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Quote# 105136

The Two Beasts of the Apocalypse

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The two Beasts of the Apocalypse are two British institutions: the Monarchy and the City of London which coats of arms are described by the angel to John. Crown and UNIcorn in the British monarchy coat of arm, and dragons and TWO horns like a lamb in the City of London coat of arm.

They represent the two powers, political and financial, leading the world to disaster, under the control of the evil.


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In another article (still to come here), mention is made of the number 666 which is simply the number of talents of gold that King Solomon (the number of a man in most versions) asked his people to give him every year for his needs and necessities. This second beast is directly related to the power of money. The mark of the second beast is the credit card and its PIN code. ATMs (automatic money distributors) have all the card reader on the right side (even lefties have to use the right hand on/in which the mark is). The brain's working memory necessary for the use of the PIN code is located in the prefrontal cortex (the mark on/in the forehead ), the word 'on' (the right hand and forehead) indicating that this brand is apart from the human nature.

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17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

This verse speaks of Satan who will come in the body of a human being, that of Prince Harry for the first time in many years. People will wonder about the new behavior Harry in 2018 that signs have already anticipated.

17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

The seven mountains are a figure of speech to describe the most powerful empire in history, passed from kings George to other kings George of this dynasty. Most of the people are looking for a city with seven hills when in fact it is CLEARLY WRITTEN JUST AFTER THAT...

17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

This verse is very clear. The seven heads are kings! No presidents, chancellors, emirs or prime ministers. The common mistake is to think that the 7 kings, or the 10 kings, must exist at the same time, that they must be contemporary. But NOTHING like this is said. The proof? Five kings have fallen into the verse 17:10 above! ON THE CONTRARY, they no longer exist. They belong to the past!

This verse is important to know when the End Times begins.
The five kings George have fallen, from George I to George V. Whoever exists is George VI through his daughter Queen Elizabeth II, the current reigning queen (queens are not counted in this vision since God promised kings in the line of David). That of the king George still to come is Prince Charles. It will rule a very short time (a few months) on the throne.

17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

If the beast in question is among the 7 it is that it is of the same lineage, he is the son of the 7th King George (Prince Charles). This is where we see that Satan will incarnate in the body of Prince Harry (in what is called a walk-in ) that will become the eighth king because the line will be discontinued with the couple William and Kate who will be killed by this eighth king after they will be asked (as the fourth horseman period) to have the authority over a quarter of the world - the Commonwealth being precisely a quarter of the surface of the Earth - like all the British monarchs.

This short time of authority over the Commonwealth will come during the Third World War which will begin in spring 2016. William & Kate will then renounce the privileges due to their rank. But because of their divine powers that they will get soon (for the second seal, in the second period of their ministry, those of the Red Horseman between October 14, 2014 and March 30, 2015) they will be called in the Western world to counter the invasion from the Eastern Europe. And of course, Christ will fight the Antichrist! It will be the nephew (Prince George) against his uncle (Prince Harry).

17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Again, it is clearly stated that the 10 horns are 10 kings. And nothing else! These 10 kings are those of the British monarchy, which began with the Act of Union and George I. But note the subtlety. How is it that these 10 kings have not yet received a kingdom as they receive authority as kings one hour with the beast? Although strange situation!

The key is that the 10 horns (the unicorn in the coat of arm) belong to the red dragon of Wales corresponding to the status of Princes of Wales, FUTURE KINGS of UK. So, technically, as a red dragon, these princes have not yet any realm. But when they are kings, they reign for one hour. What is it this time? What is the Beast?

The Beast, the first, is simply the British monarchy which has meaning only with its kings (and queens). The hour of this verse is the Hour of God whose day is not made of 24 hours but 60 hours as the Sumerian tradition prescribes since 60 was the mathematical basis of the Sumerian gods (hence 60 minutes and 60 seconds). As a day of God equal to 1000 years, an hour of God equal to 1000: 60 = 16,666 (16.7). But 16,9 years is precisely the average time of reign of the 10 (not 7 George) British monarchs! Note also that the kingdom of UK has 16 nations and territories.

17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and authority to the beast.

The two beasts give full power to Harry, aka Satan, in 2018, after the death of William & Kate!

ChristExtra, Godlike Productions 34 Comments [12/8/2014 3:56:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 105133

Richard Dawkins is an eloquent deceiver who talks with a forked tongue. He told Bill Moyers, “Evolution has been observed. It’s just that it hasn’t been observed while it’s happening.” He likens its “observation” to a murder case:

“It is rather like a detective coming on a murder after the scene. And you… the detective hasn’t actually seen the murder take place, of course. But what you do see is a massive clue….Circumstantial evidence, but masses of circumstantial evidence. Huge quantities of circumstantial evidence.”

Like all believers in evolution, he has huge quantities, massive clues, and mountains of evidence. But like Professor Craig Stanford (who said the same thing in “Evolution vs God”), he can’t think of even one example of observable Darwinian evolution. If he had one he would have given it to debunk the movie. Instead, Dawkins tweeted five times about it behind the safety of closed doors. This is because his circumstantial evidence didn’t happen yesterday, or last week, or last month, last year, 100 years ago (when the evidence would be old and cold), or even 1,000 years ago. It supposedly happened 60 million years ago.

Nothing about Darwinian evolution (as Dawkins likes to call it) can be observed or tested. His convictions rest on nothing but blind faith. He is a charlatan, and you only have to watch www.evolutionVsGod.com to see that what he is selling is nothing but snake oil. Somehow, that’s appropriate for a deceiver with a forked tongue.

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's blog 51 Comments [12/7/2014 5:28:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 105132

["How do you figure it's loving at all for Jesus to kill people? That's murder, and murder is never loving."]

Murder is when someone is killed unjustly. Revelation 19 is a whole bunch of perfectly just capital punishment.

Timothy Dukeman, Deeper than Sound-Bites 30 Comments [12/7/2014 5:28:26 AM]
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Quote# 105130

A chimpanzee is not entitled to the same rights as people and does not have be freed from captivity by its owner, a US court has ruled.

The appeals court in New York state said caged chimpanzee Tommy could not be recognised as a "legal person" as it "cannot bear any legal duties".

The Nonhuman Rights Project had argued that chimps who had such similar characteristics to the humans deserved basic rights, including freedom.

The rights group said it would appeal.

Nonhuman Rights Project, BBC News 33 Comments [12/7/2014 5:28:15 AM]
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Quote# 105128

The Return of Christ in an Alien Spaceship

ACTS 1:9-11
After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

These verses evoke the Ministry of Christ after his return, not the return himself! The alien ships come and go between materially and spiritually. They materialize and dematerialize. That is why the world of the dead is not unknown to ETs / Angels, on the contrary, since they can meet them.

The return of Christ (that is the purpose of his return) is related to what is called The Lord's Day. This day is actually, IN THE BIBLE, the day of the Rapture, or ASCENSION!

When Jesus said that everything is done he talks about his ministry 2000 years ago!

Seeking truth further, I wanted to immerse myself in the texts by reading them in terms of a UFO version of the History ... RESPECTING THE CONTEXT OF VERSES!

Reading deeply the texts, I understood how things were expressed, and why they were expressed in the context in question. When Jesus Christ said 'friends instead of servants, the smallest is greater than me', he expresses the idea that AFTER the End Times, ONCE IN THE KINGDOM OF THE NEW JERUSALEM, then the servants become friends, and the smallest, when he speaks, will become greater than him, at the moment he speaks!

In other words, everyone and everyone's status must change, including himself. His statements should therefore be understood in the context. If we forget to describe the context of the New Jerusalem, the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, then we make mistakes. But before this New Jerusalem, ESTABLISHED ON EARTH, physically and precisely described at the end of the Book of Revelation (this is a cube-shaped vessel of 2200 kms each side) will come the End Times.

The End Times last long enough (2013-2043). It consists of many dramatic events that the seven Seals, the seven Trumpets (content of the seventh seal) and the seven Bowls (the 7 Bowls are also the 7 Trumpets) describe. Clearly, there will be a huge cleansing of the Earth in order to accommodate the Elects back to Earth, having been preserved on another planet or in huge mothership.

Jesus clearly speaks of a SELECTION of individuals based on their thoughts and actions. He will come as commander of the army of God's angels, that is to say an army of benevolent aliens. This selection will allow the candidates for this selection to be protected and nurtured by God, out of the reach of the deadliest dramas of the End Times.

Since this is about joining Christ in the CLOUDS, in mid-air, Jesus Christ therefore talks about a massive abduction operation of the Elect. Since they are fed by God, then these individuals will be TAUGHT (the food of God being spiritual). Then they will be at a better stage than Jesus 2000 years earlier. Note that you should not confuse these 'Elected' Great Multitude in white robes with the 144,000 Elect!

These were all Jews of Jesus' time, now reincarnated everywhere on the planet, and now without being necessarily Jews. These are the 144,000 that will be entrusted the governance of the New Jerusalem. They will receive one of the 7 rewards described in Chapters 1, 2 and 3, according to the personal sacrifices that they have accepted, which are clearly progressive in terms of these commitments for the coming of the Kingdom of God ON EARTH (the New Jerusalem down to earth) that Jesus Christ will rule first as King of kings.

The highest of these seven rewards is to sit on the throne of Christ with Him! But the Elect of the first group, called the Great Multitude in White Robes, are not called to govern, but to be protected and nourished by God that is to say, as a 'simple' citizens of the New Jerusalem. The 144 000 will be raptured in 2015. The Great Multitude in White Robes will be raptured in 2021 for a few weeks in summer, AFTER the reign of the Antichrist.

But the road is not finished yet. Once in the New Jerusalem, the Elect will live 1,000 years without the influence of Satan (Head of the malicious ETs) that will be emprisoned in this interval. After these 1000 years, these Great Multitude (excluding therefore the 144,000) will be JUDGED for the thoughts and deeds they will be fully responsible of, since not subject to the control / influence of the devil.

It is only when chosen by God after these 1,000 years that those of the Great Multitude become Christs themselves! As you can see, it won't be easy to reach the status of Christ.

The End Times will see the return of Christ in two stages:

1) Birth of Christ: 2013 / 2014.

2) Ministry of Christ: RAPTURE OF THE GREAT MULTITUDE IN 2021.


This first stage - the birth - was itself divided into two stages:

a) Natural and physical birth of Christ: 22/7, 16h, 2013.

b) Spiritual birth of Christ once left and returned to God and his throne (in a UFO abduction): 22/7, 16h, 2014.


This event - corresponding to the spectacular peak of the Schumann resonances on 22/7, 2014 - was imminent at the time this article was originally posted on mi-July 20 2014. Now, some will invent and imagine all sorts of return or non-return of Christ. But they will have to add or remove words in the Book of Revelation, what Jesus Christ specifically request not to do. Be very careful with the beliefs that some manipulate. STAY STUCK TO THE TEXTS IF YOU WANT TO APPROACH THE TRUTH OF THE END TIMES.

ChristExtra, Godlike Productions 18 Comments [12/7/2014 5:27:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 105127

Christ in the British Royal Family, Why?


THE FACTS CONFIRM THE APOCALYPSE AS IS IT ANALYSED IN THIS BLOG WITH A FLAWLESS CONSISTENCY.


Whenever some details annoy some people, they relegate them to mere ramblings 'needed to be put in the context of the time'. AND? WHAT THE CONTEXT OF THAT TIME EXPLAINS IN SOME PASSAGES APPARENTLY ABSTRUSE?

Suddenly, there is no one to explain. And it is my experience talking. Things are thrown in the trash of the 'uninteresting details' that Jesus asks specifically in chapter 22 of the Apocalypse not to remove or add to the prophecies.

BUT NOBODY EXPLAINS WHY JOHN HAS GIVEN THESE SPECIFIC INFORMATION IF THEY DO NOT CORRESPOND TO ANYTHING. Putting things aside seems to be the favorite sport of 'those who know everything in advance'.

You can reject the Apocalypse on the pretext not to be interested. But the main reason often lies in the complexity of this Book of Revelation. But once you have all the keys it is much simpler and understandable: JEAN EXPERIENCED A MYSTICAL CONTACT.

This blog is 'based' on the Bible in which it is question of clouds and angels. Of the 74 verses evoking the paranormal clouds only two or three verses are in the Apocalypse. I mention the Apocalypse because the debate is centered on the return of Christ. The Apocalypse is the central book that details the conditions of this return in several stages: natural birth, spiritual birth (these two phases are now completed) and the Ministry of Christ who will 'come' in a few years.

It is written that the Christ comes on / in / with a cloud . My purpose is 1) to show that the paranormal clouds are alien spacecrafts, 2) to show that Jesus Christ returns in an alien ship and 3) Prince George is Christ and his parents the Two Witnesses.


First, the flying saucers are precisely mentioned in the Old and the New Testament. Hence this blog. Humans UFO could / should exist only by means of an adequate terrestrial technology, WELL AFTER THE FIRST ALIEN UFO. The Apocalypse it clear about what happens to the Great Multitude in white robes. It will be nourished and protected by God while the chaos will reign on Earth. It will be therefore on another planet. False prophets are everywhere. This is not to say that all those who prophesy are false prophets. But why would the Prince George be Christ?

Take a step back and put everything in the ad hoc context.

Let review a little the Old Testament. In the chapters on Kings, God grants to King David a line of kings after him to represent Him on earth. His son is Solomon. This is also King Solomon who asked his people 666 talents of gold every year to satisfy its needs and requirements. Doing this, Solomon stayed away from God. This case is at the heart of the Number of the Beast.

This Beast is actually the second beast of the Apocalypse. If the first is the WORLD POLITICAL POWER, through the symbol of the British Royalty, via the Red Dragon (Princes of Wales), the second is the WORLD FINANCIAL POWER, through the City of London.

In the Apocalypse, Jean talks about the mysterious Babylon. And even the Great Prostitute. This is a single symbolic person: the City of London.

The City is a place apart. British kings and queens can get there without being invited (the Apocalypse refers to it in his own way). It is the financial heart of the world as the leading financial center in the world (stock exchange, banks and insurance). The City of London, BABYLON-DON, the famous Mother of all prostitutes, that is to say, of all the world stock exchanges, was just the very first implantation of London in the first century. The City was thus baby London, hence BABYLON-DON.

Let us return to the Kings. God also promised to David that his lineage would not miss anything and that it would live in comfort! Also, God declared that the tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim would be A Nation respectively, and a community of Nations. The two tribes would be asked to dominate the world. And Ephraim is the first son through whom God would send the Anointed. Manasseh is the USA (A Nation). Ephraim is the United Kingdom and ... the Common Wealth (Community of Nations). So, from the beginning, God planned that Christ would return in the British royal family. There is a movement stating that: the Anglo-Israelism. Some of their claims are misleading, but the basics are solid.

The "British" word is supposed to be derived from two Hebrew words "Berit" and "Ish" to be understood as "men of the covenant". Remember that the Apocalypse is full of kings that can be easily distinguished from other characters. The very notion of royalty is the representation of God on Earth. The king was both the political leader and spiritual leader. There was no Pope.

What this royalty has become today is precisely the reason for the return of Christ in the royal family, just as Jesus Christ came on Earth 2000 years as an heir to the throne of Israel in the midst of a culture whose behavior betrayed God himself! History repeats itself, but the outcome will be very different. Christ does not return to be crucified but to take the elect and for the Last Judgment. All this has nothing to do with the reptilians, but with a secular tradition, and even divine.

ChristExtra, Godlike Productions 22 Comments [12/7/2014 5:27:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 105126

• Americans have killed our unborn and called it choice.
• Americans have tolerated drunkenness and called it a disease instead of a sin.
• Americans have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.
• Americans have embraced homosexuality and called is an alternative lifestyle.
• Americans have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.
• Americans have taught children fraudulent evolution and called it solid education.
• Americans have murdered over one million innocent Iraqis and called it the peace effort.
• Americans have taught our daughters to dress like prostitutes and called it fashion.
• Americans have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem.
• Americans have abused power and called it politics.
• Americans have committed idolatry and called it entertainment.
• Americans have bowed in idolatrous worship of graven images (The Blessed Virgin Mary), calling it truth.
• Americans have ignored criminal insider trading by Congress, calling it soft corruption.
• Americans have stolen from each other and called it business.
• Americans have coveted their neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.
• Americans have polluted the air with profanity and called it free speech.
• Americans have produced and indulged in pornography and called it freedom of expression.
• Americans have denied the inspiration of the Bible and called it scholarship.

Why should God bless America?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 40 Comments [12/7/2014 5:27:11 AM]
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Quote# 105122

[RCQ_92130 alleges setting aside Proposition 8 was unlawful because the judge was a homosexual seeking marriage]

1. "committed Christian" ???? Balderdash. You KNOW that is a lie;.

2. You can troll until your drop dead from AIDS; I care not.

3. A Judge must recuse himself if he has a horse in the race, as did Walker. Deal with it.

4. Explain to me why society should change it's 5,000 year old definition of marriage; why this is beneficial to our society. The onus is on YOU, not on those to say why it should NOT happen.

5. If you actually WERE a Christian you would understand you are NOT to 'conform to the world'. Your argument that, "a whole generation has been brainwashed and supports us" is not even a lousy way to make public policy; it's no way at all.

[Poster replies]

Yes, that's the typical homosexual excuse.

Realizing you say this simply out of dogma, I'll respond anyway.
We see from many ~~ Vaughn Walker, Annise Parker, etc. ~~~ that homosexuals are for some reason incapable of subjugating their personal, activist agenda in favor of their professional responsibilities. I suppose it has something to do with the fact homosexuals define themselves first and foremost as homosexuals; everything else is far lower.

Normal people are not like this. If you were to ask ANY straight person about themselves, the very last thing they would use to describe their lives is "straight". So, if a normal Judge is adjudicating a case in which a straight (or homosexual) individual is either Defendant or Plaintiff, the urge to promote some sort of sexual agenda is simply absent.

With homosexuals, the urge to promote "Gay Agenda" is everything, squeezing objectivity and impartiality completely aside. Homosexuals, generally, are incapable of fulfilling their duties. Others do not suffer from this deficiency.

Thus, your extrapolation is inapplicable.

[Another poster replies]

Yes, of course ... if a Black Judge were an activist he or she should recuse him/herself on any matter in which that activism was germane. Of course. If, for example, Obama were to appoint any of his blatantly racist friends to the bench there should rightly be a good deal of 'recusing" going on..

This is not global warming. Your claim that "all scientists agree" is absurd. There is no consensus at all on this other than in the APA's Division 44 and other internal gay propaganda mills that have been established., and their voices - though carrying the banner of the Association that was once a legitimate, objective scientific resource, should be ignored by all as ,... well, as it's nothing more than propaganda. That silly stuff might make you feel a bit more 'justified', but serves no other sensible purpose.

Oh, and please shuck off the "stop peering into bedrooms" silliness. Before the rampant, militant activism swept homosexuals up, there were, no doubt, many individuals like you described, who just want to be left alone. That is no longer true, and the matter that has awakened so many in fierce opposition to GayGestapo is that the matter is NOT in the bedroom. Take it back there and all will be well again. But the obsession will not allow that, will it?

RCQ_91230, BarbWire 16 Comments [12/7/2014 5:23:22 AM]
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Quote# 105119

[Aside from an image, this is the entire post; the ellipses are in the original]

Let's take a look at the major causes of fatherlessness:

1. No-fault divorce
2. The de-stigmatization of promiscuity
3. Stigmatization of Patriarchy (fatherly authority)

Now let's take a look at the goals of the feminist movement:

1. No-fault divorce
2. The de-stigmatization of promiscuity
3. Stigmatization of Patriarchy (fatherly authority)

I'm not saying that fatherlessness was an explicit objective of Feminism. I'm saying that if fatherlessness had been an explicit objective of Feminism...

...they wouldn't have done anything differently.

Timothy Dukeman, Deeper than Sound-Bites 25 Comments [12/7/2014 5:15:30 AM]
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Quote# 105115

["my body is mine. if someone is violating my body against my will, I should absolutely have the right to kill them."]

Do you even hear yourself? Are you so lost in your abortion indoctrination that you have lost touch with your humanity? You are like a kindergartner that has claimed a toy that they want to keep for themselves. You are claiming the right to kill your own son or daughter because they had the audacity to occupy your womb. A toy that you believe only you can play with, yet a toy that was never really intended for you alone, but was meant to be shared with others.

cultureshift, In Defense of the Defenseless 43 Comments [12/6/2014 4:32:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 105114

["a pregnancy would put me in danger. it would leave me jobless and homeless. it's -30 outside, I would freeze to death in a matter of hours. it is a threat to my life, so I should have the right to abort it. just like any woman should have if it's a threat to her life and well being. you don't know her circumstances, so you have no business running around shaming everyone you see who is talking about abortion."]

Are you actually trying to claim that you should have the right to kill the child growing within your womb because it’s cold outside? Do you honestly expect ANYONE to believe that a society - a grouping of civil human beings - would let a pregnant mother wander the frozen streets of their community without intervention to save her life and the life of her child? What world do you live in? If you ever become pregnant, which I suspect you never have, let me know. I will protect you and your child with my very life. As would almost every person walking this Earth with you today.

Please, step back from the rhetoric and reassess your convictions. You are better than human abortion. We all are.

cultureshift, In Defense of the Defenseless 39 Comments [12/6/2014 4:32:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 105111

An Arizona pastor is making headlines after claiming that AIDS would be eradicated if gays were "executed."

The New Civil Rights Movement first reported that Pastor Steven Anderson, who runs Tempe's Faithful Word Baptist Church, made the shocking claims during a sermon delivered Nov. 30.

Arguing that members of the gay community are "filled with disease because of the judgement of God," Anderson said, "Anybody who's a homo or bi -- it's all the same category -- sodomite is what the Bible would call them."

Citing Leviticus 18:22, he then added, "It was right there in the Bible all along ... if you executed the homos like God recommends, you wouldn't have all this AIDS running rampant."

It isn't the first time that Anderson, who "holds no college degree but has well over 140 chapters of the Bible memorized word-for-word" according to his church's website, has ruffled feathers.

Earlier this year, he argued that "remarriage is adultery," noting, "I don’t care if our society embraces divorce, and even Christians are getting divorced at the same rate as the world, I'm not gonna change!"

He has also argued in favor of keeping women silent in church.

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection," he said in a sermon. "But I suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp authority over the man."

Pastor Steven Anderson, Huffington Post 40 Comments [12/6/2014 4:31:49 AM]
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Submitted By: KittyKaboom

Quote# 105108

A Baptist pastor in Tempe, Arizona called for the mass extermination of LGBT people on Sunday in a sermon entitled “AIDS: The Judgement of God.”

In the sermon, which was uploaded to YouTube on Monday from Faithful Word Baptist Church, Pastor Steven Anderson said that God has ordered in the scriptures that gays should be killed, and that if humanity wants to have an “AIDS-free world by Christmas,” he said, that’s what should be done.

“Turn to Leviticus 20:13,” he says in the video, “because I actually discovered the cure for AIDS.”


“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them,” Anderson read aloud.

“And that, my friend, is the cure for AIDS,” he said. “It was right there in the Bible all along — and they’re out spending billions of dollars in research and testing. It’s curable — right there. Because if you executed the homos like God recommends, you wouldn’t have all this AIDS running rampant.”

At another point in his sermon, Anderson had a foot-stomping, shouting tantrum about the idea that people can be LGBT and Christian. There will never be any gays in his church, he said, not ever, ever, ever.

“No homos will ever be allowed in this church as long as I am pastor here,” he insisted. “Never! Say ‘You’re crazy.’ No, you’re crazy if you think that there’s something wrong with my ‘no homo’ policy.”

According to the website IfYouOnlyNews.com, Anderson’s sermons have stirred controversy in the past. He has run afoul of the Secret Service after openly praying in 2009 and again this year for the death of President Barack Obama.

Other sermons from Faithful Word have included a meditation on the evils of allowing women to speak in church and a lengthy discourse on the lying, evil ways of Jewish people.

Steven Anderson, Raw Story 38 Comments [12/6/2014 4:29:39 AM]
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Quote# 105105

A woman left her husband's body rotting in a bedroom of their home because she thought he would rise from the dead, a Hamilton court heard Monday.

?Kaling Wald pleaded guilty to failing to notify police or the coroner that Peter Wald had died from an illness that wasn’t being treated. She received a suspended sentence and an order to get counselling as well as 18 months probation.

The macabre case first came to light back in January, when the woman was arrested and charged with neglect of duty regarding a dead body and indignity to a body. The two charges were withdrawn and replaced with the single charge.

[...]

Wald died around March 20, 2013, according to summary of the case's facts provided by Crown counsel Janet Booy. He had diabetes and was suffering from a foot infection, she wrote. Neighbours in the area told CBC News that Wald had been seen hobbling for some time before he stopped being seen in public.

When neighbours asked his wife about him, all she would say was he “was in God’s hands now.” Wald refused to go to hospital, court heard Monday. "He believed God would cure him," Booy wrote.

Neighbours described Wald as a deeply religious but kind man. He could be seen driving through Hamilton in a blue Astro van adorned with religious symbols and sayings. He could also be seen wearing clothing with religious-themed writing on it.

?Kaling Wald, Peter Wald and their five children, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation 25 Comments [12/6/2014 4:28:28 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 105103

We are losing over 100,000 Jewish souls a year to intermarriage and assimilation. In America alone, more than one and a half million Jews are practicing other religions. This is a holocaust.

[...]

And some people say that perhaps this one is worse. The spiritual holocaust is worse than the physical one. We are losing millions. In the physical Holocaust, we lost six million kedoshim [holy ones]. In the current spiritual holocaust, we are losing millions of what? Kedoshim? They are notkedoshim. They are just lost many to other religions.

Whenever I speak about this topic, I try to make it real to people. And it’s quite hard to do. We don’t see the barbed wire or the train tracks. We don’t see the gas chambers or the crematoria. All we see is nothing. People are disappearing and we don’t even see that.

Yehoshua Grunfield, Project Inspire 35 Comments [12/6/2014 4:27:17 AM]
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Quote# 105097

Were there a true wage gap predicated on nothing but the sex of the individual in question, it would benefit virtually every area of society. Naturally, every single one of these goods is contrary to the Progressive soteriology, which is ultimately why it is raked over the coals constantly. Catholics celebrate the Crucifixion at every Mass, after all, so the monthly paean to the wage gap is but an engagement in the same kind of ritual. Don’t you know we’re in a spiritual battle against the invisible forces of sexism and misogyny?

Why would a wage gap exist? The market tends to assign wages on the basis of labor value. Ability is but a component thereof. What an employer is looking at besides mere ability is also how committed the employee will be to work, how convenient he is to employ compared to other employees, how well he will get along with co-workers, and so on. In most professions, women face a natural disadvantage on nearly all of these factors. Women are more likely to quit a job or go part time after working a few years and getting married and/or having children. Women are less likely to actually do their assigned work and more likely to dump it on willing supplicants. Women are less likely to become as skilled at the work over time. Women are more likely to foster divisive politics within the office. It isn’t difficult to understand that given these factors women are frequently employed in unproductive make-work positions so that an employer won’t be subject to an inquisition by the EEOC while simultaneously making sure those engaged in the productive work won’t disrupt its smooth operation. This is without going into the penalties faced by employers who do hire women. Women are more difficult to fire as the threat of a sexual discrimination charge looms. Women pose costs to the office social environment in that sexual harassment charges can occupy an office for weeks, hindering productivity and cohesiveness of the social work environment. Altogether, if a wage gap exists, it is because women tend to be less valuable as employees for all these reasons. If I’m an employer and I’m looking at both a male and female candidate who have demonstrated equal ability, my preference will be for the man for all the reasons pointed out above.

Sans the dogma that women should make as much as men, there would be a wage gap and a lower female participation in the labor force. This is a good thing. There is such a thing as wages which are too high. A gender wage gap which strongly favors men disincentivizes women from pursuing careers, which in turn is their incentive to pursue husbands and a family life. Simultaneously, the lowered labor force participation rate would push wages higher, making it more feasible for a man to be a breadwinner. Instead of the best and brightest women being consigned to the dysgenic infertility of demanding careers, they would be having and raising smart and gifted children, helping to secure the eugenic future of civilization. Likewise, female college attendance would drop, allowing courses to be more rigorous, tuition and loan rates to fall, scarce postgraduate educational resources could be reserved for men more likely to have a higher labor value, rates of promiscuity on campuses would fall, and women’s studies wouldn’t have to exist to prop up the academic attainment of women who can’t cut it in STEM or even rigorous humanities majors. Women would have fewer delusions about their worth as marriage material, making them more attractive to men; men could more easily get a stable, family supporting career, increasing their own attractiveness to women as well. Rates of divorce would fall, which by extension means rates of child abuse would also fall. Equal pay makes everything worse for practically everyone in society.

A true, unregulated gender wage gap is not a cure-all panacea, but it would be a step towards restoring the family and the indispensable benefits it provides to society. Granted, it is only orthodox to prefer that women be independent (lonely), empowered (subsidized by men), and sexually liberated (slutty) rather than be engaged in the timeless and noble service of motherhood, but is that a mark against the gender wage gap or our own society?

Bryce Laliberte, Anarcho Papist 31 Comments [12/5/2014 6:37:38 AM]
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Quote# 105096

**Speaking about the Song "Aerials" by System of a Down**

I have enjoyed reading others interpretations of this song. Here is mine. The song is powerful both in music and lyric. It is about how we seek truth but are not willing to commit to the message. System uses much religious symbolism in their music.

The word Aerials means Lion of God - another name for Jesus Christ.

Swimming through the void, We hear the word,- We lose ourselves, but we find it all.

Going though life we are lost in void. We hear the 'Word' - Jesus' is the word of God. When we hear the word we are no longer lost but have purpose.. Purpose is what we seek.

Life is a waterfall,
We drink from the river,
Then we turn around and put up our walls

We receive grace from God.
But deny what feeds us grace.

Aerials, in the sky,
When you lose small mind,
You free your life. -

- John 8 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.â??

Another set of lyrics refers to our human weakness.

Cause we are the ones that want to play,
Always want to go,
But you never want to stay,

We are willing to hear the message on surface but we are not as willing to commit to it.


Anon, SongMeanings.com 25 Comments [12/5/2014 6:36:39 AM]
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Submitted By: theauthor13

Quote# 105094

Among the belief systems of the world, evolutionism can be classified as an endangered species. Though it has many followers, it is not a “healthy” belief that can survive on its own. Other belief systems survive because they are supported or confirmed by scientific evidence and rational thinking. Not so with evolution. It survives only because it enjoys special protection under the law, which is afforded only to endangered species that cannot compete without such help.

Jason Lisle, Jason Lisle's Blog 47 Comments [12/5/2014 6:36:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 105093

"Also, there were probably those who considered that preventing women from getting college degrees was part of the "culture" back then, and that giving women the same oportunities as men would be an example of "cultural collapse"."

Not an example, a necessary causal factor. Women destroy every institution they enter, so it should come as no surprise that their involvement outside the family is a good metric for cultural collapse.

I was laughing at the GoodReads winners selections. You only had to look at the covers to see that women voted for them. And still people wonder why so much literature is shit and book sales are in decline.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 37 Comments [12/5/2014 6:35:45 AM]
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Quote# 105089

Even bally dancing is sinful, VERY SINFUL, because the women dance in their underwear, giving explicit views of their body. Those women who dance while skating are filthy. It is offensive to God. Bally Dancing is sexually arousing and; therefore, extremely sinful. The same people who scoff at my preaching are the same people who have no problem with abortion, divorce, nor fornication.

Tragically, most cheerleaders are dressed sinfully and often perform sexually suggestive dances while cheerleading. Although seemingly harmless to most people, it is such indecent practices as immodest cheerleading that corrupts societies' morals and leads to more sexual crimes.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 43 Comments [12/5/2014 6:34:11 AM]
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Quote# 105087

It was Joe’s first date with Mary. He asked her what she wanted in life and she replied, “I want to establish my career. That’s the most important thing to me right now.” Undeterred that she had no need for a man in her life, Joe entertained her with enough funny stories and cocky statements that she soon allowed him to lightly pet her forearm.

At the end of the date, he locked arms with her on the walk to the subway station, when two Middle Eastern men on scooter patrol accosted them and said they were forbidden to touch. “This is Sharia zone,” they said in heavily accented English, in front of a Halal butcher shop. Joe and Mary felt bad that they offended the two men, because they were trained in school to respect all religions but that of their ancestors. One of the first things they learned was that their white skin gave them extra privilege in life which must be consciously restrained at all times. Even if they happened to disagree with the two men, they could not verbally object because of anti-hate laws that would put them in jail for religious discrimination. They unlocked arms and maintained a distance of three feet from each other.

Unfortunately for Joe, Mary did not want to go out with him again, but seven years later he did receive a message from her on Facebook saying hello. She became vice president of a company, but could not find a man equal to her station since women now made 25% more than men on average. Joe had long left the country and moved to Thailand, where he married a young Thai girl and had three children. He had no plans on returning to his country, America.

If cultural collapse occurs in the way I will now describe, the above scenario will be the rule within a few decades. The Western world is being colonized in reverse, not by weapons or hard power, but through a combination of progressivism and low reproductive rates. These two factors will lead to a complete cultural collapse of many Western nations within the next 200 years. This theory will show the most likely mechanism that it will proceed in America, Canada, UK, Scandinavia, and Western Europe.

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The Cultural Collapse Progression

1. Removal of religious narrative from people’s lives, replaced by a treadmill of scientific and technological “progress.”

2. Elimination of traditional sex roles through feminism, gender equality, political correctness, cultural Marxism, and socialism.

3. Delay or abstainment of family formation by women to pursue careerist lifestyles while men wait in confused limbo.

4. Decreasing birth rate among native population.

5. Government enactment of open immigration policies to prevent economic collapse.

6. Immigrant refusal to fully acclimate, forcing host culture to adopt external rituals and beliefs while being out-reproduced.

7. Natives becoming marginalized in their own country.

1. Removal of religious narrative

Religion has been a powerful restraint for millennia in preventing humans from pursuing their base desires and narcissistic tendencies so that they satisfy a god. Family formation is the central unit of most religions, possibly because children increase membership at zero marginal cost to the church (i.e. they don’t need to be recruited).

Religion may promote scientific ignorance, but it facilitates reproduction by giving people a narrative that places family near the center of their existence.[1] [2] [3] After the Enlightenment, the rapid advance of science and its logical but nihilistic explanations into the universe have removed the religious narrative and replaced it with an empty narrative of scientific progress, knowledge, and technology, which act as a restraint and hindrance to family formation, allowing people to pursue individual goals of wealth accumulation or hedonistic pleasure seeking.[4] As of now, there has not been a single non-religious population that has been able to reproduce above the death rate.[5]

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2. Elimination of traditional sex roles

Once religion no longer plays a role in people’s lives, the stage is set to fracture male-female bonding. It is collectively attacked by several ideologies stemming from the beliefs of Cultural Marxist theory, which serve to accomplish one common end: destruction of the family unit so that citizens are dependent on the state. They achieve this goal through the marginalization of men and their role in society under the banner of “equality.”[6] With feminism pushed to the forefront of this umbrella movement, the drive for equality ends up being a power grab by women.[7] This attack is performed on a range of fronts:

medicating boys from a young age with ADHD drugs to eradicate displays of masculinity[8]
shaming of men for having direct sexual interest in attractive and fertile women
criminalization of normal male behavior by redefining some instances of consensual sex as rape[9]
imprisonment of unemployed fathers for non-payment of child support, rendering them destitute and unable to be a part of their children’s lives[10]
taxation of men at higher rates for redistribution to women[11] [12]
promotion of single mother and homosexual lifestyles over that of the nuclear family[13] [14]

The end result is that men, confused about their identify and averse to state punishment from sexual harassment, “date rape,” and divorce proceedings, make a rational decision to wait on the sidelines.[15] Women, still not happy with the increased power given to them, continue their assault on men by instructing them to “man up” into what has become an unfair deal—marriage. The elevation of women above men is allowed by corporations, which adopt “girl power” marketing to expand their consumer base and increase profits.[16] [17] Governments also allow it because it increases their tax revenue. Because there is money to be made with women working and becoming consumers, there is no effort by the elite to halt this development.
3. Women begin to place career above family

At the same time men are emasculated as mere “sperm donors,” women are encouraged to adopt the career goals, mannerisms, and competitive lifestyles of men, inevitably causing them to delay marriage, often into an age where they can no longer find suitable husbands who have more resources than themselves. [18] [19] [20] [21] The average woman will find it exceedingly difficult to balance career and family, and since she has no concern of getting “fired” from her family, who she may see as a hindrance to her career goals, she will devote an increasing proportion of time into her job.

Female income, in aggregate, will soon match or exceed that of men.[22] [23] [24] A key reason that women historically got married was to be economically provided for, but this reason will no longer persist and women will feel less pressure or motivation to marry. The burgeoning spinster population will simply be a money-making opportunity for corporations to market to an increasing population of lonely women. Cat and small dog sales will rise.

Women succumb to their primal sexual and materialistic urges to live the “Sex and the City” lifestyle full of fine dining, casual sex, technological bliss, and general gluttony without learning traditional household skills or feminine qualities that would make them attractive wives.[25] [26] Men adapt to careerist women in a rational way by doing the following:

to sate their natural sexual desires, men allow their income to lower since economic stability no longer provides a draw to women in their prime[27]
they mimic “alpha male” social behavior to get laid with women who, without having an urgent need for a man’s monetary resources to survive, can choose men based on confidence, aesthetics, and general entertainment value[28]
they withdraw into a world of video games and the internet, satisfying their own base desires for play and simulated hunting[29] [30]

Careerist women who decide to marry will do so in a hurried rush around 30 because they fear growing old alone, but since they are well past their fertility peak[31], they may find it difficult to reproduce. In the event of successful reproduction at such a later age, fewer children can be born before biological infertility, limiting family size compared to the historical past.

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Cultural decline begins in earnest when the natives feel shame or guilt for who they are, their history, their way of life, and where their ancestors came from. They will let immigrant groups criticize their customs without protest, or they simply embrace immigrant customs instead with religious conversion and interethnic marriages. Nationalistic pride will be condemned as a “far-right” phenomenon and popular nationalistic politicians will be compared to Hitler. Natives learn the art of self-censorship, limiting the range of their speech and expressions, and soon only the elderly can speak the truths of the cultural decline while a younger multiculturalist within earshot attributes such frankness to senility or racist nostalgia.

With the already entrenched environment of political correctness (see stage 2), the local culture becomes a sort of “world” culture that can be declared tolerant and progressive as long as there is a lack of criticism against immigrants, multiculturalism, and their combined influence. All cultural identity will eventually be lost, and to be “American” or “British,” for example, will no longer have modern meaning from a sociological perspective. Native traditions will be eradicated and a cultural mixing will take place where citizens from one world nation will be nearly identical in behavior, thought, and consumer tastes to citizens of another. Once a collapse occurs, it cannot be reversed. The nation’s cultural heritage will be forever lost.

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How To Stop Cultural Collapse

Maintaining native birth rates while preventing the elite from allowing immigrant labor is the most effective means at preventing cultural collapse. Since multiculturalism is an experiment with no proven efficacy, a culture can only be maintained by a relatively homogenous group who identify with each other. When that homogeneity breaks down and one citizen looks to the next and does not see a person with the same values as himself, the culture falls in dis-repair as native citizens begin to lose a shared means of communication and identity. Once the percentage of the immigrant population crosses a certain threshold (perhaps 15%), the decline will pick up in pace and cultural breakdown will be readily apparent to all observers.

Current policies to solve low birth rates through immigration is a short-term fix with dire long-term consequences. In effect, it’s a Trojan-horse prescription of irreversible cultural destruction. A state must prevent itself from entering the position where mass immigration is considered a solution by blocking progressive ideologies from taking hold. One way this can be done is through the promotion of a state-sponsored religion which encourages the nuclear family instead of single motherhood and homosexuality. However, introducing religion as a mainstay of citizen life in the post-enlightenment era may be impossible.

We must consider that the scientific era is an evolutionary maladaptive feature of humanity that natural selection will accordingly punish (i.e. those who are anti-religious and pro-science will simply breed less). It must also be considered that with religion in permanent decline, cultural collapse may be a certainty that eventually occurs in all developed nations. Religion, it may turn out, was evolutionary beneficial to the human race.

Another possible solution is to foster a patriarchal society where men serve as strong providers. If you encourage the development of successful men who possess indispensable skills and therefore resources that are lacked by females, there will be women below their station who want to marry and procreate with them, but if strong women are produced instead, marriage and procreation is unlikely to take place at levels above the death rate.

A gap between the sexes should always exist in the favor of men if procreation is to occur at high rates, or else you’ll have something similar to the situation in America where urban professional women cannot find “good men” to begin a family with (i.e., men who are significantly more financially successful than them). They instead remain single and barren, only used occasionally by cads for exciting casual sex.

Roosh Valizadeh, Return of Kings 41 Comments [12/5/2014 6:33:22 AM]
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Quote# 105085

I know that 2 + 2 = 4. I don’t know this inductively because I have examined all possible answers to the question ‘what is 2 + 2?’. I know it deductively through other methods. As such, I don’t need to have examined all possible answers to the question (thankfully, since there are an infinite number of possible answers). If someone told me that 2 + 2 = 5, I know that they are wrong. I’ll examine their reasoning to help show that they are wrong, and why they are wrong.

Now, if someone came up to me with a twenty page paper, with hundreds of equations, big long explanations and proofs, and at the end it appeared that they have proved 2 + 2 = 17, well, I know that they are wrong. Even if I go through the paper quickly and don’t identify right away where they went wrong, I know that they are wrong, because I know that 2 + 2 = 4. And I know that for reasons other than the need to disprove their apparent proof here in this paper. So I can happily stand on the truth of my position while I try to determine where their proof falls apart. Maybe they divided by zero in some complex, easy to miss equation. Maybe they made a logic error. It could be all sorts of things. So I’ll go through it and try to see where it fails, all the while knowing that I am correct about 2 + 2 = 4, because my knowledge of that doesn’t rely upon disproving this person’s apparent proof that 2 + 2 = 17.

It’s similar with Christianity. I know that Christianity is true via divine revelation. My knowledge of this isn’t based upon inductively proving other worldviews false. It’s based upon the revelation of God which He has made evident to me in such a way that I can know it, and can’t be wrong about it.

So when discussing the issue with someone else, and critiquing their worldview, I can stand completely firm on the knowledge of the truth while I examine the ways the other person’s worldview falls apart. Some are simple, like atheism or deism – they essentially refute themselves before getting out of the starting gate. Others may be quite complex and difficult – Judaism and Roman Catholicism both have many aspects of the truth in them, and therefore it’s more difficult to peel back the layers and show people where their position falls short or breaks down. But ultimately, all non-Christian positions fail to provide a foundation by which a valid epistemology, metaphysic, or ethic can be held in a consistent, non-arbitrary way.


Johnathan Bradford, Anwsers for hope 36 Comments [12/5/2014 6:31:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 105084

Today Motorola (a Google company) has defied all logic making the stunning announcement of a new feature by for the Moto X – a digital tattoo that can unlock your phone. It seems the normal 2.5 seconds it takes to punch in your pass code is just too long! Motorola wants to shorten it to a mere second of time. Yes they are rolling out this ‘mark of the beast prototype’ all in the name of security and convenience. Chances are it will be coming to a store near you…..

(No name given), Before it's News 21 Comments [12/5/2014 4:19:23 AM]
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Quote# 105080

public backlash against the discovery that theropods were feathered isnt just anti science like lmao of course its misogynistic

birds are seen of as feminine and a metaphor for women. sparrow, songbird, dove, little bird, feathers go on womens clothes, eat like a bird, harpy/harping, etc.

reptiles are masculine because theyre “primitive” and violent, snakeskin boots, crocodile tooth hats, etc. an alligator purse is a gender subversive article of clothing for women, or at least one that suggests an unusual demand for power/notice.

dinosaurs are cool “monsters” with a hypermasculine culture around them (not in small part thanks to the hypermasculine paleontological and film industries) and to be confronted with the idea that they may have been more bird than reptile, or even a little visibly avian, is an affront the masculinity reptiles and large toothy carnivores are supposed to represent. people arent mad about raptors with feathers because theyll “look dumb.” they think the feathers will look dumb because they have a feminine connotation. theres a fear dinosaurs will be “corrupted” by traditionally girly shit. the public finds it insulting. the binary forces genders onto every symbol available and cant stand when the unnatural division is challenged by nature.

tl;dr if you think dinosaurs dont look cool with feathers it’s because you hate women

Jack, what is this bald dog? 36 Comments [12/5/2014 4:17:44 AM]
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Quote# 105079

We need sufficient pious hypocrisy that the established religion cannot be used to attack the establishment, nor used to cast out some large part of the population as insufficiently holy.

Spandrel argues that a semi hereditary priesthood, or an official priesthood, a state manufactured religio, is likely to be insufficiently sincere, and will therefore be defeated by dangerously sincere outsiders.

It is only going to be defeated by dangerously sincere outsiders if you give the competition a fair go and a level playing field. Don’t do that! Bribe the indolence of the clergy with ample privilege over the competition.

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Japanese religio is today progressive and feminist, because MacArthur commanded it to be. Should international political conditions change, it could rather rapidly cease to be progressive and feminist.

Japan is sinking into crisis because of population collapse. It currently attempts to fix the problem with ever more extreme applications of Keynesianism. To really fix it, need to restore the pre MacArthur status of women. Japan’s strong and cohesive religio is a tool that could do such a thing, though the will to apply this entirely functional and dangerously potent tool is absent, being discredited by the things the tool was applied for in the events leading up to World War II. I don’t think Japan has the will to save itself, but it has the tools to do so, and these tools could be copied.

Jim, Jim's Blog 18 Comments [12/5/2014 4:17:13 AM]
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