Quote# 31269

Female rape victim gets 200 lashes and jail

A COURT in the ultra-conservative Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia is punishing a female victim of gang rape with 200 lashes and six months in jail.

The 19-year-old woman - whose six armed attackers have been sentenced to jail terms - was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape,'' the Arab News reported.

But in a new verdict issued after Saudi Arabia's Higher Judicial Council ordered a retrial, the court in the eastern town of Al-Qatif more than doubled the number of lashes to 200.

Islamic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, News.com.au 54 Comments [11/16/2007 1:42:24 AM]
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Quote# 31249



Back to school...or are they actually "temples"?


In today’s public schools, the Bible and its account of creation is excluded from almost all classrooms. In most cases this is due to the fear tactics and misinformation campaigns of mainstream scientists, publishers, and left-leaning special interest groups such as the ACLU and People for the American Way.

For example, most educators have been trained to insist that “science” can only apply to processes involving natural causes (naturalism), but not the supernatural.

In the guise of “science” they replaced the Christian view with “naturalism” – the basis for the anti-God religion of secular humanism.


4. If you are a Christian teacher in a public school, obtain our Special Report in the July 2007 edition of Answers magazine. You’ll find many tips for how you can legally and wisely communicate the Bible’s history of origins to the students in your care
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This web site not only advocates for pray and teaching of Judea-Christian scripture in our public schools it goes one step further and offers to send information to teachers of public schools who wish to learn how to break or circumvent the laws dividing church and state

Dr. Ken Ham, biblical evangelis 32 Comments [11/15/2007 11:55:34 PM]
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Submitted By: BuddT

Quote# 31254

[Kliska supposedly teaches a class on logic at the college level]

"Things and beings" are only imaginary if those things and beings are actually....what? Anybody? Anybody? Imaginary. When there are actual things and beings, such as God that are real, and that evidence, rational reasoning and logic point to, then they are not, by definition imaginary. God exists, there is evidence to point to Him, and reason and logic also point to Him. Hence, it is the utmost in rational thinking to let this fact pervade every single aspect of life.


Kliska, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [11/15/2007 11:44:32 PM]
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Quote# 31255

Well, I am sorry, I hope you don't take it personal. But I am going to attack what I don't believe in. I do it all out of love for you, because I want the best for every one, and like I said, I have yet to determine if Catholics are really Christians.

BigChrisfilm, Smelcer.net 36 Comments [11/15/2007 11:40:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Tdevil

Quote# 31256

I think technological advancement is driven by demonic forces, and always has been; their motive being to oppose Almighty God with the force available right here on this earth where they have been trapped among us. Our literal dependence on that technology drives us away from what God had intended and causes us to become calloused to the miraculous evidences of God by our reliance on false miracles.



Roamer_1, Free Republic 40 Comments [11/15/2007 11:15:36 PM]
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Quote# 31259

I want proof that we evolved from a rock. I want proof that my great great great great great great etc. grampa was soup.

BigChrisfilm, Debatingchristianity 66 Comments [11/15/2007 11:15:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Tdevil

Quote# 31253

At least in the new testament, I can only find justification for divorce between a believer and an unbeliever, and in the case of an illegal marriage (most say adultery in these verses). An illegal marriage could be a marriage that follows after a divorce, for example.

For people facing abuse of whatever kind, would they not be married to an unbeliever? Or maybe I should better say to an unsaved, since even the devil knows that Jesus is the Son of God? In any case, the abused have other options I think, that do not include divorce. You can put a safe distance between you for example. You might be able to get a criminal conviction and have the spouse (notice I don't say husband here) incarcerated. Maybe that abuser will come to know the Lord through your walk in Christ.

Christ did not divorce us when we shoved Him up the hill and nailed him to the cross. He continued to love us unconditionally. If abuse and cruelty were biblical grounds for divorce, it would be advantageous to me, but nowhere can I find that to be true. Instead I find that our Lord wants me to love and to serve my spouse unconditionally, that person to whom I pledged my life until death do us part.


Tall Timbers, Rapture Ready 27 Comments [11/15/2007 10:07:28 PM]
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Quote# 31252

I asked a former Satanist, now a Born Again Christian, how a Satanist looks as at Abortion. His reply was that Satanists regard Abortion as the highest level of human sacrifice to Lord Satan.

David Bay, Cutting Edge 50 Comments [11/15/2007 10:06:46 PM]
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Quote# 31246

The resurgence in the 1980's of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek feature films re-ignited the fire of millions of dormant "Trekies" around the country. Continuing on steadily through the 1990's, the Star Trek phenomenon branched out into multiple television shows that paid tribute the original 60's series. Replete with New Age iconography, the Star Trek shows categorically dealt with issues such as telekinesis, mental telepathy, atheism, psychic phenomena, channeling, mind transference, entities cohabiting the same body and occult themes and ideologies that were strung throughout the series. The creator of the rage, Gene Roddenberry, has become somewhat of an icon himself, and was responsible for much of the current space age mania that has become ingrained within the culture today.

It may be shocking to some to learn that this hero of sorts had zero regard for Christ and was dead set on establishing a new age of thought that countered Scripture through his cinema creations.

Jason Kovar, Hollywood Unmasked 47 Comments [11/15/2007 10:02:15 PM]
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Quote# 31248

GOD WILL BRING DOWN HIS FLAMMING SWORD OF VENGENCE ONTO THIS NATION FOR HER SIN OF BABY KILLING. TECHNICALLY MASTABATORY ACTIVITIES QUALIFY AS BABY MURDER ALSO BECAUSE IT SNUFFS OUT POTENTIAL FOR HUMAN LIFE TO CARRY ON SO YOU FILTHY DREAMERS WHO BRAKE SEED TO IMAGES OF BARE NAKED HARLOTS WILL NOT ESCAPE THE WRATH TO COME!!!! REPENT NOW!!! LIFE BEGINS WITH THE SEED.

Archie MAcgillicutty, palmbeachpost 71 Comments [11/15/2007 9:38:58 PM]
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Quote# 31233

Point is. Iraq was a national threat to the US security and the safety of the people. Again were not the ones flying planes into their buildings..

Killing infants has nothing to do with security or the safety of this country.. Infants have not commited terrorism or have done anything wrong. You can't compare the killing of the guilty with the innocent.. Abortion has nothing to do with national security..

[Further in the thread...]

Again your comparing the innocent with the guilty. And you do not know for sure that Iraw was not involved. Terrorism goes through all areas of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Arabia.

Abortion has nothing to do with national security or the safety of people. There is a human rights issue with abortion that is violated and such we should not have to pay taxes to support the killing of innocent people...The government needs to cut off ALL FUNDING from planned parenthood and other abortion clinics who mooch off the government

Renton405, foru.ms 25 Comments [11/15/2007 9:38:44 PM]
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Quote# 31234

[So you're ok with killing people who don't share the same beliefs as you (justifying it by saying they all want to kill people of your faith), but forcing someone into giving birth is a-o-k with you? Are you insane?]

Christians are being exterminated in the middle east. They are nearly extinct..

Forcing?? Its not my fault they got pregnant. They were the one having sex outside of marriage and doing careless things. Does a baby have to be ripped apart because of someones carelessness?

I say no. They have a right, just as anyone else. They need to deal with the consequences or adopt.

[You've failed to answer the most damning criticism, that if people didn't pay for what they didn't like, the United States would grind to a halt.]

Funding abortions with tax money does NOTHING for this country. It just makes it worse. I agree in necessary things that people don't want to pay. But abortion isn't one of those necessary things

Renton405, foru.ms 19 Comments [11/15/2007 8:39:36 PM]
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Quote# 31239

(Summary: OMG! CATHOLICS EAT BABIES!)

Do you know what "holocaust" means? It means "whole burnt offering." There is coming a day soon when Jews will not only be "whole burnt offering"-- they will be eaten in a ritual counterfeit of the Levitical model. Knowing that the Whore Church will contain all of the Ecumenical compromisers of Christendom, all Muslims and pagan religions, as well as the old Roman Mother Whore, we must realize that Promise Keepers rallies, New Age witches' coven rituals, World Council of Churches plenary sessions, and all denominational conferences will have one common high point-- the ritual roasting and eating of Jews. When Promise Keepers gurus and Pope John Paul II talk about "Communion," this is what they are talking about-- they just don't know it yet.

We have shown elsewhere in Balaam's Ass Speaks that the Manifest Sons of God teaches that those who refuse to "enter beyond the veil" must be destroyed. It will be a very short theological journey to go on to justify the eating of the bodies of those who are killed for not joining the Dominion program (pogrom?), especially the Jews who are already hated intensely by Reconstructionists and the Pope.

2002-- I recently was accused by a Reformed Jewish Rabbi of eating a Jew, in that, I eat the communion (Mass) and believe it is Jesus. This shows how utterly ignorant the average Rabbi is. He seemed to have no idea what a Fundamental Bible believer thinks of the Catholic Mass. These bigoted Rabbis refuse to learn enough about the Christian groups to know that there are true Bible believers, and there are Roman Whore Church believers, as well as many other heretics. This Rabbi thought he had me cornered. Well, this article will prove to any such silly ass that I love Jews. They may not like my hugs, but they get them anyway.

Steve Van Nattan, Blessed Quietness 35 Comments [11/15/2007 8:16:48 PM]
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Quote# 31235

[You defend the abolition of slavery, which granted millions of black Americans their rights as citizens, but you advocate denying women their reproductive rights. That tells me that you are only for people having rights when it doesn't bother you specifically.]

A woman’s reproductive right ends at the choice to have sex or not to have it or to have sex with or without contraceptives. Once a new life is formed the mother has no right to decided whether or not to kill the baby growing inside her. The woman’s body is not her own neither is the body of child in the womb, they both belong to God. We have stewardship over our bodies and those of our children but we must remember that God owns us and we need to obey him.

IronManMatt, foru.ms 28 Comments [11/15/2007 7:57:51 PM]
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Quote# 31236

[Then why do a majority of Christians accept the Theory of Evolution? And please don't use the No True Scotsman Fallacy. I'm really getting tired of it.]

Because the Majority of people (who might identify with christianity) are christian in name only. I know people who call themselves "christians" who do not even believe CHRIST was actually GOD with us. I know people who call themselves "christians" who do not believe JESUS actually rose from the dead. I know people who call themselves "christians" who do not believe satan exists. I know people who call themselves "christians" who dark the door of a church maybe once or twice a year.... What care I what the majority thinks or says?

LittleNipper, Foru.ms 30 Comments [11/15/2007 6:50:46 PM]
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Quote# 31232

Parents should love their normal children, its optional to love the gay ones.

thelaker, isoHunt 69 Comments [11/15/2007 6:38:03 PM]
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Submitted By: Mochtroid-X

Quote# 31229

Furthermore, if I stepped outside of my whole perspective (which does not have any universal merit outside of itself), it is easy to acknowledge that there is a possibility a God did create the world 1,000 years ago and just planted false memories and false fossils in the ground to "test" my faith in God. This remains a possibility, because no matter how hard I may try, I cannot disprove it...
Yet, for me, God still does exist, due to something much stronger and more human than "facts": faith.

Kevin Dillon, Tufts Daily Op-Ed 29 Comments [11/15/2007 6:36:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Jason Walker

Quote# 31230

I'm sure I speak for many Christians when I say: I know the answers; I'm not interested in the truth.

chipw, PBS Discussion forum 67 Comments [11/15/2007 11:37:14 AM]
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Quote# 31224

I heard a Muslim female who is now a Born Again Believer say this on Zola Levitt and I am in agreement with her. She said it so well. And this is what she said, "Not all Muslims are terrorists.........but ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIM."


Rachael59, Rapture Ready 72 Comments [11/15/2007 6:47:40 AM]
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Quote# 31214

11. Tim plays the Hitler card based on one or two of Hitler's angry, boastful, phony professions of faith which were designed to fool people, particularly Christian pastors. If Hitler was a Christian why did he:

1. Practice Occultism w/the rest of 3rd Reich?
2. Torture, mock and murder Christians and Jews?
3. Say you "can't be a German and a Christian"?
4. Lie like no one ever has? (Habitual liars will be punished according to Revelation 21:8)
5. Violate virtually every tenet of scripture in
his murderous crusade against the world. (..by their fruits you will know them. Matthew 7:20)
6. Believe evolution not creation? (The "master race" theory.)
7. And why is he not regarded as a Christian by any reputable theologian? Only atheists keep trying to put him in the Christian camp to try to even the score when someone points out all the 20th century tyrants who were atheist.
(8. Judas Iscariot professed to be a believer, too. He wasn't.)

Dave, AOL News 38 Comments [11/15/2007 2:15:02 AM]
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Quote# 31207

If you'll read the books and listen to the TV cartoons based on these toys, you'll soon pick up bits and pieces of magic and witchcraft that are excess and burdensome baggage for our Christian children to carry around. It builds a subtle familiarity with certain practices within spiritualism and satanic cults that can ultimately deaden a child's sensitivity against evil. For example, with Rainbow Brite there are the magical rainbow, unicorns, and other symbols that are used by Satan worshippers, and with the Care Bears there is the special force that emanates out of the bellies of the bears that is able to influence others. All of these are concepts of witchcraft!

Kay Kuzma, Hidden dangers of "safe" toys 41 Comments [11/14/2007 11:38:54 PM]
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Quote# 31215

What's amazing about this is that the atheistic/evolution camp is becoming more hostile towards the idea of aternatives being taught in school than theists are of evolution being taught in their schools.
If you read the interview between the Nova correspondant and the intelligent design advocate, you would know that he is not trying to take evolution out of schools. He is simply stating the obvious fact that although the picture looks good overall, the supporting evidence for evolution is full of holes.
He's not saying that anyone shouldn't believe in it. What he is saying is that the supporting evidence is not complete enough to present it that way that most teachers and professors do.
If you want to believe that it took millions of years for all of this stuff to come about then I support you in that. This is the land of the free! But you are depriving schools of the same freedom. A vast amount of Americans want the alternative to Evolution taught along side it. They don't want evolution out of our schools, they just want the professors to be honest with the students about the lack of full evidence.
On the other hand, the evolution camp applauds those teachers who refuse to teach an alternative. Why the double standard? Do unload the "one is proven, one is not" load because you know as well as I do that the theory is simply the best you've come up with, not the ends.

cababika799, Digg 48 Comments [11/14/2007 11:38:41 PM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 31218

If I am left here, I'll fall on my face and ask for His Mercy, I'll repent and go out immediately, sell everything and begin preaching on the street and winning every soul I can get my hands on, so they can arrest me and make a martyr out of me. Best way to get to heaven [smilie]

Racheal59, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [11/14/2007 11:37:45 PM]
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Quote# 31203

The term "religious people" is meaningless. All people - especially militant anti-theists - are religious. The vital question is what one's religion believes. What I call "The Great Faith" of the Judeo-Christian heritage believes in a loving, good and just God - a Blessed Creator, as devout Jews might put it.


The history of Judeo-Christians is profoundly different than the history of other religious peoples, including religious anti-theists. The religious people of pre-Columbian American Mexico conquered other tribes simply to sacrifice them to Aztec gods. The religious people of Imperial Japan committed unspeakable crimes against the Chinese in following their national religion. The religious Nazis, who loathed passionately both Christianity and Judaism, committed unspeakable crimes against Jews, Poles and others. The religious anti-theists of Stalinist Russia and Maoist China murdered more than any other religion in history. And, of course, radical Islam murders indiscriminately.


No crimes of Judeo-Christians remotely approaches the holocausts of Aztecs, Japanese, Nazis, atheist Russia or atheist Japan. Why? Because all religions are not the same. Some religions are good and some religions are bad. Almost every single movement or belief which we now consider good originated in Christianity or Judaism. Abolitionism, prison reform, compassion for animals, equality before the law, medical science, systematic intellectual inquiry - nearly everything - traces back to a Christian or a Jew.


Bruce Walker, americanthinker 37 Comments [11/14/2007 11:37:05 PM]
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Quote# 31213

It is not a pleasant topic, and I notice that prophecy speakers don't bring it up, but the Jews during the Great Tribulation are destined to be eaten literally by the twisted followers of Satan. If you are not born again, and if you are a Gentile, you WILL one day think it is cool to eat Jews. You will go to eat out and relish hamburgers and steaks of Jew. I think this is a good enough reason to consider coming to the Lord Jesus Christ in repentance and seeking His salvation. You can avoid this certain destiny. So, read the following and consider the future.

Steve Van Nattan, Blessed Quietness 67 Comments [11/14/2007 10:31:10 PM]
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