Quote# 27219

[in response to a comment about the vast amount of evidence that supports the big bang theory]

I'm quite familiar with the evidence, yet I don't accept it.

One Eyed Jack , Theology Online 23 Comments [7/14/2007 5:10:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Aaron

Quote# 27196

Ante Pavkovic, Kathy Pavkovic, and Kristen Sugar were all arrested in the chambers of the United States Senate as that chamber was violated by a false Hindu god. The Senate was opened with a Hindu prayer placing the false god of Hinduism on a level playing field with the One True God, Jesus Christ. This would never have been allowed by our Founding Fathers.

"Not one Senator had the backbone to stand as our Founding Fathers stood. They stood on the Gospel of Jesus Christ! There were three in the audience with the courage to stand and proclaim, 'Thou shalt have no other gods before me.' They were immediately removed from the chambers, arrested, and are in jail now. God bless those who stand for Jesus as we know that He stands for them." Rev. Flip Benham, Director, Operation Save America/Operation Rescue


Pat McEwen, Christian News Wire 46 Comments [7/13/2007 4:10:07 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 27186

First of all, most of the children starving/dying in poor countries are not Christian. Secondly it is Christian values, not unbaptized children that we are talking about here.
Jessica


Jessica73, Christian Forums 73 Comments [7/13/2007 10:32:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Conundrum

Quote# 27197

The definition of love thy neighbour
is you are required to warn your
neighbor that their sins will take them to hell.
And if you don't than you hate your neighbor.

shine, The Resistance Manifesto 53 Comments [7/13/2007 10:32:11 AM]
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Quote# 27194

Sure, a teen living for Christ will be different than the world. God even calls us a "peculiar people, zealous of good works" (Titus 2:14). But that is expected. We ARE to be different. We're children of the King! Royalty shouldn't act like common peasants!

ImaSaved1, Teens-4-Christ 77 Comments [7/13/2007 8:59:57 AM]
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Quote# 27192

"In God We Trust" on these new "devil dollar" coins is in an irreverent unimportant inconspicuous place on the side of the coin today , and "In God We Trust" will be completely off of US MINT coins in the future unless we boycott these coins now.

BOYCOTT the new "devil dollar" coin.

Refuse to accept it and the US Mint will have no other choice but to put "In God We Trust" back on the face of all US Mint coins where it deserves.

Dr. Michael Schmidt L.T.D., Ready Aim fire your views if you dare forum baby! 47 Comments [7/13/2007 6:34:27 AM]
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Quote# 27187

I am sure that all of the pro homo pro aborts libs and Hillary Clinton fans think that my trumpet playing is poor, those people who do not think that I can play a trumpet well are the ones who are the complete joke. I am not the Christian trumpet player who played the trumpet for the pro aborts. I play the Trumpet for the Lord, not for the baby killers and for queer ministers and their pro homo pro abort "churches".

Those who do not repent and give up their homosexual lifestyle will spend all eternity in Hell, (unrepentant) practicing homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God, see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.


Dr. Michael Schmidt L.T.D., VoyForums: Ready Aim fire your views if you dare forum baby! 38 Comments [7/13/2007 1:51:42 AM]
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Submitted By: rlrr

Quote# 27180

Eighty books in high school library stacks are corrupting students with tales of abortion, homosexuality and atheism. That's according to a West Palm Beach mother who has appealed to the school board to remove the books from the shelves of Dreyfoos and Royal Palm Beach high schools.

Laura Lopez has been fighting since September to ban these books that she says "promote sin and lies."

[...]

Lopez admits she hasn't read a single one of the objectionable books cover-to-cover.

In her appeal, she quotes scripture and blames the Columbine school shootings, drugs, bullies, teenage pregnancy and other ills on what she considers the removal of God from schools.

She targets literary genres ranging from reference books to short stories. Among the books she wants removed are "Medical Ethics: Moral and Legal Conflicts in Health Care," "Warriors of God: Richard the Lionhearted and Saladin in the Third Crusade," "Coping When a Parent is Gay" and "The Cider House Rules," a John Irving novel about a rural doctor who runs an orphanage and performs illegal abortions.

Lopez said the book challenges stemmed from a basic interest in the types of books in her sons' school libraries.

So, she went to the computerized card catalogue and typed in the keywords "homosexuality," "abortion" and "atheism." She was shocked by the dozens of titles that popped up.

"My kids are going to school to learn, not to become a homosexual or an abortion doctor or an atheist," she said.

[...]

In her objection to "Am I Blue?: Coming out from the Silence," a collection of 18 short stories about gay and lesbian issues, Lopez wrote: "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, and not Eve and Sue."

[...]

Even within her own home, reaction is split.

"My oldest son doesn't believe in God," she said. "I guess he kind of thinks I'm stupid."

Laura Lopez, Palm Beach Post 52 Comments [7/13/2007 1:21:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 27185

A Hindu clergyman made history Thursday by offering the Senate's morning prayer, but only after police officers removed three shouting protesters from the visitors' gallery.

Rajan Zed, director of interfaith relations at a Hindu temple in Reno, Nev., gave the brief prayer that opens each day's Senate session. As he stood at the chamber's podium in a bright orange and burgundy robe, two women and a man began shouting "this is an abomination" and other complaints from the gallery.

For several days, the Mississippi-based American Family Association has urged its members to object to the prayer because Zed would be "seeking the invocation of a non-monotheistic god."

Zed, the first Hindu to offer the Senate prayer, began: "We meditate on the transcendental glory of the Deity Supreme, who is inside the heart of the Earth, inside the life of the sky and inside the soul of the heaven. May He stimulate and illuminate our minds."

[...]

Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said the protest "shows the intolerance of many religious right activists. They say they want more religion in the public square, but it's clear they mean only their religion."

AP Story, MSNBC 43 Comments [7/12/2007 9:44:25 PM]
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Quote# 27176

I must say that I, as a sister in Christ, detect rebellion in your heart towards the Word of God. Yes, we are all equal in the Lord’s eyes; however, God our Father has established certain roles for men and women and He does tell us in his Word what those roles are. A woman can share the gospel with others, certainly, but just not in a church leadership role, nor is a woman allowed to teach and lead other men “in the church.” This is clearly laid out as doctrine in the NT for the church…the Lord does not allow women pastors and 1 Tim 2:14 tells us why….because Adam was was formed first and Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. The Lord does tell us that women are to be keepers at home, and the husband is to work and provide for his family, which is not to say that a woman cannot help out in some way (Prov. 31), but her main role is at home with the children serving her husband and being a helpmeet to him (this idea is so foreign in our culture because of the vain philosophy of women’s lib). The Lord tells us in His word for wives to be submissive and obey their husbands in all things (I’m still not perfect in this area and praying through this).

Millerfamily6, CSE blogs 32 Comments [7/12/2007 9:38:43 PM]
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Quote# 27155

Accidentalism is religion
religion without proof, not tested, observed.

Creation only by
1. Accidentalism. Limitless accidents create something from absolute nothing.
Something becomes more complex, formig universe and earth. One cell becomes man in 400 million years.
2. Creation. Rngineering. A Planner. Founders of scientific disciplines mostly Christians (Bible-believers), who noted the complexity of the world and living things. A list of top 100 would be around 99% Christians.

Is there another basic theory to explain creation other than above two?

BETTING YOUR LIFE (and family and friends) ON THE ODDS:

Carl Sagan on life creating from chance on any one planet, including earth:
1 chance in 10^2 billion zeros (that's number 1 followed by 2 billion zeros).

A law of probability states that any number that has more than 1 chance in 10^50 will NEVER happen, no matter the time, no matter the perfect conditions.

Dr. Frank Salisbury, Atomic Energy Commission, on the odds.
A. The chance of ONE DNA molecule forming by accident, assuming there is already life, and all the inhabitable 'perfect' planets: 1 in 10^415.
B. The chance of this ONE DNA molecule forming by accident if the universe is packed with earth-like planets, with no space between them : 1 in 10^377.

To get idea what these huge numbers mean:
imagine Amos the Amoeba with the job of transporting each atom in the universe from one end to the other. His rate of travel is ONE INCH per 15 billion years. And instead of just our universe, Amos has to travel the length of 600,000 trillion trillion trillion universes the size of ours. He will complete his job in 10^177 years.

I would not bet my life on these odds. I would not bet my life on a roll of the dice. Yet this is what one does when one believes in accidentalism.

Only the Bible has a perfect track record. What it records becomes reality.
It surpasses the 1 in 10^50 test, to basically infinity..

Darwin in his Origin said, "We may well assume ..." over 400 times.

I may well assume the Bible is correct, because its proofs are far more valid than accidentalism.

Not only the greatest scientists agree with Christ, but the greatest legal minds, experts on evidence:
Prof. Simon Greenleaf, whose rules of evidence are considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written.
Sir Lionel Luckhoo, Guiness Book's 'most successful attorney' with 245 consecutive major wins.
Both set out to disprove Christianity. Both became Christians after.
Lord Darling, fmr. Chief Justice of England : "Overwheliming evidence ... that the resurrection story is true ..."

One cell would not become a bug in one hundred billion years.

seductrix , IMDB.com 46 Comments [7/12/2007 9:38:14 PM]
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Quote# 27161

Sir, if there were zero evidence to contradict the theory of global warming, it would not be a theory, it would be a law. Absolutist statements like this are one of the key reasons I am comfortable keeping my skepticism.

ClarityofPurpose, Christian Forums 28 Comments [7/12/2007 9:29:30 PM]
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Submitted By: PastorPoe

Quote# 27181

Women, like wealthy people, should only be allowed to vote if it's for a conservative.

We women use our hearts instead of our brains. Brains always win out in serious issues.

Really great article. You have to give it to Ann Coulter, she really does her research.

buzzthepug!, FreeConservatives 85 Comments [7/12/2007 9:29:13 PM]
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Quote# 27182

To take it one step further, I think most women aren't qualified emotionally or psychologically to work outside of the home. Well, maybe rudimentary work but not in position of serious decision-making.

Or maybe most women just aren't as smart as the guys. Many seem to have a hard time staying in reality.

buzzthepug!, Free Conservatives 58 Comments [7/12/2007 8:32:09 PM]
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Quote# 27179

[A game invented by IFBaptistgirl called "Name that Cult"]
Usually, I don't get into the games, but this one's gonna be fun!

Hmmm sits in a box telling secrets to someone who can't see them (or forgive them) .... Catholics?

Perhaps the Catholic Priest needs to come out of the closet

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 58 Comments [7/12/2007 8:31:52 PM]
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Quote# 27165

1. The term "Natural Selection" was not appropriate term in science for the changes that are being observed. Nature cannot select for herself. She is not human, she is blind, she has no mind, no will, no reason, no purpose. The best term that Darwin should be using was Species Interrelation.

By using that term NATURAL SELECTION, Darwin had made nature as it was the same with living things like dogs or cats that has the will to survive, therefore has will to select for themselves.

NATURE SELECTION is one of the worst term that he had used, Worst because he did not even think that it denotes supernatural meaning. Why? He had animated nature, like Aessop's who animated many animals in his fable story books.

So Darwin's science was a fable.

2. I also believed that Darwin was thinking like this when he wrote that book.

Species A had become Species B, then, become Species C...then so on. This is supernatural. This is what he meant NATURAL SELECTION.

The fact is that, Species A had become Species A001, then had become Species A00112, and had become Species A200, and had become Species A2111 in the long course oftime. This Species A did not become Species B!This is what I meant by INTERRELATION.

samurai, IIDB 35 Comments [7/12/2007 7:47:22 PM]
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Quote# 27172

Reproduction doesn't occur with two men ONLY proves that it's NOT MEANT TO BE.

If you tried to copulate with a giraffe, it wouldn't work would it? It's not normal, you won't get it pregnant, because of chromosomal problems, nature's way of saying "this isn't right"

If everyone turned gay...considering being gay is not a problem, if everyone did turn gay what would happen to the species? And no one wanted to mate with the opposite sex to procreate, keeping in mind this is a nature point of view. Then is it still not a problem?

Bah, I don't have time to argue this. I rest my case. It's not normal, I win. K? Thanks

InsaneRecluse, Christian Forums 48 Comments [7/12/2007 7:47:17 PM]
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Quote# 27170

[on the movie "Evan Almighty"]


"Sorry, I don't know how God's eternal justice is a humorous matter. Perhaps you'll stop laughing as soon as your skin melts off in the lake of fire.

And Lotte-18, why do you think our LORD would forgive a gaggle of Hollywood atheists making light of his scripture and holy Covenant with mankind, only to turn a profit? When did he "forgive" the Philistines or Sodomites?"

Sphinx871, IMDB 30 Comments [7/12/2007 7:47:07 PM]
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Quote# 27183

I agree that the baby mammoth was frozen. But it had to be quick frozen to be so well preserved, not frozen over time.

There was a cataclysmic event a few thousand years ago that would have produced a quick freeze as the earth lost its protective covering and tilted due to a lot of water that came down over a forty day period.

Of course.....global warming may have thawed it out.

Bad day for evolutionists who just don't get it.


cameron, rapture ready 30 Comments [7/12/2007 7:46:13 PM]
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Quote# 27178

1. DNA is a code
2. All codes come from a mind
3. DNA comes from a mind.

End Times, CSE blogs 53 Comments [7/12/2007 6:46:41 PM]
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Quote# 27169

What these people do not realize is simple: this battle is not them against me, it is them against God. Against anyone, God + nothing is an overwhelming majority!

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 62 Comments [7/12/2007 4:37:16 PM]
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Quote# 27166

[So, basically, you haven't read On the Origin of Species, and therefore have assumed that a) Darwin was anthropomorphizing Nature and b) that you somehow know what he was thinking.
Perhaps, and, really, I'm just tossing this idea out, I know it's crazy, but...
read the book so you actually possess a small faint glimmer of a clue.]

I have read his book but I am not convince about his findings and conclusion.

a) Yes, indirectly speaking, without Darwin's knowing, he was anthropomorphizing nature. How? He thought to himself that he knew nature more than anyone else on earth. Maybe he had talked to nature (a rock in Galapagos, maybe) in his coffee break, or had received from nature ( a squid, maybe) a documents saying that the origin of all species were caused by nature. And Darwin maybe had these hard facts/evidences from nature that he just kept them before his death and before he die, he thrown them all away. Because if Darwin did not have these evidences from nature, he would simply say that ALL SPECIES are interrelating, the logical and reasonable natural explanation of nature if you observed it well.

b) He was thinking that he was an smart guy of saying that NATURAL SELECTION had caused these new species. But the reverse was true. He had quickly plunged into the pond of supernatural.

samurai, IIDB 28 Comments [7/12/2007 4:36:24 PM]
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Quote# 27168

If God didn't tell Moses what to write how did he write the first five books? He told the prophets what to write. They couldn't have written the books of the Bible without God telling them. Did you know that the Bible is known as the Word of God and that Jesus is the Word of God? It says so in there. You have to believe the whole Bible. And there has been scrolls and such found proving the Bible is true.

StringNChrist, CBH 40 Comments [7/12/2007 2:21:28 PM]
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Quote# 27160

Where evidence disagrees with the Bible --- evidence is wrong.

AV1611VET, Christian Forums 56 Comments [7/12/2007 1:34:00 PM]
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Submitted By: PastorPoe

Quote# 27158

I will tell you the truth behind the September 11th 2001 incident. It was a plan put in place by the United Nations to increase the scientific and sociological progress of the human race. A strike team of Arabic men and convert agents was sent back in time to July 27th 2001, where they would prepare for an assault on the World Trade Center, and infiltrate the ranks of Iraqi religious groups, respectively. The goal, in short, was to stir up an increasing hatred of religion, long viewed by the U.N as an illness plaguing mankind. This and the events that followed were all orchestrated by the U.N. A few years after the the start of the War on Terror, scientists and scholars were sent, in order to aid research and spread their atheistic propaganda. Soon, they plan to implement a humanistic world-view into many country's governmental organizations, eventually labeling religion as a mass mental illness, have its practice outlawed, and it's followers hospitalized for de-programming, in the process. They plan to increase funds into scientific and medical research, mine the Earths moon, and strive to achieve a globally unified government. These are but few of many goals that they plan to accomplish. I am not allowed to divulge all the information. My purpose here today is to warn people of an expected religious war, and to advise that they should invest in tools and equipment that will ensure your safety. It has been noted that members of this particular internet website are especially sharp at discerning the truth behind many events, and so I was advised to begin here as you may be more accepting. Ideally, you should aim to own a gas mask, a gun, a reinforced bunker, and a plentiful supply of clean water, tinned food, and medicine for you and your family. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Reazek Jun, The Resistance Manifesto 76 Comments [7/12/2007 1:11:28 PM]
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