the problems with all these senseless shootings is that if ever a real activist appears, such as an MRA, he is going to be lost in the noise. So gentlemen, can we please stop killing people for no good reason?

Eivind Berge, Twitter 3 Comments [2/5/2018 3:41:55 PM]
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Submitted By: X

Quote# 136344

The issue of "anonymity for the accused" is another example of how the alt-right has utterly failed men and instead doubles down on feminism. The only sensible MRA position is complete transparency on accusers and the accused alike.



Eivind Berge, Twitter 6 Comments [2/5/2018 3:41:42 PM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 136339

Shudderthought of the Day: What if Big Pharma has created this androgyne self-annihilating estrogenically virtue shrieking society we currently inhabit because the Pill causes women to prefer limp beta males and ibuprofen feminizes men to prefer manjaws, so that the two find each other compatible and work together to bring the End of the West?

Heartiste, Gab 15 Comments [2/5/2018 7:46:55 AM]
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Quote# 136330

The fear of pedophiles, apart from the very few violent ones, is really a fear of children and what children are capable of, a bizarre phobia against child sexuality.

Eivind Berge, Twitter 4 Comments [2/5/2018 7:41:42 AM]
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Submitted By: X

Quote# 136310

True. people who think sex robots will replace women are deluding themselves. We will always seek validation from women. and when they all cheat and cuck us, then we'll still be chasing them. This is why we need to enslave women before this happens

TheVman, incels.me 9 Comments [2/5/2018 7:39:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136305

Women are NOT human!!

HuMAN means "of the man" in Latin. It refers strictly to men.

Even Darwin knew, and this has been proven genetically, that women are far less evolved than men and closer to primate ancestors.

Early Darwinians classified women as a separate species -- Homo Parietalis -- while men were Homo Frontalis.

In Greek, Indian and a variety of other religions, women are considered evil spirits reincarnated.

Women were never considered people. "Are Women Human?" -- In the year 584, in Lyons, France, 43 Catholic bishops and twenty men representing other bishops, after a lengthy debate, took a vote. The results were: 32, yes; 31, no and it was declared that women have inferior souls, between men and animals.

Even if you do consider women as part of men, it is clear that they're not fully human!

WomanBeater, incels.me 15 Comments [2/5/2018 7:36:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136434

[Note: the source link directs to this screencap, not to the actual Gab post]



[Yes. I am fine with sexbots and/or genetically engineered sex slaves and artificial wombs and just outright elimination of females entirely. I have been unable to formulate a logical argument against that position, at least.

Dolls are bretty weird tho.

I had a chat with my lawyer and my money is basically dried up. Just an update.

I'm gonna figure out something I can post so no one thinks I'm bullshitting on that.

Lawsuits are expensive.

I have no way to receive anything other than crypto right now.]

Andrew Anglin, Gab 9 Comments [2/4/2018 11:32:59 AM]
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Quote# 136430

#Meetoo has been a real eye opener for men about how much women hate us, and for how absurdly trivial reasons they want to destroy you. Think about that next time you are wondering if a woman deserves sympathy for any reason.

Eivind Berge, Twitter 5 Comments [2/4/2018 7:17:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Knight

Quote# 136428

Naive young woman got a lesson that there is no such thing as a nice male "friend" who doesn't want sex, duh. And no amount of feminist propaganda will turn men into that fiction.
http://dailym.ai/2FIaq0l via @MailOnline

Eivind Berge, Twitter 8 Comments [2/4/2018 7:16:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Knight

Quote# 136413

[Putting this in sexists because of the hashtag, alt-rightists really need to stop breaking our categorization system]

A woman.
A black woman.
Fucking idiot.
#WomenWillBeTheDeathOfTheWest



WestDeclines, Twitter 10 Comments [2/4/2018 1:33:26 AM]
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Quote# 136412

A little while ago I saw cited yet another Harvard study supposedly proving that women CEOs are just as good as men, except better, not withstanding the fact that anyone can see that women in charge are profoundly disruptive and destructive, that women can no more run a large group than they can chop wood with an axe, pilot a plane, do science, or clear a path through the jungle with a machete, that putting a woman in charge is pissing away shareholder’s assets, as divorced women piss away their husband’s and their children’s assets, so I thought I would remind you of this golden oldie:



Click on the graph to see it in its full glory.

Is not science wonderful? I have been finding a pile of similar science data not just in global warmering, and in studies of demonic males viciously oppressing saintly women, but also dietary science, medical science, biology, and even string theory and materials science. These days, the way to get ahead in any area of science is to discover that your field has some political relevance that is unlikely to occur to any sane person, and then produce data that supposedly comforts the oppressed and saves the earth from cruel exploitation by white males. For an added bonus, you can destroy the careers of your colleagues as oppressors of the weak and vulnerable, because back in the bad old days they upheld the old evil theory (now refuted by your new data) for no reason other than hatred of some saintly victims and desire to cause harm to those saintly and long suffering victims.

Jim, Jim's Blog 4 Comments [2/4/2018 1:33:06 AM]
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Quote# 136410

Why is there still no pro male sexuality movement?
Well, a handful of us tried, but failed to gain a significant following. It is truly baffling and sad that men don't care to show up for the gender war, letting the feminists win on walkover.

Eivind Berge, Twitter 10 Comments [2/3/2018 2:31:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Knight

Quote# 136409

A great satisfaction of having a coherent morality is that you can denounce your enemies with righteous hatred. Because I am an MRA, I seethe against the moral cripples who believe that being in a supervisory role to a teen girl should create a sex crime.

Eivind Berge, Twitter 6 Comments [2/3/2018 2:29:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Knight

Quote# 136395

Eivind Berge
@EivindBerge
Translator and men's rights activist. Also passionate about Bitcoin and antipsychiatry

Eivind Berge, Twitter 8 Comments [2/2/2018 2:50:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Knight

Quote# 136390

What's the difference between a girl getting fucked by another guy a few weeks into dating you vs. a girl getting defiled by another guy(s) a few weeks before meeting you? I hardly see any.

In either case she has given her body to another man. In either case she will never be fully yours. In either case you will never be her one and only. In either case another man (men) have seen every square centimeter of her body. In either case she has had another man's dick penetrate her. In either case she has experienced the most intimate feeling with another man.

I only see about a 1% difference. I will never marry a nonvirgin lol. And I'm not worthy to marry a virgin myself so I'll be alone, but honestly I prefer it this way.

ItheIthe, incels.me 15 Comments [2/2/2018 11:33:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136389

Another victim of feminism. Mark Salling was about to go to prison for 4-7 years for the victimless crime of child porn, but instead killed himself? It is time to wake up, gentlemen, and join the pro-male-sexuality movement.

Eivind Berge, Twitter 12 Comments [2/2/2018 11:31:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Wayne Knight

Quote# 136388

You have to be a moron to believe online "child sexual abuse" such as sexting is harmful, but it doesn't take much evil to want to criminalize it. Evil always wins.

Eivind Berge, Twitter 4 Comments [2/2/2018 11:31:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Wayne Knight

Quote# 136311

Sometimes I get really mad that I wasn't born gay

It almost seems like a pipe dream to not have to think about women ever again, I've been blackpilled way too much on them.

Seriously, these fucking whores have pretty much only negative traits, if it wasn't for their sexual values, no one would really want anything to do with them. Even their personalities are ABSOLUTE shit, funny how they think they deserve guys with both good personalities and good looking faces/bodies. Their entitlement knows no fucking bounds, etc, etc, etc. I can go on and on about how much I hate them, I wish I was fucking asexual.

IT IS MENTAL TORTURE TO THINK ABOUT THIS EVERY DAY. WHY DOES MY BRAIN DESIRE THESE CUNTS DESPITE ALL THE THINGS I KNOW....FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

inb4 "cope".

whogivesafucc, incels.me 14 Comments [2/1/2018 5:42:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie