Quote# 44739

A simple reading of the two texts (Bible and heathen koran) shows that the very nature and way that God interacts with mankind is fundamentally different.

YHWH in the Bible is consistent, firm, and holy. His dealings with mankind are always consistent with who He reveals Himself to be. The "god" of the koran is deceitful, temperamental, prone to changing his mind, petty, while at the same time entirely disinterested in everyone on Earth. Allah changes his mind constantly, often at the whim of his so called "seal of the prophets". It's a very bizarre and strange change in personality, if one believes you go from the Bible to the koran as God's revealed Word.

Basically, the God of the Bible's morals are consistent, perfect, and holy. The god of the koran's morals seem to be no better than a 6th Century desert dweller.

Islam is nothing more than an attempt by Satan to replace Christianity and YHWH. Satan tried to wipe out Christians through the Roman Empire and barbarians for 600 years and badly lost that battle. When it was clear that persecution only swelled the numbers (and eventually lost the Roman Empire), Satan devised a new monotheistic religion to replace it. He then copied that template 1200 years later with Joseph Smith when he revealed Mormonism to him. Mormonism is a more palatable, fine-tuning of Islam, in my opinion, without the bothersome, contradictory revelations required to keep Mohammed legitimate in the eyes of his followers.

God bless.

Watchingthesky, RR 48 Comments [8/12/2008 12:50:37 PM]
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Quote# 44759

[Response to: Sodom, the sin wasn't sodomy. The sin was attempting to rape guests. Big difference.]

the guests were men, read the word. The ones wanting to rape the guests refused LOT'S DAUGHTERS! They only wanted men.

Whitney Oakes, Facebook 49 Comments [8/12/2008 10:01:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 44773

[On the subject of honour killings]

I don't understand how you can make this website in the first place... Many of these women, have gone out and had sex and violated the trust of the family. If you want to be a little slut and go beyond the limits of whats accepted "moral" in your culture don't expect me to have sympathy for you, your own stupidity led to the situation where a normal honorable man had to put himself in a situation he didn't want to in the first place. I don't see how you cannot blame the girl who committed this "cultural crime" but yet be able to blame the person who got rid of her.

Supersymmetry, stophonourkillings 55 Comments [8/12/2008 7:26:30 AM]
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Quote# 44822

[Commenting on a hypnosis file that is intended to make the listener feel as though they are anally penetrated with a strap-on]

Lycia: Satanist / hypnotist agent of the devil Requires you to give up your soul Lycia should be banned from the Warp my mind site. The Soul is God given and off limits in trance.

cndysh, WarpMyMind 41 Comments [8/12/2008 6:44:01 AM]
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Quote# 44756

Why do Jews misintrepret the Old Testament so much?
When the Bible says "Gods created the Heavens and the earth" in the original translation, it is clearly referring to the Trinity. Jewish scholars do not agree with this Christian interpretation.

When the Old Testament mentions how Lucifer fell, it is clearly referring to Satan. Jewish scholars disagree with this interpretation of what Lucifer means.

When the Bible tells the story of Job, it clearly shows that Satan is a bad guy working against God. Jewish scholars disagree with this.

When the Bible clearly says in the Old Testament that the messiah will come from a young woman, the original word clearly meant "virgin", yet Jewish scholars disagree with this.

Why do the Jews get it wrong so many times?

Sports F, Y! Answers 65 Comments [8/12/2008 6:24:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Mike

Quote# 44713

Atheism is the child of ignorance and father of crime.

mohammed, yahoo answers 45 Comments [8/12/2008 6:21:09 AM]
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Submitted By: senorchipotle

Quote# 44737

(What kind of Christian presence have you noticed in schools?)

This is a little outdated, going back to 1999 when I first attended public high school in Texas, but I was very impressed with the public expression of Christianity. Soon I would learn why they call this place the "Bible Belt."
Kids met every morning to pray around the flagpole. There was a Christian Youth Brigade or something to that effect, that met at the school and did charity things and such. The school would announce about their meetings and events during pep rallies.
I even had a couple teachers who refuted what was in our textbooks. They would say such things as, "Now this is what we have to study for the test but we all know it's a bunch of nonsense and remember to read our Bibles."
Things may have changed quite a bit in the last 9 years, but in '99 I was impressed.

HooahWifey, RaptureReady 47 Comments [8/12/2008 6:21:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Smith

Quote# 44821

If you are Christians on this website.
You are not spreading the Word of God on the Websites that you are visting.
You are the ones the give us the bad rep.


Latery I been seeing on History Channel the Bible Code. I think the Bible Code is silly.
But if it's true. So Obama will get Preach by the people in the 2010. Then Anti-Christ will step up from out of nowhere.

DanddoSeri(LoneWolf1984), XC forums 39 Comments [8/12/2008 5:56:54 AM]
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Quote# 44710

(On a thread discussing Hindus)

Physically? I would say they are a potential danger. Militant Hindus have martyred Christians in India for years. Like Muslims, it's really only the fundamentalists who are violent.

Spiritually? Absolutely! Hinduism is seeping into the Church even as we speak! Yoga is a Hindu form of god/goddess worship! Also, many forms of meditation are Hindu in origin.

FaithContender, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [8/12/2008 4:03:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Lou

Quote# 44746

(Quote:
Originally Posted by Salvation View Post
If the world became a theoracy of ANY sort there would be persecution and probably genocide of all those whom disagree with the established religion. Humanity would slip into a new dark age if any one faith took over the world.)


Even though it is a hypothetical, this would seem to be a slippery slope fallacy. How would this result if true Christians (I'm assuming that is what the OP was asking, not just people calling themselves Christian) became the majority in the world, or became the majority of heads of government? What in true Christianity would lead you to believe that it would lead to genocide or a dark age?

Kliska, RaptureReady 60 Comments [8/12/2008 2:27:35 AM]
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Quote# 44809

I have always been happy that my boys enjoy Legos, what a great toy, and never thought to even investigate any new item that they put out, we even ended up on the mailing list and now receive numerous catalogs.


One day I noticed them role playing with their beloved "bionicles" which I thought to be harmless robots, and heard them saying things that sounded just like they were playing with Pokemon (or close enough.) I immediately asked them (while my skin was crawling) where they were getting all those wild ideas from. "It's right here in the book, Mom!" Come to find out, these Bionicles have quite a story to tell, all spelled out in the Lego magazine in a comic strip format, which my boys had been devouring for weeks.
I was upset to find that I was so careless, I not only let that junk into my home, but encouraged it without even checking it out.


The story speaks of "..The Great Spirit Mata Nui descended from the skies like a burning star." "He walked the world and marveled at its beauty and watched over all living things." But he was followed by "..his brother, The Dark Spirit Makuta. Makuta coveted this world and all that his brother had." The "Dark Spirit" cast a spell that made "Mata Nui" fall asleep, now this world (sometimes referred to as an island) is in "Darkness" and in need of rescue. That is where the Bionicles come in, the have been sent by the "Great Beings" to save the world. And of course, these "mighty heroes" are to be equipped with "six Kanohi Masks of Power." "Each mask grants the wearer new power and wisdom."

The "Great Mask" list:

Miru - The great Mask of Levitation (to float and glide on air)
Hau - The Great Mask of Shielding
Kakama - The Great Mask of Speed
Kaukau - The Great Mask of Water (to breath under water)
Pakari - The Great Mask of Strength
Akaku - The Great Mask of X-Ray Vision

Sound familiar?

More masks are being added to this story, and I have not had enough time to research any further. Just annoyed that I didn't see it coming. My boys could make better use of their time.

What really gets me is that these "Bionicles" do not even require much effort to assemble - Lego is promoting new age role playing along with "dumbing down" what used to be an educational toy! (Now they also have a Harry Potter line!)

Warning to Parents: Do not rely on the past reputation of any toy company, check them out!

Robin, Kjos ministries 93 Comments [8/12/2008 2:27:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Kasumi

Quote# 44743

Evolution

As for Evolution , many argue over the link between Humans and Apes

But I say that The argument for Evolution, does not even make it that far.

Lets start at the Beginning

If God didn't create Life

Then what Did?

What is the Origin of Life?

They don't know? That's why Evolution is a Theory

King Crusader, holycrusade.net 39 Comments [8/12/2008 2:20:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Vintersorg

Quote# 44744

Homosexuality is a bondage from satan and Jesus died so that people can be set free from this bondage. Bob Lawson has a good book about spiritual warfare. You need to find a good, sold Christian that knows how to do spiritual warfare and cast out demons. Pray and ask God to send you to someone that will and can help you. He will.

I had this problem and I was set free by the power of Jesus name. Once the demon is cast out you will feel completely different.

something trinity, yahoo answers 51 Comments [8/12/2008 12:05:20 AM]
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Submitted By: senorchipotle

Quote# 44753

I looked through a February 2003 Better Homes and Gardens magazine yesterday and there was an ad for Huggies Supreme diapers with several of these carefully crafted characters.

This ad mainly is for adults who may buy the diapers, but the adult is supposed to learn that your children having contact with these kinds of characters (through watching cartoons on TV at home, etc) is fun and cute and sweet. There probably is also the association of clean and sanitary and nice -- throw away diapers.

The characters look to be wearing cute little blue overalls like toddlers wear. Their bodies are shades of green like aliens. Their eyes are huge and innocent looking like Keene paintings. They have pointed ears and definitely suggest the gargoyle picture. They have noses that look like darling koala bear noses. One of them has old man kind of glasses on the end of his nose like Mr. McGoo. They all have a smile on their lips. The human baby in the middle is laughing and smiling and playing with 7 of these little guys.

There is a small picture of the actual package the diapers come in and it appears as though one of these kinds of characters is on the package too.

So this is a perfect example of this subtle societal demonic manipulation, and it is geared toward adults as well as children.

Jeannon Kralj, Kjos Ministries 55 Comments [8/12/2008 12:00:03 AM]
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Quote# 44726

GLBT is an abomination; an immoral, abnormal behaviour that those who perversion of the natural for purely physical enjoyment will never be considered socially acceptable. They have the same legal rights as every other American citizen. True, they can't marry but a marriage is between a man and a woman so tough. It will never be considered socially acceptable in most of the country and it shouldn't be. Yes, can be promoted and is promoted through the media, TV, movies, magazines, etc. They even stole the rainbow for their symbol- the rainbow was a gift from God given as a promise to never flood the earth again. I don't care if you believe it or not- they took it just to tick off the Christians.

As for "power" other than a voting block we have no more privledges or power than any other person. An atheist has no faith in anything, and therefore no real punishment or reward- no, I wouldn't vote for them either.

As for your "80%" your number is wrong- that many people are 'religious" and that includes all religions, like scientology, astrology, muslim, etc. I am afraid you just dont' know what enough about what you are talking about and had decided to make up "facts and figures."

Jonathan Rogers, Facebook 32 Comments [8/11/2008 9:20:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 44750

My second grader attends a local Christian school. For "movie time", they planned to screen Tarzan, the animated movie. Although I have not seen it, I had a glimpse of it from a free version of a computer video game. The character almost exclusively moves in sensual ways and is very scantily dressed. My objections were countered with "but it's TARZAN; of course he wears only a loin cloth...". But, if a man (un)dressed like a male erotic dancer were to come to my door and ask permission to entertain my 7 y/o daughter by jumping, crouching, and running in front of her for an hour and a half, does anyone think I would say yes? I appreciate your movie review. It is quite deep and I'm certain quite valid. I guess in this case, I'm not that profound. All I cans see from my perspective is that it desensitizes children to lewdness, nudeness and lasciviousness.

Chris Stewart, Kjos Ministries 61 Comments [8/11/2008 9:20:29 PM]
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Quote# 44740

It is a total lie that homosexuals were born that way. The Bible states otherwise. 1 Cor. 6:9 states that homosexuals do not inherit the Kingdom Of God, which means that homosexuals are going to spend eternity burning in Hell. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of the abomination of homosexuality.

George Yurich, Carm 43 Comments [8/11/2008 9:12:48 PM]
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Submitted By: TheJebusfire

Quote# 44752

Your 'prophecies' < Science. Now GTFO.

You just don't get it do you? You hide behind science, how funny! Are you the son of Mr. Spock from Star Trek? I'm laughing at the superior intellect!! Ha, ha, ha!! Save your threats and your GTFO, sonny!!!

Submitters' note: Way to confuse science for science fiction.

filmfans1961, YouTube 32 Comments [8/11/2008 8:40:32 PM]
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Quote# 44747

The Loneliness of the Christian says it all. Lately I've have been trying to express to my husband (unsaved) how it is that I'm feeling a joy in my life that has no words. When people are suicidal they tend to walk through life feeling detached and watching life happen to them. I believe what I've been experiencing is like that only on the other end of the spectrum: Feeling depressed because I can't share this joy with everyone I love. I'm depressed because I'm so happy! It's sick or so I thought. Till I read this. Now I'm not feeling sick but blessed. Different, lonely, and blessed for it. It's the most beautiful pain outside of child birth. In a sense that is exactly what it is. I'm being made new in Him. Bitter-sweetness. Thank you God for putting this message in my path at just the right time. I've been struggling to understand this feeling.

Missy, Kjos Ministries 32 Comments [8/11/2008 8:31:06 PM]
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Quote# 44748

I thought Brother Bear was going to be a good movie because it had a black lead character, but the trailers I've seen for it show a tribal person shapeshifting into a bear. As I've probably told you I used to do shapeshifting, though of course I couldn't turn into a real animal. Shapeshifters or what Rowling calls animagi are called berserkerar, which literally means people who wear bear shirts, and ulfhednar, which literally means people who wear wolf coats, in Norse mythology and religion. Maybe this movie will encourage Generation Z to try shapeshifting. I wonder how they'll like it when they get unwanted visits from animal demons when they try to sleep at night.

AC, Kjos Ministries 71 Comments [8/11/2008 8:30:29 PM]
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Quote# 44771

I agree with your article "Toying With Death" and also with Fabienne's comments (below). Please allow me to briefly explain my own experience with violent video games. I did not come to the Lord (His rescue, not my doing) until age 50. I am now 57. Just prior to that time, both of my sons and I were playing violent video games, specifically "Doom" and "Rise of the Triad." We did, of course, also destroy the games back then. I don't think these games are even around anymore as the so called "graphics" would be too slow and antiquated for the most up-to-date "modern gamer."

Anyway, I remember becoming very expert at these two games and actually "enjoying" how the blood and body parts flew all over the computer screen, especially when making a long range sniper style "kill." I don't mean to sound macabre here but that was the reality of the experience. Also, during the various sequences and levels of the games, music, often with "Satan's beat" (the heavy base beat you hear coming out of many cars going down the road) would be playing in the background. Also you would hear various phrases spoken by the characters which included many swear words and even taking God's name in vain. This was 8 years ago. The games of today, because of computer advancements, must be many times worse by comparison.

Both of these games were positively created for the sole purpose of "training" people how to kill and to do it with no remorse or regret (desensitization) as in the definition of an assassin. It is obvious to me now that Satan is the direct controller behind these games although I doubt that most of the creators of these games are actually aware of that. To them it is simply making a lot of money, also with the same lack of remorse or regret for what they have wrought. The most serious aspect of all of this for me is that even after 8 years or so of having not played these games, and also having received Jesus as my Lord and Saviour, I cannot say that the effects of those games are totally gone. I still have desensitized "knee jerk" reactions at times to news events and other happenings that I can readily say are not a proper Christian response. I always then find myself in a repentant prayer to the Lord. I also ask Him every day, often many times in a day to create in me a clean and a new heart and to make a right spirit in me. I thank God so very much for the gift of His most beloved Son. How so desperately I need His hand upon me, literally moment to moment!

Dennis Monroe, Crossroad Ministries Messages 65 Comments [8/11/2008 8:09:40 PM]
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Submitted By: The Lazy One

Quote# 44791

[in response to a woman who asked about Veggie Tales]

Berit's impression, which is not a researched answer: I have only watched the Veggie Tales a few times, but I remember two concerns. The first one has to do with the talking plants. Today's emphasis on planetary oneness and interconnectedness promotes the pantheistic idea that humans, animals, and plants all equal members of one global bio-family. Giving human characteristics to plants and animals encourages children to accept this unbiblical notion as more normal and compassionate than God’s ways.

Second, the "cool" language of some of the characters seemed rude and disrespectful. Since children tend to enjoy these assertive attitudes and rude messages, they are likely to remember and imitate them. I don't remember the episodes well enough to comment on anything else.

The following letters offer a broader perspective and some positive points. I continue to have reservations. Remember, lessons in good character may be useful, but if these lessons are presented in a context or setting that conflicts with the Biblical world view, they can confuse a child's understanding of both of reality and of Scriptures. This danger may be more serious than the benefit from the repeated reminders of a good habit. However, I can't validate my concerns until I find time to buy and watch a few more of the Veggie Tales videos.

Berit Kjos, Crossroad Ministries 34 Comments [8/11/2008 8:07:24 PM]
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Submitted By: The Lazy One

Quote# 44717

Would you rather trust prayer and your faith, or scientists if there was an asteroid hurtling towards earth?

Answer : If an asteroid killed me, then praise God because I'll be in Heaven with Him.

I Love Jesus, Yahoo Answers 33 Comments [8/11/2008 7:54:43 PM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas

Quote# 44730

[About this video depicting the Flying Spaghetti Monster creating the Universe:]

[My joke comment:] It's more realistic than anything Christians could come up with.

[yomammasai's reply to my comment:] if you beleive in this i hope some day you and all your kind perish in fire and brim stone. fsm i hope he gets burnt.

yomammasai, YouTube 34 Comments [8/11/2008 6:34:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 44700

im not judging. gay people cannot love.

accordingtorobin, gurl.com 50 Comments [8/11/2008 6:14:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Bri