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Quote# 2398

Maybe you can find the city of Troy, but you do not know all the truth. For example, did Helen of Troy run off with her boyfriend as he claimed, or was she kidnapped as her husband claimed. There is no question about the truth of the Bible stories. But the Greek stories often have a lot different versions to them.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 10 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2399

I have read it, and you think King James didn't write the Bible, do you think that was just a convient name? LOL

Inspired, Christian Forums 14 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2400

Do you honestly feel that paleobiologists and their ilk, whose degrees will only earn them a living while the T[heory]o[f]E[volution] is still considered a valid scientific pursuit, and will end up flipping burgers if it is ever proven wrong, would ever publish evidence that damages their livelihood?

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 21 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2401

Just because you call it pure nonsense doesn't make it so. Just because it's a theory about a conspiracy, doesn't make it wrong. People make choices, and then avoid the consequences, lie to cover it up, and catch other people up in their webs. It happens all the time. Why is it so uneasonable, given the circumstances, to believe the worst about the T[heory]o[f]E[volution]?

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 0 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2402

How about the Ice Age? Geologists found all of these fossils and rock formations, and heard about the T[heory]o[f]E[volution], and decided that since it was true, there must have been an Ice Age.

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 7 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2403

The fact that various people who claim to be Christians work in this branch of science [evolutionary biology] doesn't alter that one iota. Take a good hard look at the people who profess to be Christian, and ask yourself how many of them even come close to the ideals set by Jesus. Is it any surprise that they have abandoned his teachings?

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 3 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2404

[Replying to 'Your attacks on Evolutionary Theory stem from a gross misunderstanding of many biological processes']This is a laughable statement. Let me re-phrase it for you so that it says the exact same thing, but in an accurate way: Your valid concerns with the ToE have been dealt with by changing the ToE. While your arguments were totally valid a few days ago, we are now talking about something completely different. This is how we've stayed in business for two hundred years (almost). Now go away, or we shall taunt you a second time!

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 5 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2405

That Cretaceous impact [that wiped out the dinosaurs] was just another step in His plan to terraform the earth. The lush jungles and fatty deposits of the animals of that time became our oil, and tar for sailing ships, and the newer, cooler climate was perfect for sowing deciduous trees, grasses, conifers, and the creatures that would live among them.

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 8 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2406

If evolution were occuring today, we would see the things it predicts. All theories predict what one should see if they are correct. Well, we SHOULD be seeing things changing into different creatures. Somewhere, it ought to be happening. A fly should be turning into a beetle, or an earthworm into a lobster, or a monkey into another type of man. I'd settle for a bacteria turning into a rotifer at this point. We ought to be seeing intermediate animals all over the damn place.

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 11 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2407

Since everywhere we look, we are not seeing five-assed monkeys falling out trees and being eaten by three-assed dogs, one could speculate that perhaps, just PERHAPS, mutations do not stick around.

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 15 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2408

Well, that's the THEORY, anyway. Of course, no one's ever seen it happen, or found an intermediate fossil that proves the graduallist viewpoint. They've found stuff that supports punctuated equilibrium, but PE is just a convoluted way of saying God, so why not just cut to the chase?

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 9 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2409

Evolution occurs in sudden giant leaps, remember? That means that one day you have hyracotherium, and the next it births the next one in the chain. 'Punctuatedly equilibriumized' refers to the genes in mama and papa that will combine to become a whole new species inside mama. I know, I know, it sounds ridiculous. Imagine the difficulty I had swallowing it. I'm just repeating it back to you.

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 16 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2410

The male's size doesn't matter, he's not giving birth to a whole new larger species, the female is. Only his genes matter.

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 14 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2411

Remember the 'Mars life-bearing rocks'? Those scientists found fossilised TRACES OF BIOCHEMICALS. This point is mine, all mine, and I'm not relinquishing it. No fossils = never existed.

FearlessLeader, Someplace Somewhere 5 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2412

Then how does one explain the origin of the complex courtship rituals of peacocks and men? If evolution favors simplicity, why isn’t rape our standard modus operandi? Certainly it is simpler and more efficient than chocolates and dinner-with-the-parents.

Albert Cipriani, Internet Infidels 16 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2413

I think you're trying to turn this into something it's not. You can't equate personally rejecting Christ with not believing the accuracy of a historical account. [...] This is apples to oranges stuff. If you don't believe Jesus rose from the dead, then you're rejecting your only hope to escape the punishment we all deserve for our sins.

Don, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2414

The basic fundamental beliefs (or presuppositions) of the atheistic philosophy claims that we live in a universe that is eternal (meaning, not created), and that the universe operates by randomness and chance. And that all that exists is matter in motion. So, we conclude the following.... 1.There can't be any absolutes (since this contradicts the belief that the universe is random and chance-like (a Darwinion presupposition as well) 2.There can not be anything supernatural or anything non-material. 3.We can't know anything (since knowledge may evolve) A consistent atheist would have to live his life not doing or saying anything, but just waiting. If there are no absolutes or non-material things then laws of science and math can't exist. Neither can the laws of logic exist (thereby stripping the atheist of his capacity to debate or reason about anything, or have any sort of intellectual discourse). Morals don't exist (so the atheist can't throw in the argument that since God is all-good and all-powerful, then He can't exist since evil exists as well. Yet, evil presupposes a standard of good, and that standard is God).

DanTheMan, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2415

Everything i have read in the bible shows God not to be a very rational supreme being. And his ability to ...... i cant even express the pure magnifacance<sp>of the lords abilties. But i do believe god has set forth the laws of the universe and followed himself to whatever end this crazy rollercoaster ride is for.

Bico, Rapture Ready 9 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2416

It's scriptural for me to pray for victory over our enemies. If you don't like it you can pray for the other guys.

RoyWM, Christian Forums 0 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2417

I do agree that a Muslim ruler or majority would be disastrous though. They are only 'tolerant' when they are in the minority.

brewmama, Christian Forums 4 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2418

do you assume that gravity exists in the Andromeda galaxy? I mean, we see stars moving and such (and moving really fast at the center), but who's to say that gravity is causing it?

xian, Internet Infidels 14 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2419

[Replying to 'we SEE gravity']no we don't. we see movements of stars. we assume gravity is causing it. why do you assume that?

xian, Internet Infidels 9 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2420

IMHO unicorns were dinosaurs. Since they were unknown when the KJV bible was translated, the Hebrew word was mistranslated into English.

Socratism, Theology Web 9 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2421

Scientists are people too, and atheistic agendas will suppress a lot of information from the public mind

Truth in Faith, Christian Forums 4 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2422

Because there is so much evidence for His existence (and also His Resurrection btw) that to question it is comparable to questioning the existence of JFK.

spl_cadet, Theology Web 19 Comments [3/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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