Quote# 18673

"[Supersport has trouble comprehending basic grammar. Film at eleven.]

And here’s the magic of life as I see it: Since life is a verb, I find it interesting that faith is also a verb."

supersport, CARM.org 83 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Bone_Vulture

Quote# 18674

This applies to evolutionists: and for that matter, anyone who believes something with which others disagree:

"There's good reason to believe he fits the description of delusional. He is utterly fixated on a singularly perverted form of reality, an form of reality that is logically refutable and factually refuted by a large number of highly respected and unquestionably qualified experts and an even larger body of physical evidence. "



Mdd344, Internet Infidels 36 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18675

More ad hominem lunacy from fundie legend Carico:

The lies that atheists have to tell to deny Jesus is Lord are never-ending. Here are only a few of them:

1) Something different happened in Jerusalem during the time of Christ other than Jesus's preaching, miracles, death, and resurrection, although they never say what and if they did, can't verify their versions with anyone in history.
2) Changing Jewish history at any point they want to. Unfortunately, that history will differ according to each atheist, nor can it be verified by anyone in history.
3) Claiming that Jesus's words were made up with no proof.
4) Claiming that the authors of the bible were lying or deluded with no proof for their claims
5) Claiming that Jesus didn't perform miracles with no proof for their claims
6) Claiming that they know what happens after we die when none of them have died yet
7) Claiming that their morals are better than Christ's
8) Claiming that Jesus didn't exist
9) Claiming that Jesus didn't show the world his divine powers when they have no proof for their claims
10) Claiming that they're indifferent to God when they spend thousands of hours discussing God.

The above are only just a few of the lies that atheists have to tell to deny that Jesus is Lord. So I have a question to which I'd like to know the answer:
Do atheists know they are lying? If so, then why do they want beliefs that they know are based on lies?

Or do they not know they are lying when they make up fictitious history that can't be verified by anyone in history? I'd really like to know the answer to that particular question. Thank you.

Carico, CARM 47 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18676

Seek Them Out - One of the most outstanding things about the U.S. military is that they are trained to attack even when outnumbered. When you see the enemy go after them. If they say, “I am a Muslim.” then say, But have you emigrated to this country?” “Yes.” “Then, according to the House Judiciary Committee you are supposed to abandon your old faith and come to Jesus Christ and become a Christian. Make no apology for this because...it’s the truth!



Dr Samuel C Gipp,  Essays and Ideas by Dr Samuel C Gipp, Th.d 47 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Nick

Quote# 18677

[On whether or not Jesus would support conversion by means of coercion.]

As long as the come to Jesus I doubt that he cares how they got there.

Gipper, Christianforums.com 21 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: trunks2k

Quote# 18628

PORTLAND, Maine - A New York-to-Portland flight was delayed for more than two hours on Christmas Eve after a passenger passed along a note about blood and death.

He said he had AIDS, and the shedding of his blood and all our blood would cure all sickness,” Budek, of Sharpsville, Pa., told the Portland Press Herald at Portland International Jetport on Sunday. She said the note suggested “he was Jesus and it was time for everybody to die.”

unidentified 35 year old, MSNBC News 19 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Hensley

Quote# 18632

Here is proof that the big bang could NOT happen, when there is an explosion in space the object would have to fly though space at a very fast velocity until something stopped it. then why is the earth in orbit around the sun at the right distance and at the right angle so we don't freeze on one side burn up on the other. and did you know that the sun is shrinking at a amount of 3 feet per hour so if its smaller now than it must have been much bigger a couple million years ago, that means the ice age could't have happened, and life could not exist under trimendous heat like that.

Josh, Myspace 32 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 18637

Even Darwin, the person who suggested the Big Bang and evolution said that it could not have happened. He stated himself that the human eye is too complex to have just formed one day or evolved into what it is. There is no way the right elememts, cells, atoms, ect...could have come together just right to make the human eye.

Think of it this way....could a coke can, with the prefect size, color, label, even the little bitty copy rights symbol, appear out of thin air?? Or could you put a piece of tin foil on the ground and watch it evolve into Ferrari??? Evolution is bogus. If evolution were true, why are there still apes?? How come ALL the primates haven't evolved into humans??

-Tank-, Myspace 39 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 18638

IF YOU ARE TRUE AMERICAN AND YOU HATE MAGGOTS, GRAB YOUR DESERT EGALE AND KILL A FAGGOT!

123 123, Ubersite 58 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18639

[Sceintists created a computer program that uses the process of evolution to make complex 'living' virtual structures out of the smallest life.]

They designed a computer program to make it! They contradicted themselves!

Godslittlerosebud, Gospelcom 26 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18641

Last week I made an admittedly outrageous claim: that studying genes is mostly a waste of time and money. Not only is it a waste of time and money regarding the evolution of lifeforms, but it's also a mostly waste of time medically. And the reason it's a waste of time is because our genes do not control us. Instead, we control our genes. When a gene acts up and mutates or decides to express itself in a different way, it's not a result of an accident -- it's the result of being under the influence of the cell in which it resides -- which, in turn, is under the influence of the body itself.

Thus, by studying genetics, scientists are completely missing the cause of change. Take cancer. If a person smokes for 40 years and then a genetic mutation induces cancer in their body, the genetic mutation itself is not the cause, the cause cellular malfunction...and this malfunction happes because it finally succumbs to a toxic internal and/or external environment. And it's the same concept with a kid who grows up with crummy, toxic, deadbeat parents: the odds are, unfortunately, that this kid -- without Divine intervention -- will grow up to be malfunctional and toxic and deadbeat himself. It's not rocket science...it's common sense.

supersport, CARM 24 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18642

[Oncologists the world over, Chemotherapy is not the answer, hyperbaric chambers are!]

But to answer your question, no, cancer happens because cellular toxicity, which results in a lack of oxygen and an inability to effectively metabolize nutrients or rid itself of waste. Eventually the cell begins to malfunction, divide, and spread.

supersport, CARM 25 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18643

The distance of stars is based on the assumption of how big stars are and therefore how far away they have to be for their light to reach the earth. So...what if the stars are much closer than we think? If they are, then the calculations are way off. Scientists also sitll don't know if the light from the stars is reflected light from the sun or powered by hydrogen gas which is just a guess.

Carico, CARM 40 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Aagcobb

Quote# 18645

And since for the most part, the whole goal of science is to rebel against God, then their whole goal is to prove the bible wrong. This leads to even more bizarre and irrational explanations that aren't possible in reality. For example, the bible describes a tribe of giants called the Nephilim who were the sons of Anak that could very easily explain the skulls and bones that scientists have found. But in their zeal to rebel against God and play God themselves, evolutionists instead, need to come up with an even more bizarre and ludicrous explanation that humans came from apes.

Carico, CARM 39 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Aagcobb

Quote# 18650

[In reference to cited articles offering scientific arguments against Biblical flood]

I also read the two bits about the flood. As I stated before, when a person draws a conclusion that directly contradicts the Bible account I do not believe that individual in that subject. Both of the articles had as their conclusion the idea that no universal flood existed, that it was a myth. God is no liar, thus their entire framework etc. is off base. I readly agree that if one doesn't believe in God or the Scriptures to begin with that this is not to them 'proof.' But it is enough for me.

mdd344, Internet Infidels 30 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18652

Okay, if you really want me to adopt a principle, I'll take this one:

"Science education should only concern itself with presenting scientific knowledge, scientific methods, the philosophy of science and its criticism."

Great, now ID has a place in science class. Including discussion of all its various flaws both scientifically and philosophically.

[Perhaps I'm missing something here, but how would redefining a science course's curriculum in that way lead to teaching ID? I mean, it's still not a scientific theory.]

I don't see how that objection makes sense unless I assume only science can be taught in science class, which I clearly don't.

pcorbett, Spacebattles 32 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Dave

Quote# 18653

[After being asked for Noah's drinking water supply]

Noah has animals on board and could survive milk. There really is no need for water when you have that man animals.

caseypayne1980, 123 Christian Forums 62 Comments [12/26/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18611

[Darwin's theory - Any interpretation other than Carico's is wrong, haven't you heard?]

Mine agrees with the bible's. Yours doesn't. So would I be right in "interpreting" your statement to mean any interpretation other than Osama Bin Laden's interpretation is wrong? According to you, I've accurately quoted your words.

Carico, CARM 17 Comments [12/25/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18614

I'm ignorant as the day is long when it comes to science in general and evolution specifically.

I carry a Bible --- not a clipboard.

AV1611VET, Christian Forums 36 Comments [12/25/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18620

[answering the claim that the Flood wiping out the dinosaurs but leaving no trace is ridiculous]
Well "mystical" comets don't seem to have much evidence either. The bones we find would be crushed.

Patrick square pants, GameFAQs Religion Board 24 Comments [12/25/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18621

Cancer will help a person come to Christ, so give up and give in.

JamRan, JREF Forum 35 Comments [12/25/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Yahweh

Quote# 18584

['Apes and humans are equally evolved. And by the way...winter isn't that cold in Africa, yet people have hair on their head there too, don't they?']

No they do not. Neither has evolved what so ever in all the recordings of mankind. Hair is to cool you in the summer and keep you warm in the winter. God really is that ahead of the game. My point is if monkeys in Africa still have hair then so should African that live there, but if you look there bald bodied as can be. Hence, Evolution does not exist.

caseypayne1980, 123 Christian Forums 28 Comments [12/24/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18592

Now wait, marrying girls age 11 and younger is abomination? I don't know about that. It may not be adviseable, but it's not an abomination. Most Bible scholars will tell you that in the time of Jesus Christ, girls got married at quite an early age. Most of them will also tell you that Mary herself was not a lady of middle age or old age, but a very young girl. So abomination? No. Unwise? Yes.

missions2005, Teens-4-Christ 47 Comments [12/24/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18603

In 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court dropped a cluster bomb in Lawrence v. Texas. For the first time in its history, a majority of the Court rejected morality as a legitimate justification for a state criminal law. The Court declared unconstitutional a Texas law that prohibited homosexual sodomy in the privacy of the home.

Jan LaRue, concerned women for america 52 Comments [12/24/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18559

The geocentric theory explains the grains of space without violating any of the laws of thermodynamics. It takes the grains at face value, presuming them to be real. The medium of the grains is tremendously dense (4x1093 gm/cm3): so dense that one would have to pack 1039 universes into a cube one centimeter on a side in order to match their density. Geocentric theory has identified the grains as making up the firmament of Genesis chapter 1. It is common among Creationists to assume that the firmament was a canopy of water in one form or another; but whether there ever was a canopy before the flood, it cannot be equated with the firmament simply because Genesis 1:17 tells us that God set the stars in the firmament, not above it as would have to be the case if the canopy was meant. Since God called the firmament "Heaven" (Genesis 1:8) it must follow that the firmament is at least the size of the universe.

The firmament goes a long way towards explaining some of the mysteries of modern science. It readily explains why more massive nuclear particles are smaller than less massive ones. In the every-day realm it explains why, in general, mass depends on volume. It explains why very large objects, such as galaxies and clusters of galaxies seem to be as much as 500 times more massive than is indicated by the amount of light they generate. This phenomenon is called "the missing mass." [For a review see Bouw, G. D. 1977. Creation Research Society Quarterly, 14(2):108.]

In addition, the firmamental model readily accounts for such experimental results as the Sagnac effect, the Faraday disk-generator paradox, earth's night-time electric field, and ball lightning. All of these point to geocentricity as serious science.

Gerardus D. Bouw, Ph.D., Why Geocentricity? 69 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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