Quote# 23282

I believe Futurama (from the same creator as The Simpsons) is also a subtle form of propaganda. It takes diversity to a whole new level. Not only are whites peacefully co-existing with other races, but humans are peacefully co-existing with other species (aliens, mutants, robots, etc).

The show is sacreligious. It makes fun of Christmas (portraying Santa Clause as a terrifying robot). There was one episode where they had proven that God does not exist, but there were still some monks in outer space that were searching for him.

In the first episode there were "suicide booths" were people could enter a quarter and choose to die "quick and painless" or "slow and horrible". They show one of the characters (I forget the name) walking around with a skimpy shirt, bear midriff. It promotes sexual promiscuity, for example, the one-eyed-alien has sex with the captain.

All the while it portrays the future in an up-beat, optimistic light...

blueeyedangel, Official Prussian Blue 71 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Yama the Space Fish

Quote# 23286

["don't believe the church focuses on poverty very much at all"]

First of all, what do you mean by "the church?" Each IFB church is just that - independent. You're making it sound like we are all in some sort of group called "the church" and that we all think the same and do things the same way. We are indeendent because we answer to no one but the Lord and His Word!

As for the poverty issue - our church does not believe in giving hand-outs. The Bible clearly states that if a man is going to eat then he must work. Society has gotten away from that. So many have gotten lazy and would rather accept governmental handouts rather than get off their behinds and work - even a job as "menial" as flipping burgers. There are jobs out there for anyone who has the gumption to work. No where in God's Word does it tell us to support those who refuse to work. I believe it does tell us to care for the fatherless and widows indeed of our churches....

["Churches have done hardly anything to get rid of racial tensions. It would seem that the equality of humans as bearers of the image of God should be something important. Yet Sunday 10 AM continues to be one of the most segregated hours of the week. It was only about 10 years ago that PCC got rid of their ban on inter-racial dating. Yes, abortion is a critical issue, but so is viewing all humans as equal before the throne of God."]

Since when is it a church's responsibility to get rid of racial tension. God did not make it so why should He fix it? Obviously God made different races for a reason so why would He want one race to be the same as another? Yes, Adam was created in the likeness of God....the rest of us are all in the similtude of Adam. He made each race different and in order for that race to remain the way He created it then each race needs to stay within themselves.

I don't know about your church, but our church has all kinds of people - whites, blacks, hispanics.....American, Indian, Romanian, Polish, African, Guyanese, etc, etc...... We all go to the same church. We all sing praises to God together. We all hear preaching together. If THAT is not racial harmony then what is? When it comes to salvation we ARE all equal in the sight of God. ALL are sinners and must come to Him in repentance and faith.

As for the interracial dating - we have covered that somewhere here on the Board before - and it is wrong biblically. Please do a search to find that topic.

["Bad things don't always come from sin."]

All bad things come from sin. When God created the world there was no sin and everything was perfect. It was only AFTER Adam chose to sin that bad things began.

["Bad things don't always come from sin. Instances in the Bible that would support this would be the suffering of Job, the tower of Siloam, and the blind man Jesus healed in John 9"]

Before sin, there was no blindness, no suffering, no sickness, etc. After sin, there was. Rather plain to me that because of sin all of these things have come to be. Was the man blind because of HIS sin? No. But blindness came to this earth as a result of sin..... That is why our bodies decay. That is why we get sick. Not necessarily because of something we personally did but because of Adam choosing to sin in the garden.

In conclusion, the work of a church is to win souls and then train them to do the same. The whole reason the Lord leaves us here on earth after salvation is to go out and spread His Good News. The work of a church is not to be like those churches who have chosen to be the advocates for anti-abortion, etc. Yes, the preachers and pastors need to make known that those things are wrong....but that is not the main goal. The main goal is to win the lost. By winning the lost to Jesus we can stop abortion, poverty, racial discrimination.....why? Because once the person accepts Christ as Saviour, he is a new creature. he has a change of heart...a change of purpose. He is transformed. It is only thru THAT that the world will be changed.

Mrs. Debbie, Teens-4-Christ 32 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 23287

[Regarding a story where 5th-grade students are busted for having sex in a Louisiana class]

OMY!!! This totally Discusts me!!! my sister is 12!!!!! OMG!!!! I cannnot BELIEVE that this is happenin, especially in a rural area in th south!! I mean 10 years ago, you wouldn't HEAR OF THIS AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well i ges since God isn't allowed in Schools then, out Kids can go to the devil now! Wow! I am astonished i have no idea wat to think or say!!!!! Its funny, that only 2% doesn't believe in God, yet we complain about how the World is going to hell in a hand basket, and WE STOP AT WORDS!! we don't do ne thing about it at all watsoever! I cannot believe this!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mine eye affecteth my heart!! wow!!!!!!!!!!1

["That's about the saddest thing I've ever heard. What in the WORLD would posess BABIES to enter into such an act. Well, I think we all know what posessed them, but where has the innocence of our children gone? So sad!"]

I know! There is no innocence any more Mrs Kristi! This is y it is our job as parents an older siblings to protect our childrens innocency. WHO CARES that people think we are shelterin or depriving our kids, I MEAN THEY ARE EXPOSED TO ENOUGH at Wal-Mart!!!!!!!!!!!!!! America needs to wake up before GOD WAKES IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ashley Brianne, Teens-4-Christ 63 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 23288

Marriage is between a man and a woman, its in the bible! And where im from, if we find out that somebody is gay, we Either A: Stay as far away as possible from them, or B: Make their life a living hell...Thats just the way it is where im from, and not only that, its just downright disgusting man.

I feel very sorry for the kids who have gay parents, because they have to witness something that disgusting. I am on the Bible's side, and that means gay=bad...

There is only 1 gay person (that I know of) that goes to our school, and he openly admitted that he was gay, and im telling you, every guy stays away from him, and beats him up like everyday, and makes fun of him I hate homosexuals with all my heart and nothing/nobody can change my view of them...No offense....

nyckid, GameTrailers forums 83 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeibi

Quote# 23289

[In response to added traffic to T4C from FSTDT bringing in more ad revenue]

See..... God always turns things around for the good... he he..!!!!

Ashley Brianne, Teens-4-Christ 29 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 23290

I HIGHLY disagree that homo sexuality is "genetic".......God makes man in his own image......sure ppl are born with certain traits and mutations and that sort, but if God doesn't approve of homosexuality, why would he let you be "born" that way? He doesn't. He gives humans and animals "free will" so its by "choice" If you let a boy be brought up by a single parent (mother), and he is raised around certain variables like having a pink room and playing with dolls, and ALWAYS being close to his mother, will ONLY make him feminine.

regime2008, GameTrailers forums 39 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23292

[Well, I'm done with him. It does not better me at all to try to discuss ANY topic with him as he will simply come back with a childish response as opposed to trying to answer the question and defend his position. As I've said before, there are Christians on here I've come to respect through the quality of their posts, but this is most certainly not one of them.]

Good, Satan's view lost out as Satan will to Jesus. Thank You Jesus of this victory over the agents of Satan. Those of you setting on the fence see the power of your savior. God wants you with him. Call on Jesus to save you. Know he over came death you can also. Believe Jesus is your savior and his father rose him from the grave, and be saved.


Prasie The Lord Jesus

Ranger_b, Military.com 15 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23294

In a nutshell.
All other Gods are dead, but Jesus is alive.
Seems logical to follow christianity really.
John.

jon1, Christian Forums 49 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23295

[In Response to "What would you do as President?" question]
* Hmm, illegal aliens:
o pass a law to severely punish ($25,000 or more per illegal employee) anyone who hires illegals. Notice, I am not suggesting any punishment here for the illegal - just the ones who entice them with jobs. If we take away the jobs, the illegals will go away too. If the employers know they will pay many thousands of dollars for every illegal in fines, they will hire legal workers.
o Create a guest worker program where it is easy to enter the country to work
o Require anyone on a 'guest worker' visa to check in every week to get paid. Basically, employers would deposit the employee's salary in a bank for the employee. The employee would have to go to the bank and identify himself (thus checking in) to receive his pay.
* Put a 'fair tax' in place and delete the income tax. The fair tax is a tax on consumption - like a sales tax.
* Push for accountability in schools through the use of vouchers.
* Issue a sidearm to every citizen and train the citizens to use them.
* Get back to the constitution
o Remove judges who ignore the law and the constitution (this would eliminate all the 9th circuit judges).
o Establish the definition of the amendments in the Bill of Rights.
o more...
* Establish a 'loss of rights' clause. Basically, if you're in jail for a felony, you have no rights other than basic survival needs.
* Install electric chairs in court rooms used for murder, rape and child abuse trials (you get the idea here).
* Ban all sodomite specific rights.
* Create a 'work-fare' system to replace 'welfare'. A system where people in need are trained to become employable.
* Remove all 'minimum wage' laws.
* Get all religion out of state-sponsored schools (including muslim, humanism, and evolutionism).
* Establish the most powerful, technologically advanced, best-armed, all-volunteer military ever dreamed of.

Bro Randy, Teens-4-Christ 71 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23296

People like to say that arabics were more developed than europeans in middle ages.
That's true until 13 century. Arabs conquer most of Byzantines and found texts of greek philosophers. That allowed them to be as developed as byzantines. That happened later? Nothing, they learned to repeat those texts. )
Why nothing more? Why not the burst of innovations which happened than europeans rediscovered these texts? Answer - islam is not good religion for innovations, but christianity is. Confucianism is also definitely not good for innovations, nor pagan religions of maya or aztecs.

lapas, Paradox Interactive EU3 Discussion Board 36 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23297

[I'd like to know why the rights of gays supercede the rights of Christians? I always thought that it was "majority rules" in this country?]

Because this is the foothold used by satan to initiate the persecution of the church.
Satan doesn't care one whit about gays and would gladly sacrifice their lives if it served his purpose. No they are the unwitting tools he will use to start the destruction of the last remaining Christian nation on earth.

He has never learned that Christians as a persecuted minority are far more dangerous to him in the long run. The wanna-bees will drop away, leaving only the commited Christians free to plug into the power of prayer and make more converts than ever before. Look at the Chinese church for instance: The communist revolution started with only a few thousand Christians in the country. Now there are untold millions upon millions!

MrMannn, Rapture Ready 29 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23298

You first have to know the teachings of Christ to know what we follow. And considering that Jesus himself was the first fundamentalist because he authored scripture as John 1:1-2, and John 1:14 tells us, then again you are in error, as usual. And considering that atheists don't even believe that God exists, then of course they cannot speak knowledgably at all about God. They therefore don't even know who Jesus is. So all this forum shows is the ignorance of atheists.

Carico, FSTDT Forums 38 Comments [4/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23204

America will not be able to end terrorism. Only the Lord will do that when He returns.

Why don't we take care of the other thugh-run countries? Honestly, there are two reasons: 1) the communist / liberal press would not stand for it. 2) Liberals such as Klinton have literally gutted our military.

As for the WMD's. Do any of you deny that Saddam used WMD's on his own people? What more proof do we need? By the way, if the UN had done their job, we would have found the WMD's a lot sooner.

Why haven't the baltics been attacked by terrorists? Correct me if I am wrong, but these countries, as well as much of europe is rapidly giving in to the muslims. Oh, as for other european countries not being attacked by the mus terrorists...Can we say SPAIN? Can we say Subways? Can we say Bus attacks? Terrorists are attacking at every chance they can - they attack anyone who does not succomb to their perverted beliefs. Why is America the major target? We are a CHRISTIAN NATION that actually stands up for ISRAEL (sometimes). This angers those of the muslim persuasion. This is why they hate us. It is ironic: aside from our worshipping the one true God in contrast with their paganism, they actually tend to idolize the American way of life. You can see this by looking at their young people. They dress and act very American.

Now, finally, false pretences. Well, that is a liberal lie. All you have to do is listen to the true reporters (what few there are), and you will see the truth. Take a look at World Net Daily (www.worldnetdaily.com) Though I do not completely agree with everything they post (they are pro-cATHOLIC, for example), but they have a good take of the news. You should read it.



Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 29 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23209

Homosexual activists deny that they target children for seduction into the homosexual lifestyle, but the evidence is overwhelming that this is a lie.

There is an ever-increasing effort among homosexual organizations to target public school children, to abolish age of consent laws, and to publish “studies” that purportedly show that adult/child sex is not harmful.

The following reports provide clear and convincing proof that homosexual pedophiles (called pederasts) want children. Homosexuals should not be given special federal protections under “hate crime” laws; they should not be free to promote homosexuality in public schools; nor should they be allowed to marry or adopt children. Many homosexuals are sexual predators who prey on children.


David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 31 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23214

When it comes to faith, proof and evidence was the last thing I looked for, and I admit to it fully.

DietCherryCola, Christian Forums 37 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23215

By the way I am responding to the comment of the 4 Step Proof,which is not related to CARM because CARM is a cult like fstdt. fstdt is a cult because of its bias against Christ without having any reason for reviling Him; while CARM is false Christianity and its owner Matt Slick is not a Christian since he teaches 3 major false teachings: non-Biblical pentecostalism gibberish babble, calvinism and amillennialism.


A Friend, Fstdt! Comments 160 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23216

Why have the members of the churches not grown? It is because the members as lambs did not receive the rich pure milk from the true mother church, but received some diluted, adulterated milk, and therefore now, cannot digest, assimilate, strong meat when it is fed to them to make spiritual growth. The reason the lambs were not fed the pure and sincere milk was because another mother, a false mother church took the place of the real mother church, the mother church that Christ has already called, chosen, tested and proven to be the mother church in its early New Testament days with its deeply converted leadership, and who were fed by the chief shepherd under the direction of the Father.

YOU59, YOU59 homepage 51 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: PhoenixUltima

Quote# 23221

The 'Dear American' topic was deleted.

It quickly became clear that some of you could not discuss this topic without expressing political views. Though I would love to, we do not discuss politics on Teens-4-Christ.

It was also abundantly clear that some of you have no common sense. Becasue of the latter, it was quite clear that the discussion would quickly turn into a debate.

Bro.Randy, teens-4-christ 56 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Betsy Newson

Quote# 23224

Always go to God before the Doctor, then and only then we know if it is allowed to remain that God has allowed such a thing to exist. Sickness is from sin and the fall on all men. But through Jesus Christ we are all healed but we have not necessarily been given that healing in our present bodies. We still die.

We do know this. All healing is from God. But God does not always heal our current bodies. In all things Trust God.

BHiles, Rapture Ready 57 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Khaine

Quote# 23228

There’s no such thing as an “X-Christian”.

Let’s imagine that it’s a beautiful spring day and you walk to the park to eat your lunch under the shade of an old oak tree.

As you’re eating, watching the squirrels chase one another, listening to the giggling children as they play, a man in a wheel chair rolls up to you and says, “do you mind if I join you?”

“Of course not”, you say, “the more the merrier!”

So he pulls up alongside you, takes out his lunch and you begin to talk. After a while, the conversation turns to his wheel chair.

Awkwardly, you ask, “If you don’t mind my asking, how did you come to be in that wheel chair?”

“Oh, this thing?” he says with a laugh, “well, you see, about five years ago, I was crossing some railroad tracks and I was sure I could beat that train. I guess I was wrong. The train ran over me. Took off both legs and about 20” of intestine.”

You’re horrified. “That’s terrible!”, you say.

He looks at you with a reassuring smile and answers, “Oh, it’s OK. You see, I don’t believe in trains anymore.”

That’s insane, right? I mean, here the guy is, sitting right in front of you, two legs sheared off and a colostomy bag at his side to testify his encounter with the train.

The Bible tells us that when a person has an encounter with the Living God, there will be discernable, demonstrable evidence. Just as this man showed physical evidence, so will Christians show spiritual evidence and character traits that the Bible calls the “fruit of the Holy Spirit.”

There’s no such thing as an X-Christian. Either they’re showing the evidence, or they’re not.

MikeMcK, Christian Forums 82 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23229

I'm never embarassed to be an American.

If it wasn't for my country, and the strong Christians in it,
most of the world would be quite bad off.

God bless America.
Land that I love!
I love America because it was founded on Christianity.
It's not now, thanks to the perverts and communist/liberal/democrats
who do nothing but try their hardest to tear down the most beautiful
country on the earth!
Don't ever be ashamed to be an American.

Biblereader, 123 Christian Forums 48 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23231

God told me this. Those words came into my head specifically. A huge overflow of good and evil are coming. I'm just saying that there's something not good about Barrack Obama. I don't care if my mom and I are the only one's who see it. Something is not good when I look at him or I think of him.

I believe the huge overflow of good and evil means that there's a war coming between good and evil. I believe this has something to do with the Anti-Christ. I feel like I'm supposed to preach. About 2 years ago, the number 24 came to me and I thought age. I think I'll be around that age when I begin preaching and when the Anti-Christ comes. I believe I'm supposed to preach during the time of the Anti-Christ. Preach the Truth that Jesus told us. Keep people away from him. I don't believe I'm the only one. I believe my generation's blessed. I tell you now, be prepared. A lot of bad things are about to happen within the next 10-15 years probably but also, God will be with us and a lot of good will happen as well.

FenderElctrc, Christian forums 41 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Traitor1

Quote# 23241

please note, no one is being mean or hateful, so that sort of criticism is not only a red herring, it's Christian bashing. We, of all people should not partake of that. The problem here is not the Christians, it's the homosexual activists trying to gain church membership in order to corrupt from within, to bring down the church with a series of law suits designed to destroy it. So, why on earth are we wasting time talking about "the mean old Christians" again. The Christian bashing, the American bashing, the heterosexual bashing.....all of it is part of the agenda.


Kyrie Eleison, Rapture Ready 19 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23242

I still don't get how the public schools can justify forcing their personal beliefs and agendas on kids who DON'T belong to them and yet tell Christian kids to be quiet when they mention Jesus.

CaiperLane, Rapture Ready 19 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 23246

Bradleyward doesnt have a clue , dumb as they come, he thinks a little change for a animal is a big leap in evolving.

one thing he fails to spot is that the finch is still a finch , its feet may change , its head might turn into a lizzards head , but its still a finch

st_patrick, The Sun Online 30 Comments [4/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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