Quote# 85280

Indonesian sharia police are "morally rehabilitating" more than 60 young punk rock fans in Aceh province on Sumatra island, saying the youths are tarnishing the province's image.

Since being arrested at a punk rock concert in the provincial capital Banda Aceh on Saturday night, 59 male and five female punk rock fans have been forced to have their hair cut, bathe in a lake, change clothes and pray.

"We feared that the Islamic sharia law implemented in this province will be tainted by their activities," Banda Aceh deputy mayor Illiza Sa'aduddin Djamal, who ordered the arrests, said.

"We hope that by sending them to rehabilitation they will eventually repent."

Hundreds of Indonesian punk fans came from around the country to attend the concert, organised to raise money for orphans.

Police stormed the venue and arrested fans sporting mohawks, tattoos, tight jeans and chains, who were on Tuesday taken to a nearby town to undergo a 10-day moral rehabilitation camp run by police.

A girl cried as women in headscarves cut her long unruly hair into a short bob, and some of the men groaned as their heads were shaved.

"Why did they arrest us? They haven't given us any reason," said Fauzal, 20.

"We didn't steal anything, we weren't bothering anyone. It's our right to go to a concert."

A 22-year-old man from Medan city who did not want to be named said he feared he would lose his job for staying at the camp for 10 days.

"I've just started with a bank in Medan. I don't even know what to tell them because I don't know why I've been arrested."


Indonesian sharia police, ABC News 68 Comments [12/19/2011 12:05:51 PM]
Fundie Index: 104
Submitted By: Elliott

Quote# 85278

Few people realize the dark spiritual side of acting going all the way back to the Greek theater. The best actors in Greek theater were believed to be literally possessed by the entities they sought to portray on stage. Many occultists, like Aleister Crowley, taught that acting and assuming the role of a particular demon was the fastest way to come into contact with a demonic entity. Many actors and actresses have credited their success to possession by a spirit entity. Robin Williams claimed that when acting he becomes possessed, and that in the past they would have burned him as a witch. New Ager, Shirley McClain, has also admitted spirit possession when acting. Matrix star, Keanu Reeves, states that he attempts to connect with his muse and goes on what he refers to as “demon rides” when acting. Johnny Depp has claimed that he is possessed with a multitude of demons and Denzel Washington claims that he is able to put out such great performances because he gets on his knees and calls on spirits to possess his body and empower him to play a given role. Oprah Winfrey has claimed that she lights candles and then petitions spirits to possess her so that she can better perform as well. “I tried to empty myself and let the spirit of Sethe inhabit me,” admits Winfrey. Director, Jonathon Demme, who directed the movie Beloved, said of Winfrey's performance, “Oprah had explained to me when we originally met that it was her goal and intention to channel the spirit of Margaret Garner...This very infusion of humanity past accounts to a significant degree for Oprah's stunning alchemy, her astonishing abandonment of self in her Beloved performance.”

The evidence for a spiritual reality is overwhelming when one examines the preponderance of evidence found in mass testimonies by those in high places acknowledging influence from spirit entities. Add to this the fact that many of these actors like Oprah Winfrey are leading people into occult teachings that are forbidden by God through books like, The Secret and The New Earth. Sadly, many went away after viewing "The Dark Knight" reveling in Ledger's dark performance as the Joker and never realizing that they themselves may have fallen victim to yet another Hollywood movie glorifying evil.


Good Fight Ministries, Heath Ledger's Darkest Night 50 Comments [12/19/2011 12:02:31 PM]
Fundie Index: 83

Quote# 85272

You whiny, sniveling, little, pusillanimous cowards. You have the audacity to tell us Christians that we are “weak” and that our religion is a “crutch.” You are supposed to be so “courageous”, venturing forth boldly into the existential mystery of being alone, facing with stoicism the nothingness that awaits you at death, priding yourself on your realism and self-reliance. You are a bunch of feeble fakers.

Yes, you are outsiders. Go start your own damn country. This one was started by Christians, you puerile dimwits. It is Christians who established and largely Christians who fought and died to maintain the freedoms you enjoy. And Christians are still the majority. Apparently your vaulted belief system doesn’t equip you to handle being in the minority. That’s interesting, isn’t it? After all, this was and is a societal situation valiantly handled by millions and millions of Christians who suffered — and currently suffer — real oppression, violence, torture, economic deprivation, and cruel deaths. But you have to go through turning off the TV once in a while and so your precious puny feelings are hurt. How delicate and frail your mental architecture is!

You are a pitiful joke. Trembling over the mere mention of God. Running like babies to court because of your brittle feelings. “Oh, but judge, but judge, I saw a cross and I just can’t stand it.” “I heard someone say ‘Merry Christmas’ and it hurt my feelings.” “I just can’t sleep knowing there is a manger scene at the courthouse.” “The sight of the Ten Commandments makes me wet my pants.” Now we see how inadequate and feeble you really are. Rage, therapists say, is the flip side of helplessness. And so we see your rage against religion in the public square for what it is: a product of your own insubstantial internal resources. Go look at yourself in the mirror if you can bear the pathetic, contemptible sight of yourself. Our merest martyr shows you to be a wimp – fourteen-year-old Kizito of Uganda singing hymns while being burned alive. But you, you anemic, lily-livered worms – you quail at pushing the off button on the remote! Hah!


Mary Kochan, Catholic Lane 112 Comments [12/18/2011 9:41:07 AM]
Fundie Index: 137
Submitted By: Reckoner

Quote# 85269

If the most productive time of salvation are the pre-teen years, and if the pre-teen years are the most vulnerable – does it not stand to reason that Satan would fiercely attack this time? Can we not see the overwhelming evidence of this Satanic attack on our children? From the sexual, sensual music of Britney Spears, or Nsync, to the occult and witchcraft of Harry Potter – there is an attack aimed directly at our children. It’s blasting from the TV, the music, the Internet, the peer pressure, the public schools – Satan’s attack literally "seeks" to "devour our children" into every "nook and cranny".

Terry Watkins, King James Bible Believers 61 Comments [12/18/2011 9:39:01 AM]
Fundie Index: 61

Quote# 85256

Lao Tzu, no human is born an "atheist" in any meaningful sense of the word. When a human is born, he has not yet heard of God, so he has not yet asked himself whether God exists or not.

Therefore, no one is born either believing that God does not exist, or believing that he can not know whether God exists or not, or even simply believing that he should not yet decide.

Yes, "atheism" can mean "without belief in a god". But then you could call a rat an atheist, because a rat has never heard of God either. Both a newborn baby and a rat have never heard of God. But it is ridiculous to refer to either as an "atheist".

However, it is correct to refer to an atheist as a "rat". A rat can not be an "atheist", but an atheist can be a "rat".

The Beast of Revelation, Amazon.com forums 76 Comments [12/18/2011 9:33:36 AM]
Fundie Index: 58
Submitted By: emau99

Quote# 85255

You just need to read Genesis 1 to know how the world was created and who created it.

Don't forget there has been a lot of spin by the likes of Hawkings, Dawkins, Attenborough et al, but no one has ever seen any true, validated, peer reviewed science that disproves God's amazing creation.

Whether you choose to believe it or not is totally your choice agreed, but, the facts remain, God created everything including us !

It is only mans arrogance that desires to try and disprove that in the belief that they don't need to be accountable to anyone.

Also don't forget if you believe in Darwinism by default that leads to racism and relevatism, ie; you have your truth and I'll have mine.... - so who are you to judge !

Infowarrior, Sky News 56 Comments [12/18/2011 9:31:53 AM]
Fundie Index: 70

Quote# 85252

[Re. Lowes deciding not to advertise during the show "All-American Muslim" after being pressured by a Christian right group.]

If the Dummycrats can force Lowes, even by extortion with the threat of legislation, to support such an anti-American POS as this Muslim lie, they can force anyone to say or do anything under threat of legal action. If that doesn’t work they just send the military to scoop you off the streets and imprison you for life.

That will spawn a new generation of libtard reality shows like North American Gulag, The Real Housewives of Muhammad, Suicide Bomber Chef, Hollywood Jihadi, Say Yes to the Bomb Vest, Redistribution Pyramid, Deadliest IED, The Amazing Race Across the Border, Tori and Dean and Sharia, American Infidel, Allah Knows Best, on and on.

The alternative is we stop them, NOW, by ballots or bullets.

762x51, Moonbattery 96 Comments [12/16/2011 6:25:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 148

Quote# 85249

While a parent ultimately makes the decision, I think Christians should seriously consider removing their children from public schools. Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God.

Ruiz, BaptistBoard 62 Comments [12/16/2011 6:24:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 107
Submitted By: PT

Quote# 85247

You guys keep bringing up 'population'.

How much of the world spoke English in 1611? yet we believe the AV1611 is meant for everyone.

And for the record, 100% of the world spoke English at one time -- in my opinion.

AV1611VET, christianforums.com 110 Comments [12/16/2011 6:22:50 AM]
Fundie Index: 151

Quote# 85238

It's REEEEEALLY BAD PR to talk about those "other lifestyle choices" when you're attempting to get societal approval of your already morally degenerate lifestyle; why make it worse by admitting that pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia (see sod, I do listen in class), as well as other unmentionable acts are a part of the homosexual lifestyle?

aCultureWarrior, Theology Online 41 Comments [12/16/2011 6:20:45 AM]
Fundie Index: 66
Submitted By: Persephone 66

Quote# 85225

The best thriller is to go on Youtube and watch animations of the Rapture for well over three hours straight. If you do, every train horn, thunder, and other loud sound will make your heart skip.

Acebopata, RR 69 Comments [12/15/2011 4:20:11 AM]
Fundie Index: 62

Quote# 85220

[On why atheists can't join the Masonic Lodge]

The first conclusion is that Atheists are incapable of following God's Moral Law, and they are therefore incapable of meeting on the Square. the most often-quoted example of this comes from James Anderson in his Constitutions of Free-Masons (p. 50): "A Mason is oblig'd, by his Tenure, to obey the moral Law; and if he rightly understands the Art, he will never be a stupid Atheist, nor an irregular Libertine."

[...]

The effect of allowing Atheists entry into Masonry "would be to lessen confidence and weaken friendship, and no obligation would be regarded as binding among men ... Mankind would give way to the most unrestrained, cruel, and base passions of their worst natures. The very foundations of good order would be subverted, and society would soon degenerate into a state of anarchy." (Ernst, p. 69-70)

This is an even more prejudiced view than the view that Atheists cannot be trusted to uphold moral law, though there are connections between them. Anderson's reference to Atheists as "stupid" (meaning base, not of lower intelligence) implies the belief that non-believers are less of men. This, in addition to the aforementioned arguments, makes up the bulk of the arguments opposing the Atheist's admission to the Lodge.

Bro. Joshua L. Rubin, 32°, Pietre-Stones Review of Freemasonry 85 Comments [12/14/2011 12:47:19 PM]
Fundie Index: 62
Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 85218

(This quote originally appeared in an article called "Call Me Names, But Gay Is Not Okay.")

The real problem, as I see it, is the rapid degradation of values and traditions by the so-called liberal influences of nowadays; you regularly see men kissing other men in public, walking holding hands and shamelessly flaunting what are misleadingly termed their “lifestyle” and “sexual preferences”. There could be a few things I could take issue with Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, but his unflinching and unapologetic stance over homosexuals is definitely not among those. Why, only this very month— you’d better believe this—a man, in a homosexual relationship with another man, gave birth to a child…

Homosexuals and their backers will call me names, printable and not, for stating as I have always done my serious reservations about their “lifestyle and sexual preferences”, but quite frankly I don’t give a damn: wrong is wrong! I do pray that some day a bunch of politicians with their heads affixed firmly to their necks will muster the balls to rewrite the constitution of this country, to excise those sections which give licence to men “marrying” other men, and ditto women. Otherwise, at this rate, how soon before some idiot demands to “marry” an animal, and argues that this constitution “allows” it?

Jon Qwelane, Queerty 57 Comments [12/14/2011 12:46:27 PM]
Fundie Index: 76
Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 85215

[L]iberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.

voltOhm, fark.com 63 Comments [12/14/2011 12:32:00 PM]
Fundie Index: 76

Quote# 85213

Sleep paralysis is demonic. Yes, I've read the supposed scientific explanation for it but it is completely ridiculous. Two People sleeping together have had sleep paralysis simultaneously, how do you explain that?

I personally had numerous experiences with it. I have absolutely no doubt it is demonic. Some of my experiences were so crazy that I was totally 'mind blown' even though I mentally know our battle is not with flesh and blood but with demonic principalities and powers. That's why when I know an attack is coming on me I pray in Jesus' name - the King of Kings and Lord of Lords - it stops. Am I surprised? No. Because all authority and power belongs to Jesus and the demons tremble at Him.

I would get into details about my experience but it is not like anyone would believe me unless he/she is true Bible believing Christian who is under the blood of Jesus. Most people on this board are too blinded by scientism and naturalism to accept the source is demonic.

CryToTheAlmighty, IMDB Religion Boards 53 Comments [12/14/2011 12:31:35 PM]
Fundie Index: 86
Submitted By: Dr. Flibble

Quote# 85212

The evidence for creation hasnt been offered to you. You must first reach a level of intelligence that is capable of comprehending it. By the looks of it, you are a LONG ways off. You better just stick to "thinking" nothing explodes into monkey men and let the adults take care of you.

jcsaves316, Yahoo Answers 39 Comments [12/14/2011 12:29:45 PM]
Fundie Index: 76

Quote# 85206

Most people who advocate gay marriage are decent people who simply want everyone treated equally. What they don't realize is that gay marriage is not about extending marriage, it's about destroying marriage.

Critics often point to high divorce rates to show that traditional marriage isn't succeeding. Though it's difficult to find consistent numbers in marriage studies, most agree that 40% of marriages will eventually end in divorce.

However, I fail to understand how pointing to bad behavior justifies more bad behavior. Parents do not want their children learning about the lifestyles of same sex couples. Nor do parents want sex education to include homosexuality. These are just the beginning of cultural changes that would take place if gay marriage is made acceptable.

Critics also point out that many states used to have laws against interracial marriages and that gay marriage is no different. However, even if someone is born with homosexual inclinations and desires, it remains a behavior that can be changed, unlike race.

And if two men or two women should have equal protection to marry, should one man and five women also have that equal protection? What about marrying minors? Or marrying a brother or a sister? What about multiple men marrying each other, or multiple women? Where would the equal protection stop?

The religious left will never accept heterosexual polygamy - it's far too politically incorrect. Once gay marriage becomes acceptable, the religious left will begin making the argument that minors should be allowed to marry whoever they want. NAMBLA and the ACLU have already begun working down this road and you can imagine how much this would destroy the status of marriage in our culture.


J.W. Autem, Politics For Folks 72 Comments [12/14/2011 4:59:18 AM]
Fundie Index: 68

Quote# 85202

The Learning Channel's new show All-American Muslim is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law. The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish.

One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated "I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it." [...]

The first two episodes start off with Muslim youth complaining about non-Muslim Americans’ perception of them as extremists after 911. The show then reports on these youths’ daily, weekly and monthly prayer rituals. Many Imams who are at the head of these prayer rituals believe strongly in Islam and Sharia law. This TLC show clearly failed to connect the dots on this point but then again that appears to be their intent. [...]

Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show. [...]

Florida Family, Florida Family 73 Comments [12/13/2011 4:35:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 72

Quote# 85201

The only way we will ever have equal rights in this country is by getting rid of all the equal rights laws. They are not meant to give equal rights. They are meant to take rights away from one class of people(mainly white, christian males) and give them to another class.

In trying to be fair, our congress implemented the most unfair law known to mankind.

EQAndyBuzz, Free Republic 70 Comments [12/13/2011 4:34:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 110
Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 85140

I gave up on reasoning with women a long time ago. Few women have the capability of reasoning. It's not evolutionarily advantageous for women to be reasonable. .

In fact, it actually hurt them during the early days of our species because youthful naivety would fool a man into thinking a woman was chronologically younger, therefore, more virile. Evolution has decided a long time ago that women aren't meant to be reasoned with.

StaggerLee, Men Going Their Own Way 98 Comments [12/13/2011 2:51:30 AM]
Fundie Index: 92
Submitted By: Balthazar The Wise

Quote# 85084

[An exchange between two FReepers over the notion of moderate Muslims.]

IrishPennant:
Islam is not a religion. It is a DEATH CULT.
And if I had my way, a DEATH SENTENCE!

sand lake bar: Would you be OK executing American Muslims? I mean, is that what you’re implying?

IrishPennant: Define executing?

sand lake bar: Define “death sentence.”

IrishPennant: When one switches the topic from moderate islamist, which there are none, to muslim. I never said death to muslims.

This is America, built on tolerance of religion...built by our Founding Fathers on the difference of religion, as long as that religion believed in the Almighty God...a God of tolerance...yet a God who has time and time again put asunder entire civilizations of those who sought to do harm to other civilizations.

You changed my response about the filthy islamist who believe that all those who don't believe in their version of god must die at their hands, as do the islamists.

An islamist should be considered no different than a communist....oh, wait...we allow commies in this country since the purple lipped SOB took office. I forgot how weak we have become and how quickly we have stopped challenging other God fearing Americans to stand beside us in wanting those who wish to strike down my dear, sweet 14 year old boy in cold blood simply because he does not pray to their version of Allah.

Define "Death Sentence"? I single shot from an M-16 at 500 yards (sorry, I am an 80's Marine) in my day right in the effin' forehead would give me several great wet dreams!!! Yep, that would do.

Play games with your Grandma, who pays no attention when you manipulate the topic...not me. And I warn you...you are already low on ammo.

IrishPennant, Free Republic 59 Comments [12/13/2011 2:09:33 AM]
Fundie Index: 106
Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 85079

You use the word love so loosely. It’s not my job to love the people who pervert God’s laws. It’s not my job to love people who purposefully defile the things that I hold sacred. Whether you or I like it or not hate motivates people. Anger motivates people. And dare I say it? Prejudice motivates people. And therein lies the truth, sometimes hate IS love because love is an eternal thing, not a do something because somebody will feel better right now thing.

God has commanded us to judge others lest we be judged. This is because putting pressure on others actually pushes people to make right choices. Without that anger and judgment, there would be a lot more gays in the world which means a lot more sin going on. I don’t want to be accountable for that.

Gays will argue all day that they can’t change, but that’s not true. You know it, I know it, and every gay out there deep down knows it. There have been countless gay people that have been able to ”straighten” themselves out with therapy, support groups, and more than anything a desire to not be sinners anymore.

You sir, are being a mouthpiece for Satan with what you’ve written. I know you think you’re doing good but it’s my job to stand up and declare when things aren’t right. It’s my job to let you know that your own salvation stands to be lost. You will be responsible for not only what you’ve written but for every person who acts on what you’ve written. And when you get to the next life, you’re going to be a pretty sad camper.

I will stand up and continue to motivate the sinners of this world to change and do right because I actually DO love them and want to see them gain eternal life. If that means hating and hurting a few people to help them for eternity, so be it. I answer to God, not to you and not to queers and not to any of the other people you mentioned.

A friend, Single Dad Laughing 59 Comments [12/13/2011 2:08:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 76

Quote# 85187

the hateful war against christianity is raging on
more and more young americans are becoming :
1 atheist
2 homosexuals
3 liberals
4 evolutionists/blind worshipers of science

the cure for these satanic groups is obvious.
just think about what we do with other hateful criminals, we:
1 put them in prison
2. give them the death penalty

why should atheists go unpunished for their rebellion against god?

Anonymous, FunnyJunk 92 Comments [12/12/2011 4:29:33 AM]
Fundie Index: 154

Quote# 85178

A week ago, a Macy's employee spotted a transgender woman going into the women's dressing room, and decided to stop her and inform her that she wasn't really a woman. The company promptly fired her, but now the employee has enlisted the help of a hatemongering conservative organization and is claiming that Macy's discriminated against her religious beliefs by denying her the right to harass whichever customer she chooses.
On November 30, 27-year-old Natalie Johnson was working at a Macy's in San Antonio when she noticed a teenager shopping with a few friends. She tells KSAT, "I made sure to keep a close eye out on him because he was shopping for women's clothing." You see, despite the fact that the shopper was wearing women's clothing, shopping in the women's section, and wearing makeup, Johnson concluded she was a man. (KSAT is also good at determining what gender people are. While the customer fooled other news outlets into calling her a woman, the station consistently refers to the shopper as "he" in its report.) When Johnson saw the woman go into the women's dressing room, she told her she couldn't enter. "I had to just straight forward tell him, 'You're a man,' and of course that made him, that really got him steamed," said Johnson. The group the shopper was with said she was a woman, and pointed out that Macy's allows people to use the changing room of the gender they associate with.
Johnson says she told a manager, "I've made my choice the other day ... I refuse to comply with this policy." Since she was incapable of complying with company rules, Macy's fired her. Johnson went to the Liberty Counsel, a conservative organization that's called GLBT rights "a radical agenda," then filed a complaint with the federal employment commission. When asked for a response, Macy's said it doesn't "comment on personnel matters," adding, "At Macy's, we recognize and appreciate the diversity of our customers and associates."


Natalie Johnson, jezebel.com 80 Comments [12/12/2011 4:18:05 AM]
Fundie Index: 81
Submitted By: Karen

Quote# 85171

Sodomy should be illegal in the military. (includes bestiality)

It is a disease-causing act—destroys the body—and promotes treating human beings in inhumane ways—even animals don’t engage in the sick behavior. Fisting, Rimming, urinating on faces, is VILE, McCain!!!!! INHUMANE, Mr. McCain!!!!!

The Founding Fathers knew how vile sodomy was (English buggery)—how incompatible it is with Natural Law and God’s Law and Reason and they kicked homosexuals out of the army and forced all that vile behavior in the closet. It was the best decision for our country and created the most Christian and moral military in the history of the world. The vile homosexual Nazis and Japanese and the atheist Russians and Chinese had vile inhumane, brutal militaries.

Judeo/Christian worldview built the most intelligent, prosperous, free people on the face of the earth.

We shouldn’t adopt the sodomy of the Middle East and Samurai and Nazis— Nor can we adopt the behavior of Ancient Greece since they had slavery and, as all sodomites know—women are relegated to second class citizenship and children are used for sexual lust.

We need to outlaw sodomy again. It should be illegal in all societies like the enlightened African nations whom used to have homosexual kings who forced sodomy on their troops, men and boys—killed them if they wouldn’t perform.

Ya...we need that mindset in OUR military, McCain—you vile POS.

Sodomites are pederasts and vile people. All history proves it. Top serial killers were homosexuals who mutilated bodies because sodomizing people destroys respect for the human being-—makes people easy to be brutalized.

Destroys Christian paradigm in our military which is the reason for its greatness. It is unconstitutional to eliminate God from our military since that is the principle standards of our Constitution where Rights come from GOD.

Sodomy is Satan’s standard to destroy morality. There is nothing worse than an immoral military. ALL THE FOUNDERS KNEW THAT and that is why SODOMY was ILLEGAL! McCain is so STUPID (or evil).

savagesusie, Free Republic 95 Comments [12/11/2011 6:08:18 AM]
Fundie Index: 134