Quote# 27100

why is there no respect for Christians. it seems everyone else can practice their faith yet Christians do and they are penalized. The last time I checked America is a Christian country...they are not enforcing it upon anyone...if they want to celebrate christimas or if walmart wants to greet with a merry christmas it should be allowed. Why do you think people are there for.. they are there for presents thats how departments make all this money

idiotbiatch, IMDB.com 48 Comments [7/11/2007 5:41:34 AM]
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Quote# 27142

[I accept Christianity as the only logical religion]

Yeah, it would be EXCEPT for the fact, Christianity is NOT a Religion!
They are complete opposites.

ThreeInOne, 123 Christian Forums 61 Comments [7/11/2007 2:03:18 AM]
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Quote# 27113

[So, you started reading the bible about 5 or 6, and you were born in 1980?? Keep studying, because you don't have a lot of understanding about the mercy and grace of God at all.]

I said "over twenty years." I decided that the Bible was true when I was three. And I know that God's grace is efficacious for all sin. And that those who come to Christ will never lose their salvation. But if someone commits a crime, no matter what it is, they should accept the punishment God has set forth. And that God is the authority on what should be a crime, and what should not. And He's also the authority on what the punishment should be. And if the government ignores God, then people will not be punished righteously, but we, as God's children should still want God's rules to be in place. My dad, a former queer, still believes that he deserves the death penalty for what he did. But, since it is not the current law of the land, he is still alive. And if God's rules were to be set in place, they would not be retroactive, so my dad would not die for his crimes, because they were not crimes [under the government] when he committed them. But if he were to commit any crime under God's rule, then he would accept that punishment, even if it were death.

Lighthouse, TheologyOnline 34 Comments [7/11/2007 2:00:33 AM]
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Quote# 27105

LOOK: Naturalistic science had already labeled humans as animals, why not ask every human if they really evolve or created or not? If both nature and species (except humans) can't talk, why bother to make them as standard in changes of species?! HUMANS can talk, can express themselves...then, ask them. If they all say that they had evolved from lower forms of animals, then, it is natural that humans are the product of evolution process! Then, Evolution is really natural.


samurai, IIDB 33 Comments [7/10/2007 11:53:59 PM]
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Quote# 27106

[Evolutionists today are not sexists, because science shows that sexism is not rational. Many creationists are sexists, because they retain a conservative that women are inferior.]

Silly me. Of course Darwin’s prejudices would not enter into theories about survival of the fittest and superiority of one species, sex and race over another. So now all evolutionists are not sexists or many are not sexists? Exactly or approximately how many creationists are sexists?
Is it sexist to understand there are differences between males and females both physically and emotionally so that each has a unique function in life? The Bible refers to the woman as the weaker vessel, not the inferior vessel. (Just as a piece of bone china is weaker than a clay pot, and should be treated with more care and consideration.) More responsibility is placed on the man’s shoulders as head of household and the woman is especially adapted for her role, as much as a man is built for his. Not many men have adapted to birthing and breastfeeding babies. ::Wide-eyed smiley:: Do you have any stats on that?

[Darwin's theory said:

1. More are born than can survive to reproduce
2. All organisms vary slightly
3. Those variations that improve chances of survival tend to increase in a population
4. These accumulate and account for the variety of life we see.]

If that was all that Darwin’s theory was, it would not have bothered anyone.
1. God adapted his creatures to survive in the world that was subjected to death and decay.

2. God likes variety. He is creative. Maybe that’s why we call him the Creator.

3. Good adaptations were created by an amazing, intelligent being. Romans 8 says the creation was made subject to vanity… a system of self preservation to preserve it until the fallen world was destroyed and all was ready for the coming new world.

4. Variations accumulate as God intended. (see #3)

Unred Typo, 123 Christian Forums 16 Comments [7/10/2007 11:49:24 PM]
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Quote# 27093

Evolution is philosophically and somewhat religiously based.

It is a philosophy/religion. I'm sure if it wasn't for tax dollars, or if the world just accepted it as a philosophy/religion, it would almost die out completely.

#1vaderfan, starwars.com forums 27 Comments [7/10/2007 11:48:57 PM]
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Quote# 27096

Evolution Theory (ET) is not natural science. It is supernatural, fable, mythological, and pokemon-styled- science.

I can prove it.

Now, I am a Christian.

samurai, Internet Infidels 44 Comments [7/10/2007 11:48:04 PM]
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Quote# 27128

And, here is the problem most Christians have. You will never admit logical defeat, no matter the proof.

Do you understand that the earth's rotation is SLOWING down over time? Do you agree that if we go backwards in time that the earth rotated FASTER. (am i going slow enough for you?)
OK, now this is tricky, and I might not get it correctly because several people here say I am clueless.
When you speed up rotation, gravity has a greater effect, as in you get heavyer. Go back less than one million years and you have a earth that is spinning fast enough that there is no way anything can live with gravity that harsh. Go back a bit farther and soon the earth is spinning so fast that things actually fly off. And you want to go back, how many years? Trillions? hmmm, lets see, i dont think so.

Next, our moon, over time, has been pulling away from the earth. Again, if we go back wards in time then the moon gets CLOSER. Its not very long before it colides with the earth. (now hold on, im not finished so dont go getting on your soap box about it coming from the earth)

The way evolution puts things, dinosoars roamed earth billions of years ago. Besides the fact that the earth would be spinning so fast that they could not of possibly stand up under the pull of that great a gravity, it was stated that the moon splintered off the earth either at about this time or before it.

Well, if you bring the moon back towards the earth at the rate in which it is moving away now (and btw, it would have been a different rate due to the pull of earth gravity because it was closer, but lets just let that go for now) The moon would have collided with the earth way before evolution puts it departing from the earth.

I have given you two LOGICAL reasons why the earth could not be trillions of years old as you state.

Snow Leopard, RichardDawkins.net 44 Comments [7/10/2007 11:41:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Raistlin

Quote# 27136

And God says He wrote the Bible so why not believe that - when you see a book written by an author, you don't question it, so why do we question whether God wrote (or inspired) the bible.

Karis Anne Willcock, facebook 59 Comments [7/10/2007 11:41:27 PM]
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Quote# 27088

Fort Lauderdale's Republican Mayor Jim Naugle wants to spend a quarter million dollar on a robotic toilet that is supposed to make it more difficult of horny gays to have public sex on the beach.

"We're trying to provide a family environment where people can take their children who need to use the bathroom," he said, "without having to worry about a couple of men in there engaged in a sex act."

The proposed location for the toilet is the world-famous gay beach Sebastian Beach, where the high-tech toilet will allow occupants to stay inside for only a short period of time before the door opens. Naugle thinks this will prevent the "homosexual activity" that he said plagues other public restrooms.

Naugle also said, "I don't use the word 'gay.' I use the word 'homosexual.' Most of them aren't gay. They're unhappy."

Fort Lauderdale police say sex in restrooms is not a problem in the city. "There's no evidence, no reports or arrests made for any men having sex in any restrooms," said Sgt. Frank Sousa.

But still the mayor thinks it is. "Public restrooms are pickup places for "homosexuals. ... They're engaging in sex, anonymous sex, illegal sex," he said.

Jim Naugle, BGay.com 60 Comments [7/10/2007 11:39:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 27109

[I can almost hear God now...did you tell the homosexual about my Son? No Lord, we tried to get them executed, even though You wanted to try and save them...PATHETIC!!!]

Executing them is God's idea, not ours, you blitheringly idiotic blasphemous cow!

If homos were executed as God instructs in the Bible then more people would end up in heaven, not less. God has more smarts and mercy in His big toe than you know how to conceive of. You are not more merciful than God, nor could you be if you tried.

Resting in Him,
Clete

Clete, TheologyOnline 51 Comments [7/10/2007 11:39:04 PM]
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Quote# 27086

[Raising Godly Tomatoes is a site dedicated to a parental technique they lovingly call tomato staking, which involves keeping your kids isolated from the rest of the world and keeping them at arm's length and under absolute control from birth to at least the age of eighteen. Here, Elizabeth talks about socialization between children.]

"When they (the children) are small it's not much of a problem at all. Just don't put them in nurseries, or make play dates, or send them to pre-school, etc. In my opinion, this goes for most church activities too. We do not send our children to Sunday School, or Jr. Church, or Vacation Bible School, etc. We keep them in church with us when we go. (We are currently home churching with a number of other like-minded families so we don't regularly attend a traditional church.) We don't do this just to keep our kids separate, we really do believe that kids should be worshipping with their parents, not playing (or even worshipping) with their buddies only. Don't start encouraging them to play freely with the neighbor children. Keep them at home with you for the most part and when you feel the urge to socialize, do it as a family with other like minded families. Focus on relatives if possible regardless of whether or not they have children. Your children will benefit far more from a day spent with Grandma, than a day spent with the neighbor kids.

Once they've reached school age you still should not have problems if you homeschool and haven't encouraged friendships and free, unsupervised, socializing with neighbors, etc.. There won't be a problem with them longing for the company of their friends because their friends will be their parents and siblings. I think that is the way it should be.

About neighbors, if you start out letting your children play with the neighbor children it will be hard to break the habit later, especially without offending the neighborhood parents. Don't get started. If your neighbor sends their child over to play, try to be "unavailable" until they lose interest (and they will when they find other friends). I'd recommend being friendly to all neighbors, but don't become close friends unless they share your views on the matter of homeschooling and socializing.

Even if you find a group of people who all homeschool and all have no TV and all have similar beliefs, etc. it is still not wise to let your children socialize too much, even as teens, maybe I should say "especially as teens".

[I can only hope that this is a joke, elaborate for its own sake.]

Elizabeth, Raising Godly Tomatoes 65 Comments [7/10/2007 9:45:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Action Hobo

Quote# 27098

The Holy Spirit has been moving in me in big ways lately. I think this picture is no accident. Something big is going to happen. I think, it's something wonderful. Not the rapture, but a worldwide agreement.

I believe the marriage of the Lamb has happened, and the seed of the marriage is on earth right now, and has been germinated. We are on edge of Revelation. Not the book, but God revealing Himself.

I have been praying. When I pray, I ask God to reveal Himself before the wrath, so that all of God's children may experience His love, and therefore worship Him in all the Glory that He deserves.

I believe this picture giving us a little sample of what's to come

[You can see the picture he's talking about <a href=http://www.rr-bb.com/showpost.php?p=100540&postcount=1>here</a>.]

oneofGod, Rapture Ready 31 Comments [7/10/2007 9:12:07 PM]
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Quote# 27094

I think Lamarck is is going to make a come back. How was lamarckisim proved false in your opinion?

I don't have a problem looking like an idiot, I have a problem being one.

Elijah, Internet Infidels 21 Comments [7/10/2007 9:11:45 PM]
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Quote# 27090

In reality we should be amazed that God can create and did create so many life forms with similiarities. To believe we came from an A sexual single celled organism to a organism with reproductive organs for mating is in it's self stupid. Then carring that idea to a fish and plant and later to a creature on land that grew legs. Fish in the sea today still don't have legs as far as we can remember, and last time I check they didn't want to walk on land. But the fairy tale sounds fun to believe. Have a pet fish? Go ahead and throw it out of its fish bow and tell it to walk and breath. Evolution will grab ahold of it right and for survival it will walk. lol Dummiest theories of the world today lay in science. Science can have all the angles it wants to lie. Yes I said lie because the only way out of a lie is the truth. And no self pride loving scientist is going to back down. They'll simple create more oopsie to back old oopsie. Its just that simple.

caseypayne1980, 123 Christian Forums 25 Comments [7/10/2007 9:11:32 PM]
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Quote# 27110

For some reason, I am coming across a heap of women that actually think that they ought to be allowed to vote in church business meetings. They also think they ought to be able to vote against their husbands. This horrifies me. Not only does my church not allow women to vote (the man is the head of the family, his vote is his family's vote) but if it did allow women to vote, I would NEVER vote against my husband as I believe that is usurping his authority. What do you all think?

Katy-Anne, KJBonly 53 Comments [7/10/2007 9:11:29 PM]
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Submitted By: MarylandBear

Quote# 27132

I work in a hospital that pays homage to the acronyms daily. You know, the FDA, the CDC, the USDA. Not to mention BigPharma. My coworker with whom I have many a “debate” still is having a hard time digesting the fact that the word “witchcraft” in Gal5:20 is “pharmakeia” in the Greek. Yep the Pharmacy is no more than a witch’s cauldron. I know you won’t agree, but if you would let your eyes open just a little, the light could get in.

rusosure, CSE blogs 38 Comments [7/10/2007 8:39:52 PM]
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Quote# 27117

[Around and around we go...]

That passage also does not contradict any other scripture. And those who claim it does, have an incorrect interpretation. So instead of looking for scripture to disagree with other scripture, look for scripture to agree with other scripture and your interpretation will be correct.

Heidi, 123 Christian Forums 25 Comments [7/10/2007 8:28:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Ambrielle

Quote# 27120

Interracial marriage/relationships: Dominionists believe that Interracial marriage/relationships contradicts God's Laws, and is indeed unhealthy for Society in general. Dominionists believe that those involved in interracial relationships, should be subject to deportation to another country that accepts such relationships. For those who refuse deportation, Dominionists believe that relocation to Slave/Hard Labor Detention Camps would be appropriate, with Children being allowed to live with their Mothers in such facilities.

Nicholas, Strict Nationalist Christian Dominionism (Yahoo group) 39 Comments [7/10/2007 7:22:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Doctor Whom

Quote# 27114

(on changing the KJV from British spelling to American spelling.)

Now the very worst of this battle of o-u-r vs. o-r comes when dealing with the only begotten Son of God, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The modern day counterfeiters have changed Saviour to Savior. They have given us a six-letter Savior in place of a seven-letter Saviour. In Bible numerics seven is the number of completeness, purity, and spiritual perfection. On the other hand six is the number of man which is earthly not heavenly. Every one has heard of 666. It has a bad connotation and is not highly esteemed in Bible numerics.

The seven-letter Saviour is the only begotten Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The six-letter Savior is the son of perdition, the anti christ. He wants to be like the most High (Isaiah 14:14,) but not in a good way, but in an evil way. He is not a follower. He's a counterfeiter. Therefore his final destination is the lake of fire. The new versions, along with the new age movement, and some of the King James Bible counterfeits are preparing the way for this six-letter so called Savior. That's the way he will spell his name, S-a-v-i-o-r not S-a-v-i-o-u-r. No thank you Satan. I'm sticking with the seven-letter Saviour as portrayed in the old black Book that I inherited from my forefathers.

Brother Nic, Bible Believers 42 Comments [7/10/2007 4:34:58 PM]
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Submitted By: MarylandBear

Quote# 27101

(In response to a gay person saying his love for his boyfriend was beautiful)


Its so beautiful yet you cannot produce children, thus pointless, and not beautiful. Go on and live your life genetic mistake, us normal people will live ours and the rights that we have and that you mistakes do not.

Andrew, Myspace 57 Comments [7/10/2007 4:32:38 PM]
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Quote# 27124

I believe that the USA got so immoral and screwed up in the last 50 odd years because previous generations were fooled by the lies of the Left, like "Separation of Church and State," which is NOT in our US Constitution, and is actually a devilish way of saying "Separation of God from Country!" Do you want that? I don't. Nobody will wish they wanted it about 1 second after we die, when some will end up in Heaven for trusting in Jesus, and the rest will be on fire forever, as the Bible warns.

Bryan E. Leed, Amazon.com Profile 43 Comments [7/10/2007 4:31:22 PM]
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Submitted By: ForensicAtheist

Quote# 27074

[You really should move to England... or maybe India. I bet you'd love to be born into a class system where you can't ever move out of what you've been born into. Gipper the untouchable. That seems about right. Or maybe a toadie in England following some Lord around. Watching him stumble home drunk while you get tossed in jail for crossing the street in the wrong place. It's wonderful to talk so arrogantly until you're the one on the wrong side of that argument. Maybe we should just take those folks that can't remember "I" before "E" except after "C" and make them clean toilets all day.

Why is it those who proclaim themselves to be the most Christian always display the least Christian values?]

You have nothing to add to the conversation so you choose to berape me? How mature. Obviously you cannot argue that there are just some people who do not deserve equal rights.

Gipper, Christian Forums 28 Comments [7/10/2007 3:41:51 PM]
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Quote# 27087

Okay, well, I have a problem.

I can't stop my three year old son from masturbating. He literally won't stop. And it's pretty obvious that's what he's doing, even though he's obviously too young to orgasm. He always tries to take off his clothes, and he'll just sit their touching his penis and making these little cooing sounds. If I can convince him to keep his clothes on, he'll just rub his genitals against a pillow or toy.

He used to do it wherever he felt like it. I told him that that wasn't acceptable behaviour. I'd tell him no, or I'd spank him (not hard.) Well, he's smart enough to have realized that I don't like it, so now he does it sneakliy - in his room when I am not present, for example. I'll come in and he will try to hide it but it's painfully obvious. I seem to be able to keep him from doing it in public but not from doing it in general. He refuses to listen to me and insists on doing it in his room.

I don't know what to do. I am running out of ideas. How do I get it across to him that this is not acceptable behaviour?

ETA: As advised, I wanted to add for those who are confused that this is a religious and a moral issue, not an "omg masturbation is teh ew" issue.

Silentcinema, Livejournal 36 Comments [7/10/2007 3:39:49 PM]
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Quote# 27115

This is a Christian forum, and this is turning into a Catholic forum. That's going to stop, from this point forward I will delete all NEW Catholic threads. If you have nothing else to debate. This site is not for you and ask that you move on!!!!

Atonement, 123 Christian Forums 36 Comments [7/10/2007 3:37:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Ambrielle