Quote# 21111

A Chicago man was denied bond Monday on charges of bludgeoning and stabbing his wife, sister-in-law and mother-in-law to death. Authorities said he confessed to the killings.

Police said Daryoush Ebrahimi became enraged at his relatives because he felt "disrespected," and killed them by bludgeoning them with a 3-pound maul hammer and stabbing them repeatedly with a 12-inch knife.

Ebrahimi, 55, is charged with three counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of his wife, Karmin Khooshabeh, 44; her sister, Karolin Khooshabeh, 40; and their mother, Ileshvah Eyvazimooshabad, 60.

“He immediately admitted to members of the Chicago Police Department that he had killed all three of the victims, stating that the women had disrespected him and told him that he was not a man,” said Assistant State’s Attorney Sanju Oommen.

[...]

According to friends, Ebrahimi and his family fled Iran because of the threat of persecution against Christians.

Daryoush Ebrahimi, cbs2chicago 36 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jacob

Quote# 21113

If you are not a Christian and do not convert in the future, then God does NOT love you. God does NOT forgive you or pardon you. This is an important reality for non-Christians to come to grips with. So please, respond to the message of the Bible and convert.


Ceridwen, Christian Forums 58 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremy PC

Quote# 21114

And I have your back hardcore. I've been throwing their "logic" back in their faces for a couple of days now. Half of them aren't even talking on here anymore lol. All it takes is Scripture. Luke 21:14-15 "But make up your ;mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict."

Jarad Christian, Facebook 23 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremiah

Quote# 21115

the hypocrisy of the fascist liberals is indicative of their cowardice and impotence. they most often choose to ignore the facts, and will do anything to perpetuate their delusions, as they lack the courage and fortitude to simply deal with the unpleasant reality. when confronted with incontravertable evidence of their error, these weak-minded individuals immediately launch into a vicious attack on whomever has exposed that error. when they fail to refute the obvious truths which normal people can see as such, they will become hysterical, resorting to vulgarity and childish name-calling, and when they fail to silence their opponents it is not uncommon for them to become violent. it demonstrates the hollowness of their arguments, and a basic flaw in their character. they are arrogant, selfish, and spoiled, as has already been well established.

Jehane, Fstdt! Comments 24 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21122

i wondered how long it would be before some heretic started harping on how Jesus never specifically mentioned homosexualism, it's one of the falsehoods they try to fob off on us as some sort of endorsement of that perversion. in fact, Jesus was very clear that not one letter or penstroke of the Law would change, and that includes the Law against homosexual behaviour. there are numerous other examples where He condemns all such abominations. i recommend you not attempt to instruct me in what you yourself do not understand.

Jehane, FSTDT Comments 37 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21123

The leading imam in Manchester, confirms that he thinks the execution of sexually active gay men is justified, the rights group Outrage reported. Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque confirmed his views in a conversation to John Casson, a local psychotherapist. Casson said: "I asked him if the execution of gay Muslims in Iran and Iraq was an acceptable punishment in Sharia law, or the result of culture, not religion. "He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts." "I asked him what would be the British Muslim view? He repeated that in an Islamic state these punishments were justified. They might result in the deaths of thousands but if this deterred millions from having sex, and spreading disease, then it was worthwhile to protect the wider community." "I checked again that this was not a matter of tradition, culture or local prejudice. 'No,' he said, 'It is part of the central tenets of Islam: that sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran and the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had stated that these punishments were due to such behaviours.'" Gay man rights campaigner Peter Tatchell said, "It is disturbing that some British imams are endorsing the execution of gay and lesbian Muslims. "Imam Arshad Misbahi's homophobic attitudes give comfort and succor to queer-bashers. They encourage conflict and disharmony between Manchester's large gay and Muslim communities. "Muslim and gay people know the pain of prejudice and discrimination. We should be working together to challenge homophobia and Islamophobia. I hope liberal Muslims will speak out in defense of the human rights of lesbians and gay men," said Tatchell. Adnan Ali, founder of the British branch of al-Fatiha, an organisation for gay and lesbian Muslims, told Gay.com that "a person with such an obsession about execution of human beings is not even entitled to be addressed as Imam." "Islam is a very tolerant religion and celebrates the human diversity in its core message," Ali said. "The holy book Qur'an does not mention anywhere about the execution or killing of human beings on the basis of their sexuality. What surprises is this obsession of the Islamic clerics to killing and execution. Why? What about dialogue? Discussion? "Arshad Misbahi's comparison of same-sex relation to adultery is nothing but ignorant and utterly irresponsible rhetoric, manifesting the wrong teachings of Islam. The media should . . . not take it for granted as the general view of the Muslim community all over."

Arshad Misbahi, GCN News Update 14 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21126

Dear Kalamazoo,

Thanks for bringing out that tired old argument. You and other gay-worshipers always fall back on the erroneous belief that anyone who refuses to celebrate the diseased behavior of homosexuals is automatically motivated by "fear and hatred." I'm sure that's certainly true of some people, but I would venture that many heterosexuals are like me: Honest enough to admit that they are repulsed by deviant sexual practices because they find those practices intrinsically, innately, and empirically disgusting.



How interesting that you immediately went for the ad hominem attack rather than try to debate the issue itself. So disappointingly typical and predictable. No one could possibly think differently from you unless there was something "wrong" with them as people, right?



Since your last argument was weak, don't forget good ol' Plan B, where you insinuate that I'm only pretending to be disgusted by homosexuality because I secretly AM homosexual. That's a sure-fire winner too!



Also, since there are "too many people in this country" who think like me, what would you propose? Re-education camps? Compulsory sensitivity training? Exile? Or perhaps you have a "final solution" in mind for us. Please! Between the two of us, it's obvious which person has "been taught to believe" a silly lie.



Oh, uh, that's YOU, by the way.

Rozetta, Ifilm 36 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

Quote# 21128

To answer your last post; As a geocentrist I don't attribute the Solar System's activity to gravity; first because gravity just can't explain it, and secondly because as a Christian I believe that God set the entire Solar System in the order he wanted it in.
"When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?" -- Psalms 8:3-4
There are many other natural explanations (i.e. Electric Universe...); read some of the sites I linked to in my first post....they deal with that a bit

NarrowPathPilgrim, Christian Forums 28 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21129

No Debating

Teens-4-Christ is not a 'debate' site. You will not change our minds, do not try. A quick read of Romans 1 will show that those who debate are in the company of adulterers, sodomites and murderers. Therefore, debating will not be allowed.

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 51 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Easy Lover

Quote# 21131

[Me thinks Brent has his feelings hurt]

Is this a violation of the [christian forum] rules?


Here is the scenario -

There are two CF members, one of those members is also a member of another forum, and that member proceeds to insult the other member on the other forum. Example: copying and pasting a CF post of that member, and flaming the person (misquoting, smearing their character, etc.) on the other forum. Is this acceptable conduct? To what extent do CF rules govern the conduct of CF members on non-CF web sites?

Regards,
Brent

[and]

The problem centers around conduct of various CF members at FSTDT.com, which is an anti-Fundamentalist web site. Atheists and Liberals from CF frequently copy-and-paste threads posted by Fundamentalists, and proceed to bash the member who posted it.


B®ent, Christian Forum 99 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Shelly

Quote# 21141

[On atheists.]

Antichrists.

They say they don't believe in any god or gods or deities and then obsessively whine,piss and moan,bitch and deride Christ and Christians and their bible.

To be that obsessed with Christians and their God and bible makes you stupid atheists a HATE GROUP!

You are CRAZY to sit here and spend all of your time obsessing over a God which you claim doesn't even exist in the first place.And the fact that you have singled out Christians proves that you are a HATE GROUP!

You are Satanists and Antichrists but don't even know it.

Never once in have I ever heard one of you ridiculous FAGZ whine,piss or moan about Wicca,Hinduism,Buddhism,I slam or New Age mumbo jumbo!

YOU ARE ALL FULL OF SHIT!

FUCK OFF you fuckin SATANIC dickholes!!!

Eternal damnation = your just reward, Urban Dictionary 83 Comments [2/23/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 21047

I'm not getting tested for anything at this point. My boyfriend and I have both prayed seprately and together, asking God to free us from any pregnancy right now. If I were to take a pregnancy test, I would be doubting God and that to me is wrong.

IwishIknew, Faith Community Network 65 Comments [2/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21055

Enough is Enough!

Well that's about all the hate I can stand to deal with. I actually feel numb after doing this section of my site. And also saddened because of how all these people think exactly the same. What do all these sites have in common? [Sites similar to Fstdt.]

1) They all are fighting what they claim does not exist.
2) 95% of them imply such extreme hate for all Christians that refuse to think like them, they either "imply" to kill them, or actually come out and say it.
3) Over 90% of their sites and forums are dedicated to this cause of fighting things they cannot see (spooky).
4) They believe cussing makes you a more manly person, even though some of them are girly men (as Arnold S. would call them).
5) They all claim they are the smartest in the world, and anyone who can't see this are stupid.
6) They call themselves free-thinkers. But only if you think as they do.
7) They all claim there is no God because evolution proves it. But yet science itself cannot prove God either way. So some how they have a special knowledge that goes beyond science (sounds like foil cap time).
8) They claim that the Christian past is the only past that has death and murder in it. When their past of what they believe connects to certain types like Hitler.
9) They all put up special sections on their websites and forums showing how every can join them in their fight against something they cannot see, and claim does not exist. So I wonder, do they spend their time thinking about how to fight thin air?
10) All of the websites promote degrading of anyone who would dare think differently they they do. Having to resort to this shows how weak their argument really is.
11) They all say that Christians are all liars, and what they believe are myths. As if they have cornered the idea of what truth is. As if a lie is only something they disagree with. And truth is what they agree with.
12) They all mock God through words, or graphics.
13) They all have some sort of plans of attack on the Christian faith.
14) They all mis-quote past history in one form or another. And call you a liar if you point it out.
15) etc... (never ending).



Issac, YEC 41 Comments [2/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 21056

[On atheists]

You can live however you want, you can saarch for answers, and search, and search, or accept that there is possibly no earthly reason to answer it. I feel bad for you, a life of questions missing their answers. A lifetime of no faith, no reason, no thought process. A life of denial, and refuting, but never giving a solution. I suggest you go to church, you don't need to keep going, but give er another try, it helps even if you don't neccessarily believe, it may do wonders for you, open up some doors.

[...]

I pity those without faith, nothing wrong with that, it's called empathy.

Zach Eineman, Myspace 47 Comments [2/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sierra

Quote# 21063

The vast majority of Christian forums even are taken over by atheist who have infiltrated the ranks of Christianity...nothing new. Their Networking system has reached far and wide and they have power and power to manipulate law. These forums are run like Casinos in the sense that circular arguments are tolerated, but, any discussion that could lead to the conviction of a soul to Christ will be deleted at an instant. Christians that know their faith and can defend it from criticism are considered no different then Card-counters in a Casino and removed from the forum at once. Anyone who disagrees with Darwin is a threat to the Darwinian New World Order (i.e., Social Darwinism).

Satan is the being behind this and he wants to increase unbelief so that he can dominate a person who will become the AntiChrist. The way is being pathed right now and evolution is the philosophy that is being heavily pushed in Christianity right now.

Origen, Evolution Fariytale Forum 33 Comments [2/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21065

The Indians understand that it was not the words found in the Holy Bible that took their lives away from them. They know that it was not all white men that hated them. They know that the theory of evolution and the humanistic values that come natural through hate had turned many a white man into a racist. They saw the Indian has unevolved and too stupid to continue living. So the Indians lost more than their lands, their culture, their faith, and their human rights--indeed, they lost their very souls. The image and likeness of God in their race was taken right out of them, and thats by and large the main reason why there is so much alcoholism and drug abuse on Indian communities today.

Origen, Evolution Fariytale Forum 33 Comments [2/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21068

Deprogramming the Next Generation

Perhaps the most serious threat to our future is the demasculinisation of the American male. [...]

My solutions include (but are not limited to):

1.) Mandatory National Service;

Every able-bodied male, beginning at the age of sixteen, should be required to keep an automatic rifle and be trained to properly operate the weapon. This Militia service would teach the young men discipline, Nationalism, and respect towards Authority. Their militia service should continue (for the defense of our Nation) until their 55th birthday.

2.) Incentives for mothers to leave the workforce;

Mothers in the workforce is a fundamentally bad idea. The primary duty of a wife and mother is to care for her children and manage the household. As such, it would be greatly beneficial for the State to provide monetary/tax incentives, by whatever means necessary, to encourage mothers to leave behind the workforce and return to their proper place.

3.) Restructuring of the public educational system;

The public education system must be torn down and rebuilt from the ground upward. First and foremost, the primary role of public schools should be to prepare young men for the workforce, and the young women for marriage and motherhood. Secondly, the school must instill discipline, morality, and National pride into every child. Teachers who hate America (or teachers who hate men, for that matter) must be fired and properly replaced. Funding should be dramatically cut, in order to encourage schools to "get back to basics." Math, Science (including Intelligent Design), Bible, English are the essentials for both sexes. For the young ladies, home ec ought to be an additional requirement for graduation; whereas gun safety would be a prerequisite for the young men. Any further education is the responsibility of parents.

Brent, Christian Forums 72 Comments [2/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21081

(Story on how sex abuse victims' group is turning its attention to abuse cases in Baptist churches)

One SNAP member, Debbie Vasquez, said she was raped by a Southern Baptist minister in Texas when she was 15 years old.

Now 48, Vasquez filed a lawsuit last year against the pastor, the Rev. Dale "Dickie" Amyx and his current church, Bolivar Baptist in Sanger, Texas, about 45 miles north of Dallas. She claims the church knew, or should have known, about Amyx's past.

Vasquez says she was raped when Amyx was a minister at the now-defunct Calvary Baptist Church in Lewisville, another town north of Dallas.

When she became pregnant with Amyx's child at age 18, church leaders forced her to go before the congregation and ask forgiveness as an unwed mother. But the congregation was never told it was Amyx's baby.

The lawsuit claims Calvary Baptist helped Amyx get another job at a church in Arizona.

News story, CNN news 38 Comments [2/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21083

Zilla Huma Usman, the minister for social welfare in Punjab province and an ally of President Pervez Musharraf, was killed as she was about to deliver a speech to dozens of party activists, by a "fanatic", who believed that she was dressed inappropriately and that women should not be involved in politics, officials said today.

Ms Usman, 35, was wearing the shalwar kameez worn by many professional women in Pakistan, but did not cover her head. [...]

Mr Sarwar appeared relaxed and calm when he told a television channel that he had carried out God’s order to kill women who sinned. “I have no regrets. I just obeyed Allah’s commandment,” he said, adding that Islam did not allow women to hold positions of leadership. “I will kill all those women who do not follow the right path, if I am freed again,” he said.

n/a, The Australian 23 Comments [2/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 20994

Amen!!! I'm a KJV only man myself and i concur with this thread.

Rupert Murdoch is heavily involed in the publishing of the NIV Perversion, need I say anymore on the matter.

Oh BTW, Try to find 1 John 5:7 in the modern versions. The trinity of the God Head has been completely omitted. Hmm, wonder why they would take that most important verse out. Rolling Eyes

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7)

Triumph aka David J. Stewart, The Resistance Manifesto 35 Comments [2/21/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 20996

-Getting women to go to work was not a positive thing for women right, as many women love to believe. I is a scam by to illuminati to tax the other 50% of society.

-Getting women to leave the house is made so that they no longer have kids staying at home, instead children are being teacher in government sponsored mind control camps we call schools. [...]

-women are given this false idea of independance and motivated to go out on there own. What do we have? break up of society! I see many single parents and more and more divorce. Why? Because we are fooled into seeking more and better and loose what we already had. Divorces should not happen. People had set up good structures in place and once the *family unit* is divided, we have easily manipulable host. divide and conquer! A household divided amongst itsefl cannot stand!


the destruction of families and abuse of women is a great problem in our fast pace hell society and it has illuminati manipulation written all over it!

Azrael, The Resistance Manifesto 40 Comments [2/21/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 20997

The Anti-Defamation League is calling on state Rep. Ben Bridges to apologize for a memo distributed under his name that says the teaching of evolution should be banned in public schools because it is a religious deception stemming from an ancient Jewish sect.

Bridges (R-Cleveland) said he is considering filing legislation this year to remove evolution from Georgia's public schools, but he denies having anything to do with the memo.

One of his constituents, however, said he wrote the memo with Bridges' approval before it recently was distributed to lawmakers in several states, including Texas, California, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania and Ohio.

"Indisputable evidence — long hidden but now available to everyone — demonstrates conclusively that so-called 'secular evolution science' is the Big-Bang 15-billion-year alternate 'creation scenario' of the Pharisee Religion," says the memo, which has Bridges' name on it. "This scenario is derived concept-for-concept from Rabbinic writings in the mystic 'holy book' Kabbala dating back at least two millennia."

Rep. Ben Bridges, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution 23 Comments [2/21/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: McCulloch

Quote# 21005

No one said it was a perfect language. He said it was God's langugage. I believe it is too.

I believe Adam spoke english, God spoke english, and everyone's language was confused at the Tower of Bable. Only when God's complete revelation comes to man do we come back to his holy language again.

Do I have any proof for this? Nope. Does it really matter? Nope.

Lukasaurus, kjbchurch 81 Comments [2/21/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Traitor1

Quote# 21014

(Not a fundie, but a flake who built a magic orgonite powered sky cleaning machine)

My City has a population of over 255,000,000, and it has taken only 3 people to improve our local environment. By eliminating persistent aircraft trails, and increasing the available sunlight, our Tourist industry has increased as a result. And crime rates have dropped as a consequence.

EllaMacfrell, YouTube 31 Comments [2/21/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

Quote# 21015

[In response to Kelly Osbourne's announcement that a member of her family is HIV positive]

What you sow, you shall also reap. Seems death has come knocking sooner, just like Anna Nicole and soon to be Britney if she doesnt change her ways. Praise God from whom all blessings flow. Pray for us sinners here below, AMEN.

Wayne (post #8), TVSquad 32 Comments [2/21/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Dan