Quote# 32551

[The members of the Pinellas County (FL) School Board, on their decision to exclude "evolution only" teaching from the schools]

"I think that students should be given the opportunity to view all theories on how man evolved and let their science background and their religious background take over as to which one they believe in," said Gallucci, the immediate past president of the National School Boards Association.

Bostock: "The entire theory of evolution is not scientific fact. Intelligent design balances it out."

Cook: "To teach one as if nothing else existed, I think we're doing our students a disservice."

O'Shea suggested that parents who object to evolution being taught to their children might be able to opt them out of that day's lesson. "I'd probably ideally like to keep it all out of the classroom," she said. "If it's going to create this much controversy, how important is it?"

Jane Galluci, Carol Cook, Peggy O'Shea and Nancy Bostock, Tampa Bay.com 48 Comments [12/19/2007 11:42:02 AM]
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Submitted By: ez_c

Quote# 32555

No, religion isn't about trying to prove science wrong. The Bible itself is a science book, accurate in every way.

RejectedDreams, DeviantArt 51 Comments [12/19/2007 8:36:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Manfred

Quote# 32540

A great many of the world's greatest scientists believe in an intelligent creator. God's "laboratory" is the universe, not the limited environment of the science lab.
I am not worried about leaders who believe in intelligent design, God, or biblical creationism. The narrow-minded who can observe the wonder all around us (including ourselves) and come to the absurd conclusion that this all happened randomly, and who then wish to drastically alter our way of life, business, government, birth rates, and survival as a result - now those are scary people I don't want leading this or any other nation.

Paul Sharp, The Salt Lake Tribune 29 Comments [12/19/2007 7:17:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 32529

I was just checking on you guys who have put Charles Darwin in place of The Almighty God of Heaven.

Where is charles darwin? DEAD! But God is still there guys. He is everlasting. You will be judged; I mean both of you; you and charles darwin, the master of the most bebased hypothesis called evolution.

WATCH THIS VIDEO: http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=e4073b002a83612d4026

Prophets N Kings, facebook 47 Comments [12/19/2007 6:12:58 AM]
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Submitted By: jellobiafra79

Quote# 32525

Folks, there are no facts that C02 emissions are causing global warming. That is a {horrible} theory.

It's NOTHING but POLITICS.

Even the dude who made the weather channel doubts Cars are causing global warming.



We have to take account history {which IS FACT} where the earth has warmed { The heat days of Europe} and it simply could be natural patterns in the earth.



There are theories talking about how the earth poles could flip. That could impact the climate.

The plate tectonic theory also plays a impact on climate.

We have to take these facts into consideration.

Jayton, ChristianForums 36 Comments [12/19/2007 4:34:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Gaara of the Sand

Quote# 32539

It may be weak, but it's far from false. We all, excluding third world countries, have science thrust upon us at an early age, everyday in school. While not all science deals with evolution, we have been taught to believe that science is as true as mathematics, so that once a scientist says something, we automatically classify it as truth and a new discovery. We find a couple of bones not quite shaped like the normal human skull and instead of turning to erosion or pressure we immediately assume we evolved from these "cavemen."

Answer (aka _gonzalez), MPA Network 25 Comments [12/19/2007 3:07:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Icestorm

Quote# 32546

I really don't think anyone cares what science believes - if it tells us the earth is old, it is clearly wrong.

Supersport, Rants 'n Raves 32 Comments [12/19/2007 3:04:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Wolfhound

Quote# 32536

All you've pointed out is that alternative theories to creationism exist. That does not disprove creationism. And citing the volume of material that has been written on the subject is irrelevant when you consider that at least just as much material has been written in support of creaitonism.

ElijahFalling, foru.ms 20 Comments [12/19/2007 2:32:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Moordryd

Quote# 32530

[when it was pointed out that even Answers in Genesis disputes Setterfield's speed of light conclusions]

I see a pattern in your (plural, i.e. from the skeptics as a whole) posts:

Deny, object, pull down, disagree. Look for some less well researched creationist organization that disagrees with Dr. Hovind. Find some reason to besmirch or to poke fun. Interrupt, look for errors.

It is one thing to disagree honestly.

It is quite another to aim to detract and distract.

P.A., CSE blogs 29 Comments [12/18/2007 11:59:17 PM]
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Quote# 32533

[Is that really the best you can do? You have taken it upon yourself to judge and condemn millions.. surely you must have more verses that pertain to creationist and the fact that they are the only ones who are saved. Try again.]

Revelation 21:8 states that all liars go to Hell.
Evolution is a lie.
Therefore, all evolutionists will go to Hell.

It's really quite simple.

ElijahFalling, foru.ms 41 Comments [12/18/2007 8:45:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Moordryd

Quote# 32524

[ In response to the question "Would you burn a bible to save you and your familys life? If you absolutely had to would you?" ]

No, never, burn me and my family before burning the word of God.

Yes, bibles are burned that are old at some times. The question though, asks if I would do it to save or in exchange for, my family and myself.

dmd, Yahoo!Answers - Religion & Spirituality 48 Comments [12/18/2007 8:44:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Tirya

Quote# 32519

"Its no surprise that marijuana leaves have five points, just like a pentagram."

Sunny Ray, TotalFark 55 Comments [12/18/2007 8:36:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Bob

Quote# 32517

[From a newspaper article -- note also the dishonest irony of the name of the quoted fundie's organization.]

Emphatically, we are not trying to 'take evolution out of the schools,' " said Mark Ramsey of Texans for Better Science Education, which wants schools to teach about weaknesses in evolution. "All good educators know that when students are taught both sides of an issue such as biologic evolution, they understand each side better. What are the Darwinists afraid of?"

Mark Ramsey of "Texans for Better Science Education", dallasnews.com (The Dallas Morning News) 49 Comments [12/18/2007 6:44:07 PM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 32507

Well, I for one agree with what was said about people getting over it.
This junk was all started by the ACLU, which all of them should jump off the highest bridge they can find. They are nothing but trouble makers.
And also Communists.

roadrunner, Chillicothe Gazette 23 Comments [12/18/2007 1:45:05 PM]
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Quote# 32504

Evolutionists are fond of saying that the sun provides more than enough energy to drive their postulate. But does it? Is the energy useful to their postulate?

Raw energy from the sun, if not for the ability of living things to convert it to useful energy such as sugars, proteins etc. would be a destroyer of life. In many of the scenarios of primitive life the UV radiation is looked as the driver of the mutations need for evolution, but it conversely would destroy the organism as well if not protected. In fact the mutation rate being very slow and the energy being very fast the destruction would be very many times faster than the creation.


Raw energy from the sun, cannot create the specified complexity needed for life. It can only cause complexity to be lost in mutations. In the labs scientists use sophisticated equipment to polymerize proteins in the right way. If sunlight were to enter this process it would destroy the proteins


in out. ill pick this up in do time.

Riot Maker, Dreamviews Forums 38 Comments [12/18/2007 1:42:59 PM]
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Submitted By: Moordryd

Quote# 32506

I, in my opinion, try to respect the religion of others, but when the other Religions try to comdem what Christians have believed for since the Founding Fathers of the United States and for hundreds of years before that, gave us the Freedom of Religion in the Constitution. Herein lies the problem, our Forefathers were not Buddhists, Muslims, Hinduism but were God-fearing Christians as we know Christians. Thus we were given the right of Freedom of Religion as they knew it. I know other Religions are Centuries old also but most were unheard of by the Founding Fathers of this Country. I don't believe that the Founding Fathers realized what a mess the world would become or how so many Religions hate each other and the followers of those Religions. I believe it is time to realize that when an immigrant comes to the United States and becomes a United States citizen , that you adopt our beliefs and quit fighting Holy Wars. It is time to unite not divide . Come together and worship as one. Quit condeming. Enjoy the Birth of Christ.

James W. Davis, Chillicothe Gazette 32 Comments [12/18/2007 1:21:06 PM]
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Quote# 32510

Republicans are conservative.

Democrates are Socialist and Communist. Look at Hillary Clinton, she was predicted by Nostrodomus as being the Anti-Christ and destroying the land of the eagle.

rpschnecksr, Military.com 55 Comments [12/18/2007 9:10:22 AM]
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Quote# 32531

That's GREAT! I often hear from new homeschoolers that their children are
preferring to play with the parents, siblings, and alone, soon after
beginning homeschooling.

In my opinion, that's part of the goal. Congratulations! She was becoming
addicted to interaction with her peers, who were, perhaps unintentionally,
stealing her heart from you. She had already started down the road to
becoming peer-dependent. But now, she is preferring being with you, being
with her little brother, and being alone. I think that's really healthy.

Johnathon Lindvall, Bold Christian Living 70 Comments [12/18/2007 7:01:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Traitor1

Quote# 32516

I hear most people say that Christmas isn't important anyway because apparently "Christ was not born anywhere near December 25th." I guess I must be one of the few that believes He was indeed born on or near December 25th. I believe that the devil, who is the master of corruption, then went and tried to make the Christians think it was a pagan holiday

Aussie Mama 4 Jesus, Aussie Mama 4 Jesus 72 Comments [12/18/2007 6:35:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Charlie

Quote# 32508

The ACLU should be called the Anti-Christian-Liberties-Union. Because the seem to come after Christian ideas and principles, more that anything else.

Life would be so much better without them, and the liberal, anti-Christian hatred that they spew.

justdale, Chillicothe Gazette 26 Comments [12/18/2007 6:33:24 AM]
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Quote# 32511

[BuzzardHut dishes out some sound medical advice on a thread about someone who describes their daughter as "She id[sic] Bipolar, has Borderline Personality Disorder, and is ADHD.....".

Medical doctors' advice: be patient with her rebellious behaviour.

Buzz's advice:]

Why would those nutty counselors give the daughter the rule of the house?
That's the opposite of God's Plan.
It's time for boot camp or Iraq
Give her a dose of reality and sue the quacks for malpractice

BuzzardHut, Rapture Ready 46 Comments [12/18/2007 5:31:03 AM]
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Quote# 32495

It is the proclaimed aim of world Communism and its traitors within the ranks of Christendom, to demoralize the Christian world, and thus destroy all opposition to communism.

The conspiracy against the Christian World comes direct from the Communist camp, but was initiated in the "Synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9), we know as International Zionism.

This plan is to so cripple the fighting spirit of North-American Christian anti-communists in particular, that they can bring this nation of ours within the sphere of their Satanic influence. In other words, it is intended to cripple the defensive power of the Israel nations we call Christendom, so as to pave the way for the ultimate triumph of anti-God Talmudic Communism.

Of all the reactionary systems which have been developed during the 6,000 years of written history for the destruction of moral values, Talmudic communism ranks first. It is without doubt the most perfected, the most efficient and the most merciless system the world has ever seen and the most successful. Already, in a matter of some 70 years, it has subdued over 1/3 of the earth and subjected over 2-billion people to the most merciless dictatorship in the annals of history.

Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, Scriptures for America 33 Comments [12/18/2007 5:24:53 AM]
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Quote# 32497

If Islamic extremists really love their religious institutions in the way that they claim they do, then pointing an ICBM at Mecca may not be the most irrational thing to do. They may not care if the rest of the world goes up in a nuclear mushroom cloud, as Bill points out, but Mecca is not the rest of the world. Would they really risk blowing up New York City if they believed the consequences of such an action would be a 30 kiloton nuclear explosion over the Kaaba stone? After all, the nuclear destruction of Mecca would end Islamic forms of worship as they presently exist.

Dr. Rusty Shackleford, Truth and Grace 36 Comments [12/18/2007 5:12:59 AM]
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Quote# 32493

I obviously share your conclusion that young women serving on a jury is
a very vulnerable, potentially damaging experience we should be able to
shield them from. Let me share some thoughts of how we can protect our
daughters from this particular emotional/mental threat.

You noted that "never allowing her to become a registered voter" is
something you have learned the hard way. This is definitely one of the
ways we express our "individuality" in our culture. Early in the
republic's history, only heads of households voted. Sadly, today even in
very conservative households most of us have embraced the philosophic
underpinnings of the women's suffrage movement. Of course women should
vote! Therefore even Christian couples occasionally "split" their vote,
canceling one another's vote.

But since women are allowed to vote in our society, doesn't this mean
Christians must compromise with the cultural mores and have our wives
vote, so we can double our impact? This assumes that God NEEDS our help
in appointing His choice of leaders (Romans 13:1 makes it clear that all
"authorities that exist are appointed by God"). Especially if
registering to vote creates greater vulnerability for our families,
perhaps we should rethink this question.

Jonathan Lindvall, Bold Christian Living 42 Comments [12/18/2007 3:14:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Eileen

Quote# 32494

Proof is a manmade word and not one that can be utilized in the defense of anything!

Apologist17, www-christiansareus-com 44 Comments [12/18/2007 3:12:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Lazarus Long