Quote# 22164

[speaking of things Jesus supposedly did--one member asked for proof outside the bible]

But it has been documented by others not just the bible.

[member responds: Sources please.]

I already produced some evidence.

But mainly i would except[sic] the witnesses that wrote the bible.

angryamerican, hannity 23 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22166

[I escaped from the christian cult a long time ago.]
You can serve all the gods you wish. We serve The God who sent His Son to pay the penalty we could not pay. If you choose not to accept what He has provided, so be it. You too will, Burn baby, Burn! It is your choice, and you can blame no one other the one who made your decision; you, yourself.

Is truth what you wished to hear, or should I have padded it a bit?

Glorybound, CARM 27 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22168

Let's hope that the Arabic specialists get the message out to the Arabic world that Arabic and Islamic homosexuals are not welcome in the Armed Forces of the US of A.

joe_christian, Liberty news forum 24 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22169

You're absolutely right. I'm sick of the PC police who refuse to accept the facts.

The homosexuals in this country hae been shoving homosexualism down our throat for the past 30 years. I for one am sick of it. When I was in medical school, a doctor could refuse a *** treatment or even mistreat him on purpose and not receive any rebuke.

Nowdays, of course, you can still do it, but if you ever mention it to anyone, you'll be called a bigot. Sorry buddy, I just have morals.

RobertSummersMD, hannity 67 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22170

most libs are really just secular humanists in disguise who openly subscribe to the theory that rational men originally evolved from sub-human wild animals in Africa which may be said to have closely resembled modern uncaged monkeys howling over a spoiled banana.

Perhaps they are in a latent stage of post-Christian regression and are devolving into that natural state from which they profess to have originated from.

joe_christian, Liberty news forum 20 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22173

["As a Christian Mental Health practitioner," what is it, exactly? ]

The application of biblical principles of spiritual knowledge of health and salvation to one's own mental health and other mental health systems.

Any Christian counseling based on scripture and the word of God is a form of Christian Mental Health activity as long as it is more theological than psychological.

[Joe, I would SERIOUSLY urge you not to go around playing in people heads without some real, authentic training.]

Why don't you seriously urge sinful secular psychologists and psychiatrists to stop practicing their evil sorcery (psychotropic pharmacology) on Christian kids in the public schools without real, authentic and proper Christian training?

[You can do ENORMOUS, lifelong damage to someone. And that's especially true of children. ]

What do you think the Christ-killing psychobabblers and psychiatric drug pushers are doing to children in US public schools - educating students?

[I really think this is something you really need to reconsider. What you're apparently doing is downright dangerous. ]

Secular psychos and drug pushers in US public schools are a lot more "downright dangerous" to Christian kiddies than an old man like me could ever be.

I guess you have gotten used to non-Christians attacking Christians and have never read anything negative about Christ-killing secular humanists practicing psychopharmacology on poor defenseless and harmless Christian students in US public schools.

joe_christian, Liberty news forum 33 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22174

Last night, during the TalkProphecy.com radio show, I was discussing all the heat that is being applied to Marine Gen. Peter Pace to apologize for calling homosexuality immoral by likening it to adultery. As I did so, someone filed a complaint against our radio show for engaging in hate speech.

That's right, Christians! We were accused of HATE SPEECH because, I suppose, I said that General Pace shouldn't HAVE to apologize to anyone! That would be because homosexuality, whether those who practice it choose to consider it a sin or not, is DEFINITELY adultery at the very least! That would be because the God-ordained institution of marriage defines it as a union between a man and a woman and we are not to engage in sexual acts outside of marriage. When we do, it is considered adultery in the eyes of God. Adultery is a sin and, as such, immoral. Does that mean that General Pace HATES or I HATE anyone? If it does, then all those who are practicing homosexuality must hate us as well. Think about it!

If the homosexual community doesn't like my Christian views, isn't that an act of HATE using their standards as a tool of measurement? Certainly! If it is an immoral act of hate for me to call homosexuality a sin, it is likewise an immoral act of hate for them to be offended by my religious beliefs.

Those who are quickest to cry foul when someone expresses a view other than their own need to take a page out of their own playbook and be tolerant of others! Logic would dictate that this is the fair and appropriate response, but that's not how it works! Far from it!

Michael G. Mickey, Rapture Alert 31 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22175

<<In response to the question: "If you could have one prayer/wish granted from God, what would it be?">> (World peace, or no more children dying of preventable disease maybe?)

I would ask for a hug and to look upon His face so I can see Him smile.

Of course, I will be able to do this one day but I would like to have a hug today from Him.


KarrieTex, Christian Forums 36 Comments [3/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremy PC

Quote# 22096

The rapid spread of humanism in our country is due in large part to the humanist indoctrination our children receive in the public school system. This infusion of humanist propaganda is well known in our colleges and universities, but actually starts well before then, in the elementary schools.

In the interest of "diversity" and "tolerance", our elementary students are being forced to study non-Christian religions such as Islam.

As our children grow older, and start to learn about science, they are taught that all life and all creation is just a wonderful accident.

Let me take a moment to discuss the teaching of the theory of evolution. According to the scientific method (by which all theories are proved), evolution cannot even be called a theory. Evolution has not been observed, and therefore cannot truly be called more than a hypothesis. However, if you open any science textbook, you will see that evolution is referred to as a FACT!!

As your children graduate from High School and move on to college, the humanist brainwashing intensifies.

From elementary school through post-graduate studies, our children are taught that there is no God, all creation is a pleasant accident, there is no right or wrong, and to say otherwise is intolerant and divisive. You may not share the gospel with your friends, but we will teach you to meditate in the manner of the eastern religions.

CM, Contender Ministries 31 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22097

And it is commonsense that the world is a more dangerous place than it was in the past. The evidence is so overwhelming that when immorality goes up so does consequences from go up! Sexual immorality the rise in disease statistics go up broken homes, abuse,etc!... Drug use? muder death and despair go up! etc... etc...etc.... who do you think you are kidding? look at the old west, where law was scarce, why do you think people carried guns on there sides, in those places, they were dangerous!!!!!! duh!!!! Why do you think africa and other sexualy immoral areas are ridden with aids and other diseases!!!! It not even worth the argument with you!!!! and why do you guys keep re writting everything a person posts that doesnt agree with you, do think you are belittling someone this way, "oh look at what you have wrote, now let me show you how you are in error", you arent fooling anyone!!!!! anything ive posted that people can see for themselves, or they can fall for your propaganda, but a wise person would check it out, But you arent honest yourselves, because if you wee realy trying to be SCIENTISTS you would consider all the evidence!

Wakeup Sleeper, Free Republic 13 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22098

[Make sure that miracles are faith claims and not natural claims, that way you can defend it as faith and nobody can bust you with evidence.]

AV1611VET responds:
There isn't a "scientist" alive that can bust ME with "evidence".

Like I say, they can post all their graphs, charts, websites, and experiments all they want, and it's water off a duck's back to me.

AV1611VET, Christian Forums 25 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22099

I have made a large list of scientific evidence to a global flood even before this list, that is understood by all of science, and you have not been able to refute any of it. nor can you. so dont even try because ive heard all the adhock junk before from others before you and heard the no evidence hypotheticals from evolutionists. Theres a big difference from real evidence and scientific logic as opposed hypothetical adhock stories, " o you creation scientists say this and you have evidence? well hears my NO EVIDENCE hypothetical story Ill tell you to explain it away. Hypotheticals with no evidence whatsoever from evolutionists.

fossils have usualy to be buried rapidly

mass graves of fossils are usualy what is found

coal that is millions of years old according to the evo hype/propaganda there shouldnt be any c 14 in it but guess what there is. should have decayed to nitrogen long ago. they have the roughly same percentages in them no matter what layer .26 pmc from eocine .21 from the cretaceous .27 from the pennsylvanian there is little variance whatsoever in the levels of c 14 in the geological record

Planation surfaces are abundant on all continents, planation surfaces are not being formed today. Erosion does not explain planantion so dont go there. global flooding explains this very well.

marine fossils in the mountains

clearly visible sediments on everest

whale fossils found high above sea levels

many ancient peoples wrote of a global flood in which eight people survived the odds of this being a coincodence is quite a stretch.

If you study population growths it is consistant to the population today from arond 4300-4500 years ago.

glaciers and glacier erosion

catastrophic plate tectonics
any lurkers out there as the evolutionists like to call you, well you can all look it up for yourselves, if you are honest with wanting to know the truth look at ALL of the evidence WILLINGLY!!!!


huge sandstones deposits and on and on and on and on!!!!


Wakeup Sleeper, Free Republic 15 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22101

Evidence is there you have to be HONEST enough!!!!

The Bible is history in itself there are thousands of finds that give credit to the bible and none to discredit it!

The bible was written not all at once it started a few thousand years ago in the old testament writings and then ended shortly after Christ, do you realy think these records were kept and things recorded for thousands of years and it ended just after Christ and then there was an out break of Christianity, This is nowhere in history of any belief to be done. And to this day it is known everywhere. Painstakingly writings and events kept highly accurate and they just end after Christ and then there is an outbreak of Christianity? Is there any document written like the text of the bible, you know there is not!

Also it is a known fact that people GENERALY lived in a more moral disciplined society Christian or not, and today it is more disregarded and what are the results we have higher divorce, abortion, abuse, ever increasing disease, disfunctional households to the nth degree, crime is higher than ever, disturbing lifestyles, violence as entertainment, sexual perversion as entertainment, men who have no integrity etc...etc...

Just as John said we know that antichrist comes even now there are many antichrists this is how we know we are in the last hour!

Wakeup Sleeper, Free Republic 13 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22102

People of the West of the Pope, are all inherently worshipping the devil, they have no consciousness of Allah, Exalted is He! and rely on the Pope to continue with this order of injustices and suffering in the world and lies and hatred of the truth. If I was to grip one person in the world for the suffering and injustices in the world, I get the Pope.

It is only the devil worshippers who want to continue for the world to suffer, to keep people away from truth and to continue worshipping the devil in their lives.


Be not of those who promote vanity, pride, hatred, lust, envy, arrogance, malice and greed- the devil worshippers.

kashif786, C4 Forums 26 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22105

From supersport's Theory of Creation thread (OP worthy of an FSTDT quote itself ==> http://www.christiandiscussionforums.org/v/showpost.php?p=1092385&postcount=1:)

We have this incredibly error-ridden post from supersport, showing his incredible ignorance of simple biology:

[Interesting claim, now support it. No links, no cut and paste, you explain it..]

supersport responds:
I actually can support it although it's a good topic for a new thread....but all you have to do is use your common sense.....cells have tiny parts called genes....those genes have tiny parts called nucleus...the nucleus breaks down into smaller parts...smaller parts break down into atoms...atoms break down into subatomic particals...subatomic particles break down even further. Try dividing a subatomic particle by 1 million.....how big do you think that part will be? Life is not a machine, wataru because all the tiny parts in the body work together as a whole unit.



supersport, CARM 32 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22106

Sandy : Homosexuality/sodomy is disgusting

Rushdog : Even if you weren't a religious person, and all you really believed in was science, and medicine, it's easy to figure out that there is something wrong with that lifestyle. Especially for men. I mean, why else would gay men be more succeptible to HIV, Hepititis, and other diseases, as opposed to straight men? You can be a straight guy, and get HIV, but it's alot less likely. To me, there has to be a reason for this. I don't think it's coincidental.


Sandy and Rushdog, American Idol Chat 24 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22112

I believe in demon possessions and they are not rare, it's just that we've gotten used to practically everyone being possessed.

Mike Bladder 8.0, Myspace 30 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22113

The Bombardier Beetle

If there is any creature on Earth that could not possibly have evolved, that creature is the bombardier beetle. It needed God to create it with all its systems fully functional. Evolutionary theory has big problems when attempting to explain the existence and complexity of the bombardier beetle.
Each stage in the evolution of its special chemicals would have wed to its destruction. This one-half inch insect mixes chemicals which violently react to produce something similar to an explosion. How could the bombardier beetle have evolved this means of defense without killing itself in the process? This problem has the members of the evolutionary establishment scratching their heads. Evolutionary theory says that you do not evolve something until you know you need it. In other words a new enzyme or chemical or organ or fin or beak or bone will not evolve until the creature realizes it needs the new improvement.
The bombardier beetle would not have known it needed a mechanism to prevent these chemicals from blowing it up until it mixed the chemicals and blew itself up. Naturally, it could not evolve after it was dead, so how did it get here? The evolutionists say, "We don't know."

Summerbird, Creation Theory 30 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22114

phobia is a psychological term denoting irrational fear. Which is exactly why it's being used by homosexual activists in their self-admitted propaganda campaign, as one of the two labels they use to create cognitive dissonance. The other term is "homohatred", which we also see lobbed onto cyber discussion boards and other media with reckless and gleeful abandon.

That's how propaganda works.

christdependent, CARM 18 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22115

We apparently insist on thinking for ourselves on occasion, thus making us "evil". The Old Testament defines knowledge and free thought as "evil", thus making the seeking of knowledge a sin.

Jonathan Boyd, Creation Theory 30 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22117

You define "good" incorrectly. God's standards in the Old Testament make it clear that he demands mindless obedience and loyalty from us, not "good" behaviour.

Jonathan Boyd, Creation Theory 36 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22120

i thought allah was a moon god, hence he is no such thing. something the false prophet muhammid(hell is upon him) just jump on to suit his own evil desires. Man that guy shouldnt of gotten drunk so much. He could of picked another false god that was more believable to challange us. lol

darknights, CARM 21 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22121

Darwin was the figment of an overzealous fools imagination who had had just a little too much to drink, too. Did you know that?

GloryBound, CARM 40 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 22122

Beware of Planned Parenthood. They give out low dose birth control for free, with the knowledge that it will fail, so that women and young girls will have to come to them for an abortion. Planned Parenthood makes a lot of money from abortions. It is a well known fact, that the woman who started Planned Parenthood was a close friend to Hitler. Her goal was to keep minority women from giving birth.PP spreads lies about CPC&#65533;fs because CPC&#65533;fs cut in to the profit thay make from destroying children.

Ann, Palm Beach Post 39 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 22123

ANYONE WHO IS PRO-CHOICE BABY-KILLER WILL BE GREETED IN THE AFTERLIFE BY 1000 BABY ANGEL FETUSES WHO WILL CAST YOUR SOUL INTO HELL!!! IT WILL LOOK LIKE THE MOVIE THE BIRDS. GOD PLEASE GIVE US ANOTHER ERIC RUDOLPH BOMBER WHO WILL BRING DOWN EVERY BABY KILLING FACTORY IN AMERICA LIKE THE WALLS OF JERICHO !!!

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Archie Mcgillicutty, Palm Beach Post 92 Comments [3/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen