Quote# 18560

The one big problem with the rational mind(reasoning out things) is that they assume that they know the truth about everything already. So they start out in their thinking with the assumption that they can know. But what does the Word of God say: unless you become as a little child, you will by no means enter the kingdom of God. And a little child just believes everything you tell them. Well that is what the Word of God says, just believe what the Word tells you. In reality the Word is saying believe it first and then God will open your understanding. But the rational mind says dont believe nothing until you have good reason behind it. This is the difference between accepting it on faith, and reasoning it out according to mans wisdom. The Word accually says to first repent then believe in the gospel. It doesnt say reason it out until it says what you want it to. To many have a pre-conceived idea planted by some man before they open the bible. Then they search to find something that supports their already pre-conceived idea.

Squeakybro, 123 Christian Forums 29 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18564

You know what I give up. Not because I'm losing but because. What have I won If I explained something to a foolish man. He's still foolish. I"m not going to play the circle game all day with someone who seams to just want to but heads. Perhaps if you stopped reading things in a biased angle you wouldn't be were you are now. twin nested hierarchy is a pretty funny concept too. Well since we all share smiliar traits we must have all came from a common Ancestor aka the single celled organism. In reality we should be amazed that God can create and did create so many life forms with similiarities. To believe we came from an A sexual single celled organism to a organism with reproductive organs for mating is in it's self stupid. Then carring that idea to a fish and plant and later to a creature on land that grew legs. Fish in the sea today still don't have legs as far as we can remember, and last time I check they didn't want to walk on land. But the fairy tale sounds fun to believe. Have a pet fish? Go ahead and throw it out of its fish bow and tell it to walk and breath. Evolution will grab ahold of it right and for survival it will walk. lol Dummiest theories of the world today lay in science. Science can have all the angles it wants to lie. Yes I said lie because the only way out of a lie is the truth. And no self pride loving scientist is going to back down. They'll simple create more oopsie to back old oopsie. Its just that simple.

caseypayne1980, 123 Christian Forums 27 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18568

why its simp[ly obsurd for ole al to take all the credit for dhimmicrats winning the majority in congress.
the dhimmicrats fought tooth and nail to protect the rights of muslims to attack and slaughter americans, they leaked classified info to the terrorist to aid and support them in avoiding capture and kill more americans!
the dhimmicrats done everything within their power to help the terrorist slaughter americans to make president bush and the republicans look incpable of defeating the terrorist!
so ole al cant take all the credit!

thndrbang1, Jihad Watch 34 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18573

I once met a guy who said he was an atheist and didnt believe in anything. I called him a lieing atheist! I said to him, when you fly do you believe there is someone piloting the plane even though you cannot see him? He said yes! I said, then you are not only not an atheist but you are a liar. I asked him if he had a great, great grandmother and he said, of course. I said there you go, you believe! How much more there must be a maker of this beautiful universe! He gave up and walked away shaking his head!

Jeff Mills, ITPOG Forum 54 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18576

Thinking Biblically about the appendix

Let’s assume that modern science knew of no function for the appendix. Would that show it was a useless left-over from our past evolution from the animals? Not at all. There would be at least two other possibilities, when our thinking is based upon the Bible:
It had a created function in people originally, but as a result of the Curse (consequent upon Adam’s sin) on all creation, humanity has degenerated. Thus, our body has lost some functions which it once had. Evolution requires a gain in information—new structures, new functions.
It has a created function, but we don’t know what it is yet.

Jonathon TH, CARM 23 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18577

They say ID is dead yet they just can’t stop talking about it on Panda’s Thumb. I counted 21 mentions of “ID” and “Intelligent Design” on just the home page without expansion of any articles or comments.

If they believe ID is dead that means the thumbsters are necrophiliacs. Gross. I’ll add that to their growing list of character flaws; The Church Burnin’ Necrophiliac Ebola Boys. But hey, I just kid those fine folks. I understand that as chance worshippers they’re in the business of not letting go of dead ideas.

Hey Wesley! Can you spell non sequitur? I knew you could.

Dave Scot, Uncommon Descent 18 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18578

considering that Africa, Southwestern Europe, South America, and Central America appear to be split from one continent -- Pangea -- what are the odds that the continents split apart after the flood right about the time when God commanded people to disperse and fill the earth after Babel? That would explain how humans appeared on all continents at approximately the same time. hmmmmm.....

supersport, CARM 42 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Aagcobb

Quote# 18579

[Atheist extremism?]

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - A man used flammable liquid to light himself on fire, apparently to protest a San Joaquin Valley school district's decision to change the names of winter and spring breaks to Christmas and Easter vacation.

The man, who was not immediately identified, on Friday also set fire to a Christmas tree, an American flag and a revolutionary flag replica, said Fire Captain Garth Milam.

Seeing the flames, Sheriff's Deputy Lance Ferguson grabbed a fire extinguisher and ran to the man.

Flames were devouring a Christmas tree next to the Liberty Bell, where public events and demonstrations are common.

Beside the tree the man stood with an American flag draped around his shoulders and a red gas can over his head.

Seeing the deputy, the man poured the liquid over his head. He quickly burst into flames when the fumes from the gas met the flames from the tree.

The deputy ordered the man to drop to the ground as he and a parole agent sprayed him with fire extinguishers.

"The man stood there like this," the deputy said with his arms across his chest and his head bent down, "Saying no, no, no."

The man suffered first degree burns on his shoulders and arms, Milam said.

Kern County Sheriff's Deputy John Leyendecker said the man had a sign that read: "(expletive) the religious establishment and KHSD."

On Thursday, the Kern High School Board of Trustees voted to use the names Christmas and Easter instead of winter and spring breaks.

Anonymous Protester, Yahoo! News 45 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18515

Since many people like to change the words in the bible, let's change Darwin's theory too. Afterall, anyone's interpretation of his words are as correct as anyone's interpretation of the bible.

So Darwin claimed that humans didn't evolve from apes or primates, but instead, from the a three-toed sloth that just...mutated into a human. Afterall, mutations happen all the time so of course this is the way it happened. We have fossils of three--toed sloths that existsed millions of years ago so that is proof that they turned into humans.

We also have other fossils that once used to be a three-toed sloth, but they died out because they weren't fit enough so they thankfully happened to breed a superior three-toed sloth. Whew! That mutation was a lucky break. But wait...the environment must have been colder then let's say around an avergage of 20 degrees all year around, no let's make it 30. Yeah, that's a nice round number because it was much closer to the ice age so it fits right in.

So the above is true because it's my "interpretation" of Darwin's words and they're just as right as anyone else's.

Carico, CARM 37 Comments [12/22/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18517

It's already to late the Muslims, Asians and African are less than a decade away from taking over most of western Europe. The English are cowardly leaving the UK. Whilst England has opened the door for the invasion of Scotland and Ireland.

Gregz, Original Dissent 36 Comments [12/22/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18527

The name, Mars, came from Satan. It refers to Satan as the god of war, who was defeated when Jesus Christ paid for the sins of the world on the Cross. The name, Mars, is blasphemy. The Romans, who were hoodwinked by the devil, named the planet; and scientists, who are no smarter, have continued the deception. This is just another lie of Satan, the master of deceit, in an attempt to hide the truth of the Cross.

Larry Wood, bad astronomy 47 Comments [12/22/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Cerebulon

Quote# 18541

Stability in Iraq ultimately depends on spreading the message of Jesus Christ, the message of peace on earth, good will towards men. Everything depends on everyone learning about the birth of the Savior.

Congressman Robin Hayes, Pam's House Blend 31 Comments [12/22/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 18549

The point is, gentleman, it is understandable it is not possible to convert every person. You deffinately cannot covert those who made up their decision that God doesnt exist. Right now, though, looking at how many people in the world believe in the existence of Super Natural power we can say with confidence that there seems to be more evidence for God's existence than against.

Dont give me this garabage about people being like sheep and they believe anything, cause I can use the same argument aginst atheist. I can say, "How stupid can you be not to see see, sense, hear, smell, touch, reason, his existence" The point is irrevelant because more scientists and more educated people believe in Super Natural then the other way around. So you are not proving anything to anybody if you are being sarcastic about religion.

bgbs, digg.com 21 Comments [12/22/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 18550

[If life is discovered to exist on Europa, would it change anyone's mind about the book Genesis as an accurate depiction of the creation of life?]

Not at all --- this universe is teeming with life from one end to the other --- our instruments just aren't "tuned" to the right specs to detect them.

But angels aside, I don't think we'll find biological life elsewhere because of the Anthropic Principle.

AV1611VET, Christian Forums 33 Comments [12/22/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Pesto

Quote# 18551

Almost one month later I am sitting here attempting to make page 1 of this thread into a Blog entry for MySpace.

My computer, which is normally very fast, has made me sit and wait, re-copy and paste, and receive one error message after another.

HaSatan is alive and well, but apparently not very happy with some of us.

Peggy, War of the Angels 40 Comments [12/22/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 18490

The Red Planet [Mars] symbolizes the blood of Christ, which represents His substitutionary Spiritual death for the sins of the world on the Cross. The planet is alive with dynamic events that demonstrate the significance of the witness of the blood of Christ in the history of Creation and the Appeal Trial of Satan. The witness of Elect Angels on the planet is evident in the daily and seasonal changes in the weather and volcanoes.

Larry Wood, The Red Planet 39 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18491

Sex is the biggest way HIV is transmitted, through premarital and homosexual sex.

And the HPV shot is far different from the tetanus shot. A tetanus shot is there to protect you from infection resulting from stepping on a rusty nail. The HPV shot is there to protect you from a just consequence of immoral sex.

trinityness, Christian Forums 32 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18494

[Has anyone here ever heard of an atheist damaging a christian's car?]

Rather sure it happens daily. Ever heard of carjackings? I'm reasonably certain they aren't committed by devout Christians.

Not all atheists are the moral bunch we find here. Many are the worst criminals in society.

Avatar, Christian Forums 18 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18495

"Just because I have perception doesn't mean its self evident that I have perception."

YeshuMarine, CARM 24 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18496

Has the whole world gone mad? Marriage is and always will be defined as a1man and 1 woman. This is the norm for 9/10ths of the worlds population. A small minority practicing deviant behaviour because of lack of adult male loving relationships in childhood, (Straight) is not to be redefined as "normal". I do not boast of being the brightest star in the sky, but escuse me for noticing that male and female "plumbing" if you will, fit exactly. Not true with homo sexual acts. As we say here in Portland, :"The Hershey Highway is a one way street". Talk to any proctologist and they will tell you what they think of the affects of gay male to male sex does to their specialty practice patients.
. It is a choice whether concious or unconcious. We all make daily choices. Psychotherapy most times helps hurting , angry gays to FORGIVE and move on...To forgive is definitly a choice. I have interviewed many gays. ALL without exception were raped as children or teens. Hmmmmmmm...

Gracie and Will, www.timesonline.co.uk 34 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18497

So the scientists will believe in Vigin birth of a "dragon" (scratching head smiley)

But God could not have created one for Jesus?


Bystillwaters, Rapture Ready 31 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Darth Wang

Quote# 18499

Since scientists supposedly only base their findings on what they can observe, then according to them, no person for which there is no proof that he existed in the past, ever existed. No city of which they can't find remains, existed. No wars that weren't documented, actually existed. But they don't mind making up pre-history and new history that's never been documented anywhere like the new history of the Jews in order to pass along that apes bred human descendants.

So this cuts the knowledge of scientists down to only a fraction of what other people know and adds events that were never documented in history. And of course, the common person who can't think for himself, puts blind faith in these people whose knowledge is extremely limited or made up. That's the most irrational part of all.

Carico, CARM 26 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18500

Satan can make counterfeits of what God does. He has a counterfeit for everything good that God has made. There is mathmatical evidence that Jesus is who he said he was!!! God doesn't go around letting fathers sacrifice their children to him, he was testing Abraham and he provided the ram for the offering [[submitter's note: I was talking about the father in Judges 11:31-40 and told here that]]. Read your Bible before you try to argue next time so you can get things right.

[submission note from Big Mac: The comment is under comments of the FSM blog post, direct link to the comments section isn't working]

cowgirl4gsus, Battle Cry 20 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18501

God, although using human writers in the composition of the Bible, is nevertheless its ultimate Author. And since the perfect God cannot be the source of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33) or contradiction (Hebrews 6:18), it must be acknowledged that the Bible is perfectly harmonious. This does not mean that men will not struggle with difficult passages. If seeming discrepancies are discovered, let us apply ourselves to a diligent study in an effort to resolve them; but let us never foolishly charge God with allowing His sacred writers to contradict one another.

Marcy, Bonnie's Lounge 27 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18502

According to the biblical witness the human mind (in its unregenerate state) is foolish and God excluding. And this darkened intellect will generally interpret evidence of origins in a God excluding way. They claim to be objective, but this of course is impossible. We all begin with assumptions.

One example of this concerns so called transitional fossils. Creature A has specific features. Creature B has some of the same characteristics as creature A with a new feature or two. Creature C has some features of both with a new feature or two. The assumption is now made that creature B was a transition between A and C. And that they are all related. But this is pure assumption. We do not know if A was an actual ancestor to B and C. Heck we can not even know if A had any offspring that lived.

Now at times we will find A in lower strata than we find either B or C. So we assume that A is older. A may be older but again that does not prove physical ancestry. And often we will find both A and B or B and C in the same strata.

So we are left with induction and interpretation. And the carnal mind will do all it can to exclude God from the process; they will interpret the evidence in a God dishonoring way.

lion, CARM 14 Comments [12/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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