Quote# 21304

We (women) are to be silent in church.. We are not to be leaders or pastors or teaching men in the church enviorment.. Our head covering is our husband.. Women are not to upsurp the authority that God has placed upon man. Now if a Pastor calls upon us to read a scripture we are not upsurping his authority we are being submissive to it. To disagree to do this would be upsurping his authority as our shepherd. I will have to study the head coverings more.. I don't really have an answer right now on that one for sure.. Men have not called woman to lead in the church gatherings.. This is a mans authority. I hope this helps. If this really does bother you then I suggest you go to the shepherd of the flock and discuss this with him.

IamAdopted, Christian Forums 53 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: UberLutheran

Quote# 21305

The TRUTH is, there is a lot of debate in the "scientific" community. You see, you just don't KNOW that because you have YOUR head in the sand and refuse to listen to any other point of view.

You can't seriously believe, you just can't, that man is changing the temperature of the EARTH! How dense can you be? You can site the numbers the previous guy just did, the one you said owned me, and look to see where their funding comes from. Do you have any idea how much money al-Gore is making from all this? Do you realize how many of your freedoms are disappearing because we will no longer be able to drive the cars we please, live in the houses we please, live the lifestyle we please?

Good grief, you actually believe that FLORIDA is going to be under water because I don't use low-energy lightbulbs?

And about those Polar Bears on that ice berg that all you libtards are freaking out about: Dude, Polar Bears can SWIM! Just because some news photographer on a crusade takes a photo of some Polar Bears on an ice-flow, and CROPS OUT the fact that the ice-berg is only a few feet away from the main body of ice, doesn't mean that the ice is melting so fast that the poor bears are getting trapped.

Dude, you're a TOOL! Polar Bears can swim! Think about how al-Gore is playing you and owning you!

Edward-217, IMDb 19 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Zoe

Quote# 21307

The Coelocanth (spelling) is an ancient fish...we know this because we carbon dated fossils from it that date back millions of years....oh wait...nevermind...we have live specimens in the ocean now...wow our carbon dating is so accurate!! There are SO many holes in the "fact" that the earth is millions of years old it's ridiculous...the Bible is THE Truth...Believe it.

filmluvr81, IMDb 41 Comments [2/27/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Zoe

Quote# 21175

If God loved everyone we would live in a state of paradise. No death, no unhappiness, no controversy, no crime, no disease, etc. Yet, that is not the world we were born into. Our world includes innumerable evils and unbelievable horrors. This world was built for a struggle – good versus evil; hell versus heaven. If God loved everyone we wouldn’t have the following:

[Among this list are the following but not limited to]

Death, Lung Cancer, AIDS, back pain, high cholesterol, vomiting, alcoholism, old age, rape, lying [kid you not], Nuclear weapons, guns, incest [adam and eve?], Hitler - the Holocaust

[my personal favorite]

TANKS

Fred Phelps, God Hates Fags 34 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21213

There's a reason atheists are the least trusted group in America... they have no reason to hold themselves to any sort of consistent moral standards.

WalkerBurgin, Digg 34 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 21214

[Kieth Ellison being sworn in with the Koran]

We should do what Australia did. He is welcome to live here, work here, become a Congressman but he must go by our way of life. We believe in God as a nation and we swear men in by the Bible. We should not change that. Would they use the bible if we wanted to be sworn into office over in Iran/Iraq. not on your life.
We are Americans not Iranians and we live as Americans. We should not change a tradition for another nation. They are working for us now so they should adapt to our way of life not vice-versa.

[Timewarp: This is not, nor ever was, a nation under god. He has every right to be sworn in with any book he wants, or none at all.]

Even at this time you are a minority. The vast majority of America believes in God and if you had a small amount of history you would know that it was also founded on that believe. Your making yourself look ignorant.

No you could say you use your brain. No offesne but TW is just trying to make it look like America was founded by Apes like his ancestors. And he shouldn't take offense to that as that is what he believes.


ELZ0RR0, Proboards.com Support Board 30 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21217

My fantasy is Christ-like, in that I imagine sometimes that I have the ability to remove liberal thinking ( and liberals) off the planet if I forfeit my life.

It's a good debate weighing one life vs. seriously dangerous liberal ideas that will be the end of this country and beyond. The amount of good that could be done is staggering. In affect, I could save the world.

I'm sure I don't have the courage, but just the thought underscores how seriously off track these people are, and how important it is that liberals be removed from any influence.

chiller, Free Republic 49 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Thomas Paine

Quote# 21221

I wish we could just take all the athiests and put them in camps and ovens, I really do. The Founding Fathers (who all worshiped Jesus) never promised freedom from religion -- they simply wanted to make sure that Evangelical Christians like myself were free to pray in schools. Unfortunately the Supreme Court insists on that and on killing babies.

James Rourke, Time-blog 56 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21222

I don't care if they marry, as long as they don't adopt kids, or show their discusting nature in public. I'm tired of the gay brainwash everywhere I go. That's my stance on that issue.
As for me dying for the cause, well, I am an obsolete man, I have no visible future, perfect cannon folder. A smart man traped in a warped world of brainwashed people who oppose my progress. Death would be a liberator. At least I will die fighting.
And yes, everyone should have good rights, but you also have to take some issues into consideration. I personaly am opposed to lesbians owning dildoes, they made their choice.

Damian, The Resistance Manifesto 30 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21223

I would like to say that if 2 Chronicles 15:13 were still in effect, the world would be a better place, but though such seems so true, He knows better, so be thankful Abe... for, though we must, they wouldn't have put up with your blasphemy for one minute. Why? Because like Leprosy, Cancer and Aids, your rabidity is the vilest kind. It is contagious to all of humanities ignorant and weak. But unlike leprosy, cancer and aids, those who have had, and keep the word of the Lord within, are immune to your murderous mouth.

[NOTE: 2 Chronicles 15:13 says, "and whoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."]

GloryBound, CARM 24 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21224

This is not at all a question of people fearing anything; engaging in homosexuality is simply and objectively evil. It is not even "sex" that takes place. It is just two people engaging in a mutual erotic massage, it is closed to the possibility of creating new life, so it is closed to God. No controversy that I can see.

(3 posts later, same thread)

Even married couples are not to engage in "sex" activity that does not end in the procreative act that can bring new life.

SeenAndUnseen, Christian Forums 35 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21225

Righteous indignation? I once called what has been so self righteously criticized herein as my gmethodology,h as righteous anger, but in introspection, I have been informed that it is more like righteous indignation.

I have been called many names by the atheists, and lately, by many of those who call themselves my brothers and sisters, one in particular which even chose to use foul language when I finally convinced him to use the PM, rather than the public forum when he had a bone to pick with me. One who had previously informed me that he was told in scripture to rebuke me in public, while all along, ignoring the fact that that passage refers to what is to be done in a Church, not in an atheists forum like this.

You think my posts are harsh?

You think my words are unloving?

Many of you think Hell Fire is non existent too, that Satan doesnft exist.

You also think that a loving God wouldnft put anyone in Hell.
Some, even have the nerve to call themselves Christians, who think this sewage.

Brotherc. Sisterc. Sinnerfs tooc. YOU HAVENfT HEARD, OR READ ANYTHING YET!

I define the term gto thinkh as follows; to subject to the processes of logical thought * to think things out.* There is simply no logic associated with thinking, or rather, coming to the conclusion, that there is no Creator.

As to my words being gunloving,h God is Love, and though the atheist and agnostic may think, or think they think they know love, they are professing an ABSOLUTE CONTRADICTION, A BLATANT LIE GENERATED BY THEIRS, WHO IS THE FATHER OF ALL LIARS, for God is love, and without God, there is no love. They may posses care and concern, even lust, but where there is no God, there is no love, and you can argue the point if you wish, but the fact that you choose to argue it, proves your inability to understand, for those who are not of the Spirit CANNOT understand that which is of the Spirit.

As for the brothers and sisters who choose to side with those who are not of the Spirit on this and other matters such as the apostates damnation, and the fact that is impossible to renew him/her to repentance, and state that God can do anything, I can simply say, g I know He can, but just how likely do you think it is that He is going to go against His own word? Will he allow these fools of all fools, to crucify His Son a second time?

GloryBound, CARM 19 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 21226

the atheist who charges God with immorality must have some absolute, universal, and invariant system of morality by which he can judge God.
Christians get their system of justice and morality from God's revelation, but from where does the atheist's sense of morality come?
From his own subjective opinion? Then he has no right to criticize anyone else's system.
From society? Then in Hitler's society ethnic cleansing is "good."
From the innate survival mechanisms of nature? Then whatever humans (part of nature) do must be "good" because their actions are products of their natures and thus "good."
From some moral agent beyond this material universe who has the authority to impose morality on this material universe and its inhabitants?

justinjrussell, CARM 32 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 21227

There can be no justice system without a judge. It's impossible. So either atheists don't want a justice system or they think that the defendant should be able to judge his own guilt.

So do atheists believe that a criminal defendant should be able to judge his own guilt? There's a reason that society doesn't think so even if atheists don't understand why.

Do atheists understand why society doesn't allow each person to make up his own morals? Society does even if atheists don't.

Do atheists understand why lawyers don't advise criminal defendants to be their own lawyers? Society does even if atheists don't.

So there first has to be a judge in order for there to be a justice system. And if there is no judge then there is no justice, period. Therefore since atheists claim that God doesn't exist, then they are claiming there is no justice. So only without God is there no justice because someone has to be able to judge the deeds of humanity in order for there to be justice.

But we do have a judge so there is justice. And who is qualified to judge humanity? Certainly not a human because he is the defendant. So the only justice system has to come from a non-human entity who has shown his power over humanity. Otherwise there is no justice. But I'm sure that those who are judged as guilty don't think that justice exists just like all criminals who don't want to pay for their crimes think.

So since atheists can't admit their own crimes against the ultimate judge who is God, then they are no more in a position to criticize the judge & can no more understand justice than a convicted criminal can and are therefore the last people to criticize the judge, particularly if they claim the judge doesn't exist. But sorry, atheists, even if you argue with the judge, criticize the judge or deny that the judge exists, your punishment will remain even if you're in the dark forever about why.

Carico, CARM 44 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 21228

Women who have abortions should be locked away in an insane asylum because they are obviously insane for having an abortion instead of having the baby and then giving the baby up for adoption because there are thousands of couples who want to adopt babies.

George Yurich, CARM 49 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 21229

Liberal: favors more government control of various enterprises.
Socialist: favors more government control of various enterprises.

Seems pretty clear to me that they are the same thing!!!

Joe Btfsplk, FStDT Boards 42 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Zipperback

Quote# 21233

<a href="http://www.vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/713">Thank God for IED's</a>

"Insane religious nuts", Vidmax 19 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21234

I always considered unveralism to be
Something like Unitarism where they don't
Actually believe in God as well as accept Christ
As their Savior & Lord but they believe in
Wierd stuff from what I heard.

jppt1974, Christian Forums 30 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: UberLutheran

Quote# 21235

[This post has been modified from its original version. It has been formatted to be legible.]

Multiculturalism is going too far and destroying white Christian civilization

I morally can not take it anymore. The media promotes misgenation and whites are becoming a minority in America and Europe. In America we are being replaced with latinos and Asians and in Europe it's Muslims. Tolerant anti-Racists would rather surrender our countries to the Muslims and third world because God forbid we are "racist" which is the most evil thing you can be in the world. I turn on the tv and everywhere you look you see mass race mixing and I just feel that it's wrong and not good. Mixed race children are robbed of an ethnic and cultural identity and I do not think it is responsible or Christian to allow it. Christians are allowing themselves to be manipulated by liberals to accept that all cultures, ethnicities and religions are equal with white Christian civilization and it's just not true.

Diversity has NEVER worked anywhere it has been tried and to have mass immigration from the third world is destroying this country. I complain about it but then I have to listen to these self righteous "Christians" who are sooo moral because they tolerate it. YET, they live in safe all white communities. I would like to see how moral they are when America becomes a Mexican state where crime runs rampant and there is no law enforcement. I am probably going to be banned for expressing my true feelings of having a desire to maintain safe communities for our families with a strong Christian culture without the constant complaints from minority groups blaming whites for all of their problems. I am tired of all the race problems in this country.

The worst thing is we have the ACLU and LA RAZA working with Ted Kennedy to introduce the new senate immigration bill which will probably pass yet nobody says anything because God forbid they are called the most unimaginable word of racist. It's ridiculous. White Christians here better prepare to live in a third world America and live with the fact that you helped destroy the country that conservative Christians built and provided you refugee and now you are going to allow it to accept a pol pot regime. Not to mention European Christians had to fight the Muslims to preserve Europe as a Christian state and now they are just inviting them in and allowing for them to take over (but what do I know because I am just an ignorant racist bigot right?)

Christianson19, Christian Forums 23 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: UberLutheran

Quote# 21236

It is ironic to me that the atheists want freedom from religion when atheism IS a religion. You have to BELIEVE that there is no God, since they cannot prove conclusively that there is no God. They have FAITH in man - their own ability to determine whether or not there is a God - so much faith, in fact, that they are willing to stake their eternal souls, as well as the souls of their children, family, friends, and whomever else they influence away from God, on their own ability to think they know EVERYTHING in the universe. I know I don't know everything, that's why I would rather put my faith in an awesome, holy God than in flawed, fallible, imperfect man. BTW, No Quarter, Darwin, a flawed, fallible, imperfect man, believed that there were "Favoured Races" - the light skinned ones - which had evolved further away from dark-skinned apes - and the Hitler's Nazi slaughter of the Jews was based on the principles of evolution, as was Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge, and Joseph Stalin's regime.

lovebassethounds, WRAL.com 41 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: amyg113

Quote# 21237

The modernist attack on religion was based on the victory of science, and particularly of neo-Darwinism. Yet science was open to the same challenge as religion; it could explain only half the world. The scientists, or some of them, sneered at religion for being unable to explain the developments of nature. Yet science itself was unable to produce a science-based morality for society. Marxism attempted to create a scientific social order that ended in monstrous and bloodthirsty tyranny. Social Darwinism either meant eugenics and the slaughter of babies who were not thought fit to survive, or it meant nothing. The Social Darwinism of George Bernard Shaw, or indeed that of Adolf Hitler, has been rejected by mankind.

William Rees-Mogg, The Times of London 21 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Doctor Whom

Quote# 21238

What amazes me about moderns is the widespread ignorance of philosophy among them. Don't schools do philosophy anymore?

A foundation stone for my Christian faith is my acceptance of the First Cause argument put together with Pascal's Wager. From there it is but a short step to my Catholicism.

Dave Livingston, TimesOnline (Comments Section) 42 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Doctor Whom

Quote# 21239

Don't expect the "mainstream" media to notice the biting irony here: The people they like to portray as the champions of free inquiry and scientific literacy are the very ones trying to dumb-down science curricula in order to suppress information they find uncomfortable. Fortunately, Americans still have the freedom to investigate the truth for themselves, which is why the Darwinists' current strategy will be such a loser over the long term. Trying to stamp out the discussion of ideas you don't like is a sign of insecurity, and thoughtful people will eventually see through such tactics.

John West, Evolution News & Views 34 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21240

Well, if humans came from apes then we should be backward compatible. You can made a dog with a wolf and a wolf with a dog. You can't mate a human with an ape or any of their genus i.e., monkies, chimps, orangutans, etc.

Mankind did not evolve from monkeys or apes.

TonyN, Internet Infidels Discussion Board 53 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: RBH

Quote# 21243

[You don't use a seatbelt?]

No, I don't.

Even if I had a seatbelt on I could still be killed.

It's just another way for the government to make money.

I will die when God says so, not because I have a little belt over my shoulder.

raven55, Livejournal 100 Comments [2/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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