Quote# 23333

[Evolution]'s a naturalistic a priori assumption and it has no real basis in science. It certainly is not answer for the historical content of the Scriptures.

Mark Kennedy, Christian Forums 19 Comments [4/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Øyvind

Quote# 23335

Lance Erickson’s letter (4/3) stated that “science welcomes debates of controversial ideas that are supported by well-reasoned, objective data.”

In May 2005, the Kansas State Board of Education held hearings in Topeka to do just that.

Some of what was discussed: DNA, the complexity of the human cell, experimental evolution, amino acids, pre-biotic soup, RNA, PNA, pre-cellular life, direct panspermia, materialistic naturalism, operational science vs. historical science, the Y chromosome, SRY gene, bacterial flagellum and many, many other scientific areas that relate to the study of evolution.

What happened was that every single one of the pro-evolution scientists boycotted the hearings. Why?

Those scientists did not welcome debate on the controversial idea of evolution. They are totally closed-minded on this subject, and accept evolution on the basis of faith, not science.

Brian Barkley, The Kansas City Star 27 Comments [4/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 23340

A few posts in this thread have been edited or deleted. Several books have been mentioned that we are not familiar with, and though they may not be bad books, we can not allow them to be promoted.

Hope ya'll understand!

Mrs. Kellie, Teens-4-Christ 47 Comments [4/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Khaine

Quote# 23341

Here in America, we live in a climate of moral decay. What is the cause of this? It is called "anime". Anime is a perverse, evil, insiduous form of animation from the dark land of Japan, and is corrupting America's youth at unprecedented rates. Here are a few examples of anime which are circulating on the Internet and may very well be in your home:

1) Ah My Goddess: A sick and disgusting show which causes children under the age of 18 to think they are capable of love. [Emphasis Added] The main female character is clearly under 18, and is forced into a romantic relationship by an older man who "wishes" for her to be his girlfriend forever. He even KISSES her, and she appears NAKED. That poor girl must be so confused.

2) Love Hina: I'm not even going to mention the unspeakable, disgusting, pedophilic, pornograhpic events which transpire during this show, but suffice it to say, groups of young men on Love Hina-fueled rampages are raping children at a level unheard of since the 60s.

If you are a parent or a decent human being, I urge you to sign this petition to ban all forms of anime in the United States. Anyone who is found in possesion of anime should be arrested and jailed for an exhorbant period of time. Anime is a dark scourge upon our beautiful nation, and we don't need this Japanese filth corrupting the hearts of the children.

As a resonsible Christian, I demand to see this garbage removed from our nation. Please sign this petition and send it to George Bush, your Congressman, and the makers/distributors of anime filth and depravity.

Denis Fuller, Lets Save America 84 Comments [4/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Osiris

Quote# 23342

Jesus does love you, but that won’t save you from the flames of hell.

satisfiedhousewife, WhoreChurch 50 Comments [4/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23343

[I have passed out Chick tracts for the longest time and love the fact that people read them. However, some of my friends, family, and acquaintances despise them. What are your takes on these tracts in comic cartoon form?]

Chick tracts hit sinners right between the eyes with their sin. It also hits the saved right between the eyes with their sin. Those who do not want to conform to God's will, will always despise them.

Question: If they bring people to salvation, who else despises them? Satan.

ikester7579, BibleForums 61 Comments [4/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23344

And, yes, there were unicorns in the middle east before Christ's advent. But what the unicorn is is still up to debate. I don't think its a wild ox like the new versions footnotes say but rather perhaps a distinct species like a large rhinoceros or (as Kent Hovind proposes) a triceratops or one of its kind of family.


dabilljon, BibleForums 40 Comments [4/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23258

In my opinion, the people interviewed do not represent Christianity. Catholics are not Christian. Mormons are not Christians. Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians. Most Protestants are not Christian (saved), in fact, I would say that most people who come to the typical IFB church are not saved (50-60%). Despite what the media might want people to believe, abortion (which is the murder of an unborn child) and sodomy (an abomination against the very body and an affront to the union of the church and Christ) are not the only issues that face us. Homelessness is an issue because it is related to sin. Famine is an issue because (IMHO) it is a judgment of God upon those who have refused Him and utterly turned against Him.

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 66 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Heather

Quote# 23260

I've posted a link many times in other threads to http://www.creationevidence.org/ this is a very useful site. You can also buy books on it if you want. I have one of their videos and they show that the only physical evidence for the evolution model is a pigs tooth they excavated..there was a trial over it as to whether it was mans ancestor and it turned out to be thrown out. They lost the trial. Scientists refer to this as though they won. So there is very little evidence.


Tabula Rasa, Head2Christ 22 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Vicious Love

Quote# 23261

[The reason i don't particularly like president bush is explained in the cheating of his establishment to get into power, his intellectual incapability to rule a country, and his bias towards certain people for what they did to his father when he was in power.]

What, exactly are you talking about? Intelluctally, he is brilliant. He shows no favoritism. And I cannot see how he has 'cheated' to get into office. If you are referring to the first election - the constitution was followed by the President's team to the letter. It was the opposition who tried every dirty trick in the books to get the dem's elected. Praise God, they were not. I could not imagine what condition the country would be in if a spineless tree-hugger were in office. As for the war against terrorism - would you have the muslims take over the world? Would you have two-bit thugs like Hussein nuke us all? The world should run to the United States and thank us. Instead, fools around the world bash the United States at every turn, until they come under attack. Then, they look to the United States, the single strongest country (and single best) to save them. Just admit it ... you wish you were born an American!

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 55 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Heather

Quote# 23262

Baptists never left the Catholic church; we were never part of it; we existed before it did.


Who started the church?

Lutheran - Martin Luther
Reformed - John Calvin
Presbyterian - John Knox
Methodist - John Wesley
Baptist - Jesus Christ

Where was the church started?

Lutheran - Germany
Reformed - Switzerland, Netherlands
Presbyterian - Scotland
Episcopalians - England
Baptist - Palestine

Mrs. Debbie, Teens4Christ 79 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: KommissarKrunch

Quote# 23263

You Can Move Mountains


Did you know that, if you are a Christian, you can move mountains? I know, everyone can move mountains if they have the giant earthmovers, but you can move mountains with your word as well.

Bro. Randy, Teens4Christ 76 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: KommissarKrunch

Quote# 23264

[Submitted in contradiction to many of Bro. Randy's recent posts]

God established both the church and the civil government, and He gave each its own distinct sphere of operation. The government's purposes are outlined in Romans 13:1-7 and the church's purposes in Matthew 28:19 and 20. Neither should control the other, nor should there be an alliance between the two. Christians in a free society can properly influence government toward righteousness, which is not the same as a denomination or group of churches controlling the government.


Bro. Randy, Teens4Christ 11 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: KommissarKrunch

Quote# 23265

And what do you believe in that can be proven? Evolution is faulty.


BINGO.

There is no geologic column, there is no evolution besides micro evolution (the minute changes that occur naturally, like getting taller or shorter through the generations) there was NO Big Bang, and the grand canyon was caused by the flood that wiped out everyone but Noah, his family, and the animals that he saved. The entire universe was created in six days, and "evolution" cannot prove otherwise.

Hello, the world is only about six thousand years old. Carbon dating is pretty unreliable too.

Identifierless88, Prank.org 26 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Oryx

Quote# 23266

N - Not
E - Every
P - Person
H - Has
I - Intiution
L - Life and
I - Importantance through the son of
M - Man

I hope that makes someone's day.

You Nephilim, get on board the Ark with us Christians. We love you. We want you to be saved. Come, the Bride is saying to you right now. Give up your life of Sin and give your life to Jesus Christ.

GoodNewsJournalist, The Resistance Manifesto 42 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23267

you liberals are anti-christs ....FACT

the real michael, AW Forum 30 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23270

do-goody chompers out there will be enraged by these words...good...youve been getting up my nose since i was born ... you think you are moralistic even
though you go against your creators wishes and /or sit on the fence?
whether you are a monk or a heathen monkey, homosexuals go against both
religeous laws and the laws of nature ...and to break either one will result
in chaos ( e.g. the atom bomb... aids ...i.v.f. etc)
theres a whole world of trouble coming this way ...and only the most disciplined will survive this "mass cull" ... its no use changing your mind
at the last minute ....society is being judged right now, and if you carry on
with this facade of equality ...you will be punished by even nature itself ...
this is the short of the tale ....if you think its ok for someone to sodomise
another peson then you are an anti-god full stop .. you can hide behind your
churches and your charity orgs and fake pesonalities but you cant fool your
judge.......go on folks..speak the truth and dont be gutless ...
most of the prophets told the truth and got hounded out of town for it!
what does that teach children when you can be encarcerated for speaking
your mind??? society is sick and deluded ... no wonder your children are
raping and murdering.......and sodomising each other ...nuff said...

the real michael, AW Forum 17 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23271

Well lie-berals, I've come back to make your life miserable.

I've been locked up for the past month, so I have been unable to post my inspirational messages to all of you. The police showed up at my house with a warrant for my arrest on what they said was an assault and battery charge, but you and I both know why they were really arresting me, it was because I'm a Christian, and because we are nearing the end of days, persecution against Christians is increasing. In fact, I fully expect to be arrested again very soon. One of my friends got in trouble down in Deep Elm, which is a little community on the wrong side of the tracks, where all the bars and strip clubs are located. I swallowed my pride and went there to help him, and I was attacked, and all I did was defend myself. I'm not ashamed of the fact that I put 7 men in the intensive care unit, I did what I had to do. I know that I can get a little rowdy sometimes, and I like to go out and drink a beer or two, but at least all of the establishments that I patronize are on the RIGHT SIDE of the tracks, so that makes me a respectable citizen. I will gladly work, pray, and live on hay, why? Because Yahweh will give me a great big piece of pie in the sky on the day that I die.

The judge sentenced me to serve 11 months and 29 days, and for the first couple of weeks, it wasn't that bad. The jail was full of other mainstream American Christians who were also locked up on bogus charges, and we had a pretty good time. Then, they began to get transferred to other facilities within the state, and I was left alone and bored. So a couple of days ago, I tore the cell door off of its hinges, and walked out of that jail with a clear conscience. The guards knew better than to put their hands on me to stop me, so they just let me go. I went and paid a visit to my son, and I sang a little song to him, I picked him up in my arms and sang "Baby face, you've got the cutest little baby face".

I want to talk to you today about abortion. I always hear people say things like "Yes, I believe that abortion is the taking of an innocent human life, but who am I to judge the actions of another person. If someone wants to have an abortion, then that's their choice, and it's not my place to interfere". In modern society where moral relativism has become the norm, one of the most popular passages of the Bible is "Judge not that you be not judged". Well, most people don't realize that that particular passage is taken completely out of context. I'm not really sure when this passage of the Bible became so popular, but it has become part and parcel of the onslaught of relativism that so dominates our time. It is also the altogether natural fruit of the teaching of Satan when he approached Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden six thousand years ago, and asked "Did God really say that?"

The time has come for Roe v. Wade to be overturned. If a young girl gets into trouble, and decides to have an abortion, then she can have an illegal, back alley style abortion, the way God intended. Our society has made abortion far too sterile, and safe, when it should be dangerous and terrifying. Abortion has to be kept away from decent, polite society. Women have been getting abortions since the beginning of time, and they're never going to stop having abortions, but never before has society been so tolerant of abortion. Abortion was something that everybody knew was going on, but nobody talked about it, and that's the way it's supposed to be.

There have been times on this website when people have accused me of being a homophobe. Well, that's just not true, I know what a homophobe is, and I don't fit the description. In fact, I was thinking about this issue during my confinement, when all of a sudden, God sent me a great idea! If two men want to get married, then obviously that's illegal, but it's not illegal for a man and a woman to get married. Marriage is a societal structure best involving one man and one woman, so if one of the gay men were to undergo a sex-change operation, then they would no longer be two MEN trying to get married, which is immoral and illegal, but they would be a MAN and a WOMAN!! Don't you all see? It's a built-in loophole, homosexuals can already get married, as long as one of them consents to have a little operation in order to become a woman!! Once the man's sex organs are replaced with a woman's sex organs, then the two men are no longer two men, but one man and one woman! Now that sounds like an arrangement that would make everybody happy.

You see, there is a big difference between a human assertion on the one hand, and Yahweh's eternal truth on the other. The next time you hear someone ask "But who am I to judge?" Summon the courage to answer: "Well, that all depends on whose assertions and whose truth is being challenged."

Raisedbyhumans, you did not read my post, because you are afraid of the truth. You are a closed-minded individual, and you prefer to stay that way. That's just sad, I can't imagine being as closed-minded as you.

A wise man once said: "Minds are like parachutes, they only work when they are open". Maybe it was President Ronald Reagan who said that, I don't know, but it was some really wise man.

My fists can do more damage than any gun. It would actually be considered more humane for me to shoot somebody, than for me to punch someone. Of course, shooting would take all the fun out of fighting though.


Lying is also a sin Geoffrey! If there's one thing that you have to say about me, it's that I'm honest.

I make it a policy to not give out personal information over the internet, unless I am ordering Christian music cds, or other Christian merchandise, or sending a donation by credit card to the Republican National Committee, but why do you want to know my eye color?

Why are backing up servo? Don't start backing up now. I'm willing to give you a break, because obviously you've got no idea what you're saying. There isn't a jail that's been made that can hold me, unless I allow the jail to hold me, but then since I'm allowing myself to be held, it's not the same thing, I'm still in control. I might allow a prison to hold me for twenty or thirty years, I might allow the guards to shoot me, but I would be allowing it, I would still be in command.

Roger_Ailes aka Kelgan, IMDb 69 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: offthepigs

Quote# 23272

atheism is a sort of humanism and worship of one's self whether they admit it or not.

KingdomCome, Rapture Ready 28 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23273

atheism is not in the best interests of Satan if he is trying to enlist the world to worship him. It (atheism) was never very popular at any time. It was a strategy of the evil one for a time but as we get closer to the End, look for more and more religiosity everywhere. Ultimately, the world will take Satan as their god during the Tribulation.

Light, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23274

There has always been a belief in a greater figure, even since the chimp became man.
Going with all we know about the history of man, god/s has always been there.

If anything, atheism is the complete lack of originality as there is nothing to it. It is empty. If anything, it is a nice word to use instead of bigot.

Although, I find it hilarious that you can dis on the xtians all you want. Say something bad about the smelly jews and all hell breaks loose.
You all fucking suck!

fallingangels, LiveJournal 22 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Fili

Quote# 23275

[On geology and the age of the Earth]

I dont have a lot to offer in this subject as I suck at science AND math! However, I just want to say that I have never felt the need to question the Bible and creation because it is the Word that I live by. I know many of you will say that I am crazy to not question or be open-minded to the notion that the Bible may not be totally true. I don't even want to go there...

blessedafwife, Military.com 22 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23276

Kim: That's a great question. My realtor—who's gay—recently invited me to a dinner party at his house. Part of me wanted to attend because I've known him for years and I care about him. But another part was anxious about going. I wondered if I'd feel weird, or if I'd be able to carry on a conversation. I don't typically socialize with many gay people. I also wondered if it would look bad for me to go.

Lou: In 1 Corinthians 5:9, the apostle Paul says not to "associate with sexually immoral people"—but then he goes on to say, "not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world."

Lisa: The Bible cautions us to be in the world but not of it, but also calls us to be salt and light. When I look at who Jesus was in the gospels, I suspect he would have gone to a gay realtor's party because he didn't shy away from irreligious people. The reality is, people who aren't Christians are desperate for something that's honest, true, and real—and that's Jesus.

Kim, Lou and Lisa, Christianity Today 16 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23280

We have so many different species, that we can't even catalogue them all and you pretend that evolution molded us to fit the environment.... excuse me for laughing till the tears come... pray tell, why hasn't evolution molded life to fit the environment of the moon... why hasn't evolution molded life to fit the environment of any other planet in our solar system... funny thing that evolution is, eh???

Invictus, The Fighting Fundamental Forums 27 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23281

<<Hypothetical: Give reasons as to why a technologically advanced, intelligent, human-like "star trek" visitor to Earth when presented with Christianity would believe it?>>

Because the histories of miracles in Christianity are more reliable and present to the curious researcher.

Because Christianity is based on historical facts which happened "on our timeline", eliciting all kinds of reactions from contemporaries, and not in some mythical past.

Because the teachings of Christianity are in perfect agreement with what reason, common sense and our basic primary experience tell us about reality and our place in it.

Finally, because only in Christianity allows men to become all that they can be, and that is why it is the only religion in the world to have on its behalf the example of the saints.

Lifesaver, Christian Forums 15 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremy PC