Quote# 18752

“Intelligent Design versus Evolution” is a new board game that was designed by actor Kirk Cameron and best-selling author Ray Comfort, to help fight against the what they maintain is the brainwashing of an entire generation.

Cameron said, “We are very excited about this game because it presents both sides of the creation evolution argument, and in doing so, shows that the contemporary theory of evolution is perhaps the greatest hoax of modern times.”

Comfort explains, “Intelligent Design Versus Evolution is unique in that the playing pieces are small rubber brains. We used the brains because want players to use their brains. The incentive is to play for ‘brain’ cards, and the team or individual with the most brains wins. There are brains all over the game, because we want to make people think deeply about what they believe.

“This is because the average person doesn’t know that the evolutionist lives by a blind faith in an unscientific theory (a theory that one scientist called a 'fairy-tale for grown-ups’). Through the game we show the irrational nature of evolution, using their own beliefs and quotes. This explains why evolutionists have a special language, something we call ‘the language of speculation,’ where they use words like ‘We believe, perhaps, probably, maybe, could have . . . ’ They can’t speak of their theory without it.”

Cameron adds, “To believe in evolutionary ‘transitional forms’ is to hold to the belief that one species evolved into another. However, there is no scientific evidence of any species evolving into another—not in creation, nor in the ‘fossil record.’ Most people don’t know that."

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, Assist News Service 56 Comments [12/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: somnium

Quote# 18753

I was one of those people who thought people who claimed they were abducted by aliens or saw UFO's were crazy but this [book] puts it in a different perspective. I also believed that Dinosaurs was a fabrication but I read on Jack Kelly's website gracethrufaith.com where he believed that the Dinosaurs was Satan's attempt to mess with genetics and that the Nephilim might have been behind it. I just couldn't understand why God would create such ugly creatures.

Icolem, Rapture Ready 29 Comments [12/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18757

Congratulations! This proves that homosexuality is a sin and not God-given like so many homosexuals believe. It clearly states in the Bible that any union between to members of the same sex is wrong, especially when it is a sexual union. Many a homosexual, as I know you know, will use the excuse that God mad him or her and because he or she is homosexual it must be God-given since God made them. This excuse could not be further from what God says in the Bible. I call it an excuse because that's exactly what it is: an excuse! People will come up with any kind of an excuse to continue doing the sin that they want to do. When I totally gave my life over to God I was able to overcome a sin I thought I would never ever ever be able to ever stop doing: the sin of masturbation. I was plagued by this sin for years. I knew it was wrong but just could not stop it to save my life. I attribute it to my Roman Catholic up-bringing. As a Catholic, the only way to confess sin is to another sinner in the guise of a priest and then keep mute about it. After the confession the priest would give a penance which, upon doing whatever the penance was, would absolve you from your sins. When I converted over to discipleship which teaches to confess your sins to God by sharing them to others so that, as a team, one can help the other overcome them. Man is too weak to even think, let alone act, alone on a sin because Satin is just too strong. As the old saying goes: "There is strength in numbers." The more an individual believes in God the stronger He gets. Combine the belief of a number of individuals and the strength of God gets even stronger. The devil does not have this ability, therefore weakens before God. This is how I was able to defeat masturbation. I now have replaced lust with God in my heart because I have made God stronger than the devilish sin of masturbation. To God be the glory!

Anonymous Poster, Livejournal 33 Comments [12/29/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18679

Perhaps, but don't expect to achieve eternal life through evolutionism. No matter how much or how little evidence there is for Creationism, it might be a good idea to believe in God, just in case He does exist.

Monkey Mooser, Star Wars message boards 44 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18681

I like Ham, he's brilliant and his ideas are consice. I don't swallow everything, only what makes sense. He made sense, checking facts... he's a Christian and I'm sure if he's running a business as big as Answers in Genesis, he would not be making up or distorting things, or scientists would be all over him. I'm not slinging out remarks just to read them, I can write it on paper. He simplifies it for the audience, not distorts it. If he gave them the full science, they would be overwhelmed and not understand a thing he'd be saying.

Lord Mainerd09, Star Wars message boards 35 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18685

You want to have your civll unions dissolved by unilateral annulment because a male-male couple never had vaginal intercourse? Obviously not. So you don’t want equality. Think about it.

Christian, U Dream Of Janie 91 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: JanieBelle

Quote# 18688

I realize that atheists think they're so clever and intelligent in their responses to the bible. But they are no different than they've been since the creation of man. In fact, they are so predictable that even the bible addresses them in Romans 1:18-31, 1 Peter 4:3-5, and Psalms 36:1, which describes atheists perfectly. So as Solomon says in Ecclesiastes, there is nothing new under the sun.

So since atheists have zero facts to present to defend their position that Jesus is not the Son of God, but only attacks, denials, and ignorance of history, then they have nothing new to teach us. Absolutely nothing. So all that's left in their responses are schoolyard attacks and denials that don't belong in any debate, much less an intelligent debate.

So if you want to be taken seriously, atheists, then you need to get educated about history and elementary principles of right and wrong because verbal volleyball doesn't prove anything except one's maturity level. So that's the first elementary principle you need to understand before even thinking you can refute the bible.

Carico, CARM 29 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18690

[... and workin' overtime...]

Im sure your right, I would just prefer to keep myself out of situations like Korea unless I were there to take care of buisness (which will never happen, because we couldent even take care of buissnes in the korean war, the last time we took care of buisness was Japan in WW2 and that will likely never happen again, instead we will send thousands of our own brothers and sisters to be killed by people who are not worth the change in my pocket).

The actions of the Korean government are a result of buisness not being taken care of for to long and as long as everyone wants to tip toe through the tulips it will only get worse. The same oppressive mentality is slowly creeping into the USA.

rppearso, Christian Forums 13 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18691

Ding Dong Da-Darwin's dead...Darwin's Dead, Darwin's Dead Ding Dong, Darwin, Darwin's dead! Wake up - sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, Evolution's dead. She's gone where the monkeys go,
Below - below - below. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
Evolution's dead!

Judge
As Judge Jones of the Kansas, In the County of the Land of ID, I welcome you most regally.
YECS
But we've got to verify it legally, to see
Judge
To see?
YECS
If she
Judge
If she?
YECS Is morally, ethic'lly
Evolution No.1
Spiritually, physically
Evolution No. 2
Positively, absolutely
Scientists?
Undeniably and reliably Dead
Dr. Sarfati!
As Sarfati I must aver, I thoroughly examined her.
And she's not only merely dead, she's really most sincerely dead.
Judge
Then this is a day of Independence For all the Evolutionists and their descendants
YECS
If any.
Judge
Yes, let the joyous news be spread The wicked Evolution at last is dead!

Jonathan T H, CARM 38 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18695

Evolution much have been taking a long break from work when all these miraculous chemistry processes were going on. To just leave behind dogs and cats and chickens, where they did not also "evolve" like minkeys. And why minkeys, couldn't evolution have just left minkeys alone? I mean, wasn't life better swinging from trees and eating bananas? Now we got to put up with traffic and Christmas shopping and bills and liberals and all kinds of annoying things. Why minkeys? Couldn't have bears evolved into big hairy Chewbaccas and subjugated the animal kingdom.

I can't quite get how man could be so arrogant to think that he would be so special that evolution would single him out for higher intelligence, leaving behind alllllll other animals and mammals and reptiles and doggies and kitties and all that. It makes no sense really. Evolution makes no sense. The big picture of evolution cannot be reconciled with statistics, or science for that matter. It is all quite murky and we are asked to simply take it all on faith.....because it takes a lot of faith to believe it all. And God help you if you disagree with the science community. You have to stand back and let them refute their own theories, which they do regularly.

TheChampion, RichardDawkins.net 43 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18697

Mohammed was indeed a prophet, but we now know that he was in fact one of many human messengers from another planet ruled by advanced extraterrestrials. Jesus was one too, as were many other prophets throughout history. The aliens have recently come to a man called Rael to explain the actual truth of what happened. Details:

every life form on Earth was created by advanced human scientists from another planet with 25,000 years of scientific advances who, according to Raelians were originally called Elohim or "those who came from the sky", and that some forty prophets in Earth's history were sent by Elohim whose messages were misunderstood and distorted by humans, largely because of the difference in the level of scientific understanding between the advanced race and our primitive one.

Faint, Religious Forums 43 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18698

(from a WorldNetDaily article)

"It's a good example of the fact that evolutionary ideas change all the time. They are reinterpreting their ideas as they look at the evidence," he told WND. "The result is that there's no real knowledge there."

He said such articles base their many assumptions on such concepts as the fossil layers that are discovered.

"If they find animals and plants in the fossil record together, they assume they were living together," he told WND. "That's not necessarily so. They could have been transported and dumped together."

(later in the article)

"The Bible – the 'history book of the universe' – provides a reliable, eye-witness account of the beginning of all things, and can be trusted to tell the truth in all areas it touches. Therefore, we are able to use it to help us make sense of this present world."


Ken Ham, WorldNetDaily 32 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18699

[I would think if God "changed" me enough in heaven that my parents' eternal torment in Hell would not impact me anymore, that would be a form a mind control and loss of free will. I cannot imagine under any circumstances in which I would be ok with my parents suffering for all time.]

Sure, maybe it would be a form of mind control. But then you wouldn't know any better after it was done that way.

Think of it this way. In my human state I can hold out hope that God has a loophole to save the unsaved. That makes me happy now. However, after I die it turns out that there is no loophole and God simply rewrites my mind. I'm still happy because I'm ignorant of any loss.

Either way, God fulfills his word that there will be no more sadness in heaven.

Linux98, Christian Forums 54 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18700

[Thread about if babies go to hell; if children killed by Herod went to hell, then they sacrificed more than Jesus did]

No, Jesus is eternal God who must receive glory. It's not that His needs needed to be met. It's that He is God and He is just in making sure that even the unrighteous deeds of the wicked will be used to bring Him glory.

[...]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. No one gets to heaven by default.

[...]

I'm not saying He's cruel. I'm saying He's just. Sin must be punished, and He punishes it. How is that cruel? God is no respecter of persons, remember? Doesn't matter who you are or how old you are, if you're guilty of sin, then you deserve to be punished.

beads, FreeJesus 25 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Puistokemisti

Quote# 18702

Hetrosexual and others (peace,love and open sex from the 1950's to the late 70's) or called by some the sexual revolution is why God sent Aids to this world.

If you cannot deal with this fact from a bias or hatered againist God in the first place then you have more then likely fallen for the lies of the god of this world. And before somebody else starts whining about the little kids and babies who gets it, well the people who comitted all the "acts" over the past 50 years are the ones who caused the curse and they will be the ones who has to answer for all the innocent!

Blood on your hands from sin carry a long ways sometimes!

BTW If God didn't send the Aids virus it would be worse. Think for a moment of what vision do you have of what this country would be like if there was no aids to stop people from having the orgies of the past? The aids scare is what stopped it cold in it's track in both the Hetrosexual and all the other communities.

jjf1990, FreeJesus 47 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18704

Atheists have successfully hoodwinked a large segment of society. This has been done under the guize of science. Evolutionary science's main goal in the past 100 years has not only been to divert people away from God, but to divert people away from their own common sense. This has been done for purely political reasons. This group of mental terrorists have no desire to uncover the truth. Their main goal has always been to justify their atheist existence and to mold and shape society as they see fit...(ie...soicalism, communism.)

But the problem is, their "science" goes against every drop of common sense...starting with something called the Law of Biogenesis. This law states two things: 1) that living things must come from other living things. 2) that living things can only produce other living things like themselves.

Thus, to get a cat, there must be a living thing giving birth to that cat. And not only that, but that living thing, by law, cannot be a chicken or a dog. It must be a cat. To get a starfish, there must first be a starfish (or two). To get a snail, there must first be snails. To get a human there must first be humans. And no one has proven otherwise. Yet evolutionists like to say that this is not case. In fact, to them, this law must have been broken millions of times over the course of history. Of course it's opinions like these which are the consequence of them permenantly living in fairytale land.

But it gets worse for the atheist. The first law states that only living things can come from other living things. This means the theory of atheistic evolution is false because at some point, life would have had to emerge from something non-living. But until someone can make life starting from scratch...(ie...no DNA, no proteins, no nucleotides, no RNA, etc)...nothing but the elements on the periodic table, then you guys have absolutely no authority to claim anything. You have no authority to claim that intelligence came from non-intelligence. You have no authority to claim that an intelligent code did not come from an intelligent sender. You have no authority to claim that the human mind was not the result of intelligent thought. And you certainly have no authority to claim that humans came from monkeys.

All evolutionist scientists/authors have got is the authority to crown themselves as the kings of mythological fiction-writing. And that's all the theory of evolution is: A big, fat, impossible myth based on a fraud premise that's not backed up by even one shred of evidence. The only real evidence they have going for them is the fact that most atheist scientists agree with -- and promote -- the giant atheist propaganda machine otherwise known as ToE.

supersport, CARM 38 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18705

RAPE AND INCEST ARE NOT JUSTIFIABLE REASONS FOR ABORTION

Bishop Dr. P. Bradley Carey, Institute for Christian Works 69 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18706

Robert Hale, a Bible-toting father of 15 who calls himself Papa Pilgrim, became an anti-government celebrity in Alaska by driving a bulldozer across a national park that encircles his land.

[...]

He said his children read only the Bible, always bathed with their clothes on and were not allowed to see one another naked.

[...]

He pleaded no contest to multiple charges that he raped one of his daughters

Robert Hale, Washington Post 78 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Huffers

Quote# 18707

"'And Tango Makes Three' is based on a true story about two male penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo who hatch an adopted egg together."

I wonder if these two male penguins were coaxed or trained by a homosexual (or some other liberal activist) zookeeper from Greenwich who was just looking to make a point. You wouldn't expect to hear of such nonsense at say the Cincinnati Zoo. The San Francisco Zoo...yup. The New York Central Park Zoo...yup. Go figure...




DogByte6RER, free republic 42 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18709

[If homosexual relations (for example) are against God's law, then would you believe that not only gay marriage would be wrong, but any kind of gay sexual activity? If so, what penalties do you think would be appropriate for breaking this law?]

Well the Bible calls for death but he who is without sin and all. I only think they should be fined or jailed.

[Other than being unConstitutional and impossible to enforce, not to mention making criminals of normal people...]

Its not normal. We put people with mental disturbancies in asylums don't we? As homosexuality is a mental disturbance they should be put in asylums for mental help and spiritual guidance.

[How would we go about legally handling the issue of straight couples who engage in "homosexual sex acts" and homosexuals who engage in acts shared between heterosexuals?]

Assuming they don't get caught there's nothing the government can do. If they get caught thought then they should at least be fined and probably have mandatory therapy.

Gipper, Christian Forums 19 Comments [12/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18659

Ive always thought that Yellowstone could be the lake of fire. That thing is a monster.

Helivesinus, Rapture Ready 23 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18661

Tolerance is an immature almost cowardly response.
There is no love in tolerance
and no hate either
Tolerance is the slippery slope that opens the door to all manner of things
that the tolerant dont really want
but immaturely hadnt realised would automatically follow.

lesley, CARM 27 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18667

And just how did the Dinosaurs die 4000 yrs ago? Well, dinosaurs have very small nostrils which means that back then (4000-yrs ago), there was a very high oxygen content. Now maybe, just maybe that some time after the flood when dinosaurs populated the Earth again, conditions deteriorated resulting in suffocation. This is all to obvious but Science has to complicate it

oliver, RichardDawkins.net 45 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18670

I know Aliens Exist Are Real I Know God Its Not That Lazy

gir, Saber-Scorpion's Lair Forums 33 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Broken Egg

Quote# 18671

You need to know that Satan and evil spirits are very strategic. Jesus said in John 10:10a that it is the thief that comes to steal, kill, and to destroy. That is the goal of our spiritual enemies, but how they go about to accomplish that in a person’s life is very much planned out and strategic. Satan and evil spirits tempt a person in the weak areas of their life. Where do these weaknesses come from in a person’s life? There are many different ways that demons gain entrance into a person’s life: generational curses, evil soul-ties, doors of sin that you opened in your own life, or something that someone did to you, such as molestation, rape, abuse, rejection, and abandonment to name a few.

Generational curses trip many people up in life---including Christians. Simply put, generational curses are legal rights or open doors for demons to torment a person and a family line with a weakness to a specific sin or an infirmity until it is broken in the Name of Jesus. How is it that a Pastor of a mega-church falls into the sin of homosexuality? The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin and an abomination in the sight of God (Lev. 20:13; Romans 1:26-27). I can guarantee that a person that is homosexual has one of two things happening in their life or both. First, many times if you dig into the family history of a homosexual, you will find out that several family members had that same weakness in their life; a generational curse is present in the family line. Secondly, that individual was molested, raped, or abused, which caused them to turn to a perverted and sinful lifestyle. God loves the person, but He hates the sin and expects them to repent and seek spiritual help. Just because a generational curse is active in your life, you still have the ability to resist the sin. It is simply a legal right for the enemy to torment you in your life until it is broken in the Name of Jesus.

Pastor James Brandt, The Big Rapids Pioneer Newspaper 29 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Lillian