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Quote# 2581

all presidents and powerful people are occultists, but they fulfil different roles, as christians or muslims etc. They need the world to believe that diversity of religions make conflicts, to establish a one world religion under the rule of the biblical antichrist and prosecute the loyal christians saying they are "closed minded" and have "old patterns of thought" and are "keeping the earth to evolve". This is the kingdom of the beast prophesied in matthew 24 and revelation 13, that the churches don´t want you to know.

loko, EvC Forum 1 Comments [8/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2583

['Tell me, why is it that we don't find the bones of humans laying together with the bones of these dinos?']

Because the scientists interpret the evidence under a confirmation bias. If they found a dino fossil next to a human fossil, they would just sweep it under the rug. I'm sure they've found human and dinosaur bones in the same layers, it just doesn;t make it to published articles.

Bible Defender, Christian Forums 15 Comments [8/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2584

[Explaining why humans and dinosaurs are not found in the same layers of the geologic column.]

Consider also that dinosaurs were much larger. Now, imagine violent seas and swirling sediment, the heavier animals and the ones with greater bone density would likely work their way down farther. There are still some smaller animals in with the dinosaurs, yes, but that could be caused from a number of things.

Bible Defender, Christian Forums 3 Comments [8/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2585

I wish some other creationists would help me. The flood becomes harder and harder to support when you get more information.

Bible Defender, Christian Forums 46 Comments [8/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2586

We're not going to let evolutionists walk all over us when their theory is in direct conflict with the fact of intelligent design. I don't want school children being fed misinformation.

Bible Defender, Christian Forums 11 Comments [8/5/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2565

<a href="http://www.ufoevidence.org" target="_blank">ufoevidence.org</a> IS NOT a dead link! "Philadelphia Experiment" & historic reports ignored from various sources, and all crop circles called hoaxes, contrary to the cellular transformation detected in non hoaxed circles, Technion Israel Institute of Technology & Amos Ori called nonsense for now trying to put theory into a device to time warp, ALL physicists on "time warps" at Google ignored as evidence, atlan.org has various mythology matches to consider, that match what the Bible says, <a href="http://www.mkaku.org" target="_blank">mkaku.org</a>, & there's more, but this is not the thread for this.

How's that for ignored evidence, besides ignoring every Bible quote as invalid? Attack mode there!

John16:2, Christian Forums 1 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2566

I can assure you that no one will have "fundamental reproductive rights" when Jesus takes his throne on this planet.

Beautiful Feet, Rapture Ready 11 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2567

I wonder how much money is at stake keeping evolution alive. Money for scientific grants, and museums, and magazines, and TV programs, and the list goes on.

How much money would be available
If they were to agree evolution never happened?
Would billions of dollars be lost?

I am sure there are scientists who "believe" in evolution,
but how many more scientists might have "doubts"...

but have a family to feed........

and big grant money coming in....

and so they find it best not to rock the gravy train?

Because their doubts.... might even lead to their losing their job?

Bystillwaters (his wife), Rapture Ready 11 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2568

Also, bear in mind that Mayans=pagans. Therefore, nothing in their religion concerning the spiritual realm could possibly be true with the exception that it leads to hell.

prairiedog, Rapture Ready 4 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2569

The banana-the atheist's nightmare.

Note that the banana:

1) Is shaped for human hand
2) Has non-slip surface
3) Has outward indicators of inward content:
    Green-too early,
    Yellow-just right,
    Black-too late.
4) Has a tab for removal of wrapper
5) Is perforated on wrapper
6) Bio-degradable wrapper
7) Is shaped for human mouth
8) Has a point at top for ease of entry
9) Is pleasing to taste buds
10) Is curved towards the face to make eating process easy

To say that the banana happened by accident is even more unintelligent than to say that no one designed the Coca Cola can.

Ray Comfort, The Atheist Test Website 73 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2571

If someone believe modern man been here for 150,000 years then it would seem you have to believe that man was as dumb as an ox for atleast 140,000 of those years why then beg the question where did this super knowledge suddenly came from. Maybe a man was struck by lighting huh? Or maybe aliens are involved as in Stargate?

Smidlee, Christian Forums 30 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2572

[Replying to a thread about a child bringing home a book from school about different kinds of families, which includes two same sex couples.]

Yeah, they want to get to them as young as possible. They want to neutralize them so pedophiles have a shot at them at earlier ages. Stupid parents embrace this nonsense and of course when they get alittle older "situation ethics" will help validate this ungodly stuff. It's just another sign of the times.

felixthecat, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2573

[Replying to a thread about a child bringing home a book from school about different kinds of families, which includes two same sex couples.]

What do you expect from the teachers since it seems so many are bent on sexually assaulting the students under their care? If they are sexual preverts then I am sure teaching a homosexual agenda doesn't bother them.

ShoutToTheLord, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2574

If you think it's bad now, wait 'til the ACLU and their kind get rid of the age of consent laws for minors. Then parents will have nothing to say about their little ones having sex with adults, whether heterosexual or homosexual. Parents will get arrested for trying to stop it and kids will have been taught that it's fine and normal.

That's the brave new world they are after, it's Sodom they want, it's children they are after and traditional parents are in their way. It starts with a village, instead of a traditional family with one man + one woman.

The traditional family and Bible-believing Christians are the enemy.

Why Bible-believing Christians and not other Christians? Because many denominations/churches/people call themselves Christian while having no ties to God's Holy Word. So, will all Christians oppose this agenda?

Or will the Judas kiss help bring about this brave new world? And that is no "better than you Christian game" it's where the truth lies, in the BIBLE.

Kyrie Eleison, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2575

[A presentation of fundie sarcasm]

Come on guys... diversity is a good thing. I think that it should be mandatory reading for all kindergartners.
I'm currently working on a series of childrens' books along the same lines:

"Alfred The Homosexual Turtle" Can Alfred and his partner Gary beat Rudy the Randy Rabbit in the annual Pride race?

"Lesbians Are Our Friends" A frank discussion of lesbianism, intended for grades K through 3.

"Bob's Adulterous Adventure" A series of three books, which chronicle the misadventurous Bob on a zany quest to cheat on his wife. Can Bob get away with it? Will his wife leave him and win custody of children? Read this book and find out! Recommended reading for 1st and 2nd graders!

"How to Lie with Conviction" A primer for 3rd graders

"Young Detective Agency and the Mystery of Zealottown" Can the detective duo Joe and Karla Young escape from the Christians and solve the mystery of Zealottown?

[Edited for post length, but the entire thing is funny]

Medic911, Rapture Ready 27 Comments [8/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2558

It's going to be VERY sad on that final judgement day, when people are going to be confronted with the fact that all these things they revelled in WERE, in fact, SINS and... as they are going to their fiery eternity, they're going to be looking at the one who 'embraced it' and 'didn't judge' ... I have this vision in my mind... and saying, "Why didn't you tell me!!?" These peoples' blood is going to be on their hands, and they're going to have to answer to Christ for it. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God....

My Abba's Child, Rapture Ready 15 Comments [8/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2559

I was an atheist most of my life, since the age of about 12. After ditching the tooth fairy, easter bunny and santa claus, God was next in line. This was my liberation. I was of the opinion that there was no God, and that all rational people should draw the same conclusion. The only thing that could possibly budge me from my position was EVIDENCE.

Well, in September 2004, I got the evidence. Absolute proof in fact. I got it shortly after I wrote message 666 on the 3rd anniversary of 9/11. Message 666 was the culmination of my 37 years of searching for the words to describe my ideology/religion (as an atheist I was STRONGLY supporting freedom and human rights). You can read about message 666 here (I've posted it before):

<a href="http://antisubjugator.blogspot.com/2005/07/sign-of-beast.html" target="_blank">http://antisubjugator.blogspot.com/2005/07/sign-of-beast.html</a>

However, as you have probably guessed already, the proof that I was given was not independently scientifically verifiable. Which means you have no option other than to dismiss it. Or at most, you can only accept it as a theory. So anyway, here is the "theory":

We are living in a computer simulation, and God is the computer programmer. This model does not require supernatural powers. All it requires is for us to have computer technology more advanced than we have at the moment - Artificial Intelligence for starters. In a 15 billion year history, don't you think it is quite improbable that we happened to be born just when computers, nukes and the internet were invented? And also just when the USSR collapsed opening the way for worldwide freedom. And on a millenium year as well. A mere 1 million years either way would have drastically altered the simulation. Hell, even 1000 years either way would have drastically changed things.

I believe the universe is only a few decades old. God didn't sit around twiddling his thumbs for 15 billion years waiting for us to evolve. The whole thing is simulated. The whole universe is just a "virtual reality". We're probably really on a space ship, and this simulation is being run for entertainment purposes (can you think of anything better than a virtual reality to keep yourself entertained?).

And the reason God doesn't want to prove his existence is so that people will become atheists and be totally free. This is what he wants. He doesn't want to tell people how to live their lives, he wants us to make up our own rules. The only way we can be totally free is if we believe there is no God, or at least, that there's no God who's going to sit in judgement. In actual fact, we are all NATURAL ANIMALS. None of us are sinners. We all act in accordance with our genes, reacting to our environment, and using our imperfect logic skills. None of these things are our fault.

Anyway, my point is that there is definitely an intelligent entity in another dimension to us. So if you're a hard-core atheist, think again, because you're actually wrong (even though I can't scientifically prove that to your satisfaction). You need to update your model and allow for the possibility of a God, and convert to agnosticism instead. BTW, a computer simulation gives a logical reason why we can't reproduce life from raw ingredients - the properties are defined in software, which we don't have access to.

kerravon, Internet Infidels 42 Comments [8/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2560

The simple fact that there is intelligence on earth now means there had to have been intelligent design.

Even the simplest life forms on the planet have "intelligence". They consume energy in one form or another. They do things to surive, to maintain homeostasis. Why would they do that? How do they know how to do that? Why would they ever do it to begin with? To survive? How do they know what survival is? Why would these organisms even care if they survived? Why would they make an effort to survive?

Even macro evolution in and of itself would be strong evidence of intelligent design. Why would an organism get stronger? How does human skin know that a callus will protect it from abrasion injuries? How would life know to create antibodies to fight disease?

watcher22, Bibleforums.org 18 Comments [8/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2561

TOO OFTEN PEOPLE SAY THEY HAVE SPOKEN TO THE DEAD. THE LATE JAMES A. PIKE, A PROMINENT EPISCOPALIAN BISHOP, STATED HE TALKED TO HIS DEAD SON, JIM. ACCORDING TO PIKE, HIS SON TOLD HIM: "I HAVE MASSES OF PEOPLE AROUND ME, AND HAND LIFTING ME UP, AS IT WERE...I WAS SO UNHAPPY UNTIL I COULD MAKE YOU KNOW."
SUCH EXPERIENCES ARE WAY TO COMMON, THEREFORE, IT IS APPARENT THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN WITH SOMEONE FROM THE SPIRIT WORLD. THE BIBLE IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS WHEN IT STATES: "AS FOR THE DEAD, THEY ARE CONSCIOUS OF NOTHING AT ALL." (ECCLESIASTES9:5) SO IF IT IS NOT THE DEAD WHO ARE SPEAKING FROM THE SPIRIT WORLD, WHO ARE SPEAKING. WHO ARE MAKE-BELIEVING TO BE THESE DEAD PERSONS?
WICKED SPIRITS ARE, OF COURSE. THESE SPIRITS, OR DEMONS, ARE THOSE ANGELS WHO BECAME UNITED WITH SATAN IN REBELLION AGAINST THE ALMIGHTY GOD. BUT WHY DO THEY PRETEND TO BE PERSONS WHO HAVE DIED? THE IDEA IS TO ADVANCE THE SUGGESTION THAT THE DEAD ARE STILL LIVING SOMEWHERE ELSE. THIS TALKING TO THE DEAD OR (WICKED SPIRITS) HAVE ALSO LED MANY TO BELIEVE THE LIE THAT DEATH IS ONLY TRANSFERRING TO SOME OTHER LIFE. TO SPREAD THIS LIE, WICKED SPIRITS USE SPIRIT MEDIUMS, FORTUNE-TELLERS AND SORCERERS WITH SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE THAT ONLY SEEMS TO COME FORM PERSONS WHO HAVE DIED.

chrisfol, Debating Christianity 10 Comments [8/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2562

['How did our government let our country get to this point?']

You can thank Bill Clinton The democrats and monica Lewinsky for the trouble we are in now.

Pendragon, Rapture Ready 17 Comments [8/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2563

I just had a very eerie thought while working--this may have been addressed before, if so, I apologize. We come to this board for fellowship, to keep each other up on current events, to gather as believers and support each other. Are we being watched? There are many groups out there that think the "religious right" and Christians are a bunch of whacks that present a threat to the coming governmental plans, One World Order, etc. Could they be watching and what do they glean from our posts? Of course, with God for us who can be against us, but there are some mighty evil and powerful people out there that don't like the intelligent discussions we are having--we are too smart for them. Just a thought.

Momoftwo, Rapture Ready 26 Comments [8/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2564

Anyone ever see the film March of the Penguins? After mating, and mom gives birth, the little egg is rolled from moms feet to dads feet - then balanced away from the cold ground, and covered with a fold of flesh on their stomaches - as they take turns marching miles to get food - in extreme winter conditions. Any slight mistake and the baby dies. This is not something they could have learned over time.

They came preprogrammed, and God did it :)

Macro-Evolution is a farse and examples like the above have proven it time and time again.

RaptureNewbie, Rapture Ready 23 Comments [8/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2552

Problems with Evolution.....


God made man in his own Image... God is not a monkey, even though some people look like a monkey

bravesfan1, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [8/2/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2553

Spiritual information is always available. Ditch all previously known rituals and engage in heartfelt prayer. Fast if necessary. Dig into the Spirit with every last authentic ounce of your will until your will is destroyed... God always speaks then. You just have never been hungry enough to annihilate your will. Atheists are just people who take the comfortable road and who don't take to challenges. They are sloths. Its not a condemnation, its reality.

Wyatt Junker, Free Conservatives 6 Comments [8/2/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 2554

And so, the question for evolutionists: How do paranormal capabilities evolve?

For instance the little dog who knows precisely when his owner first starts to
come home (the featurette you see on German cable channel); how did the little dog evolve that capability?

medved, Free Conservatives 14 Comments [8/2/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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