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Quote# 99014

Beside's all the arguments. All the same old questions and criticism about religion ( VIRTUALLY ALWAYS DIRECTED TOWARDS WHITE PEOPLE AND CHRISTIANITY, AND FROM THE USUAL SUSPECTS, if you decide to notice ).

Piety and spirituality can't be be taught to people, a lot of it is a natural feeling I believe. Like there is a higher power that understand's everything. I respect it very much, it a moral decision to transcend materialism and hedonism. As much as possible, heh.

A counter balance to some of the... addictive tempting thing's in life, such as many women, power, drugs and money. ( All those thing's Hollywood glamorizes, right )

I've argued and held my own and won against many a fanatical Athiest's, ( ironically, relying on science and some of the new amazing discovery's about the mind and the universe etc. ) who behave as if they have some sort of personal vendetta, like their lives are so terrible. Most of them think evolution explains the beginning and the existence of life. How sad is that, we as human species have no idea how we got started or how the first cells ended up here on Earth. It's one of those thing's I believe we will never fully understand or be able to explain. And here a few of these guy's were thinking the human species knows... Ignorance is bliss! Until it's not.

Darwin explained that life adapts to it's surrounding's, no ****. And over vast period's of time even some small physical adaptions take place, I call them cell adaption or evolution. Never is there any proof that one species has jumped or evolved into another... Period, and trust me they have tried very hard. That's significant when considering the significance or effect of evolution and cell mutation.

Point is it doesn't explain anything about how human's came to be, why we are here or the magic that is everything. Existence instead of nothing.

I don't have a problem with someone being Agnostic at all, I think that's being practical and humble. I just can't stand the rabbid Athiest's.

And don't let those arguing, hypocrite's you seen represent God or religious people. Because they don't. Same goes to those crazy Zionists Christian's in America, they are simply uneducated and mislead.

Uzis, Stormfront.com 30 Comments [1/28/2014 4:16:40 AM]
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Submitted By: HEIL SATAN

Quote# 99008

The UKIP Councillor for Henley on Thames in Oxfordshire has written an odd, homophobic letter to a local newspaper.

David Silvester, who resigned from the Conservative Party over David Cameron’s same-sex marriage policy, has said gay marriage is to blame for Britain's recent spell of bad weather in a letter to The Henley Standard.

He wrote: "Since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods."

Ominously discussing the flooding in his letter to the newspaper Mr Silvester ponders: "Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?"

Expanding on this rather doom-laden suggestion, he launches into an eyebrow-raising tirade, quoting The Bible, and explaining that acts like gay marriage are to blame for storms, disease, pestilence and war.

"The scriptures make it abundantly clear that a Christian nation that abandons its faith and acts contrary to the Gospel (and in naked breach of a coronation oath) will be beset by natural disasters."

He does say he warned the Prime Minister about the gays and their apparent secret agenda to destroy humanity, adding: "I wrote to David Cameron in April 2012 to warn him that disasters would accompany the passage of his same sex marriage Bill.

"But he went ahead despite a 600,000-signature petition by concerned Christians and more than half of his own parliamentary party saying that he should not do so.

"Now, even as Cameron sheds crocodile tears on behalf of destitute flooded homeowners, playing at advocate against the very local councils he has made cash-strapped, it is his fault that large swathes of the nation have been afflicted by storms and floods.

"He has arrogantly acted against the Gospel that once made Britain 'great' and the lesson surely to be learned is that no man or men, however powerful, can mess with Almighty God with impunity and get away with it for everything a nation does is weighed on the scaled of divine approval or disapproval."

David Silvester, Huffington Post 31 Comments [1/28/2014 4:09:55 AM]
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Submitted By: ThroningErmine8

Quote# 99006

Mandatory paternal leave? In other words, it's somehow your employers’ responsibility to provide for your family for six months, while paying other employees to do Mom's and Dad's work, so you don't have to make hard choices. Well, YOU had the kids, not your employers. YOU need to make the choices for your family, not government. If Mom and Dad are both going "stay-at-home" for 6 months, they had better save up at least 6 months’ worth of funds. Who chose to have the kid(s), your employers? What if you have several kids close together - my two are 13 months apart? Employers need to pay for absentee employees who are gone for half a year at a time, once a year, in that case. Should Mom and Dad be given automatic promotions for time away, so they don't lose out on the career end, which accounts for the pay gap? Is any of this FAIR and EQUAL? I could point out more flaws, but I don't think you'll hear me. Men and women are DIFFERENT. We have different roles. We have different responsibilities. And if you want to confuse the two, have the decency to ante up your own funds! Here's a shocker: learning domestic skills and money management has nothing to do with mandatory leave for parents. Countless women of past generations had their kids and then entered the workforce and had satisfying careers. Neither feminists nor your mother invented this. I wish all you JULIAs (Obama video) would stop your crusade to "liberate" me. I'm exhausted and distracted because of people like you, JULIA. I don’t have the ability to think about what I want to do, because I’m so busy paying for the clever schemes of the JULIAs in this country!

JBDestiny, Aish.com 33 Comments [1/27/2014 4:27:18 PM]
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Quote# 98999

Letter from a pastor in Richmond,Va. who is accused of sexually assaulting an 11 year old girl and her 13 year old sister in Texas.

Dear Friend,

It is with a heavy heart that I send you this letter. Those of you who know me, know how difficult it is for me to ask for any type of help for myself. God has allowed me to be a giver my entire Christian life. Being the one asking for help is the hardest thing for me to do, but I know that I must call on my friends for such a time as this.

As you know, I have been going through the most difficult time in my life. With my trial approaching, and the mental burden of possibly not being there for my family, I could definitely use your prayers now more than ever. I know you pray for me and my family already, and we thank you for your continued love, support, and friendship.

I was indicted September 20. Although I do not have a set court date yet, my trial could be just around the corner. The very next day after being indicted, I learned I no longer have a sponsor for my legal team. Someone had previously committed to supporting this endeavor from start to finish, but they have backed out for personal reasons, leaving me on my own to come up with the money. Unfortunately, as of December 10th, me and my family have lost our home and have no income. While I deal with these legal issues, I will not be able to find employment and Sam will have to provide for our family all on her own. I know that God will provide for my family’s daily needs, just as He always has. When it comes to my defense, I need your help.

I’ve been told by my attorney it will take approximately $100,000 to ensure the defense team, along with all travel accommodations to and from Texas. I am humbly asking that you prayerfully consider what God would have you contribute. No amount is too large or too small; every little bit helps.

Below is a website that has been designed specifically for my case. You can donate one time, or go online to give as often as you wish to. Your money will go into an account created specifically for my defense team and travel expenses. There is an attorney and two trustees over the account to ensure the money is used and designated accordingly.

Also below is a mailing address if you would like to mail your donation. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at the email address below and I will respond as quickly as possible. If you woud like me to call you by phone, please leave me your number in the email.

Lastly, if you know of anyone else who you feel would like to participate, please pass this information on.

Please continue to pray for my family. We know that in the end, it is God who is in control. We are trusting Him all the way. He’s never failed us yet, and I know He won’t fail us now.

Thank you so much for your time and consideration, and for being a friend to me and my family.

Jesus Loves You

Pastor G.

Geronimo Aguilar, Richmond Outreach Recovery GRoup 49 Comments [1/27/2014 4:25:47 PM]
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Submitted By: michael3ov

Quote# 98997

I think abortion is murder. How people can say it isn't? I don't know. A lot of people think that I would be pro-life because I am a Christian, but that is not the case. I am pro-life because I think that murdering people who have already been born is wrong, so, I believe that those who have not been born don't deserve to be murdered either. I hate the argument that a fetus is "just a clump of cells" and it "isn't really a human, its a fetus" arguments. My question is then, what is it? It is a human, its not a turtle in that woman's stomach, its not a parasite or anything else; IT IS A LIVING HUMAN BEING I hate that it's called "pro-choice" LOL WHAT ABOUT THE BABIES CHOICE?! He or she certainly did not ask to be murdered. Honestly, I don't know how people can get abortions. I feel that those who do are heartless and cruel. I think abortions are disgusting and should not be legal. No matter what I would never even consider an abortion. I do not care the circumstances (even if I am young, raped or the baby has issues; mental or physical), it is not an option for me. I will face the consequences if I decide to have sex and get pregnant. If I am raped then I will love it just the same if it was a baby that was not born due to rape, you know why? BECAUSE ITS NOT THE BABIES FAULT. You do not punish an innocent baby by murdering it because of your dumb decisions or because of rape

smiling-fantasies, Smile 48 Comments [1/27/2014 4:25:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 98994

As bad as Putin is, I'd take him over the piece of crap in the White House that we have. But, it is fact that most pedophiles are homosexuals with deviant urges. And, if you need to trump up an argument about trying to act as if nobody can know what normal is, then you truly are stupid. If you can't pro-create, then that is a pretty good indicator of what is normal and natural, and what is not in regards to sexual activity. Just because one likes deviant sex doesn't mean any society should normalize it. Homosexuality is a blight on any culture.

CavsFanInNW, CBS Sports 30 Comments [1/27/2014 4:14:51 PM]
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Quote# 98992


The elitists’ push to legalize, and forbid disapproval of, homosexual relations is the most telling evidence of their hostility toward America’s way of life. It is also the key, in principle, to their thus far successful strategy to overthrow America’s historically exceptional government of, by, and for the people; and to restore unchallenged rule by and for the advantage of, the most powerful elitist clique.

The latest case in point is the ruling of U.S. District Judge Terrence C. Kern regarding same-sex marriage, overturning the amendment by which Oklahomans restricted the State’s recognition of marriage to heterosexual couples. Though the decision contained nothing new, both its content and the manner in which it was argued by both sides illustrate the deadly legal chicanery by which the elitist faction means to dissolve the moral, legal and institutional basis for just government, i.e., government aimed at securing the God-endowed unalienable rights of the people.

Nowhere in his judgment does Judge Kern refer to this fundamental purpose of government. This omission is the key to understanding the deadly legalistic deception his decision carries on. So is the fact that he pretends to talk about rights, but ignores the special natural prerogative that gives rise to the institution of marriage.

He pretends to see no rational basis for restricting the legal recognition of marriage to couples that are, in principle, capable of natural procreation. (In principle, means, of course, with respect to their God-endowed nature as human beings, not their incidental circumstances or intentions.) Yet the unalienable right of marriage depends on the special prerogative (natural command or rule of the Creator) of procreation. Members of a same-sex couple cannot humanly procreate with one another in the natural way. So they have no basis on which to claim the right rationally connected with the special prerogative of procreation.

Judge Kern purports to discuss natural procreation, but he omits to discuss its connection with natural right. But he also omits to discuss the fact that the whole people of the United States have a vital interest in the meaning and significance of such actions and activities as human beings are moved by their nature (i.e., the way the Creator made us) to undertake.

But where there is no respect for the authority of the Creator, there is no concept or claim of unalienable right. Where there is no concept or claim of unalienable right, legitimate government is not inherently required to respect it. Where government is not inherently required to respect antecedent, unalienable rights, there is no limit, in rational principle, to the use and abuse of the powers of government.

Alan Keyes, WND 22 Comments [1/27/2014 4:14:39 PM]
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Quote# 98983

You made a wise choice not to talk about the current topic Art:

What happens when homosexuals are allowed to adopt,

as child molestation is very difficult to defend.

That being said: You forgot a very important word in your mockery of Phil Robertson:

"Marry" (as in "marry them before they're 20").

As I told The Mother Hen in another thread:

What was Phil thinking? Girls should go out and experience life. Sleep around, have a few abortions, shack up with a guy or 3, and then if you think you've found the right one, marry him. Of course if that doesn't work out, there is always no fault divorce and you can go your own separate ways with no questions asked.

Sounds like a pretty good alternative to marrying at a younger age, having children, and being faithful to your spouse (and God) for the rest of your life doesn't it Art?

aCultureWarrior , TheologyOnline 42 Comments [1/27/2014 4:21:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Persephone 66

Quote# 98977

Freemasonry is a Jewish Sex Cult
by David J. Stewart

Freemasonry, Judaism, Communism, Kaballah and Mormonism are all Demonic Sex Perverted Cults! Freemasonry and Mormonism are rooted in Jewish Kaballah, an esoteric religion of black magic. Judaism is based upon Kaballah and the Talmud (which permits Jewish priests to have sex with 3-year-old girls). Mormonism is a sex-sicko cult, rooted in Jewish Kaballah. Freemasonry's primary symbol is the square and compass, representative of the male and female sex organs and shows the act of sexual intercourse. Mormonism founder, Joseph Smith was a 33rd degree Freemasonry.

Washington D.C. has been in the news repeatedly for sex-abuse at the White House. Presidents Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr. .. all busted for bringing male escorts into the White House. Even worse were the tragic reports of pederasty, little boys from Nebraska's BOY'S TOWN being flown to Washington D.C. to be sexually molested by Presidents Reagan and Bush Sr. at the White House. All of these men are members of the demonic Bohemian Grove cult in California, a group notorious for homosexuality. Truth is stranger than fiction. The global elite are notorious for pedophilia, child sacrifice and Luciferian worship.

Infamous satanist, Aleister Crowley is the father of First Lady Barbara Bush (wife of President George H. Bush). All of these presidents are also high level Freemasons. Bush Jr. and Sr. are members of the homosexual cult, Skull and Bones. Homosexuality is a common denominator amongst the world elite, as a means of total debasement of all moral consciousness. No one is allowed into the inner group who does not perform acts of homosexuality as rite of initiation. To be born-again into the Order of Death (official name of Skull and Bones), initiates must lay naked in coffins and performs unspeakable sex acts, selling their souls to Satan.

[...]

Hollywood is owned by the Jewish elite. Hollywood is notorious for sexual immorality, homosexual actors and blasphemy against Jesus Christ. The American mainstream newsmedia is also owned and controlled by the Jewish elite. So are all of the social networking websites; including: Google, Facebook, Wikipedia, Yahoo!, MySpace, eBay, and others. These are all Jewish owned, controlled, and censored. Search the internet for "The Jewish hand behind internet." Freemasonry is behind nearly all mainstream religions in America. Zionism is of the Devil. Obama Rothschilds Choice - America's Jewish President.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-Is-Savior.com 72 Comments [1/26/2014 5:13:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 98971

Let's be clear about something, my mission, my purpose in life is to stand against the homosexual movement. Not to persecute or hate gay individuals, but to stand against and defeat the homosexual movement. I will never stop, as long as I draw breath. I will stand against them when they attack the churches. I will stand against them when they attack individuals. I will stand against them in my old age. I will stand against them in sickness and health. They can kill my body, but my spirit will never submit to their tyranny. I will expose their hate and rage. I will expose their persecution of religion. And I will expose their hidden plans. This secret combination has made a powerful foe. This is only the beginning!

Trestin Meachem, Joe. My. God. 53 Comments [1/26/2014 5:08:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus

Quote# 98969

[On the Boy Scouts]

How could they keep any members after that?

Straight parents do not want their straight kids made gay.

The gay groups will tell you "It doesn't work that way" but I have heard enough from formerly gay born-agains that I don't believe it. They all said they were *cultivated* by an older gay person.

Even Danielle Steele discussed it in one of her books - it was a book about a family, one of whom was "cultivated" by an older gay man. Later in the book, he does the same with a younger man.

I don't have kids, and I thank God for it.

In 1992, when I was dating my husband, we agreed "This world is too sick. We can't bring a child into this." That was '92!

Acts5:41, Rapture Ready 59 Comments [1/25/2014 9:17:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Agrippina

Quote# 98957

Some of the dumber skeptics dismiss the biblical Ark as being unable to hold the “millions” of insect species. For one thing, many species are merely a variety of a particular insect kind such as butterflies. Realizing that scientific fact decreases the amount of insects Noah would have had to consider had he needed to do so. Also, Noah would have been smart enough to just take eggs which would greatly lower the amount of cubic feet for insect “housing” had it actually been needed. See addendum #8.

Other, smarter, skeptics will actually read the Bible and think about the scriptural text. A few of them will also read some of the creationist thinking. They will admit that insects were not “flesh” as used in Genesis 6:19 and insects did not have the same type of life (breathing mechanism) as other creatures. So, realizing the “not enough space” argument is bogus, this brand of skeptic falls back on a claim that Genesis 7:21 says that “all flesh” (including that of creeping things) was destroyed. This gets us back to the classification of insects on the same level as other animals. (A little insight into this subject can be obtained from my article “Dragonfly’s Demise” and addendum #1 below.)

The most honest skeptics will argue that insects lacked the ability to survive a worldwide flood.

These more thoughtful scoffers point out that most insects could not survive for a year on floating debris. It’s sad that they are so devoted to attempting to debunk the Bible they close their minds to thinking about how it could have actually happened.

It would not be anti-biblical to allow for some species to not have survived the flood or to have gone extinct shortly thereafter. But, let’s think about the survival of insects.

Some could have survived for long periods in the air streams. This is not the ultimate survival technique, but it could have been helpful initially and the very concept is one that has not been studied extensively.

Many insects could have survived on floating vegetation and animal carcasses. TalkOrigins, the Internet arsenal for evolutionists, claims (http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH511.html) that insects that feed on “animal corpses” would not have survived the Flood. That argument is bogus since it is a well known fact that a corpse floats and there would have been untold numbers of corpses after the Flood. Enough said on that subject.

The same webpage disputes the “vegetation mats” idea. In a short list of insects that could not survive a flood, TalkOrignis lists “dry wood” (sic) termites. I could use evolution “just-so stories” against them, but will just provide some scientific facts and let the reader consider the possibility of drywood termites surviving the Flood.

Can wood be absolutely moisture free? Referring to drywood termites we find, “Unlike the subterranean termite, they do not require any contact with the soil. They live in un decayed wood with a low moisture content.” (http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/termites/wood_destroying_insects.htm)

“Drywood termite colonies develop slowly. The entire colony may take five years or more to mature. Limited space and resources prevent them from even attempting the rapid growth of subterranean colonies.”
(http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/urban/termites/c_cavifrons.htm)

Evolutionists like to describe the wonderful ability of animals to adapt to a new environment. I prefer Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo’s terminology. Dr. Mastropaolo says, “God designed the DNA (and other genetic material) to yield a population with vast variation for each life form. Each individual carries the blueprint for the whole population so that if even one breeding pair survives, the whole population may be reconstituted. It does not matter whether conditions favor big dogs for several decades, then small dogs for several decades, then repeated in any pattern whatsoever, because every dog carries the plan for the entire population.”

Another pertinent scientific fact is that “Hundreds of insect species spend much of their time underwater, where food may be more plentiful.” (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080730155354.htm)

insectman, Insects: Incredible and Inspirational 42 Comments [1/25/2014 9:09:53 AM]
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Quote# 98955

No amount of therorized connomality makes me evolved from primates. If there is a system that works why change it. Henry Ford developed the assembly line for Fords. Does that mean Honda needsa to create a completely diffrent system or just take what works and change what needs changed? Do you realize that the chance for basic life to just happen is so incredibly small scientist say there is no chance? Yes, scientist.. Yes, I know that there is 98% commonality between chimps and humans. But that 2% makes a lot of diffrence. Since there is no way we are going to convince each other other then the beliefs we each have this conversation is over.

Halfadozen, Wired 31 Comments [1/25/2014 9:09:22 AM]
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Quote# 98954

Loony liberals began to destroy our mighty military in the 70s by putting females on warships. In the 2000s it was homosexuals in the barracks. Now it is athiesm trumping anyone else. Women as frontline warriors will finish the job.

insectman, Washington Times 29 Comments [1/25/2014 5:30:58 AM]
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Quote# 98953



So, you cannot name a NP based upon evolutionism. Even if you could, I can show you that it is only in the imagination of the claimant. As I show (with insects) at http://www.insectman.us/articl...
peer reviewed papers based upon evolutionism are meaningless.

There are peer reviewed creation science journals such as http://www.creationresearch.or.... The so-called mainline journals censor anything that deviates from the party line on origins.

If it is relevant that a lot of living scientists believe in
evolution, it is more relevant that the founders of science did not. Nevertheless, beliefs are irrelevant. Things that matter in science (real products, inventions, etc.) have nothing to do with evolutionism. Arguments, such as antibiotic resistance, are
easily answered from the reality of creation science.

Please slowly, with comprehension, reread my above comment about a toothpick as well as the other points.

This is my last post in this thread because evolutionists are all hot air and the Life Science Prize http://www.lifescienceprize.or...
proves it. Endless Internet debate is all you can do. If you or the over 100 evolutionists listed on Dr. Mastropaolo’s website had any science to back up your beliefs, you would have relieved Dr. Mastropaolo of his money just to shut me up.

Your problem is not in your head—it’s in your heart.

Everything in the universe is devolving. That includes you.

Read Romans Chapter 1.


insectman, Examiner 28 Comments [1/25/2014 5:30:46 AM]
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Quote# 98946

I just read this article on the struggles that many conservative Christian pastors are undergoing, with internet pornography: http://www.christianpost.com/news/pornography-and-pastors-103931/

I believe that easy availability of free porn on the internet has lessened the taboos that Americans traditionally had, when taking about perverted sex acts. People who have viewed internet porn, feel hypocritical when they condemn gay marriage.

Porn is a form of prostitution, and prostitution is illegal in 49 out of the 50 states. Why does local law enforcement prosecute pimps, hookers and johns, for street prostitution, but leave out the millions of incidents of prostitution taking place in all 50 states in the form of internet porn.

In the early days of internet porn, internet users had to confirm they were adults, before they could get access to internet porn. There are no such restrictions today.

I view internet porn as a deliberate globalist plot to destroy America. In 2012, the white population in America declined for the first time in history, something that did not even take place during big wars and the great depression. The number of white Americans who died outnumbered the white Americans who were born by 12,400. I suspect internet porn played a major role in that tragedy. http://www.medicaldaily.com/population-white-americans-declining-first-time-ever-what-will-race-look-americas-future-246815

ComtdeMistre, Free Republic 49 Comments [1/24/2014 4:13:32 AM]
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The Heaven's Gate Award

Quote# 98941

This morning I was having a "lie in" with my 10 year old, we were snuggled up in bed and I shared with him a conversation I had with a sweet 5 year old boy at Awana's last night about heaven and what it was like and the little boy said "oh boy I want to die right now." When I told this to my son he sighed and he said "yeah, I'm ready to go home."

Home. This isn't our home. Heaven is our home. For those of us with our names in the Lambs book of life, we are aliens to this earth, one foot in glory and the other here. Waiting.

PaigeWhitley, Rapture Ready 100 Comments [1/24/2014 4:00:31 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 98940

Whoa, thanks for sharing that. I thought I was the only one with a desire to be with Him physically. I had never even thought about Him as being physical till about 6 weeks ago. And I noticed the pleasures and satisfactions of this world began to dim, the more I desire Him.

Readyfreddy?, Rapture Ready 49 Comments [1/24/2014 3:59:45 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 98939

USING EQUAL APPLICATION OF ATHEISTS' MORALITY
When an Atheist states that it is morally acceptable to murder another human or throw an intended knockout punch at someone who is completely innocent, unsuspecting and undeserving, I shake my head in wonder that someone could actually be so heartless. Let's be frank and just call it what it is — evil. Even more amazing, this isn't an isolated incident — those who debate with Atheists or read their comments encounter this disturbing lack of morality all the time.

But, the Atheists' rationale is basically that, if one can get away with it, then it's justified. In some cases how one 'gets away with it' is to pass a law, or to get nine Supreme Court justices to agree. Such is the case with abortion. Other times, the Atheist claims that since a particular word definition is unclear, then their action is justified. "What defines a person?" is what the Atheists ask. That is actually the wrong question. The truthful questions would be "What defines a HUMAN" and "what gives one human the right to take another's life?"

Ultimately, the determinations Atheists make come down to the selfish attitude of the Atheist to do whatever he or she pleases and, unless he is likely to be arrested or prosecuted, there is no certain limitation placed on the individual even to the point of murdering another. This presents the greatest danger to society.

It would apply in the same way to other activities including infanticide, child abuse, incest, rape or cannibalism. Since Atheists cannot even agree among themselves what is morally right or wrong, they claim that "morality is subjective" as if that makes an action acceptable.

But, what would happen if we were to apply the same 'rule' the Atheists use against Atheists as a group rather than say, humans in the womb? How might that look?

Let's try an example to test this premise:

ATHEISTS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO REPRODUCE
All it would take would be to pass legislation to take away the legal ability for Atheists to reproduce. Available technologies could be used to neuter individuals. The argument could be that, by eliminating the chance of Atheists having offspring, society would be at less risk from the harmful effects of a population who claim, quite literally, to be soulless and without spirits.

Supporting evidence shouldn't be hard to find to prop up such an argument and since there are many more citizens who are theists than there are Atheists, by applying the Atheists' "rule" of "majority rule" or "might makes right" (based on Darwinism's concepts) it shouldn't be hard to get a majority vote.

What do you say, Atheists? Should we encourage Congress to create such legislation? Why, or why not?

Atheism Fails, Facebook 51 Comments [1/24/2014 3:59:13 AM]
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Submitted By: What?

Quote# 98938

At the same time, a “former occultist” here got “saved” and began attending an Assembly of God church. He claimed to have been a Rosicrucian who was a courier to the Illuminati in DC. Within a short time, he became associate pastor. Then he began calling anyone who was in ministry who did deliverance, fought the occult or were saved out of the occult. He interviewed them, gathered information. I was one of the last he interviewed, more of an interrogation, and I felt the presence of familiar spirits the whole time he was at my apartment. Days after, he suddenly left, never to be heard of again. The church had several kids who had been molested while he was there, and the youth pastor’s two small children were killed in a freak auto accident. The church was decimated. Another Assembly of God at the same time was driven to failure by direct attack – death threats, finding slaughtered birds at the altar when they opened for Sunday service, and much more. Apparently, they had access to the church before two caretakers moved in. They wanted “their” church back, they said in one phone threat, and they would kill everyone to do it if they had to.

I needed confirmation of all I was learning. I received it through a dear pastoral couple in my association who had a wonderful church in the worst part of DC. Their ministry was wonderfully successful, aided a great deal by a couple that they befriended, grew close to and eventually became right arms to their ministry. Then, everything went wrong and their ministry was under horrible attack on every level.

The pastors cried out to God for answers, and they were stunned when He showed them that their best friends were behind it! Shocked, reluctant, they confronted their friends. They laughed. “We’re Satanists”, they said. “You were our assignment.”


Gregory Reid, Gregory Reid 38 Comments [1/24/2014 3:57:36 AM]
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Quote# 98937

Example: The fall of Christian comedian Mike Warnke, former Satanist and author of mega-seller “Satan Seller.” Months before his downfall through the supposed Christian Cornerstone Magazine. Mike spoke at a sold out concert here in El Paso. Sitting in the audience were three powerful players in the satanic underworld one who flew in all the way from New York and was well-known in the occult underworld. My associates and I knew why they were there: To devise a plan for his demise. And they succeeded – aided, of course, by Mike’s own vulnerabilities in his personal life and testimony, but also by a Church of Satan grotto who was even then offering a video of a “destruction ritual” done on Mike and his ministry. The Cornerstone article was a true triumph for the Dark Side, for it brought down Mike’s ministry overnight. And frankly, it wouldn’t have mattered if Mike’s sins were piled to the heavens or he was a complete fraud. That’s not why they wanted him taken out. They wanted him destroyed because of all the kids he was bringing out of the occult, but mainly because he had the best referral network in the world for victims of the occult and people trying to get out. And in one stroke, it was gone.

Gregory Reid, Gregoyreid.com 27 Comments [1/24/2014 3:57:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony Jiang

Quote# 98936

Example: The fall of evangelist Jimmy Swaggart. One of the most powerful voices in the evangelical world, he was reduced to utter shame after a scandal that shocked the Christian world.

How we all criticized him.

What almost no one knows to this day is that Mr. Swaggart had just before flown to El Paso on a secret mission, where he led the parents of Night Stalker Satanist Richard Ramirez to Jesus. I believe the occult underworld found Mr. Swaggart’s weakness – and set him up – and made him pay


Gregory Reid, Gregoryreid.com 25 Comments [1/24/2014 3:56:52 AM]
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Quote# 98935

That’s one of the aspects of all this no one ever discusses. The satanic underworld is much worse than the mafia in the way they deal with their traitors. You take an oath that if you ever talk, you die – by suicide (preferable) or by them. I have internet sites that tell you how this is done, by people who know how to do it. In addition, all your family is ID’d. They die too. So even if someone goes to prison for a crime carried out on satanic orders, they will likely never talk. A murderer in New Mexico who killed a pastor in cold blood in church was apparently well-connected but took the fall rather than talk. An El Paso schoolteacher-child rapist and satanist hung himself the day before his trial rather than let the details of his life and his connections – which those of us who were involved in the case knew but the public didn’t – go public. An accomplice in a horrendous slaughter of a young woman in Odessa Texas put his head under a pumpjack right after leaving the police station after questioning, where he told the investigators he had been with the other man in custody when the murder took place. He accidentally called the man by his “coven name” in front of the officers, and knew apparently that his life was over, for his cohort was according to him, a high Satanic priest who had done the murder to elevate himself in the priesthood. (The murderer is alive and well, by the way, since the DA ordered him shipped out of state because he didn’t want to deal with this “Satanism crap.”)

Oh, the stories I could tell. Stories that the public has never heard, that the media will never cover. Stories that only those of us who have been on the front lines of the real war against satanic crime can ever tell. I’m sorry most won’t, because most of the original soldiers retired, burned out, were fired, threatened, scared off – and many have died, taking their legacy and their indisputable accounts with them


Gregory Reid, GregoryReid.com 27 Comments [1/24/2014 3:56:33 AM]
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Quote# 98934

Just to recall a basic fact: Intercourse/PIV is always rape, plain and simple.

This is a developed recap from what I’ve been saying in various comments here and there in the last two years or so. as a radfem I’ve always said PIV is rape and I remember being disappointed to discover that so few radical feminists stated it clearly. How can you possibly see it otherwise? Intercourse is the very means through which men oppress us, from which we are not allowed to escape, yet some instances of or PIV and intercourse may be chosen and free? That makes no sense at all.

First, well intercourse is NEVER sex for women. Only men experience rape as sexual and define it as such. Sex for men is the unilateral penetration of their penis into a woman (or anything else replacing and symbolising the female orifice) whether she thinks she wants it or not – which is the definition of rape: that he will to do it anyway and that he uses her and treats her as a receptacle, in all circumstances – it makes no difference to him experiencing it as sexual. That is, at the very least, men use women as useful objects and instruments for penetration, and women are dehumanised by this act. It is an act of violence.

As FCM pointed out some time ago, intercourse is inherently harmful to women and intentionally so, because it causes pregnancy in women. The purpose of men enforcing intercourse regularly (as in, more than once a month) onto women is because it’s the surest way to cause pregnancy and force childbearing against our will, and thereby gain control over our reproductive powers. There is no way to eliminate the pregnancy risk entirely off PIV and the mitigating and harm-reduction practices such as contraception and abortion are inherently harmful, too. Reproductive harms of PIV range from pregnancy to abortion, having to take invasive, or toxic contraception, giving birth, forced child bearing and rearing and all the complications that go with them which may lead up to severe physical and emotional damage, disability, destitution, illness, or death (See factcheckme.wordpress.com for her work on the reproductive harms of PIV, click on the “intercourse series” page or “PIV” in the search bar). If we compare this to even the crappiest online definition of violence: “behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something”. Bingo. It fits: Pregnancy = may hurt, damage or kill. Intercourse = a man using his physical force to penetrate a woman. Intention / purpose of the act of intercourse = to cause pregnancy. PIV is therefore intentional harm / violence. Intentional sexual harm of a man against a woman through penile penetration = RAPE.

Witchwind, radical wind 50 Comments [1/24/2014 3:56:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Ebon

Quote# 98932

Hitler:
-Ended Germany's Super Depression
-Autobahn
-Volkswagon
-Fought against French Opression
-Won Iron Cross for fighting for his country
=Insane Dictator

Obama:
-Cost the U.S. trillions with all his social welfare and healthcare plans despite current economy
-No backbone
-House wants him impeached
-Lied about backing out of Middle East
-Won Nobel Peace Prize Despite doign[sic] nothing
=SAVIOR OF HUMANITY

Langolier91, DeviantArt 57 Comments [1/23/2014 4:52:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Sammettik
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