Quote# 21364

The Vedic account of our planetary system is already researched, concluded, and perfect. The Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore, even if we accept the modern calculation of 93 million miles as the distance from the earth to the sun, how could the "astronauts" have traveled to the moon--a distance of almost 94 million miles--in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the Apollo 11 moon trip)? This would require an average speed of more than one million miles per hour for the spacecraft, a patently impossible feat by even the space scientists' calculations.

prabhupada Hare Krishnas, prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network 46 Comments [2/28/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Dave

Quote# 21247

Tell me, you all knowing atheist non creationists, how did the primordial soup decide what an eye would look like or how it should function or an ear or a nose?

How did the primordial soup determine that there should be millions of different species of fish, fowl and mammal etc? and what they should look like, act, behave, build nests etc. etc. etc.?

How did just two microscopic thingamajigs get together and say, Hey, we need to make an elephant! Yes, and this is how it should look. Let's give it huge ears, eyes, a trunk for a nose, tusks etc.? Then two other microscopic thingamajigs also got together and decided that there needs to be monkeys. Then to more and this went of until there were millions of pairings of two thingamajigs that each decided to make an entirely separate animal.

What you in fact are doing is deifying the primordial soup. Maybe you atheists should worship pond skum?

TonyN, Internet Infidels 48 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21248

(responding to bacteria formation on other planets, but not human life)

Just goes to show how this earth was created by God for humans in his image. He disn't create us to be able to withstand high temp. Or hell wouldn't be that big of a dea. He didn't create us around a strong gravity based planet or we'd more likely crawl be huge muscle masses.

caseypayne1980, 123 Christian Forums 23 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21249

[Virgin Mary appears on pizza pan]

<img src="http://i12.tinypic.com/346xfz5.jpg">

Devout churchgoers have begun worshipping a pizza pan - after claiming the Virgin Mary has appeared amid the melted cheese, tomato and pepperoni.

Dinner ladies at a school in Texas discovered what they took to be Mary's image on the base of a cooking tray.

Sceptics may say it looks like little more than a random, formless stain.

But after fevered scrubbing failed to shift it, rumour spread of a divine apparation - and now pilgrims have been flocking to a makeshift shrine in the tray's honour.

One woman came to the school in Houston seeking healing for her disabled grandson.

School canteen worker Guadalupe Rodriguez, who first spotted the mark on Ash Wednesday, said: 'On the third rinse I started watching it, trying to discover what it was. 'It showed to me like it is the Virgin Mary.' Pupil Anel Villareal said: 'They said, "The Virgin is in the cafeteria" and I ran over there to see. 'My God, it was the Virgin. I cried when I see her with my own eyes.'

Pugh Elementary School principal Lyda Guerrero said: 'I think someone was watching over us.

'I think someone is watching over this community and this school district and this school."

A shrine, with the tray at its centre, has now been set up outside the home of a parent teacher association member, but others are claiming they should have custody.

In the past, the Virgin Mary has been said to appear on a toasted cheese sandwich in Florida, a Chicago underpass and a blob of dried chocolate at a Californian factory.

Dinner ladies, Metro.co.uk 51 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21251

[On why vaccines which prevent cervical cancer is a bad idea]

I'm all for preventing disease, but I also think it is my duty as a Christian to stand against anything that facilitates sin - and such wholesale vaccinations as mentioned here are nothing but preparatory exercises to accomodate bad decisions. And sex outside of marriage presents a bigger problem - a longer lasting problem - than cervical cancer.

As medicine continues to trim away the checks our creator placed on our behavior, it's important for those of us in the Christian faith to remind the world that there is still a very good reason for abstaining from sin - whether or not all the consequences remain in play.

[Emphasis added]

Malott, The Right Perspective comments 48 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jacob

Quote# 21254

Are you aware that part of the reason for you being under such attack is from people praying against you, putting curses on you, etc. In addition to talking about satan worshipers, witches, etc., I am talking about your family members, friends, and other fellow Christians who are not in DELIVERANCE.

Well, the below listed scriptures, Deuteronomy 30:7, Psalm 109, 140, and Isaiah 54:17 are just three passages that offer us some protection against people coming against us. I personally know of a number of people who came against me, and met with terrible judgment from the Lord. One man use to make fun by saying frequently, "Seen any demons lately?", with a laugh. He unexpectedly was fired from his job, his wife divorced him, he was in an auto wreck that almost killed him, he turned into an alcoholic, and had a massive heart attack. A previous employer who tried to fire me lost a multi-million dollar contract for interfering with God's work. I've heard or read testimonies from some of you where God has intervened or judged on your behalf.

These kinds of things happen to people all the time. Sometimes it happens real quick, and sometimes it takes days, weeks, months, or even years before the judgment of God falls on them. If you are under a lot of attack, you may want to specifically pray these scriptures against someone. It is God's business when and how he deals with that person. If the person is innocent, nothing will happen to them. I make it a point to warn people, especially about Psalm 109, so they don't make fun or mock God's ministry of DELIVERANCE.

Azrael, Demonbusters 26 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21260

there is no reasoning with people who refuse to accept His Truth. I've seen many angry atheists in my time..most of them have admitted to experimentation with perversions like drug abuse homosexuality witchcraft and trying to dye their skin..

You can offer them the Truth and they will deny it, they want to remain willfully ignorant they want to run from Him. Remember...they have made the jump from believing a God--&gt;no god...on top of believing fairy tails and pseudoscientific theories..

History has shown the true danger of being absent of God..the nazis were the greatest atheistic threat modern society has ever faced. We saw what darwinism was capable of..but ultimately good will prevail. They can run and deny, but only they wil have to answer to their chosen savior...Satan...

Trinidad and Tobago, CARM 23 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21261

Al Gore will only be rememberd as a 21st century "Charles Darwin"..and like Darwin..his crazy theory will run out of steam much like evolution has today. We as a society will look back and laugh at the ridiculousness in the future..much like we do today with evolution. Hopefully by then though, we will be able to destroy such vile literature and ideas...degrading society by allowing such nonsense to flourish is Anti-American.

Trinidad and Tobago, CARM 45 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21270

[a discussion about why atheists don't understand the bible, the entire conversation is irritating, but its like a car crash and I cannot look away]

Because atheists are delusional, psychotic and irrational and they are being guided by Satan.

George Yurich, CARM.org 15 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Missa

Quote# 21271

What lies beneath the ice in Antarctica?

It is commonly speculated that Antarctica was once a tropical paradise. Imagine, for a moment, the possibility of great cities, frozen Nephilim, and technology greater than ours, lying preserved beneath the icy, Antarctic surface!

Taking this a bit further, I ask you to cast aside what you've been programmed to think, and consider the possibility that the Earth is, in fact, a hollow planet. Posted below is a crude, 2-dimensional representation of what I am proposing: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/bdw84/Hollow_Earth2.jpg [diagram of his idea]

The first layer (in blue) is the outer atmosphere of the Earth. The inner and outer crust (in green) of the Earth are collectively 1000 miles thick, with a thin layer of molten rock (orange) sandwiched in-between. This is the location of Hell, where the souls of the damned are imprisoned -- reserved for the Great and Terrible Day of Judgment.

<"supporting" bible quote>

Beyond that, there are many additional layers:

The inner crust itself, where paradise (Abraham's Bosom) was located. This is where the souls of the Righteous were preserved for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, at which point the souls were carried away into Heaven.

[more "supporting" bible quotes]

Jesus Christ spent three days in this heart of the earth.

Moving on...

The fifth layer, the inner atmosphere (blue), is held to the inner surface by centrifugal force. Beyond that lies the vacuum of space, separating the inner Earth from the inner star, which brings us to the conclusion of our marvelous journey! At the heart of the Earth is Solterra, which provides daylight and warmth to the inner world.

B®ent, Christian Forums 56 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremy PC

Quote# 21272

Bridget: ahh you know they dont like common sense especially when its the truth... especially the guy who is saying that abortion is genocide if they really knew the definition of genocide maybe just maybe they might change their view about whether or not genocide is abortion or not lol

Crip: CORRECTION:
Abortion is holocaust NOT genocide. Look it up women.

Bridget and Crip, Myspace 9 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 21275

Am i alone here but does anyone feel like beating up a Mormon there the reason why American fucking sucks there trying to censor us all.

Zodiac Sign., Myspace 27 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 21276

Terrorism: is defined by the US Department of Defense as "the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives."

Sounds like atheism to me. Like when they want "God" off of everything.

I'm done with this discussion. The thread topic is repulsive and nauseating.
__________________
Politically Incorrect Hottie

sandy, American Idol Chat 33 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Ionakana77

Quote# 21278

Jews are NOT, repeat NOT, Israel.
Christians are Israel. Jesus says so.

disruptor, 123 Christian Forums 48 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21279

Biologists shoot themselves in the foot....again!

Conclusion: concerning some of the "advantages" that humans have over the lower primates as we have discussed above, the larger brain size, speech/language, communicative eyes, bipedal locomotion; how do each of these transfer to "an individual's reproductive success"? Especially if we are talking about many "micromutations" over a very long time period. What great advantage is 0.01% larger brain size, 0.01% greater speech capability, 0.01% more communicative eyes, 0.01% more bipedal locomotion?

Answer: NONE!Then we would seem to be left with "fortuitous mutations" or "macromutations"!

Casey Powell, CARM 32 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21281

Are you another victim of FSTDT? As most people here know, I'm hated there for wanting them to go to heaven. So as Jesus said; "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." "No servant can be greater than his master." So we're in great company, my friend. So the slander of atheists proves Jesus right once again.

Carico, CARM 38 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21285

So they were still all speaking english right up until Babel?

kega, EvolutionFairytaleForum 33 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21287

Atheism and terrorism were linked long before I was born. Intelligent people know that. Whiney anti-American traitor/treasonists don't.

sandy, American Idol Chat 23 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21288

[On Barack Obama]

He has Hollyweird for him. He has fooled Americans into thinking he's a Christian. The baby-killers love him. The sodomists love him. Low-income people love him. Welfare recipients love him. Criminal aliens love him. His fellow muslims love him. Anti-Americans love him. Anti-God people love him.

They think he's the next Kennedy. God help us all.

What he doesn't have is the black vote. They're too smart to buy his bs.

sandy, American Idol Chat 16 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21291

[An Asian fundie journalist writing in a newspaper article entitled "Why I Hate Blacks"]

A San Francisco weekly newspaper that bills itself as "The Voice of Asian America" is facing harsh criticism from that very community for publishing a column Friday titled "Why I Hate Blacks."

In the column, AsianWeek regular contributor Kenneth Eng listed "reasons" to discriminate against African Americans.

[...]

Eng's "reasons" for hating black people include:

-- "Blacks hate us. Every Asian who has ever come across them knows that they take almost every opportunity to hurl racist remarks at us."

-- "Contrary to media depictions, I would argue that blacks are weak-willed. They are the only race that has been enslaved for 300 years."

-- "Blacks are easy to coerce. This is proven by the fact that so many of them, including the Rev. Al Sharpton, tend to be Christians."

Kenneth Eng, SFGate.com 16 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: ez-c

Quote# 21293

A woman in South Russia’s Stavropol Region has turned to court in an attempt to change the number 666 under which the birth of her daughter was registered in the official book, the Moskovsky Komsomolets daily reports on Monday.

The girl is already two years old, but the woman only recently has learned about the number under which her daughter’s birth had been registered. As a devout Christian, the woman asked the officials to change the entry number as, in her mind, the number 666 was ’satanic’, ’soiled any Christian’ and was ’a seal of Antichrist and a Satanists’ symbol“. The public registry office refused to do so and the woman took the case to court.


unnamed Russian fundie, MOSNEWS.com 26 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: ez-c

Quote# 21297

It is contrary to Christian teaching to say that "Non-Christians don't have fear of divine vengeance." The first Chapter of Romans clearly states that Non-Christians know of God and his retribution of evil for evil, but repress this knowledge. The unfaithful may try to push the anxieties out of their heads, but they will never go away. Non-Christians like you fear God but try not to. They try to pretend that his retribution does not exist. Look around you at this forum -- the unfaithful here are all trying to assuage their troubled minds!

(Some Non-Christians, for example, Platonic Theists, try to persuade themselves that what they are fearing is a corrective punishment by God. They claim that divine retribution is proper to fear but also proper to experience. But this too is a repression of reality.)

But there will not be peace except for the peace of God on his terms. Let the fear remain until your throw yourself under the aegis of the cross!


Cerdiwen, Christian Forums 25 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: JustinGG

Quote# 21298

"Dr. Gary Merrill wouldn't treat [Tasha Childress'] daughter for an ear infection because Tasha, the mother, has tattoos.

The writing is on the wall — literally: "This is a private office. Appearance and behavior standards apply."

For Dr. Gary Merrill of Christian Medical Services, that means no tattoos, body piercings, and a host of other requirements — all standards Merrill has set based upon his Christian faith.

"She had to go that entire night with her ear infection with no medicine because he has his policy," Tasha Childress said."

Dr Gary Merrill, KGET 73 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21299

The scientific method cannot defend itself, it needs the Bible to defend it. Empirical, inductive study in itself has certain preconditions which can be intelligibly accounted for only on the presupposition of Christianity. The scientific method, wrenched from its biblical moorings, gives no warrant for its presupposition of the intelligibility and possibility of scientific knowledge about nature and history.


Ceridwen, Christian Forums 25 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21301

LYNCHBURG, Va. The Reverend Jerry Falwell says global warming is "Satan's attempt to redirect the church's primary focus" from evangelism to environmentalism.
Falwell told his Baptist congregation in Lynchburg yesterday that "the jury is still out" on whether humans are causing -- or could stop -- global warming.

But he said some "naive Christian leaders" are being "duped" by arguments like those presented in former Vice President Al Gore's documentary "An Inconvenient Truth. Falwell says the documentary should have been titled "A Convenient Untruth."

Falwell said the Bible teaches that God will maintain the Earth until Jesus returns, so Christians should be responsible environmentalists, but not what he calls ... quote ... "first-class nuts."

Jerry Falwell, WRIC 38 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren