Quote# 17972

Craig Baker has threatened to race pigs on the edge of his property on Fridays, the Muslim holy day, in response to a plan to build a mosque near his property...

Though he now concedes the group probably is not after his land, Baker said he is obligated to go through with the pig races, probably within the next few weeks, because "I would be like a total idiot if I didn't. I'd be the laughingstock now because I've gone too far."

Craig Baker, AOL News 29 Comments [12/9/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Zipperback

Quote# 17974

I hate that evolutionists are pushing evolution as a fact simply because they don't want to believe in something higher than themselves. It has prevented me from validifying their scientific discoveries because I believe there is alterior motive. Arguing evolution vesus ID is like me arguing reality with my nintendo. Who am I to argue a billion years of evolution didn't occur in a single day when I am restricted by time and he is not. You should be forming mathematical proofs to prove that 0=1 instead of arguing with christians, whom are going to believe in creation whether evolution is fact or not. Why not try arguing why our ancestors evolved instead of arguing if they evolved. The fact that so many evolutionists are still arguing "if" leads me to believe you aren't so confident in your findings.

geatz, EvC Forum 25 Comments [12/9/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17983

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0In_I1a8RoI" target="_blank">God Warrior Vs. the Dryer of the Damned</a>

Marguerite Perrin, YouTube 9 Comments [12/9/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17984

[Regarding a petition to stop the building of a Mosque in Katy, Texas]

darn right this muslem menace should be stopped! It is wrong to build this thing in a good AMERICAN town filled with good AMERICAN people. Who let these UNAMERICAN people into this GREAT country anyways? Whoever supports these sort of peoples so called rights to bring their religion to AMERICA should be kicked out of the country with every last one of these invaders cuz that is exatly what they are.

Wayne Smith, KatyIslamAssociation.net Petition 47 Comments [12/9/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17986

Do you think drug and alchohol addicts should be drugged and watch TV?

Or would you rather see them learn how to rebuild their health through nutrition, how their conduct effects others, how to study and how to be close to and take care of their families and be successful at a job or in business so that they can start life new with workable tools? Which way makes more sense to you?

Did you know that 98% or more of our criminals can actually be rehabilitated and become ethical?

Did you know that L. Ron Hubbard's program for rehabilitating criminals has the highest success rate of any in history?

Did you know that his drug and alcohol rehabilitation program also has the highest success rate worlwide?

Did you know that heroin addicts can withdraw from a $200 per day addiction without drugs in only 2 to 4 days and that they are often through the worse part before they even think the withdrawls really started? Did you know that this is accomplished without the use of more harmful drugs?

Also,

Do you think we should leave our children to learn from a psychology based system that does not teach or believe in morals but prefers to teach them how to have safe sex, to feel no guilt for their misdeeds and to accept a learning disability label because the system has dropped out the successful methods of teaching?

Did you know that Scientologist children often study in adult level classes as young as age 9?

Did you know that Scientology trained children have the highest literacy rate of any group and the lowest illness rate and that being critical of one another is almost never seen?

Did you know that Scientologist children learn to be tutors usually by the age of 10?

Did you know that Scientologist children know that if they are honest and take responsibility for their misconduct that they will feel happy they did so? Did you know they rarely run into trouble in life?

This is about 2% of the cheers I can give to Scientology from what I've personally seen.

The book "What is Scientology" tells you how Scientology is doing what you want to see get done and surpassing the results you would want to see gotten.

These are results not achieved by psychiatry which is always wanting millions more each year forced out of our tax money. How much has psychiatry's intervention into our educational system helped? Did you know that education's failure is 'because' of psychiatry? If it worked, our education would have gotten better, not worse. That is the bottom line.

Here are the results of the tools that work in all walks of life and that can be used by any religion or group for the betterment of mankind. I recommend this book to anyone who wants to know, "What is Scientology doing?", or who has always said, "I know someone out there has the answers to life"

Examine the statistics and official recognitions for Scientology's successful community service work in the book, "What is Scientology". These are the anwers you always knew someone out there had.

I was so happy to find out that I could be a Scientologist. (My son was a phonics tutor at age 7 1/2 and a professional study skills tutor at 12. He received his High School Dimploma at age 13. He's had only two injuries in his life for which he need minor medical treatment and no illnesses needing treatment, ever. He has never been in trouble or had a problem with behavior that we couldn't communicate through. He learned about ethics, how to achieve high morale through learning and helping and being honest, all very young. Basically he learned "The Way to Happiness".

I will not worry about his future. He has his life fully under control. And when things get tough, he has the tools and friends,to help him to handle anything.

If you have similar rewards as the result of your personal spiritual endowment or from that of others in your life, from wherever it has come, there are things you know that others are needing to know. You will enjoy reading, "What is Scientology".

Tracy Sherwood, Founder of Superphonics, Amazon.com 51 Comments [12/9/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17894

Now I answered your question, here is one for you:

How did Moses know that by dividing a constant existence into seven equal parts (days) that it would accurately split the earth's revolution around the sun and keep the seasons in order for the next 6,000 years?

I'll help you out; it wasn't by the sun because the sun doesn't rise and set at the same time each day, week, year.

What was his measuring rod? I contend that the one who CREATED the earth gave Moses the information which is what Moses claimed. So how do YOU say Moses divided existence into 7-day weeks? After all, ALL astronomy emanates from that INITIAL fact. without it you CAN'T study stars and thus the universe.

Corey Buckner, God or Science 39 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Donald Keyballs

Quote# 17895

(huzzah, an agnostic fundie!)

hell, i can prove that atheists believe in God. to deny something exists, you must first acknowledge its existence. atheist, opposite of theist. think on that one for a little while

stevetom, Gaia Online 49 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: DoctorX

Quote# 17898

[Regarding an atack on TalkOrigins' servers.]

Maybe it was God?

dad, Christianforums 43 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: -2
Submitted By: Theironpaperclip

Quote# 17900

P1: Atheists claim that they have no belief in God.

P2: In order to have no belief in God, a belief in God could not be known to exist.

P3: Since a belief in God is known to exist, then the Atheistic position is a Theistic position that is against a belief in God or not a position at all to assess.

C: If its a Theism that is Against Theism, then its self defeating and false. If its not a position in regards to religion, we need not be concerned about it since it does not exist.

JesusMarine, JesusJustFor You 42 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17904

[On the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN)]

<img src="http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/Jacob025/footxs0.jpg" align="center">

Relic, 123 Christian Forums 35 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17908

Actually demons do exist and so do angels, when one learns to see the manifestation of peoples egoic bodies one can see how beautifull or hideous someone really is. But that requires 5th dimensional vision.

Dazzadz1 (call me Daz), Myspace 36 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17916

I am glad my children are deprived from the world by being homeschooled, no cable TV, sit with us in church and they are each others best friend. Don't let anyone convince you your kid needs friends! I could have done without almost all my childhood friends, and this world isn't any better than it was 20 years ago.

My children are my responsibility and I refuse to turn them over to the wolves of the society, whatever disguise it wears!

Preacher Boy, 123 Christain Forums 70 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Theironpaperclip

Quote# 17929

Please give an example of when nothing but energy is converted into mass, other than the Big Bang. Thank you. :)

[Particle accelerators can do it.]

Sorry, but there was no particle accelerator at the beginning of the universe. ;) So it's impossible for energy to be converted into mass because energy doesn't contain mass. But mass does contain energy so mass can be converted into energy. But energy cannot be converted into mass unless acted upon by mass. It therefore cannot create mass. So the converse of Einstein's theory is untrue. Sorry. ;)

Carico, CARM 44 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 17930

Today, I was in a heated debate on MSN Chat about the connection between atheism and crime. Simply by observing atheists in action, one can easily see that atheists tend to be violent sociopaths, but if I hated atheists simply on that fact, I would have been criticized as being "prejudice" and "bigoted." I would have to prove to them that atheism is accountable for all crimes on Earth. I have finally found the connection

As everybody knows, people are born not believing in God. Therefore, they are born atheists, which means "no God." Knowing that, common sense suggests that all criminals were originally atheists. That includes the most heinous criminals, such as Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Tupac Shakur. Criminals who commit religious crimes against Christianity and other proper religions tend to empathize with other anti-Christian atheists (pardon the redundancy). As for criminals who commit crimes against atheists in the name of Christianity, like homophobes, they are simply trying to repress their atheistic/homosexual tendancies, but rather than act Christian about it, they take it to an atheistic extreme.

All criminals have been atheists at one time in their lives? I don't know about you, but if there was ever a reason to outlaw atheism and other non-Christian religions, this is it.

MessiahWWKD, Adequacy 81 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 23

Quote# 17933

It may interest you to know that...slightly less than one percent of prison inmates actually commited a crime... at least that's what they'll tell you. You see that's the problem with atheists and other christless individuals. They'll say anything if they think it will score them more "rock."

Thon, Adequacy.org 24 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17934

The main reason that so many atheists are criminals is that they reject the presence of a higher power that is a source of absolute morality. They do not believe that there will be any final consequences for their actions. After all, when they die, they die. End of story. So why not shoplift, and use drugs, and go on a killing spree, and read Harry Potter books, and rape as many people (of arbitrary gender and age) as possible? After all, in the end, it isn't going to matter, is it? This sick worldview is one of the biggest problems with society today.

[Emphasis added]

seventypercent, Adequacy.org 74 Comments [12/8/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17856

I will not be watching Wedding Wars for the same reason that I do not watch other programs, such as some talk shows. I do not believe that gays should advertise their sex life. It is an abomination and a sin in the eyes of God. Our nation is suppose to stand up for God and His values. Yes, they may work at any job or what ever they choose. They should not marry because it is not natural. Romans chapter 1. Read it. Read also what would happen to you if you lived in a Arab country and then people gripe about the war in Iraq.I am so sick of people spreading lies around about that oh I was born gay. That is a lie from the devil. May God help us all to live according to The Word of God

Heavengoing, AETV Discussions 23 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Dysperdis

Quote# 17857

Ban the koran for its command for all believers to strike
terror in the heart of ALL unbelievers with any steed of war at the believers disposal.
Terrorism is illegal and the Koran commands it. Anyone claiming to be a muslim is admitting to plot terror.

There are many ways to single out only Islam.

carey, 123 Christian Forums 19 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17858

[From a long and uninformed post about how vaccinations cause disease.]

It is common modern practice to vaccinate children beginning in infancy, supposedly to protect them against a variety of diseases which "threaten" mankind. In truth, however, it is these very vaccines that are threatening the health and genetic integrity of the human race. Before the advent of vaccines, many childhood diseases such as measles, mumps and whooping cough were adequately handled by the immune systems of children raised in a drugless society. It was not until the beginning of mass immunization of children in the 1950’s that these same diseases appeared to cause grave injury or death. In fact, in 1950, before routine vaccinations became a reality, the United States had the third lowest infant mortality rate in the world. By 1986, the U.S. infant mortality rate dropped to 17th place and by 1995 the U.S. had fallen further to 24th place.

Mike, Myspace 39 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Adrian Burt

Quote# 17859

I also agree with those that said God elected Bush so that we could have mideast turmoil. It's no coincidence that the election was so close it could have gone Gore's way without the intervention of the Supreme Court!

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS ACCORDING TO GOD'S WILL. Make no doubt about it! If our invasion of Iraq causes a disaster, it was God's plan! Don't dispair my brothers and sisters in Christ! It's HIS plan.. we won't be here anyway! I don't think we will be here 5 years from now. I think Jesus will come first! If he doesn't, it just means he has even greater plans!

tnlady, Rapture Ready 47 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17860

You see, Christians hate Life, they want death. When they die they go to Heaven! On Earth they might commit a sin and not make it to Heaven. So every night they cry themselves to sleep asking God why he didn't kill them. When they wake up they cry even more because they are still alive. Another day, another chance to commit a sin and not make it to Heaven. The only reason they don't commit suicide is that suicide is a sin. So please, do the right thing, and kill Christians! They won't fight back, they want to die to go to Heaven and be with God.
So, on Sunday, when they are all together crying and begging God to kill them and take them to Heaven, drive by shooting! Or blow it up, or if it's really big release a odorless poison to kill them all. As someone who doesn't believe in an afterlife what do you need to worry about? Besides, if there is an afterlife are you doing anything wrong? Christians pray to God every day and night to kill them, answer the prayers! They want to die to be with God, we should help them, should we not?

Seth, Myspace 42 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Adrian Burt

Quote# 17861

Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days.

Public places such as shops and tea houses in Bulo Burto, about 124 miles northeast of the capital, Mogadishu, should be closed during prayer time and no one should be on the streets, said Sheik Hussein Barre Rage, the chairman of the town's Islamic court.

Those who do not follow this edict "will definitely be beheaded according to Islamic law," Rage told The Associated Press by phone. "As Muslims, we should practice Islam fully, not in part, and that is what our religion enjoins us to do."

He said that the courts are announcing the edict over loudspeakers in the town.

Sheik Hussein Barre Rage, Yahoo! News 41 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Axver

Quote# 17863

You see, you all seem so confident, but I think the theory of evolution is fraudulent...it's nothing but smoke and mirrors. There is no substance what-so-ever to it. NONE. And let me prove it to you.

Natural selection is THE creative force to the theory of evolution. In fact, the whole theory was dreamed up around this one concept. The thinking man would assume that a theory that has literally billions of hours of thought and thinking behind it would have a premise that was TESTED at least once! But you know what....the little theory that has hoodwinked a large part of society has a little secret...and that secret is that the chosen mechanism isn't worth a dime. And that mechanism is called natural selection.

Now see, I can call natural selection worthless, as evolutionists define it, because it truly has NEVER been tested/confirmed on animals in a controlled setting. And just like the creationists they love to ridicule for living on faith, evolutionists are also living on faith that natural selection works on the level of the organism like they claim.
[...]
This is a very simple challenge. And my prediction is that you will be able to show me nothing. Indeed, science for the past 100 years has relied on a concept that they just don't have the guts to test. And the reason they don't have the guts to test it is because they KNOW it's a fraudulent premise.

supersport, CARM 21 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 17869

The US will be a Islamic nation before 2030.

Christians will be forced to become dhimmis initially and then it'll be the whole "off with their head" business...

Thank the liberals for this... our kids will have to endure it...

thenotch, Free Conservatives 24 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 17872

Maybe God removed an essential part from our brains called the Super-conscious mind besides the Sub-conscious mind to prevent anyone from seeing his creation.

There is a clue that I think that humans are separate from animals, and that's our faces give our unique identity. Ape faces look like an army of clones like the ones in Star Wars.It would be evolution if all human, male and female, faces are the same.

Quasicentennial, Christian Forums 47 Comments [12/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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