Quote# 18380

"Ok, here is the theory. There were these creatures with a light sensitive patch. Through a series of completely random mutations this light patch is turned into something akin to a modern eye. Ok, fanciful but plausible. What is not plausible is the idea that said random mutations produced a second eye that is nearly identical to the first, in the same creature."

Lion, CARM 38 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Aagcobb

Quote# 18381

[In response to an article about federal funding being denied for stem cell research.]

This Is Why We Are Winning, This Is Why

... 65% of Americans now oppose abortion.

[This isn't about abortion. It's about using embryos that were created at fertility clinics and are going to be thrown away if nobody uses them.]


For 40 years abortions including Planned Parenthood classroom instructors claimed that embryos were not a live. Now we are told that dead embryos are be used. How did they become dead if they were never alive? Now abortionists forgive me, stem cell people are growing embryos in labs. Only living things can be grown. If it is a human growing outside a mother than that human has constitutional rights doesn't it. Roe Vs Wade only applies to embryos (dead things) that are inside the mother. These are outside. Ohhhhh, it looks like another trip back to the US Supreme Court to resolve this dilemma. Gifted ones please explain this anomaly.

sovietdemocrats, Yahoo!News message board 28 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 18382

If you think that there is something wrong with my points, then kindly debate them with me. However, if you are incapable of doing so, that doesn't make my points "laughable." I am simply pointing out some flaws in our modern scientific theory and forcing people to contemplate the issues rather than blindly believe in what the scientific power structure tells them. Sometimes I feel like Galileo here, trying to tell people that the world is spherical.

RuleCaucasia, NationStates Forum 22 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Witty Name Here

Quote# 18383

I never said anything about torture, nor does the Bible say anything about torture. God does not torture anybody - he torments them. Revelation 14:10, 20:10.


Ceridwen, Christian Forums 57 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18384

Indeed. Even Heavenly lawn is so crisp that it shreds the damned's feet like broken shards of concrete. Heaven is denser, thicker and more real than Hell which is, by contrast, less defined, cloudy, grey, confusing and nebulous. The spirits in Heaven are more solid than the humans on earth, heavier and more real even. The spirits in Hell are nearly invisible, ghosts really.

What I also like is that Hell is smaller than Heaven. When the busload of the damned come up out of the Earth, they realize that they came out of a small thin crack, and now, once in Heaven they are unable to go back becaue they, quite literally, can't fit. So Heaven is a place that is more alive and real, the spirits dense, colorful and thick compared to Hell's citizens of Foggy Bottom who are ill-defined, see-through and frail.

It is the opposite of William Blake's paganism which suggested a merging between Heaven and Hell. Lewis' cosmology is in stark contrast. There is no room for a merge. You cannot even fit an atom of Heaven into the whole of Hell. It wouldn't fit. Again, literally.

Wyatt Junker, FSTD Boards 55 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Zipperback

Quote# 18385

And let me reiterate. Nihilism, in order to be pure, must be continuous. Otherwise, its not nihilism. Its psuedo-nihilism. BREAKING NEWS: We exist. Oooops. Nihilism just got compromised. As did atheism. Because if we die and go into atheism's pithed fairy tale land of nonexistent emptiness, we're gonna have to eradicate this life entirely of its molecular reality also. Either nihilism is linear or its not. Otherwise, it can't be nihilism and then... oh no... ahtheism doesn't have a home.

Wyatt Junker, FSTDT Boards 51 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Zipperback

Quote# 18300

And how the earth rotates around the sun in a perfect circle and not egg like. You will never find this anywhere else in the galaxy. A divine hand created life. And thats enough for me for proof of God.

caseypayne1980, 123 Christian Forums 45 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18305

If there were no God then there would be no atheists.

Bob Marley, Fundamental Forums 44 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18312

A "medical" motive for abortion is acute depression.

It is a temporary diagnosis done by the abortionist when the woman is in stirrups. Go figure ,he doesn't even speak to the patient and diagnosis it from under steril drapes.

coadie, CARM 16 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18314

im not SAYING its your duty to pump out babies.. your BIOLOGY is saying its your duty to pump out babies

because well, it pumps out babies

Propaganda, Myspace 39 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 18321

Homosexuality, if it is a congenital condition, is, by all degrees of logic, wrong!

Helping a handicapped personn OVERCOME their handicap is pure compassion and goodness. And yet, look at the posts calling me a hate-monger.

AlAyeti, debatingchristianity.com 34 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Archangel_Lucifer

Quote# 18326

You are a fool living in LA-LA land and you are talking about things you know nothing about.

...

You are 15. Double it to 30. that is how long I have given my life to the Scriptures, night and day, neverending, everyday, sacrificing all. Experiencing the spirit world. Traveling to the Dark World. The cloud World. The Bottomless Pit. Hell. The High Throne of God. Visiting with Jesus in person. Being in the grasps of Satan. Fighting his angels and demons.


Prophet Michael Mullen, Waroftheangels.org 58 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Ead

Quote# 18327

[Regarding the scientific theory of evolution]

I'm trying to help you guys to understand that what you believe is a fairy tale just like the three stories I posted. Your theory is not only religious, it is not only un-scientific, it is ANTI-scientific! You have no choice but to believe what has been disproven CENTURIES ago! Why? I think it's because you don't want to admit there is a God because if you do, you might have to follow some rules. "Thou shalt not. . ." Oh no! We don't like that idea! I know! Let's just all bury our heads in the sand and buy into this theory that Darwin (who wasn't even a scientist) proposed 150 years ago for which he had NO PROOF whatsoever!

Great idea!

Jonathan Wetsel, facebook 35 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremiah Santos

Quote# 18328

I'm not at all worried about the faithless individuals who see fit to post here, since they will be punished in Hell for eternity anyway. No, I'm more concerned with the kind people who have taken the trouble to point out the obvious. Are their souls at risk by allowing the creeping poison of so-called "science" erode their belief in Our Lord?

When we say that something appears to be "designed", we mean that it is too complex to have arisen naturally. Too much emphasis has been put on quibbling about obscure biological details, to my mind. Anyone can see the evidence for design all around us.

(after more ranting)

This result should come as good news to everyone who believes in the word of God - all the thoughts they are having are being put there by The Lord. The fact that many who accept the Bible know that the Book does not explicitly describe "free will" should certainly be gladdened; this extra thought has been put in their minds by God, in the same way as the Bible was inspired by Him. Of the thoughts placed into the minds of atheists and "scientists", I think we can agree that they have been placed there by another agency. The faithful should be wary of any thought that they believe to be "their own", since that is not possible, lest they deny God. Instead, they should examine it to determine its origin.




Zara, The Fighting Fundamental Forums 23 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18329

It could almost be said that ignorance of science is part of the true Christian tradition, since scientific ideas concern themselves with those things in the physical world. We know that the physical world has been polluted by Satan. To dabble with things that actually exist is to invite Lucifer into one's mind. Who needs that?

Under certain conditions, organic isomers will form long-lasting chain structures, such as we see in plastics. They will take much longer to decay than you or I. In an environment subject to extreme heat and pressure, we would not last for an instant, yet these are exactly the conditions needed to form diamonds, which contain billions of perfectly-ordered carbon atoms. Do you now see how dangerous scientific thinking is? If we look too closely, we will observe things that will serve to take us away from our faith in the Lord.

Have you been listening to those atheists? Are you saying that we don't know enough about the world to be certain that there is only one true God? Do the gaps in our knowledge mean that there are a number of extra Gods that we don't know about yet? Does Satan have a more-powerful Master who hasn't shown his hand yet?

I hope you're not saying that. No, the only way we can be certain of the salvation of Jesus is to assume that we already know as much as needs to be known.


Zara, The Fighting Fundamental Forums 41 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18332

Dr. Matson, is really a brilliant person and it seems like he knows all the little tiny question regarding the age of the earth. How old is Mr. matson! is he older than the universe? because it seems like he is responsible for all the question that needs to be answered. however as smart as brilliant he is Our God who created all things will always be sitting in His throne and won't be bothered for a moron like Dr. matson insisting his twisted unregenerated brain. because one day he (Dr. matson will stand before a holy God to answer for all his folly and mind him, God doesn't owe him,Mr. Matson any explanation as stated in Romans Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: No excuse!!! for Mr. Matson to do more research right at the very heart of HELL perhaps the degrees of flames and heat of the place will give him more accurate readings of the age of that awful place called HELL. I have one advice for Mr Matson its not yet too late!!! God will abundantly pardon for all who will believed in His Son the Lord Jesus Christ. as the Bible said " whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

: [email protected], Talkorigins feedback 9 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18333

I like how you say there is evidence to back your theories up but then you just state what a few individuals insight is about the event how come there are so many examples to refute over and over. and even the ocean has mountains still in it and have not eroded the ocean aint just flat on the bottom it has ridge's and mountains. I dont haft to be a geologist to know this. keep trying to deceive people though just wait till you get to space and try to explain why we are the only ones for millions of miles and why there aint other lives on other planets that a single celled organism didnt evolve into that could handle the environment. God Bless and keep the insane excuses going.

josh lamb, Talkorigins feedback 20 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18334

You Are LIERS!!! The Earth didn't even exist 7000yrs. It's only 6000and couple yrs.

If you people read the bible, it would be clear

Bye bye

Phillip, Talkorigins feedback 38 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18335

If I was to say that I was a scientist with amazing true data then I would be published unless......... I supported the FACT that God created the earth. You evolutionary people think that since some fossil looks old you can say that it is somewhere between 3.3 and 3.8 BILLION YEARS OLD. WHAT are you doing saying that this is true. No way do you know that this is true at all and you should be ashamed to try and make these statments. I for one am very offended by your lack of intelligence and wasted efforts in trying to support something that you have no evidence for. Please reconsider your efforts into something more worth while. Also, if you say that something is close to 3.3 billion to 3.8 billion years old (or so) that is proposterous. No way on earth is this a scientific statement. Think about how massive this statement is. It is just plain not good science. If we say trust in God because he is close this to this good and almost right and we don't quite have the evidence then you would laugh at me. At the very least do not state your things as fact. Say this is our theory and this is another theory. Never should you say that any of your stuff is fact unless you have 100% proof like we have in the BIBLE. Sorry but you SCIENTISTS make me laugh so much it is embarrassing.

Keith, Talkorigins feedback 34 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18337

Come on people. Im sorry, but I dont have enough faith to be an atheist. " For years the world orbited around, until struck by an asteroid, then broke art, reformed, and created what we now call "Earth” I mean seriously, there is more evidence that the Cave Men existed, than any type of stellar explosion that created us humans. Why didnt other animals evolve? People say they have, just before our time, but their were other people back when the dinos and older creatures where around, their pictures would have shown of how animals changed. Why do we have emotions, if there isnt a God? Animals feel fear, happiness, anger, and protectiveness, sometimes sorrow. But why do we feel remorse, anxiety, or true love animals dont get crushes. They get horny, but don’t fall in love. If the Big Bang only took a couple of thousand years, why has our Earth been around for millions and millions and nothing happened? Why are our bodies so perfect in the way they are, and there isnt one single hole in the Bible, yet many in science. I have come to believe my younger brother, more so than an evolutionist. Not trying to be crude, but think about it. If a Christian is wrong, o-well, we all die anyways. But if a non-believer is wrong, I mean that would suck. An eternity away from God and Heaven, stuck it the Lake of Fire with other no-Christians and demons. Your way will get you nowhere, you know there is a God, let Him be you God. I don’t care what you think of me for this, I know God is real, and I know where Im going when I die 110% Do you?

Apolo, EvC Forum 30 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Anglagard

Quote# 18338

[A fundie's comment to another, more informed Christian]

FUCK YOU GO TO HELL I HOPE UR GOD SMIGHTS U "SMIGHT" UR AN INSENSITIVE PRICK AND U DON'T RESPECT OUR BELIEFS ONE OF THESE DAYS UR GONNA DIE AND NOONE WILL CARE CAUSE UR A PRIC

deipok, Gaia profiles 45 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Toga

Quote# 18339

Then why do atheists only quote the parts in the bible that describe God's wrath and never quote the parts that talk about his love? The answer is simple; to try to jsutify their hatred of God. So sorry, but again the actions of atheists contradict their words.

Carico, CARM 49 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18340

Evolutionists have dreamed up a whole theory based on mutations. Millions of them, we are told, have arisen randomly, for no reason -- without any beneficial direction -- only to be chosen later by natural selection. This dogma has been forced down our throats ad nauseam. But you would think, being so-called scientists, that evolutionists would have tested this assertion. Wouldn't it only be logical to test to see if the so-called "fit" mutations actually had deleterious effects on surrounding molecules? Well, I think that would only be fair. But have evolutionists bothered to test and/or report the details to the uninformed public in their books? Of course not. And do you know why? It's because the evolutionary scientific communtiy is largely immoral and simply cannot be trusted. Period. Their little pet theory is like an emotional security blanket to them, and they don't want people -- especially Christians -- taking away their nite-nite blankey.

supersport, CARM 24 Comments [12/17/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18269

1) I would guess that ~50 times more people have been killed in the name of no God with Darwinism as its system of origins in the last 100 or so years than all of what have been killed in the name of God, rightly or wrongly, in the entirety of human history.

2) Most of the killing done in the name of religion was Satanic.

3) Christianity is not a religion, its a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I don't like religion either, Godless religions such as yours, or false religions, especially false Chrisitianity.

92g, Evolution Fairytale Forum 39 Comments [12/16/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18271

What to increase the number of kids beat up at school? Let homosexuals adopt.

christian_soldier, 123 Christian Forums 42 Comments [12/16/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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