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Quote# 104575

The whole sodomite agenda is about gaining access to children, gender deception or some perverted agenda. The trans gender lie the right to deceive and violate your fellow human being. When did deceiving or violating your fellow human being become a human right, civil right or equal rights issue . Would it be ok for me to get trans race surgery run around deceive and violate lesbians? Or log onto dating sites claiming to give birth to white children. Its become the in thing for so called transgender to adopt children, log onto dating sites claiming to give birth to adopted children. Most of whom are been horrible violated. Homosexuality is a perverted, predatory and pedophile agenda not a human right or civil rights issue.

Chris Fox, Yahoo News 24 Comments [11/8/2014 8:42:45 AM]
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Quote# 104573

God created sex. God created our sexual desires. Sex is good within the borders of marriage. For those of you who think that God is a killjoy for limiting sex to such a situation, please remember a couple of things: 1) God created sex! How could he be a killjoy? Think about it. The very act about which you are complaining is an act he created. 2) God knows better than you do what will satisfy you. It takes an act of faith to believe this, but it is not too big a step to take. 3) Most married Christian men and women who, like myself, did not have a very successful single life would love to turn back the clocks and do it all over again. And this is not because we are not forgiven . . . we are. It is because we know the intimacy which is lost when you have already given yourself to another. Our advice to you would be to wait. If it is too late, stop and wait. It is never too late to trust God in this matter. As cliché as it may sound, he really does know best. Fornication is really a sin.

C. Michael Patton, Credo House Ministries 20 Comments [11/8/2014 8:42:30 AM]
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Submitted By: ConcernedCultist

Quote# 104572

(originally italicized)
One of the most difficult parts of our ministry is acknowledging what the Word of God says about marriage and divorce. We live in a generation where divorce and remarriage are accepted by society and the church. But it was not always so. Historically, the church upheld what Jesus and Paul preached - if anyone remarried while their spouse was still alive, they committed adultery. It has only been during the last 50 years that the church has relaxed her standards and allowed remarried couples to join the church.
The following story is one couple's response after studying God's word on marriage and divorce. Eric and Kathy have decided they can no longer continue to live as man and wife:


(content of Eric's letter)
Some changes have developed here regarding my relationship with Kathy. You were very gentle about remarriage in your newsletters, but you were right. After reading the Word of God about divorce and remarriage and praying about it, Kathy and I have decided to separate. I am presently working on another place for her to live, realizing that our former spouses still live. That is a major change which I feel the Lord will honor.
It is the dead of winter now and there is no particular place for her to go, but Lord willing there is a house that is coming up for rent in April. I am going to be sleeping in my study and we are working things out from there. It is right brother, and it is what needs to be done. It is very clear from the Word of God.
Another change is that Kathy has decided to put her children back in public school. I am sorry that she has elected to put them back into a state school, but looking at it from a practical standpoint, she has no choice. She has no man. She has no husband.
She needs to be reconciled to her husband - but he is terrible. He is a drinker and has a married woman for his girlfriend. It is just one awful thing after another. Unless he is saved and repents, there is no possibility of reconciliation.
The fact of the matter is that Kathy and I must separate because that is now the revealed will of God. And because we are separating, she cannot educate her children at home because she will probably have to do some work to pay bills in addition to his support payments. Practically speaking, that is what is going to have to happen. That is why claiming residency in Heaven can only work with a husband and a wife properly married and subject to the Lord.
I have done some reading on what the church's position on remarriage has been in the past. Absolutely, almost 99 percent of the time, no church member was ever allowed to remarry while their spouse was still alive, with the one possible exception of "abandonment" under the Westminister Confession of Faith. It has only been within the last fifty years that churches have accepted into membership those who have remarried.
The truth of the matter is that what you have been saying in your newsletters is exactly what the Lord says. If a person is married to another person while their spouse lives, even if they were legally divorced, they are committing adultery. It is as clear as a bell in the Word of God: "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery" Luke 16:18.
When God looks on the situation, He sees a nation of adulterers. And they have justified their adultery under the name of marriage, under the guise of marriage. They are deceiving themselves into thinking that they are not sinning.
I look around and I see what has happened in this country. I see no power of God in any churches. I see no evidence of His movings - even in the most fundamental circles. Could the reason be that most of God's people are living in a condition of adultery?
I attend a church periodically and I would say that over 50 percent of the couples there are remarried. Is it any wonder why going to church becomes just a humdrum religious event? These people are walking in disobedience and the pastors are afraid to preach against this sin because they are going to lose their members. And if they lose their members, they are going to lose their offerings. And if they lose their offerings, then they are out on the street. They will have to go to work. After all, preaching is a job, like any other job. I just see it as one great big vicious cycle - and I am contributing to it in this fashion.
I don't think marriage can work unless it is a first marriage - one husband, one wife and children. When you have another spouse trying to tell these children from another marriage what they need to do, you have a problem. It is just not natural. That is why remarriage is an unnatural state of affairs. In spite of the fact that she is a lovely wife, it cannot work. I see why the apostle Paul said, "better to remain as you are" (1 Corinthians 7:26,27). If you have been divorced, seek not a wife. If you do, you are asking for a whole host of complications that will impair you from being able to do the will of God in other areas.
I think as far as being divorced and not being able to remarry, you have to get your eyes off of self. This is another classic example of the state granting you a privilege that God has forbidden. This shows again that the state is in conflict with the Word of God. By people's lives, they evidence what privileges they want and remarriage is one of those privileges.
I was just reading a book on humanism and one of the things they promote is divorce and remarriage. Humanism is Romanism under the guise of another title. Everything centers in man, begins in man and ends in man.
In your Thanksgiving newsletter, No. 925, I was reading about the lesbian woman. Of course she is in obvious error - but the day is coming when that evil will be looked upon as acceptable behavior. Just as divorce at one time was looked upon as horrid, now it is okay. It is just one thing after another.
In your response to her, you said her brother was on his third marriage. Well, if remarriage is wrong on the third marriage, why would it not be wrong on the second? When does it become wrong? Does it become wrong on the second or the third or the fourth? Remarriage is wrong the second time, while the spouse is yet alive.
The truth is the truth and if we really love the Lord we will do His commandments. If we really love the person we have been living with, we will do what is best for them. That is, we will keep the Lord's commandments, and not be selfish.
Kathy and I were talking, "Well, maybe we should look for the blessing of the Lord." I said, "We don't have to look for anything from God, He has revealed it in His Word. What more do we need?" If it was something like, "Go to Africa and be a missionary," then we would look for certain leadings and evidences of His leading that way. But when it is so obvious and plain that He puts it in His Word, there is no need for any further confirmation.

Christ's servant,
Eric

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(A believer argues, which is also worthy to include)

Paul and Rachel,
Greetings. Just received your newsletter. My heart is troubled to read of the split-up of Kathy and Eric. Your false teaching in this matter of marriage and adultery is bearing its fruit.
In the pure sense, the man with whom a woman first had physical relations is her first "marriage." Your wife, Rachel, if applicable, would need to go back to this man if we followed your argument.
God forgives as we repent. Your false teaching is destroying Godly unions (children and spouses). It promotes public school as women are left alone to fumble in confusion, and the parents' actions turn children away from God as they live with and witness these confused parents.
Unless you publicly repent of this false teaching, please remove us from your mail list.

Carol

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Dear Carol,
You stated that the man with whom a woman first had physical relations is her first "marriage." We disagree. Having sexual intercourse does not make two people married. Marriage involves making a lifetime commitment to each other. When two unmarried people have sexual intercourse, each of them commits the sin of fornication. Fornication is a sin that God will forgive if we repent.
In the Old Testament, if a man lays with a damsel who is a virgin, and not betrothed, and they are found out, the law compelled the man to make her his wife.
If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
The Mosaic law that compelled the couple to marry was an attempt to right a wrong. However, the act of having sexual intercourse did not make them married. They still needed to participate in some form of marriage ceremony.
Jesus taught that a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife until death do they part. If the couple did not make such a lifetime commitment to be joined as one flesh, they were not married.
As far as Kathy enrolling her children in public school, we do not approve. Separating from an ungodly relationship is not an excuse to send the children back to the foreign schools of the state.
Carol, I will not recant the word of God. Therefore, we have removed you from our mailing list as you requested. If you desire to receive further newsletters, please contact us. PR

Embassy of Heaven Church plus followers, Embassy of Heaven 12 Comments [11/8/2014 8:42:20 AM]
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Quote# 104571

The Bible is the basis of our U.S. Constitution! People don't understand that. The Constitution didn't derive from the air. It derived from the Bible. It derived from man's dignity under God. And when you throw that out what you have is what you have in America today. And I don't have to describe what we have in America today. We may as well be living in Sodom and Gomorrah. The Weimar Republic was mild compared to what this country has become.

Michael Savage, Youtube: Right Wing Watch 34 Comments [11/8/2014 8:41:57 AM]
Fundie Index: 15
Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 104566

[On Brittany Maynard's choice to end her life.]

Are you completely insane? Suicide is a very, VERY big no no, as stated in the Bible. Yes, it's between her and God. That doens't mean she's going to heaven. And it doesn't mean we have to support it or legalize it. Are you trying to send people to hell? Do you have any idea what hell is really like? This is nuts. Where does it end? My dog died and I don't feel like living anymore? I stubbed my toe and I don't want to wait for it to heal? You people are nuts.

Adam Edward Welker, MSN.com 26 Comments [11/8/2014 8:41:06 AM]
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Submitted By: KittyKaboom

Quote# 104565

Today on “The 700 Club,” Pat Robertson and his co-host Terry Meeuwsen talked about children born with cleft palate and Down syndrome, the latter of whom Robertson referred to as “mongoloid” children.

“So you see these little children that we call mongoloid, you know, Down syndrome, sweet little children but the back part [of the head] hasn’t formed,” he said. “It’s a deformity, if you have a little girl, can you imagine having a big hole in the mouth?”

Earlier this year, Robertson advised a viewer to be careful against marrying her first cousin since “you don’t want to have some mongoloid child.”

Pat Robertson, Right Wing Watch 22 Comments [11/8/2014 8:41:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104564

Do you know how they judge the age of a fossil? They look at the layer of earth it is found in and then assign an age to the fossil because of the age of that layer of earth. Sounds good until you realize how they determine the age of the layer of earth. Do you know how? By what fossils are found in it!! Wow that is scientific!!

Ralph, Behind the Badge 26 Comments [11/8/2014 8:40:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104560

DON BOYD, MUSICIAN AND PSALMIST, Anointed and Assigned as a Watchmen of the souls of the people errantly calling themselves lesbian and gay WOULD PURSUE DISMISSAL of what is in essence and in truth a RELIGIOUS matter couched of late as a secular deprivation of constitutional rights by the Gay Agenda (of said people errantly identifying and calling themselves lesbian and gay) apostate and rebellious from The Most High GOD and Creator LORD of all the Earth, covetous of the Portion of those marrying and given in marriage in this world, troubled and incited of that Wicked One Lucifer the Devil unto discontent with Divine Constraint their Portion and glorious Calling in this life unto Reward of the Next. (See ¶¶1-19, Don Boyd Affidavit of October 23, 2014.)

Some people errantly identifying and calling themselves lesbian and gay, dissatisfied with the Church refusing to change the Scriptures for assuaging the whim and Portion-envy of said people errantly identifying and calling themselves lesbian and gay, have now of late by hellish Plot turned to the World for circumvention of authority of the Church — but, more truly, to override and overthrow GOD, rather — and for doing so have coalesced — with crooked judges of no discernment to begin with but themselves Sodomites (not to mention, strategically staffed of said people errantly identifying and calling themselves lesbian and gay) AND with the media of no commitment to Truth of the press or objectivity in journalism but themsleves Gomorrahites (not to mention, strategically staffed of said people errantly identifying and calling themselves lesbian and gay) AND with the Black Agenda also having tasted blood and agreed to cry “racism” in all else remaining, themselves still wicked Egyptians never learning but ever-returning to judgment (for always — for allure of gain – absorbing every thing and everybody and his abominations, including said people errantly identifying and calling themselves lesbian and gay) – as did the original rebel Lucifer with one-third of the angels, eternally evicted and now (surreptitiously through late rash of lawsuits “over” gay marriage) likewise seeking those Assigned to Don Boyd.

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Any ratifying of gay “marriage” would compel me to leave off worshipping THE LORD with music and psalms – free exercise of my religion -to assume the life of a protester and wedding crasher.

Don Boyd, Scribd 17 Comments [11/8/2014 8:40:17 AM]
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Quote# 104559

[Reply to Americans United for Separation of Church and State biennial mailout to clergy reminding them that clergy should not endorse candidates for office]

Just so you will know I will be standing in my pulpit and telling my people that the Democratic Party has been taken over by Satanists and telling them that there is no way they can be true to God and the Bible and vote for a Democrat. I will name candidates and tell the truth about each as I see it. I will do so without the least bit if (sic) intimidation by you or the IRS. The only one I fear is God.

Church leader in South Carolina, Wall of Separation 19 Comments [11/8/2014 8:39:52 AM]
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Quote# 104558

[Subsection 1 of Magnolia State Heritage Campaign Initiative 46]

The State of Mississippi hereby acknowledges the fact of her identity as a principally Christian and quintessentially Southern state, in terms of the majority of her population, character, culture, history, and heritage, from 1817 to the present; accordingly, the Holy Bible is acknowledged as a foremost source of her founding principles, inspiration, and virtues; and, accordingly, prayer is acknowledged as a respected, meaningful, and valuable custom of her citizens. The acknowledgments hereby secured shall not be construed to transgress either the national or the state Constitution’s Bill of Rights.

Magnolia State Heritage Campaign, Wall of Separation  14 Comments [11/8/2014 8:39:38 AM]
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Quote# 104557

Secularism’s worldliness will only tolerate Christianity so long as its carnal tranquility is not disturbed or its authority challenged. But let the Christian bring his biblical values to the political arena, and he is immediately denounced as narrow-minded, out of step, behind the times, and a religious bigot.

Christians have become proficient at imitating the gentle Jesus and turning the other cheek. Unless we find the indignant Jesus-for the infringement of liberty by godless secularists-we may lose our freedom, for virtue and righteousness are key components of sustainable freedom.

David Lane, BarbWire 19 Comments [11/8/2014 8:39:34 AM]
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Quote# 104552

Beware of the "Rapture Ready" Forum
This forum is one to avoid

Related article:

A "Christian" Pre-Trib Message Board Run By Satan's Workers. The purpose of this article is to expose some of the ways a large, allegedly Christian Pretrib message board whose aim is to supposedly make believers "Rapture Ready" is being used to undermine and neutralize the faith of Christians rather than build them up in the most holy faith. This particular "Christian" forum is administrated by people who have a satanic agenda. By no means is this the only one; there are many more. The things they do to destroy the faith of Christians and to intimidate real Christians from speaking out for the truth of the Bible is outrageous.

I have watched them for a long time and can see that they have a consistent pattern of promoting ungodly values . They are so intent on this mission that they ridicule, intimidate, and ban anyone who posts documentation to try to counteract their anti-Christian agenda.

Stephen1, Talk jesus 39 Comments [11/7/2014 1:30:48 PM]
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Quote# 104549

(On the subject of the Titanic sinking)

Recall that the designers of the ship claimed that "not even God Himself could sink this ship"...

Suddenly, it dawned on me... I realized that the engineers crossed a line with God with this statement, and that God may have carefully orchestrated these factors in order to prove a point (and I think that he may have arranged to have His creation on full display as part of this as well). I suspect that if they had something else along the lines of "we are confident this ship can handle every incident or accident scenario that has ever occurred, and then some" or something like that, things may have turned out differently... I think it was the direct, personal mocking of God that brought this disaster about.

Railfan727, Rapture Forums 45 Comments [11/7/2014 10:25:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Atavist

Quote# 104546

"Professor" Albert Einstein is the DARLING of the evolutionists and atheists who deny the existence of JEHOVAH....They LOVE to quote him in their books as they seek to overthrown the Genesis account of the creation of the universe!

Prior to Einstein, all real scientists believed in the existence of the luminiferous ether which carried light waves. One of the greatest proponents of the ether was Nikola Tesla—the man who electrified the world.

The "scientific" community panicked when the Michelson-Morey experiment showed no variation in the speed of light due to the supposed rapid movement of the earth around the sun!

That was the reason for the invention of "Professor" Einstein and his theory of relativity which eliminated the ether!!

There is a reason for everything that happens in the universe, and the Michelson-Morley experiment was the reason why Albert Einstein had to be invented.

Jesuits are always found where the Biblical story of the creation of the universe is under attack!

Jesuit priest Georges Lemaître was the originator of the BIG BANG constantly expanding universe.

This theory made the universe so big that it could not possibly orbit the earth in 24 hours.

Here is a quote about this expanding universe from a book by Jesuit priest Lemaître:

The expansion of the universe is a matter of astronomical FACTS interpreted by the theory of relativity, with the help of assumptions as to the homogeneity of space, without which any theory seems to be impossible. I shall not discuss the legitimacy of this interpretation, as I do not know any definite objection made against it and this is not the place; and it is not necessary to give a new popular version of the leading principles of the theory of relativity. I shall rather try to show that the universe MUST be expanding, or rather that the most necessary processes of evolution are contradictory to the view that space is and has always been static. (Lemaître, The Primeval Atom, p. 81).

Galileo (man from Galilee) demoted the earth to just another a planet orbiting the sun.

Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 43 Comments [11/7/2014 4:42:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 104545

Abu Rumaysah: I don't love them as non Muslims, but I desire for them to become Muslim and embrace Islam.

Clarissa Ward: But you love her as your mother?

Abu Rumaysah: She's my mother and she has rights over me, so I have to take care of her. I have to look after her. I have to make sure that, you know, she's protected and secure. So I fulfill my obligations like that.

Clarissa Ward: But do you feel love for her?

Abu Rumaysah: It's not allowed for me to love non-Muslims. So that's something that is a matter of faith.

Clarissa Ward: So do you feel that you are British?

Abu Rumaysah: I identify myself as a Muslim. If I was born in a stable, you know, I'm not going to be a horse. If was born in Nazi Germany, I'm not going to be a Nazi. I mean, this is just an island I was born in.

......

Abu Rumaysah: Ultimately, I want to see every single woman in this country covered from head to toe. I want to the see the hand of the thief cut. I want to see adulterers stoned to death. I want to see Sharia law in Europe. And I want to see it in America as well. I believe our patrols are a means to an end.

Clarissa Ward: The only thing I would say is that in America and in the United Kingdom, we have a system: democracy.

Abu Rumaysah: A backwards one.

Clarissa Ward: But it's a system...

Abu Rumaysah: A barbaric one.

Clarissa Ward: ...that allows the people to choose what they want and allows people freedom.

Abu Rumaysah: So why can't I choose Sharia? When in Rome, overthrow Caesar and commit to Sharia.

Clarissa Ward: In your home, you can do whatever you want?

Abu Rumaysah: But what about in the public? Why can't I tell you to cover up? Am I free to say that?

Clarissa Ward: Because it would be outrageous. Of course, you're not...

Abu Rumaysah: So where's my freedom? Where's my freedom?

Clarissa Ward: You can say it to me, but you...

Abu Rumaysah: Okay. So cover up. Wear the hijab.

Clarissa Ward: That's absurd.

Abu Rumaysah, CBS 31 Comments [11/7/2014 4:36:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 104544

Anjem Choudary: I believe Islam is superior. And will not be surpassed. So I believe that the law of God is much superior to man-made law.

Clarissa Ward: So, in that sense, you believe that Islam and democracy are mutually exclusive? That they can't exist side-by-side?

Anjem Choudary: Allah is the only one to legislate. So, obviously, in that sense it's completely, diametrically opposed. You cannot have man legislating and playing God in Parliament, and at the same time believe that Allah is the only legislator.

Clarissa Ward: You have the freedom to come here today. You have the freedom to speak on television, to worship whichever God you please. But you're advocating a system that essentially would take away all of those freedoms?

Anjem Choudary: Allah created my tongue to speak. I don't have freedom to come here, because Allah created my feet to walk. So I walk, and I speak, and I look, and I hear according to what God says.

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Clarissa Ward: So if a young man, one of your students, comes to you and says, "Should I go and fight in Syria or Iraq," what would you tell them?

Anjem Choudary: Well, they haven't come to me. And if they come to me I'll think about a suitable response. But I'm engaged...

Clarissa Ward: What would you tell them?

Anjem Choudary: I don't deal with hypotheticals.

Clarissa Ward: It's a hypothetical question.

Anjem Choudary: I don't deal with hypotheticals. I deal with reality. You know, I mean, there are many things that could happen, hypothetically. Young men come to me...

Clarissa Ward: Why won't you answer the question?

Anjem Choudary: Because it's a...

Clarissa Ward: It really should be an easy question.

Anjem Choudary: I like to deal with reality. If that happens, you can have another interview with me, and I'll deal with it.

But one week after our interview, Choudary was arrested "on suspicion of being a member of a proscribed or banned organization... and encouraging terrorism." Also rounded up in the raids, was one of his young followers, Abu Rumaysah.

Anjem Choudary, CBS 15 Comments [11/7/2014 4:36:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 104539

Marriage rights for gays is landing in over half our states now and being slammed into school curricula all through the UN Constitutional Common Core Government school curriculum. Now, we are seeing more and more the assaults on anyone of difference — pastors, parents anyone in media who dares have a different opinion.

Regarding Islam…How many times have we heard that we Americans cause Islam to attack us. We persecute them, thus they have to blow us up and behead us. Really? The truth is known by most of us with any size brain, that the Islamic Disneyland of variety groups are mostly murderous. They target anyone of difference, especially Christians and Jews for torture and murder. They do this because they are obeying Muhammad and Allah, not getting revenge because we terrorize them. How many times have I read and printed from their own Koran chapter 9, which gives us infidels 3 choices. 1) Forcibly convert to Islam 2) Submit to their high tax and slavery just so we can live or 3) be executed by them.

How many times has Obama said that ISIS and Al Qaeda are not Islamic when the truth is they are boldly and completely Islamic, obeying the Jihad calling of Muhammad? As usual, the Islamic in your face activist groups play the persecuted/victim card. We are all violating them and their speech. We are to notice nothing and say nothing about Islam rewriting their real history and slamming their religion down our children’s throats through out Common Core school curriculum and the media. Business owners are to have no rights but to submit 100% of the time to the endless rights of Islamic workers who demand a multitude of things while suing if they don’t get their way and playing the martyr to perfection.

Illegal aliens…oh yes that is now hate speech. They are undocumented workers or immigrants…Never mind that they knowingly break our laws, violate our borders, bring in endless diseases, drugs, terrorists and danger to America. With this last planned and orchestrated entourage of 10s of thousands of illegal aliens at the hands of Obama, buses were shipped in the cover of darkness to cities all across America. Cities and schools have been lined with tattoo covered adult criminals, drug dealers and terrorists masquerading as children. Obama has enabled his illegal and criminal group to sore by now defining a child up to age 23.

We are seeing dangerous diseases spread to our children in public schools all across America and some are already dying from these viruses, while Obama and the progressive Democrats scream about their rights. What rights? They shouldn’t be here. Our children are getting sick and dying. Terrorists and cartel members are going back and forth across the border making billions, while we are insulted and told we hate Hispanics, children and poor people. The cherry on top for Obama and the progressive left is a hoped for numb brained voter block.

Do not forget the truth about Islam, the gay agenda and Illegal aliens when you go to vote soon. Most of us don’t want to hurt anyone and their rights, however, we won’t put up with groups rewriting and destroying all our rights, crushing our real history, Judeo/Christian values and Constitution.

Stand up for all your rights and be counted. Vote conservative and with heart. Remember Americans who love God, family, freedom and our Constitution ARE the special class.

Laurie Roth, BarbWire 23 Comments [11/7/2014 4:31:00 AM]
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Quote# 104534

Words of Comfort: Age of the Earth

“If you believe the earth is 6000 years old then you deny science.”

If you believe the earth is millions or billions of years old, you “believe” science. You don’t “know” the age of the earth. You “trust” what you’ve been told by fallible men and fallible dating processes. Your convictions rest entirely on faith.

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's blog 37 Comments [11/7/2014 4:21:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 104532

Though the origin of this date, specifically for the Israelites, can be traced to Moses, the day may well have been chosen by God going back to previous events, as famous Bible chronicler Archbishop Ussher pointed out (the approximate day Adam and Eve sinned, according to Ussher’s calculations, and God’s subsequent covering of their nakedness with animal skins).

It seems no coincidence that cultures all around the world in both present and ancient times have had a holiday when the dead were remembered and animals were sacrificed. We can make a pretty strong argument that this holiday goes back to a time when all the peoples lived together—and then they took this holiday to various parts of the world.

Otherwise, it seems strange and difficult to explain how these cultures developed celebrations that are so similar. This would likely push the true origin of “Halloween” and these other “days of the dead” to the time before the dispersion at Babel (Genesis 11), over 4,200 years ago, after which different early cultures began to vary in its practice.

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Other Christians in the past have recognized this connection. For example, Alfred Rehwinkel, a professor of theology at Concordia Seminary, realized that nations throughout the world had a similar day of the dead, and he directly related this to the Flood of Noah’s day.11 John Urquhart pointed this out as far back as 1931, soon after the holiday of Halloween gained prominence in the United States.12

Due to the many, varied accounts of celebrations of the day of the dead around the world, I would strongly suggest that its origin was a time when people groups were still gathered together or had closer ties. Is the event of Noah’s sacrifice where the day of the dead really originates? It is possible.

It was a time when there was a sacrifice to cover sins and a reminder why death reigns in this sin-cursed world. It was a spiritual time, a time when people remembered that a sudden disaster, the global Flood, took virtually the entire population because of sin. Consider Noah for a moment: he even lost brothers and sisters in the Flood—the grief would have been overwhelming (Genesis 5:30). Halloween’s roots could easily extend this far, but there should be no dogmatism about that being the case.


Bodie Hodge, Answers in Genesis 41 Comments [11/6/2014 4:26:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 104530

neo-Victorianism could work across the aisle

And neo-Victorianism would certainly be my choice. Never mind frumpy clothing, covering up table legs, and banishing sexuality to the marriage bed or the seedy parts of town where nobody respectable would be caught dead ... strict rules for mixed-sex socialization, long, formal courtship, and constant supervision by family would remove a whole lot of the guesswork and fear on both sides. If safety is what is needed, then it would be an interesting irony that the more regulated sexuality becomes, the healthier it would be.

Visceral, Daily Kos 36 Comments [11/6/2014 4:23:45 AM]
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Quote# 104528

While filling in for Bryan Fischer on the "Focal Point" radio program today, guest host Fred Jackson interviewed pastor Robert Jeffress about last night's "I Stand Sunday" event in Houston. Jeffress said he hoped that the event would wake Christians up to the fact that their religion is under attack by Satan and that this nation is well on its way the wholesale persecution of Christians. When Jackson asked why Christians are being attacked in America while there are no similar sorts of attacks against Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, or "Islamics," Jeffress said that it was obviously due to the fact that Satan "has been trying to extinguish the Christian message ever since he inspired Herod to try to kill the Christ child." "There is a spiritual reason why Christianity is uniquely under attack like this," he said, as he and Jackson both hoped that the controversy in Houston will wake Americans up to the fact that "spiritual warfare is very real." Jeffress admitted that the so-called "persecution" of Christians in America is nothing like what is experienced by Christians in other countries, but warned that this nation is still marching down the path toward that same sort of persecution happening here in the very near future. "You start, first of all, by marginalizing Christians," he said, "which Christians are increasingly being marginalized. And then you paint them as extremists, which is what is happening right now. And then once you've succeeded in turning the public's attitude toward Christians as that of being extremists, then it's okay to launch a persecution against them. And I believe that's what's happening right now and I believe we're going to see it increasingly occur"

Robert Jeffress, Right Wing Watch 32 Comments [11/6/2014 4:22:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Giveitaday

Quote# 104527

A new psychological disorder called heterophobia is infecting America. Promoting a heterosexual or traditional family lifestyle is becoming increasingly shamed while criticism of homosexual lifestyle is no longer allowed. Our culture is making it clear that when it comes to sex, only heterosexuality can be ridiculed, especially when it is practiced by men.

I believe we’re only 10-15 years away from when homosexuality or bisexuality will be seen as a superior lifestyle to heterosexuality. We’re already at the stage where homosexual couples are seen as more virtuous than male players (mainstream media criticizes game incessantly, but no such effort has been done on homosexual couples). Any lifestyle choice that involves men wanting to sleep with beautiful, thin women will be linked to misogyny and hate, while lifestyle choices involving men wanting to sleep with other men is seen as progressive and open-minded.

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Heterophobia will be devastating on boys. Impressionable children will be bombarded with messages that guide them into adopting a lifestyle that has no genetic basis within them. And yes, I am saying that gayness is not 100% biological—there is absolutely an environmental component, as there is for all other human behavioral traits. A genetically straight man could be turned gay if raised in an environment that nurtures and encourages his slightest homosexual tendencies, which is what America is doing today. Gender re-education will ensure that even normal heterosexual boys will be softened. Masculinity and staunch heterosexuality will be seen as a nostalgic throwback, unsuitable for modern times.

Evidence of heterophobia can be found in the immense support network that gays can depend on. If you’re a gay boy and are teased in school, the administration will rush to action. There are web sites and toll free numbers to call if you need help. Unless you live in a rural town, you won’t have to go far to receive compassionate support. But how about if you’re a teenage boy who wants to have sex? Tough luck, you privileged freak. You will be brainwashed that consensual sex is possibly rape and flirting is sexual harrasment. They are telling boys now that you can’t touch a girl without her “permission.” The only support you got are guys like me, who are being put on hate lists. If you are growing up gay today, people trip over themselves to help you deal with your issues, but if you’re a straight boy, they’ll teach you harmful propaganda to prevent you from even getting laid. The culture is being successfully changed so that deviant homosexual behavior is accepted and embraced.


Roosh V, Rooshv.com 43 Comments [11/6/2014 4:13:03 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 104522

I trained martial arts when I was young, actively for about five years, and we had some women there. Although we were training a form of karate, a martial art tailor made for small and physically weaker human beings, which should thus be ideal for women, the women there stood no chance in Hell in matches against any of the boys or men there. If they were to hit us we had to let them hit us, or else they would never hit. If they were to block our attacks, we had to hit or kick veeeeery slowly, or else they would stand no chance to block our attacks. In matches, the only thing that ever let them score a hit on one of the guys, was the guys’ reluctance to hit or in other ways hurt women or let women be humiliated in front of others. The male reluctance to hit women, can best be explained to women like this: try to imagine you being asked to hit a child. Would you like that?

When we know that, the claims by – yes – feminist extremists, that women were and perfectly well can be warriors, just like men, is just ridiculous. They can be buried with all the armour and weapons in the world: it doesn’t make them warriors! Any army made up of even a small portion of female warriors would have been butchered in the old days, and today – even though firearms evens the odds out a bit – the females still stand no chance, because they are not even able to carry all the gear they need to the front.

So if you still believe in “Viking Women” and other such nonsense, please take a moment to think. There were no such things. Physics alone rules female warriors out. Biology does too. The female soldiers we have today are – ‘big surprise’ – not front-line soldiers. They work in transport units, in kitchens, in intelligence, in entertainment units, in communication units, and so forth. They don’t have what it takes to be a real soldier.

Varg Vikernes, Thulean Perspective 50 Comments [11/6/2014 4:11:06 AM]
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Submitted By: What?

Quote# 104515

Religion, as defined by the founding fathers is Christianity anything else is considered a cult and that fits Mormonism as it negates the Bible and teaches a different Jesus, just as does the Koran.

G C, Y! answers 34 Comments [11/6/2014 4:08:50 AM]
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Quote# 104510

Conservative columnist and former Reagan administration aide Douglas MacKinnon is out with a new book calling for Southern states to secede…again.

While speaking yesterday with Janet Mefferd about his book, “The Secessionist States of America: The Blueprint for Creating a Traditional Values Country…Now,” MacKinnon called for a movement of states, starting with South Carolina, Georgia and Florida, to establish a new country that will adhere to the Religious Right’s political agenda.

Texas, MacKinnon explained, was not included in his secessionist blueprint because “there have been a number of incursions into Texas and other places from some of the folks in Mexico.”

He added that the South had “seceded legally” and “peacefully” during the Civil War, but greedy Northerners like President Lincoln “waged an illegal war that was in fact not declared against the South after the South basically did what we’re talking about in this book now in terms of peacefully, legally and constitutionally leaving the union.”

After lamenting that “for whatever reason the leaders that we’re picking are deciding not to stand firmly for traditional values,” MacKinnon repeated his view that a new country should be formed, and even proposed an “interim name” for the ultraconservative breakaway nation: “Reagan.”

MacKinnon specifically cited advances in gay rights as a reason for Southern states to leave the U.S. and create a new country. [Emphasis added]

MacKinnon strongly defended the South for its role in what he called “The War Between The States,” saying that Religious Right activists should endorse the secessionist movement as a way to “protect our faith.”

Douglas MacKinnon, Right Wing Watch 61 Comments [11/6/2014 2:14:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar
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