FSTDT Quotes for September 2007

Quote# 29412

["Thus, when you enter a tax-payer supported institution, your imposition of your religious "truth" on others must be suspended."]

So likewise tax shouldn't be used for anyone to teach an opinion that isn't scientifically proven, say in an English class that Macbeth is a study of the nature of human evil, as it's unable to be proven scientifically, and therefore an alternative viewpoint that it was written solely to make money and please the King is just as true? Wow, I could have got an A in an essay I got a D in, for disagreeing with the teacher's view (which is linked in with the examiner's view). Basically in my English Literature GCSE I could have written down anything, as long as it was a view on the question, and they should have given me full marks, not a C!

soton si, SubChat 11 Comments [9/30/2007 10:46:20 AM]
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Submitted By: JamesR9

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Quote# 29429

(Da huh?)

["I am attacking God, all gods, anything and everything supernatural, wherever and whenever they have been or will be invented," declares Dr. Dawkins]

It's simply amazing to see the bizarre extremist antics to which atheists are driven by masturbation anxiety.

No NORMAL person spends that much time worrying about people reading the Bible.

HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity, Free Republic 16 Comments [9/30/2007 4:19:34 AM]
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Quote# 29435

Yep. When dealing with some evolutionist fanatics, especially the strongly anti-Christian faction, you are expected to prove every assertion, no matter how obvious, while they sit back watch. If you tell them the sun rises in the east, they ask for a specific scientific, peer-reviewed, published article, with a list of the writer's credentials. Then they make some sneering comment referring to your belief in a flat Earth.

Jim35, Free Republic 39 Comments [9/29/2007 6:16:34 PM]
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Quote# 29410

[False statement. There is no scientific or physical proof. There is a religious belief that he did so, and you are entitled to it."]

I have said that the historicity of Jesus rising from the dead is beyond reasonable doubt, you say "False statement. There is no scientific or physical proof." I never said there was - I said that there was historical proof - if you want, I could write a nice long thesis on here on the subject. I won't now, because I think you'd dogmatically reject it, on faith grounds. You seem to trust in the unproven (and hypocritical) statement that everything must be proven by science and physical things to be true.

soton si, SubChat 30 Comments [9/29/2007 4:11:39 PM]
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Submitted By: JamesR9

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Quote# 29426

The chance of DNA forming is something like 5.324 to the NEGATIVE 123 power. Some number along those lines. Here is where it gets interesting though, mathmaticians believe that if a number is raised to the negative 50 power, it is equal to 0. Thus, your number is way past zero.

Next, evolution claims people have gotten smarter with time, we evolve to become more advanced and smarter. However, look at the pyramids and other ancient structures. They are incredibally precise, and frankly we can not recreate them today, so we have actually become much dumber as time as gone on.

T1tan, CyberNations Forum 81 Comments [9/29/2007 3:11:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Timewarp

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Quote# 29407

[Ad when you prove that there is one, we'll study it (it's not a provable or disprovable thing). As of now, it's purely a conjectural thing. If you choose to believe there is one, by all means believe in it. Public schools do not teach that there is or isn't one - you're free to believe as you like."]

However, public schools, by their sidestepping of the whole issue accidentally imply that there isn't. As for proof, look up the historicity of the resurrection of Jesus Christ - the evidence is fairly conclusive that he did - definitely beyond reasonable doubt. Also it is possible to prove there is a God, however it isn't possible to prove there isn't one, in the same way that it's possible to prove that there is live on other planets, but it's impossible to disprove that. We've had contact - God's sent us the proof: Jesus - it's up to you whether to dogmatically ignore the evidence as it doesn't fit in with your misconceptions or not.

soton si, SubChat 27 Comments [9/29/2007 3:05:52 PM]
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Submitted By: JamesR9

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Quote# 29417

["No it does not. Evolution in no way threatens the idea of a god's existence or not. It doesn't support it, either."]

I know it doesn't do either of those things, however evolution is being taken to extremes and these extremes are being touted as science (causing an uproar and a change in view back to Creationism to 'successfully' fend off the attack). The philosophical brand of evolution (see Dawkins for details) is being treated as science, and does threaten the idea of a god's existence. It's also been used to justify a wide range of things. In effect it is a religion.

soton si, SubChat 14 Comments [9/29/2007 2:09:55 PM]
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Submitted By: JamesR9

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Quote# 29416

I don't seem to favour a mandrassa, I favour a school that teaches facts of importance, like "if you follow Jesus you will not perish eternally", not brushing them under the carpet, like the state schools in both the UK and the US do.

soton si, SubChat 29 Comments [9/29/2007 2:04:36 PM]
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Submitted By: JamesR9

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Quote# 29387

"Some argue that atheism partly stems from a failure to fairly and judiciously consider the facts"

Conservapedia entry, Conservapedia 56 Comments [9/29/2007 11:35:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Rob

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Quote# 29386

That's why I am only going to date my wife after we are married. other than that, it's a nope on dating.

God's Child, CBH Forums 47 Comments [9/29/2007 11:34:18 AM]
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Quote# 29420

Responding to the plight of Buddhists monks in Myanmar...

[Well, they're Buddhists, so who gives a crap? This is
probably God's way of telling them that they're not
worshipping him correctly, just like when the American Indians got killed off - right, Hiram?]

Yoda, I know you are being sarcastic, but I think you have stumbled on to a very valid point. Some times God has to allow these knuckleheads to learn the hard way! Jesus is the only way to God!

Hiram, Talk Beliefs 42 Comments [9/29/2007 11:27:39 AM]
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Quote# 29404

Surely the lack of prayer, etc in schools is actually offensive to believers that their children are taught by state education, that God doesn't matter so we won't teach anything about it.

I'm sure atheists got atheism legally made a religion in the 60s to stop prayers in schools (as it was discriminating them). Now isn't the lack of prayer, etc in schools treating the rights of atheists as more important as Christians, etc, and thus causing the whole thing to go into a catch-22 situation?

soton si, SubChat 37 Comments [9/29/2007 10:13:35 AM]
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Submitted By: JamesR9

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Quote# 29405

Atheism IS a religion, since it puts forth a doctrine as equally inflexible as any other faith. I think it is as foolish to believe there is no God than it is to believe the son of a carpenter and a Jewish teenaged girl was the son of God.

Chris R16/R2730, SubChat 69 Comments [9/29/2007 9:48:19 AM]
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Submitted By: JamesR9

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Quote# 29414

The truth of the Qu'ran and the Book of Mormon fall flat on their faces, when compared with history, especially the BoM. The Quran is harder to show (not least because of it's deliberate lack of historic context, though the traditions and so on that help interpret the Quran, putting in the context, have Mohammed living in a 9th century, not a 7th century context), as most of the people who've debunked the historicity of it, and found that it's just bits taken from other holy books of the area, mixed in with a bit of 9th century propaganda against Christianity and Judaism, haven't published their work, or have gone into hiding to avoid being killed by Muslim extremists.

Hindus and Buddhists would believe in Jesus' resurrection - Hindu's just assimilated him into their religion and treat him as another one of their gods, and Buddists deny some of the facts and change it so that Jesus fits their view that he just reached enlightment.

soton si, SubChat 21 Comments [9/29/2007 9:27:46 AM]
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Submitted By: JamesR9

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Quote# 29388

[Discussing a law that would allow doctors in Britain to not discuss their child's sexual activity with their parents]

Stephen Green of Christian Voice described the guidance as "wicked".

He said: "The idea of using contraception to stop the spread of disease is a dead duck. It will lead to more abortions, more sexual diseases and more infertility."

Stephen Green, Daily Mail.co.uk 30 Comments [9/29/2007 9:21:48 AM]
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Quote# 29390

(blames Atheist for societies problems)

Since ATHEISM has grown through out the world, why has the world been detioriating?
If people are somehow getting away from religion why are things spiraling down?
1. Crime is way up

2. Race relations is detiorating producing more racists and bigots especially with young people

3. Young people in the educational system have no sense of biblical right and wrong are a group provong to be more dis-respectful and rejecting GOD's obedience.

4. Real Estate in a severs slump.

5.People growing cold to one another and feeling a huge seperation from a secular society...

Has Athesim ever proved to bring one good thing to society?

crimmsonandclover, Yahoo! Answers 40 Comments [9/29/2007 9:18:48 AM]
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Quote# 29380

It is important to maintain and press forward with the attack on the stupidity of evolution. It is used to bind so many to worldly wisdom (which isn’t wise) and overthrow the faith of so many.

Soundman, CSE blogs 19 Comments [9/29/2007 9:12:59 AM]
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Quote# 29382

How does one hate something they don't believe exists. Well, obviously they do believe God exists or who the hell are they so angry at?

Chris E., MySpace 42 Comments [9/29/2007 8:48:39 AM]
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Quote# 29377

This is one thing that burns me up this country was founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ our founding fathers founded this for freedom how can on one hand they say freedom of bear arms but not freedom of religion its time we go back to our roots of Christianity in England where i was on a mission trip quite a fews years ago now religion was part of there education. how can we learn about Islam and Muslims but not Christianity that our country was founded on. I think that is where the decline started when God was taken out of schools.

KathrynJanewayChakotay, NarniaFans 35 Comments [9/29/2007 8:47:48 AM]
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Quote# 29389

Ok, atheists- Do you believe there is right and wrong?
Who makes that call? If you believe in Darwin, who taught survival of the fittest, why is it wrong for a man to kill another man if he wants what he has? A lion will kill a gazelle, but we don't set up holocaust museums for gazelles. Yet we do for humans. What man has the right to declare it's not right to steal or kill? Darwinism teaches us that you do what you have to, to survive.

Dawn C, Yahoo! Answers 55 Comments [9/29/2007 8:47:06 AM]
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Quote# 29391

Just the other day as I was driving home, the sun was setting.
Now I have an extremely old car with no window tinting and my car windows are horribly smudged. The sun was blinding me from my rear-view mirrors. I'm still a new driver, so I was horribly uncomfortable and I didn't know what to do. So I finally began to pray for some relief from the sun.
I hadn't even finished my prayer when I suddenly had a wedgie- so I sat up straighter in attempt to fix it, and Ta-dah! I had risen myself from the glare of the sun.
I couldn't stop giggling at myself and the answer I had received. I still can't get over how simple the solution was.

Zokea, Rapture Ready 58 Comments [9/28/2007 9:50:35 PM]
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Quote# 29419

No it's not because of the vaccines. In countries where there are more Christians there should be better health because Christians ought to be following the health and hygiene principles found in the Bible. When the secular world adopted those principles, incidences of disease went down.

Katy-Anne, KJB only 40 Comments [9/28/2007 9:14:54 PM]
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Quote# 29383

[in the comment section of a blog that described some of the whackier beliefs of Hovind and his followers]

Yeah, Kent is in prison just like all those other criminals were sent to prison like: Peter, Paul, Timothy, John, etc...he is in good company I'd say. You may want to take a look at your own salvation and check and see if you are truly a biblical christian. A good barometer to measure it by, is to see how the world likes you. Are you being persecuted, jailed, talked bad about in the worldly newspapers, or the TV news. I think not. What seperates you from the world. They accept you as one of their own. there is little difference between you and the world. Now, Kent is as a different story altogether.

Anonymous, The Baliset Palimpsest 39 Comments [9/28/2007 8:48:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Adrian

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Quote# 29392

["... This could only happen through evolution, ... This means that there must've been a common ancestor that had 24 pairs of chromosomes and that this animal branched into two distinct species."]

By saying this you are denying the omnipotence of God......His unlimited power. God created the heaven and the earth and all that dwell therein. He chose for the chromosomes to be placed as they are within man and within monkeys. Many scientists have studied themselves out of a belief in God. They have laid aside the natural knowledge of God for the un-natural knowledge of the world and its humanistic systems. Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist.

Mrs. Debbie, Teens-4-Christ 44 Comments [9/28/2007 7:27:54 PM]
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Submitted By: David

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Quote# 29370

[Crusader logic from a fundamental Christian]

...I take the long, cynical view. We are doing well, but sooner or later we will be faced with a choice to either remove the REAL source of terrorism-- Islam--- or turn around and go home, merely pretending that the enemy is completely defeated.
Have you been 'reaching the masses?' Making friends? Making allies?

Are they still Muslim? Well then, you're still an infidel-- and you failed. They'll forget your kindness within a generation of your departure, if it takes them that long; that's just human nature, and an ingratitude that Islam exploits quite readily.

We want to defeat Hitler's armies, and leave his propagandist in charge when we leave. Guess how effective that's going to be.

Sooner or later, we will finally be at total war with Islam. Because whether or not we want to declare it, it has already been declared on us. Repeatedly. Daily. In every mosque on earth, from the very first Muslim himself. And we won't escape from it by pretending we're not at war.

RHJunior, Livejournal 28 Comments [9/28/2007 3:18:48 PM]
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