Quote# 39204

Representatives of several pro-family and anti-obscenity groups will be gathering in Washington, DC, next week for a prayer breakfast and formal march to the Department of Justice, where they are seeking action on enforcement of decency laws.

One of the marchers on May 19 will be longtime pornography foe Bill Johnson of the American Decency Association, who feels the past two administrations have not done an effective job of enforcing current law, resulting in a proliferation of hard-core porn.

Bill Johnson & anti-porn marchers, OneNewsNow 29 Comments [5/13/2008 11:00:50 PM]
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Quote# 39212

Abortion (any and all forms) for any reason is something I find to be based in selfishness. In the case of rape and incest it is difficult for the woman to go to full term, however to kill off the child is to say we know better than God. If God does not want the child to be born then a natural miscarriage will occur. For me when talking about the abortion issue, trusting God seems to be completely forgotten about in the conversation. So I like to bring it back into the discussion.

wyldcard6, Gamespot 25 Comments [5/13/2008 11:00:23 PM]
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Quote# 39245

I'll also point out that vestigial organs, even if they are there, are consistent in the Biblical framework and wouldn't prove evolution at all because vestigial means loss of function that used to be there, something we would expect in a fallen world. Evolution needs nascent organs for proof, i.e., an organ that is GAINING a new function. Thus far, not a single example of a nascent organ has been discovered. And odds are, it probably never will be.

ReformedApologian, Youtube 17 Comments [5/13/2008 10:59:31 PM]
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Quote# 39227

Vegetarianism is not what a Christian needs to do.

Jesus said anything can be eaten, if you thank God for it, before hand.

Of course, if you eat meat, there can't be uncooked blood in it.

9: Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Biblereader, 123 Christian Forums 30 Comments [5/13/2008 10:53:33 PM]
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Submitted By: KatAutumn

Quote# 39223

actually I think the problem lies more in the fact that the Bible has withstood countless attacks from people such as yourself for millennia. Considering that simply showing how God's word (the Bible) is false in any sense of the word, then Christianity woud collapse. Evolution however is a state established religion. There are many assumptions within its doctrine. Firstly, the evolution of stars, planets and life. Of course the Evolutionary bishops and preachers would state that evolution doesn't deal with beginnings. Well then all you have left is what evolution states or what it has "evolved" to be defined as. Which slight changes in species over a period of time. Which is what I believe. It is an observed fact. The problem lies in the definition of evolutionism and the assumptions it takes on. Speciation (taken over by evolutionism) is said to have happened faster than what evolution states in the Bible. Look at the animals that were taken upon the ark. From the time of Noah's voyage, to today look at the massive amount of diversity of speciation that has occurred. There are over 4700 different species of cat. That's mostly been done in the last 50 years.

Evolutionism is on it's dying leg.

No real scientist believes that crap nowadays. Just book writers. They use it to sell books and gain fame and fortune. That's as bad as using God for fame and fortune.

S. Rubiks, twistypuzzles.com 25 Comments [5/13/2008 10:53:01 PM]
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Submitted By: BCP

Quote# 39219

[if one had already fornicated with a bf/gf but knows that he/she is not the right one, is it right to break up? or must it be that whoever you lost your virginity to should rightfully become your husband/wife?]

[...] Saying someone is "not the one" is not your place to say, if you have already had sexual relations with the person. You may know that you do not really want to marry X individual, or you do not have "feelings" for this person beyond physical, but there is such a thing as doing what is right even when it hurts.

Remember, "The one" is not a fantastic superhuman floating in the nebula, it is "the one" you marry. Unlike other strange scenarios that can present itself in life, which may require some deep and thorough study of the Bible, your particular situation was actually addressed in the Bible. The solution is provided as well.

It is now your choice whether you will follow that solution.

Dakotasunbeam, Christianity.com Forums 25 Comments [5/13/2008 10:52:32 PM]
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Quote# 39184

(a discussion regarding Jesus {in an Evolution Debate forum}) [**emphasis added**]

"Again, your unbelief and disdain for believers show through. Yes, He died 2,000+ years ago. But you left out the most important part. The part you ABSOLUTELY refuse to believe. The part the oh so intelligent scientific field claims is impossible. The part that is a stumblingblock to the world and people like you. That part is.. He arose the third day and now lives eternal. To forgive YOU and ME of our sins. He defeated death so death would have no claim to us. **You claim you are not afraid of death. If you knew the after life existed you would be VERY afraid.** Yes, it's all faith. You have faith but it's misplaced in science."

Wayne, Topix 15 Comments [5/13/2008 10:51:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Fek'lhr

Quote# 39210

Hey, women, wake up! Face the fact that you are the more vulnerable of the two sexes. Face the fact that your dress, your manner and your behavior can be provocative. Realize that men are not real smart and that they are programmed to respond to sexy women. Sometimes, those men haven't the where-with-all to understand the word, 'no.' Just as everyone should avoid 'occasions of sin,' women should avoid occasions of sexual stupidity.

Continental Soldier, Free Republic 56 Comments [5/13/2008 10:40:45 PM]
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Quote# 39208

Darwin -> Galton -> First International Eugenics Conference.

The ignorance of history [that Darwin contributed to the Holocaust] here is astounding, and frightening, considering the implications of forgetting what actually happened.

Jhud, FaithCommunityNetwork 18 Comments [5/13/2008 10:14:47 PM]
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Submitted By: drekoguk

Quote# 39199

I understand that you don't believe and all and I respect you for that, but how can you see a new born baby and not question for a moment where that baby came from? that is what I don't get about your beliefs. something so innocent and pure has to come from a place that is nothing but innocent and pure. and if you are a parent how can you look into your child's new born eyes and still think that there is no God? you may call this annoying but I call this ignorance on your part. sorry if this offends you but this is just how I feel.

booellis, Yahoo Answers 54 Comments [5/13/2008 8:33:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Zipperback

Quote# 39225

The likes of 'Harry Potter' and books by Stehphen King are little more than demonic influence disguised as 'entertainment'.

Not only have we been bombarded with the devil's 'successful advertising campaign' in the past through vices such as 'sports', 'hobbies', and 'leisure' of ALL sorts. But even reading has been deverted into pleasure. Do you 'reacon' that Paul would have been impressed or would have encouraged the 'reading for pleasure' the likes of stories of 'children that are WITCHES'? The HERO of the story being one that PRACTICES 'witchcraft'? Hmmmm...............

Imagican, 123 Christian Forums 41 Comments [5/13/2008 8:33:33 PM]
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Submitted By: KatAutumn

Quote# 39233

The Bible is the infalible Word of God. I challenge you to give me a verse of contradiction that can't be deduced by an open mind or being read in context.

Spectersparten, Youtube Comments 28 Comments [5/13/2008 8:33:30 PM]
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Submitted By: ChildeofMalkav

Quote# 39207

For Abdel-Qader Ali there is only one regret: that he did not kill his daughter at birth. 'If I had realised then what she would become, I would have killed her the instant her mother delivered her,' he said with no trace of remorse.

...She died a virgin, according to her closest friend Zeinab. Indeed, her 'relationship' with Paul, which began when she worked as a volunteer helping displaced families and he was distributing water, appears to have consisted of snatched conversations over less than four months...

It was her first youthful infatuation and it would be her last. She died on 16 March after her father discovered she had been seen in public talking to Paul, considered to be the enemy, the invader and a Christian. Though her horrified mother, Leila Hussein, called Rand's two brothers, Hassan, 23, and Haydar, 21, to restrain Abdel-Qader as he choked her with his foot on her throat, they joined in. Her shrouded corpse was then tossed into a makeshift grave without ceremony as her uncles spat on it in disgust.

...-Qader, a Shia, says he was released from the police station 'because everyone knows that honour killings sometimes are impossible not to commit'. Chillingly, he said: 'The officers were by my side during all the time I was there, congratulating me on what I had done.'

Abdel-Qader Ali, Guardian UK 65 Comments [5/13/2008 8:33:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 39206

I believe it's the rhythms that do it. Rock originates from black areas of America, which originated from tribal beats used in guess what? The stuff of Psalms 95: witchcraft.
We can't blame the black people for those sounds, but that's what they were used for, originally. It got lost in time.
Art moves people. Some move people in very immodest ways. The way the Africans and African-Americans dance is, sorry to say, immodest, but no more immodest than pagan-style dancing of the West or any pre-Christian civilization. Being moved to move as such are the fruits of demonic entertainment. Gregorian chant is the most modest. Classical music is beautiful, but still too immodest for worship as it inspires the wrong sentiments, for lack of a better word, in people.

There's a psychology of music that Satan, and those oppressed understand and the Christian world, and those misguided by the world, has forgotten. Rock stirs up the passions and it's not for the passion of Christ.

Like I said, though, I can't get it out of my system. It does not inspire godly thoughts and movements of the soul and is thus, disruptive to it. That makes it unhealthy. It's nice if young people are fired up for the Pope and the Church but is it because it was made hip? Is it the lite version of rock? Is it yet another compromise with the way of the world? If the glitz was taken away and Catholics were put into camps, will there be any real substance in their souls when it's not fun to be Catholic? I wonder.

There is no beauty in rock itself. God is the creator of beauty; not ugliness, and thus...well, you can guess. Sometimes Alice Cooper can feel like a good stress reducer, but I only feel comforted by beautiful, innocent-sounding sounds like JMT's light stuff, Gregorian chant and Enya.
Well, I guess, being that she has some songs that would seem to be pagan like "Pax Deorum (I think the song is called, which is like "peace of the gods")", beauty can be deceptive, as used also by Satan (as he was beautiful as an angel and can fake it to deceive), but the point is that God creates beauty and not ugliness and so ugly sounds that move the base passions come from guess who?
It must be faced. This is why the stripping of beauty from our churches and from the designs for new ones was far more serious that should not be overlooked as being not a disaster in that it's still tradition with a small "t" and not a heresy. The devil is smarter than us and finds loopholes. I think he found it with rock bands playing Mass music but Christian rock may, in itself, be a Satanic device and confusion for the soul at even papal visits.

Yeah, you guys can leave here if you don't want to be challenged. You could think objectively, though.

foolishmortal, Catholic Answers Forums 51 Comments [5/13/2008 8:33:16 PM]
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Quote# 39226

[Are you suggesting that sports, hobbies, reading and other leisure activities are Satanic?]

I'm not only suggesting or implying, I am outright stating that sports and other such things as hobbies etc........ are a 'waste' of TIME and effort so far as God is concerned. And the EXTENT to which some 'participate in such' PLAINLY shows outright WORSHIP

Imagican, 123 Christian Forums 31 Comments [5/13/2008 8:32:53 PM]
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Submitted By: KatAutumn

Quote# 39238

Einstein may have been smarter, but Moses was much wiser, realizing that God used Moses to transmit the most important information for man to get along with each other. Otherwise, man would be living like animals-stealing from each other, killing each other, and having sex with everyone and anything and everything. Dennis Prager had the most coherent treatise on this. Without Moses, man would never have progressed much beyond the caveman stage. And people like Gore and Obama would return mankind to the primitive stage by striking down Mosaic Law and restraint and replacing it with just Man’s Law.

LongTimeMILurker, Free Republic 48 Comments [5/13/2008 7:54:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 39221

[Supersport is trying to claim that Richard Dawkins is as unreliable as oral tradition of 'the ancients', the whole back and forth is full of this non-sense.]

...we have no way of confirming what Richard Dawkins has "observed." There are no pictures, videos, procedures, data sets....or anything else. Prove me wrong.

supersport, CARM 27 Comments [5/13/2008 7:47:30 PM]
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Submitted By: jc

Quote# 39198

Frank Salisbury (Readers' Forum, May 1) says that intelligent design is not science. Is there any implication that what is taught in many schools about creation is science? Science is privileged to teach many theories, which, of course, are not proven science. Darwinism is an unproven theory and is really only a story about what might have happened and is considered such by many qualified scientists. Astronomer Robert Jastrow says, "The Bible has been vindicated by the findings of modern science." We have got to stop letting the secular world destroy the only hope we have: God.

Joseph C. Richards, Deseret News 21 Comments [5/13/2008 7:45:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Gadren

Quote# 39228

The Gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Anyone who suggest that the Gospel authors were originally unknown and were later given authors is suggesting that the Gospels were read for about 70 years, circulated, accepted by the church as authoritative throughout the entire Roman Empire, and changed the course of human history before someone finally said, "You know, we really ought to name these books." That just isn't plausible.

BSP, BibleStudyPlanet.com 30 Comments [5/13/2008 7:40:04 PM]
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Submitted By: funky fresh salad

Quote# 39209

I realize that atheists think that a man who's responsible for the torture, agony and deaths of over 50 million people should get off with a slap on the wrist, but that's because guilty people are the biggest cowards of all. They think they should get away with murder. So until you know the harm of even ONE sin, then you're not qualified to judge Hitler's fate any more than a criminal defendant is qualified to judge his own guilt. Even animals know not to bite the hand that feeds them.

Sorry, but atheists know full well what God says about how not to go to hell. And you still spit in his face. So you're asking for it and you'll get it. So hell is indeed fair and just. Even animals know not to bite the hand that feeds them.

Carico, FSTDT.com 56 Comments [5/13/2008 7:20:49 PM]
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Quote# 39185

A massive killer quake in China--proof that there's no God...or fulfillment of Bible prophecy?

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's blog 70 Comments [5/13/2008 7:18:58 PM]
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Quote# 39202

How quickly you forget your Koranic teaching. A Muslim may LIE if in doing so it furthers the process of Islam's goal of becoming the one world religion. I contend that the only reason Barack Hussein Obama has not been harmed by the Muslims or had a fatwa placed on his head, is because Muslim leaders know that he's "fudging" on his being a Christian. He said he wasn't a PRACTICING Muslim. He also said he goes to church to PRAY. NO. NO. NO. Christians go to church to worship. Muslims go to "church" (mosque) to pray. There are just enough subconscious hints in his use of the English language that indicate he is a fairly proficient liar. Not the best liar (Billy Jeff Clinton wins that hands down), but Barack Hussein Obama has been lying about everything ever since he decided he wanted to be a "black" man. He is an ARAB man per documentation in Kenya which lists his father as ARAB (neither black nor any other color or lack hereof).

HighlyOpinionated, Free Republic 36 Comments [5/13/2008 7:15:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 39200

[Reponse to a theistic evolutionist]

The fact that you are asking for secular evidence shows that you have been taken in by the Darwinist lies. If you were a true Christian, you would trust in the Bible by faith and not ask demonic questions that will damn you to hell. Repent, fake Christian. Lukewarm and fake Christians burn in hell, and I am warning you as a brother in Christ to avoid damnation.

Christislord12, Evolved and Rational 35 Comments [5/13/2008 6:54:01 PM]
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Quote# 39186

[I chose not to have children due to my upbringing and because, to this day, I don't think I would have been responsible enough. I would not want to have the affect on a child that my parents had on us, so I chose not to have children. Now is that wrong, or is that being responsible?]

Also respectfully, I think if God leads you to do something then He's perfectly capable of managing your offsprings' number without you having to choose on your own. Either one trusts God and His directions and His desires in all areas of her life or one doesn't. I can't see how it can work both ways. I am sorry I didn't mean to offend you and I might just have misunderstood your reply ..
I am just a little mixed up when people say that God leads them to do this and that, and then they say they chose to not to have children because they want to be responsible. I guess if God really leads them to do something then He'd be perfectly capable to take care of the children issue too. He's the giver of the life and He can freely open and close the womb however it fits to His perfect plan. I am afraid many times we justify our own desire or choice of not having children - with God's higher calling. If there's truly a calling then He'll take care of the rest.

haveandhold, RR 23 Comments [5/13/2008 6:31:30 PM]
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Quote# 39201

When God created everything was very good, but the Fall made sin enter the earth and organisms became bad and corrupted. I am a scientist at AiG, so I know what I am talking about!!!!!!!!!

Creationist, Evolved and Rational 74 Comments [5/13/2008 4:04:15 PM]
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