Quote# 8553

[After starting a thread on <a href="http://www.christianforums.com/t2377830-quote-mining-no-fact-stating-s-j-gould-essay-disclosing-the-debacle-of-darwin’s-ev.html" target="_blank">Stephen Jay Gould's essay Opus 200</a>, the <a href="http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_opus200.html" target="_blank">essay's source</a> goes offline a few days later.]

What a Co-ikeedink! Today, Gould’s Opus 200 is Apparently No Longer Present on Web.

This thread is related to the thread… Quote Mining? No, Fact Stating. S J Gould Essay Disclosing the Debacle of Darwin’s Ev,… due to associated reference materials that have been discovered to have been subsequently removed from the web.

After a year of visiting this reference of S J Gould’s Opus 200 Essay on the Web, <a href="http://www.stephenjaygould.org/libr...ld_opus200.html" target="_blank">http://www.stephenjaygould.org/libr...ld_opus200.html</a> [link is broken, that's how it appears in the post] , still active just a couple of days ago when I posted the thread,.."Quote Mining? No, Fact Stating. S J Gould Essay Disclosing the Debacle of Darwin’s Ev" ….today gives this reply upon request for accuse …The page cannot be displayed.


What a co-inkeedink. This may be part of the magic of how evolutionary information….can appear…and then just….disappear…. all based, of course, on its validation or invalidate of the desired conclusions and perceptions that are desired to be presented…. Zap, Zap …its like reading a story about Harry Potter.

You don’t suppose there may have been same ‘persuasion’ applied to … make it disappear. No,…of course not, this couldn't be based on the coincidence that the site may have gotten several hundred hits, or more, during the past two day and its publisher may have received some negative responses as a result of its content.

Why that’s unthinkable. Such a notion would be preposterous. It’s a universal and well known fact that the evolutionist community is far too fair and objective about the issues relating to the subject of evolution to ever dream of selectively screening any information on the subject from easy access to the public.

They are much too open with all information whether pro or con as its applies to the subject of evolution. Why the record of their balanced public educational policies stand as a living testimony of that fact? Surely evolutionary web sites would not censure information perceived to challenge any aspect of evolutionary credibilty.

Before today the page was found ‘occupied’ through Google, Stephen Jay Gould Opus 200 or equivalent. The choice displayed is …. Stephen Jay Gould, “Opus 200,” 1991. If you locate another copy of Gould’s essay Opus 200 on the web, not evolutionist commentary about the essay, (they're still there) or if this site comes back on line let me know. I’ll be very surprised to get many takers for that request from the evolutionist group ….

Edmond, Christian Forums 13 Comments [12/7/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8508

AND, if God had made us unable to sin, there would be no evil, there would be no need for Jesus--- THEREFORE, His Glory would not have been able to shine AS BRIGHT! TO REVEAL His grace and His mercy AND FORGIVENESS! This is what it's all for!!! Not so I can be happy in Heaven but so that JEsus is seen in His true Light!!!!!! It's all for him!

Anna Carol Fancher, Myspace 28 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8510

Consider yourself lucky your ancestors were converted at swordpoint. The Atheists murdered about 6 million of my ancestors in the gas chambers during WWII. They had no such lucky break.

PMC IIII, Internet Infidels 48 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8514

Against welfare, promotes lazyness and look at what happened in Great Britain. The people that bombed those buses were being paid for not working.

Steve, Myspace 15 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8515

There is nothing in the theory of evolution that is provable beyond a point at which two of every living thing could fit in an ark. After the great flood, there was a great divergence of life which could be called evolution. None of this is contradictory with the Biblical account of Genesis. Nothing that is KNOWN in science can contradict the Bible. It is the unknown, unproven, unobserved, unverifiable and untestable accusations of evolutionism that we object to being taught as proven science. We do not want our children taught lies. That wolves and coyotes could have a common ancestor is not beyond the realm of possiblity. That Gorillas and grapefruit have a common ancestor requires the believe in the impossible.

What should be taught is what is known, not the impossible theories of atheists wrapped up in lies and packaged as science.

brilliantLiberal, Free Conservatives 21 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8516

Saints arent Of Jesus Christ, you are talking about a Catholic word.
Catholics do not believe Jesus is the son of God.
So Catholicism is a Satanic Religion because it is not of God.
Anything that is not related to God is Satanic.

Santa, Saint and Sanct (sanctification which is used in the Roman Catholic Church becometh of transubstantiation) are all Satanic.

So Santa is Satanic.

Paveway117, Christian Forums 30 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8520

Christianity is reason and logic, reason and logic are threats to the Atheistic world view. Christianity = threat to Atheism...

aaron11, Free Conservatives 37 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8521

One Sunday on my way to church, as I got out of the Detroit-Windsor tunnel and into Detroit, as I was turning down Jefferson St to get to the freeway, there was a man screaming and yelling at no-one. He was yelling towards across the street but there wasn't anyone even there. I binded the demons operating in the man and commanded them to shut up ans stop tormenting this man in the name of Jesus. Although he did not even see me, as soon as I took authority over those demons in the name fo Jesus, he stopped screaming and yelling and walked away.

the J Man, Bibleforums.org 34 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8522

[Two anonymous fundies beat up a science teacher who intended to teach that creationism and ID were mythologies]

A professor whose planned course on creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he sent e-mails deriding Christian conservatives was hospitalized Monday after what appeared to be a roadside beating.

University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki said that the two men who beat him made references to the class that was to be offered for the first time this spring.

Originally called "Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies," the course was canceled last week at Mirecki's request.

The class was added after the Kansas State Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in science standards for elementary and secondary students.

"I didn't know them," Mirecki said of his assailants, "but I'm sure they knew me."

One recent e-mail from Mirecki to members of a student organization referred to religious conservatives as "fundies," and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat face." Mirecki has apologized for those comments. [...]

"I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind," he said. "They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out."

He said the men beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object.

Wempe said Mirecki drove himself to the hospital after the attack.

Mirecki told the student newspaper, the University Daily Kansan, that he spent between three and four hours at the hospital. He said his injuries included a broken tooth.

"I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he told the Lawrence Journal-World.

Anonymous Fundies, Witchita Eagle 18 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8523

Most Republicans seek equal rights. It's Democratic liberals who sue Christians who openly display their faith and opress people.

Josh, Myspace 21 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8524

Nice fake little story trolly trolly.

No social or fiscal conservative would be associated with FSTDT , I'm sorry but your just full of crap . Next Time try to at least be honest and say your anti-christian Bigot .

Republican_Legion, Free Conservatives 29 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8525

Listen guys, we're being sold a bill of goods that doesn't add up.

A virus causes a SPECIFIC disease. It MUST be present in the human body to be the CAUSE of the disease. AIDS is NOT a disease, but a condition brought upon the human body due to a septic condition within the body with which the human immune system cannot keep up.

That septic condition is caused by the introduction of fecal material into the bloodstream as a result of perforations in the rectum due to repeated anal intercourse. This is compounded by the use of "poppers" (amyl/butyl nitrate). Poppers relax smooth muscle tissue (sphincters being included) which makes anal intercourse less painful...they are also the leading cause of Kaposi's sarcoma - one of the main "symptoms" of "AIDS".

By the way - why is it that one of the most brilliant minds in virus research is all of a sudden "cut off" for nothing more than stating a contrary viewpoint? Especially when that man has the brains and research to back up his claims? WHY isn't HIS side of the argument being, at LEAST, investigated to see if it "holds water"?

Again, like I said, "money"....follow the money. We're being scammed and it stinks to high heaven.

Timberwolf, Free Conservatives 21 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8526

[about evolution]

Molecular biology will be the weapon that defeats your 19th century religion.

DoctorDoom, Free Conservatives 22 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8528

[Suit Filed To Take "In God We Trust" off of Currency]

Christians - we have to act now before it's too late! Everyone join together and make a difference. We are headed for some very hard times if we don't act now!

rhssm, Christian Forums 9 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8529

Yes... all the issues you named are very important. Not really my point. Basically this is one more step to the name of God being pushed away. It's one more step to this nation falling and not including God in the center of it. Yes, I know - not everyone believes in God. But regardless, I know He exists and I know that when He is included in things, blessings and peace will flourish. When people begin to try to do things on their own and lean on their own understanding and don't include the words of God in their life, destruction eventually results. Our country was founded on God, and of course, to an athiest, that would mean nothing. I'm aware of that. But the fact that this nation was founded on God, is why we've been strong for so long. Our country has held on to morals, not been perfect, but been more of a Godly nation than most. And those morals are now deteriorating. When that happens.. this going country's going down the toilet. Why? Because there will be more people with more twisted ways of thinking, more people with very few if any morals, more people who care more about serving themselves than God

rhssm, Christian Forums 11 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8530

['So do you think God likes to be associated with money?']

I think God doesn't like to shunned and pushed to the side. It's just happening again in another form this time.

rhssm, Christian Forums 8 Comments [12/6/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8492

[On the "Crying" Virgin Mary in Sacramento, 'For men who have been seeing hoaxes like this for years, an explanation is impossibly easy.']

Hoax? You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all the time. Do you think that Christians are morons who will believe everything and anything they are told?

Orthodox_Freethinker, Internet Infidels 53 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8493

I believe I've covered the whole situation on incest but here goes again.....
The children of the children of Adam and Eve wouldn't be mutated and deformed because the evil and bad things hadn't taken hold yet. Adam and Eve's children probably would have mated at say 16 or 18 years after the Fall. The first death was at the Fall so that was the second bad thing that had happened. Things such as STD's and deformities hadn't had time to come into being because sin hadn't been around for long. After those children had children, they wouldn't have to marry their siblings, but maybe like their cousins. There is less of a chance with cousins because they aren't as genetically close as siblings. After the next generation, they could mate with aunts, uncles, second cousins, or others. There is even less of a chance, and by then, there is a lot of people since they all had long lives ( Adam lived for over 500 years). Proving even that sickness hadn't taken effect.

awesomestnerd, SmashBoards 11 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8494

I think Santa is everything that is wrong with Christmas...it is yet another way parents choose to control their children using threats instead of teaching them right from wrong...you know, "nice boys and girls get the toys they want because Santa is watching"...

More than laughs..., Myspace 17 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8495

I never believed in santa, and im happy i didnt. im glad i didnt spend my whole child hood believing in a lie. furthermore, Christmas is about the birth of Jesus Christ.

Jacki, Myspace 17 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8499

The Vatican document is actually aimed at solving that issue. heterosexual men do not molest kids, homosexual men do.

Lestat, Free Conservatives 32 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8500

You see, gay people as individuals have the same rights as anyone else, but there are other things that come with marriage according to the government, such as additional healthcare. There are non-Biblical concerns such as what do we do when Ted gets bugs on his weiner from fudgepacking on Billy? Should the government pay for a decision they made that they KNEW would almost assuredly give them aids?

† Matt †, Myspace 20 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8501

1. Why did the Freemasons put so many evil symbols on the dolloar bill, the Capitol building, throughout Washington D.C., etc... such as the eye of the devil in the mountain/pyramid?

2. It is a fact that many of the presidents of the U.S. were all masons as well as the current one, his father, and Chaney-Why does Bush always make the symbol of the devil with his fingers in worship to Lucifer? Is he being pressured by the others Freemasons in Congress to do so? Do you make the same symobol, or are you not at the same level he is on?

3. It is a fact that the Freemasons who are members of the Bohemian Club participate in Canaanite occult rituals. The president and many other wealthy elite males are members of this organization where human blood offerings are still done. Are Freemasons capable of worshipping spirits of darkness and God at the same time?

artissues, Bibleforums.org 22 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8503

even good deeds done by a nonbeliever is still sin.....

Anna Carol Fancher, Myspace 48 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 8507

the g*y man that "discovered" the g*y gene admitted later to having made up the whole story. He followed with that saying that it didn't matetr that anyone now knew he made it up becuse the damage was done.

I'm afraid I'm not willing to but into any of that. NASA also calimed there was a huge ozone hole over the US. Later they admitted they lied. Point is, trusting doesn't come easily anymore unless it's what you wanted to believe all along.

EarlyCall, Bibleforums.org 27 Comments [12/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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