Quote# 101327

"Joe the Plumber's" open letter to the parents of the Isla Vista shooting victims.

I’m not talking here about the three tragic murders Rodger committed by stabbing before his driving and shooting spree; I speak now only to the families of the gunshot victims in Santa Barbara:

It’s a tragedy.

I am sorry you lost your child. I myself have a son and daughter and the one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through now. But:

As harsh as this sounds – your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights.

Richard Martinez, whose son (Christopher) was among the murdered, choked back tears at a news conference, blaming politicians the next day: “The talk about gun rights. What about Chris’ right to live?” Martinez said – and much more.

There are no critical words for a grieving father. He can say whatever he wants and blame whoever he’d like – it’s okay by me. You can’t take a step in his shoes – at least I can’t.

But the words and images of Mr. Martinez blaming “the proliferation of guns”, lobbyists, politicians, etc.; will be exploited by gun-grab extremists as are all tragedies involving gun violence and the mentally ill by the anti-Second Amendment Left.

As a father, husband and a man, it is my responsibility to protect my family. I will stand up for that right vehemently. Please believe me, as a father I share your grief and I will pray for you and your family, as I do whenever I hear about senseless tragedies such as this.

We still have the Right to Bear Arms and I intend to continue to speak out for that right, and against those who would restrict it – even in the face of this horrible incident by this sad and insane individual. I almost said “Obama Voter” but I’m waiting for it to be official.

I noticed the mainstream media have stopped the practice of immediately reporting the psycho maniac is a conservative Tea Party Republican Christian. Guess they’re sick of having to hide being wrong every time when it comes out the whacko votes Democrat?

Mr. Martinez and anyone calling for more restrictions on American’s rights need to back off and stop playing into the hands of the folks who merely capitalize on these horrific events for their own political ends.

They don’t care about your family or your dead children at all. They sound like they do, whereas I sound uncaring and like I say, harsh. Don’t be fooled – I care about your family and mine. The future of our very liberty lies in the balance of this fight.

In conclusion, I cannot begin to imagine the pain you are going through, having had your child taken away from you. However, any feelings you have toward my rights being taken away from me, lose those.

Sincerely;

Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher

PS: To the parents of Elliot Rodger’s stabbing victims: I’m very sorry for your loss. I’m sick to death every damn time I turn around and some poor soul with obvious violent mental sickness is allowed to exact this kind of pain on a family.

Elliot Rodger deserved help, yes – but your child deserved so much more. I’m very sorry and sad for you.

Sam Wurzelbacher, aka Joe the Plumber, Barbwire 53 Comments [6/4/2014 3:18:33 AM]
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Submitted By: michael3ov

Quote# 101326

No, we don't want you at work. We want you home being homemakers, wives, mothers, building communities as all the generations of women before have done and as you have abandoned for wage labor and the feminist lie of independence and equality that is making you psychotic.
First you abandon husband, home, children and community and demand entry to the male workplace. Then you declare the workplace too male for your comfort, then you claim to be discriminated against, then you claim special privileges and exemptions in education and work to "empower" you to succeed at what men did without anyone "empowering" them, then you turn the workplace into a thing no man really wants to be a part of anyway.
No we do not want you there, we tolerate you there because the Bolshevik men you helped put in power grant you every privilege you seek as the price of their power and they use force to make us tolerate you in the workplace and to tolerate your incessant, irrational, never ending demands for privilege.
As the final insult, because you abandoned making and raising children, our civilization is shrinking and you feminists and your Bolshevik allies are importing men from the third world to do the work women can't do and haven't made enough native men to do.

eyesfrontmen, Breitbart.com 32 Comments [6/4/2014 3:17:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Greenhat

Quote# 101323

Women’s “absolute, unquestionable right to sexual freedom” is now so widely accepted and in your face the logical conclusion is ‘ok – got it – so where’s mine?’ What’s fair is fair – women have all this and I have… what? Worse, is the realization that not only does one not have all (or any) of the sexual freedoms, you get the bill for hers! And the blame, the shame and the abandonment too…

Not to excuse, but young men in particular aren’t built to accept that shit. Feminism has taken the mask off women’s feral sexual nature. It’s on full display – the lie of presumed female virtue as cultural foundation is blatant and in your face.

In response young men today either become politically correct gay (PC gay will go straight as soon as gay isn’t popular any longer) so as to be accepted by the ruling elite (females), or they’ll shut up and go away – one wants be liked so desperately he twists himself into a people pleasing’, gender beggar – the other is just another loner, loser, creepy male… Gangs, grass eaters, shooters and queers: just a few of the adaptations of young men reacting to the mandate that they pay the bills; personal, cultural, spiritual and financial – for women’s freedoms.

Anonymous, The Spearhead 21 Comments [6/4/2014 3:16:14 AM]
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Quote# 101322

The need for sex for young and middle aged men is like an addiction. We’re born addicts, it just doesn’t become apparent until puberty. To say that no man “deserves” sex is probably true but pointless. A heroin addict doesn’t deserve heroin but that doesn’t mean he won’t kill to get his next fix. It is what it is.

One of society’s reasons to exist is to address this need, to control it to some extent, to capitalize on it. One danger (one of many) of feminism is that it degrades the ability of our current society to address this addiction in a constructive way. Feminism is forcing the sexual market place in a direction that will not end well. Expect to see many more Elliot Rodgers in the future.

Khangray, The Spearhead 44 Comments [6/4/2014 3:15:59 AM]
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Quote# 101321

(speaking about the Santa Barbara Gunman)

Simple, take a society where young men are constantly bombarded with sex from nearly every media or advertisement. Than take the curiosity of a young man, who would like to know how it feels like and who wants to be in love. Then take a few girls who for one reason or another reject that guy and go for their usual type, instead. If this happens a few times, everyone would get frustrated. If doesn’t have to be sex, I am pretty sure it would be the same for every other product. If you are constantly under the impression everyone else gets what you want and you are not allowed, it is just becomes a source of anger.

As for this guy, judging by his videos. I would say he where a few times unlucky, gave up and blame the world, so far I agree.

But he constructed himself as a superior entity, probably as a self-defence-mechanism, so he would not think of himself as a failure.

I think there is a simple cure for people like him, slap him in the face, humble him by force, give him an exclusive whore for the rest of his life he has to take care of. Or in other words find him a loyal loving wife.

Maybe patriarchy was invented just because of this, to give more men the chance to procreate and not get frustrated.

I would say this, yes he is guilty of murder, but he is just a natural byproduct of our modern society.

“If you want to see a guilty one you only need to look into a mirror.”

Simon, The Spearhead 26 Comments [6/4/2014 3:15:18 AM]
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Quote# 101320

[These sections are all taken from Elliot Rodger's 140 page manifesto.]

It was only when I first moved to Santa Barbara that I started considering the possibility of having to carry out a violent act of revenge, as the final solution to dealing with all of the injustices I’ve had to face at the hands of women and society. I came up with a name for this after I saw all of the good looking young couples walking around my college and in the town of Isla Vista. I named it the Day of Retribution. It would be a day in which I exact my ultimate retribution and revenge on all of the hedonistic scum who enjoyed lives of pleasure that they don’t deserve. If I can’t have it, I will destroy it. I will destroy all women because I can never have them. I will make them all suffer for rejecting me. I will arm myself with deadly weapons and wage a war against all women and the men they are attracted to. And I will slaughter them like the animals they are. If they won’t accept me among them, then they are my enemies. They showed me no mercy, and in turn I will show them no mercy. The prospect will be so sweet, and justice will ultimately be served. And of course, I would have to die in the act to avoid going to prison.

. . . .

The ultimate evil behind sexuality is the human female. They are the main instigators of sex. They control which men get it and which men don’t. Women are flawed creatures, and my mistreatment at their hands has made me realize this sad truth. There is something very twisted and wrong with the way their brains are wired. They think like beasts, and in truth, they are beasts. Women are incapable of having morals or thinking rationally. They are completely controlled by their depraved emotions and vile sexual impulses. Because of this, the men who do get to experience the pleasures of sex and the privilege of breeding are the men who women are sexually attracted to… the stupid, degenerate, obnoxious men. I have observed this all my life. The most beautiful of women choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself.

Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.

Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.

. . . .

On the day before the Day of Retribution, I will start the First Phase of my vengeance: Silently killing as many people as I can around Isla Vista by luring them into my apartment through some form of trickery. The first people I would have to kill are my two housemates, to secure the entire apartment for myself as my personal torture and killing chamber. After that, I will start luring people into my apartment, knock them out with a hammer, and slit their throats. I will torture some of the good looking people before I kill them, assuming that the good looking ones had the best sex lives. All of that pleasure they had in life, I will punish by bringing them pain and suffering. I have lived a life of pain and suffering, and it was time to bring that pain to people who actually deserve it. I will cut them, flay them, strip all the skin off their flesh, and pour boiling water all over them while they are still alive, as well as any other form of torture I could possibly think of. When they are dead, I will behead them and keep their heads in a bag, for their heads will play a major role in the final phase. This First Phase will represent my vengeance against all of the men who have had pleasurable sex lives while I’ve had to suffer. Things will be fair once I make them suffer as I did. I will finally even the score.

The Second Phase will take place on the Day of Retribution itself, just before the climactic massacre. The Second Phase will represent my War on Women. I will punish all females for the crime of depriving me of sex. They have starved me of sex for my entire youth, and gave that pleasure to other men. In doing so, they took many years of my life away. I cannot kill every single female on earth, but I can deliver a devastating blow that will shake all of them to the core of their wicked hearts. I will attack the very girls who represent everything I hate in the female gender: The hottest sorority of UCSB. After doing a lot of extensive research within the last year, I found out that the sorority with the most beautiful girls is Alpha Phi Sorority. I know exactly where their house is, and I’ve sat outside it in my car to stalk them many times. Alpha Phi sorority is full of hot, beautiful blonde girls; the kind of girls I’ve always desired but was never able to have because they all look down on me. They are all spoiled, heartless, wicked bitches. They think they are superior to me, and if I ever tried to ask one on a date, they would reject me cruelly. I will sneak into their house at around 9:00 p.m. on the Day of Retribution, just before all of the partying starts, and slaughter every single one of them with my guns and knives. If I have time, I will set their whole house on fire. Then we shall see who the superior one really is!

. . . .

The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death. I would have an enormous tower built just for myself, where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die. If I can’t have them, no one will, I’d imagine thinking to myself as I oversee this. Women represent everything that is unfair with this world, and in order to make the world a fair place, they must all be eradicated.

A few women would be spared, however, for the sake of reproduction. These women would be kept and bred in secret labs. There, they will be artificially inseminated with sperm samples in order to produce offspring. Their depraved nature will slowly be bred out of them in time.

Future generations of men would be oblivious to these remaining women’s existence, and that is for the best. If a man grows up without knowing of the existence of women, there will be no desire for sex. Sexuality will completely cease to exist. Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts in the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.

Elliot Rodger, My Twisted World 52 Comments [6/4/2014 3:08:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 101319

In response to Robert Punu who posted: Fact of the matter is the atheist/agnostic has wishes and desires of their own. A wish that no Deity exists who will call them to account one day for their actions. Such a desire can be very motivating and could drive a person to hold an atheistic/agnostic position.
Charles Darwin said: "I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother, and almost all my best friends, will be everlastingly punished. And this is a damnable doctrine."

While I cannot prove to you that God exists, and you cannot prove to me that God does not exist.

I can give my own personal testimony that I was murdered at the age of 5 by Atheists, Roman Catholics, Homosexuals, Muslims and many, many other religious groups that were involved in the government experimental program that my twin sister and I were placed into against our own God-given free will and right to choose. I was standing in Heaven before the throne of God the Father and Jesus Christ was and still is seated at His right hand. I could have stayed. When I hear the ridiculous arguments trying to prove that God does not exist and they all of those who were responsible for hurting me and eventually even killing me at the age of 5 when I was helpless to stop them. I thank God that God Himself exists and that the day will come when "all" of the wicked people who live their lives for themselves will have to give account of themselves and their actions, but they will also receive "all" of the good and the "bad" that they have done to other people themselves. NO ONE gets away with anything. "If" you do "not" pay for it down here on the Earth, you will pay for it in Heaven on the Day of Judgment. I asked God the Father to send me back. Since then, I have often regretted my request.

But soon, Jesus Christ will come for His Bride the True Church of God, the True Body of Jesus Christ, the true honest sincere "born again" of God's Holy Spirit Christian believers in Jesus Christ and I will then get to rise to meet Jesus Christ in the air and I will then be with Jesus forever and forever, Amen! I can hardly wait for that day to come.

It vexes my spirit to hear about "all" of the "evil" that is going on down here on the Earth.

[So, Deborah, how long were you dead for when you'd been murdered by homosexuals and atheists? A day? A week? 6 months?]

I was killed by electric shock. Their intention was to try and get me to deny Jesus Christ as my personal Savior and as the only Lord of my life, but I just kept right on refusing and they kept on increasing the voltage until it literally killed me.

My eternal spirit with my eternal soul left my body and I remembered looking back at my body lying dead on the hospital bed, and then I went straight to Heaven where I found myself standing before the throne of God.

Deborah Hazelip, Facebook Creationism group 34 Comments [6/4/2014 3:06:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Fawful

Quote# 101318

I describe the red California wine Vista Point Cabernet Sauvignon here, where I also discuss Dionysus, the God of Wine.

Vista Point wineries in southern California also have a white wine. Their Vista Point Pinot Grigio is: "Light, crisp & refreshing with citrus & apple notes & pleasant acidity."

When I had it, I could taste the light and crisp notes, but there was some substance to the wine. Many inexpensive whites tend to have an insipid, watery taste, or an acrid aftertaste. This is actually pretty perfect. I think it is the apple that gives it substance. It tastes like a green apple, perhaps a Granny Smith.

I took my C. S. Lewis Mere Christianity along. I will write a short report in my next post on my reading. Lewis is surprisingly original, and generously optimistic in his book.

I asked the waitress to give me the name of the wine (they just wrote it as "Vista Point White" in the menu). She brought the bottle to show me. Later, while I was busy reading and writing notes, she showed up with a bottle of red wine and another glass. "I wanted to have you taste our new red," she says.

How am I supposed to "taste" another wine while I have one already before me? This is the crassness of our current civilization. First, this waitress showed no respect for me, interrupting me while I was occupied. Second she brings another wine, mostly as a sales gimmick. Third, the level of her voice was so high, that I actually jumped when she spoke. Fourth, she is from another culture (she looks Chinese, although she speaks with a fluent English and with no accent). Her lack of understanding of wine, wine culture, and table etiquette arises from this alien culture of which she is a part. I doubt she is really interested in wine (or the food in the restaurant, for that matter), because they don't relate to her background and how she lives (and plans to live) her life in Canada. Multiculturalism, rather than bring people together, has actually pulled them apart, with each culture living in its own cocoon, and ignoring or even maligning the historical white culture.

I just waived my hand to say no, and for her to leave. I could feel the fury of Dionysus, who I felt was protecting me during this unpleasant interlude. The manager of the restaurant, a Scots/Irish (I asked him if his name was English, and he adamantly told me that it was Scots/Irish), is pleasant to me after I emailed him and the restaurant's head office about these unschooled waitresses. It's not making much of a difference. Now, I simply ask for the Caucasian waitresses, who are calmer and more attentive. I don't think that is simply a matter of training, but of culture as well.

Kidist Asrat, Reclaiming Beauty 41 Comments [6/4/2014 3:06:09 AM]
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Quote# 101312

[cultureshift posts an article from Scientific American about a study that showed fetal cells migrate around the host's body during pregnancy.]

This study has discovered the existence of unborn children's cells living within their mother's bodies long after their birth. This implies that even after a mother aborts her son or daughter, parts of them still remain within her body - literally.

You may be able to have your unborn child mercilessly ripped from your womb, but you cannot fully extract them from your mind and body. They will always be a part of you.

[...]

This may explain why women live longer than men. On average, women in the United States live to 81, while men only live to 76. The health benefits, both physically and mentally, of birthing a child far outweigh the benefits of slaughtering one.

cultureshift, In Defense of the Defenseless 17 Comments [6/4/2014 3:03:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 101307

Television preacher Pat Robertson on Tuesday advised a viewer — and his co-host — that they were “supposed to” reward their husbands with sex for helping with chores around the house.

A viewer named Carol wrote into the 700 Club because she said her husband “respects Pat’s opinion,” and she hoped the televangelist would side with her regarding a dispute about house cleaning.

“[M]y husband has always felt the need to point out when he helps with chores around the house,” the woman explained. “When he washes the floor, or does anything else, he always says, ‘Remember, I did that for you.’”

The viewer argued that her husband should stop viewing chores as a favor.

“I feel since we both live in the same house, he isn’t only helping me but the family,” she said.

Unfortunately, Robertson probably did not give the woman the answer she was looking for.

“Here’s the deal,” he said. “You’ve got to understand the male psyche. The male wants to do something for his wife. He wants to provide for his family, he wants to provide a home, he wants to provide shelter, and food. That’s what he feels his male obligation is. And when he cleans up, it’s saying, I love you.”

“And you’re supposed to say to him, ‘Darling, you are wonderful, and I love you too,’” the evangelist continued. “Instead of that, you’re saying, ‘We’ve got a deal. We have a partnership.’ Now, do you want to have a loving, warm, sensuous, exciting marriage or do you want to have a partnership? And would you like to have a business relationship with your spouse? And that’s what you’re asking for.”

Although CBN co-host Terry Meeuwsen didn’t buy Robertson’s advice, she called it a “wonderful perspective,” and she publicly thanked her husband for doing the dishes.

“He’s saying, I love you!” Robertson insisted. “Each dish, he’s saying, ‘Terry, I love you.’ If you understood that, you say, ‘Darling, I’ve got a treat for you… wait until we get behind closed doors, and you see the treat I have for you.’”

“You got it?” he asked Meeuwsen. “How to have a happy marriage, according to Pat.”

Pat Robertson, The Raw Story 41 Comments [6/3/2014 3:29:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 101306

On Saturday, the Religious Right movement’s favorite rabbi, Daniel Lapin, devoted a segment of his weekly radio show to “liberalism’s love affair with Islam,” part of a running theme among right-wing activists about a purported alliance between progressives and radical Islamists. Lapin said that unlike conservatism, “liberalism is incredibly feminine” and as a result “loves [the] hard masculinity” found in Islam.

“If there is one thing that Islam has proven itself to be, certainly in recent years and even longer ago than that, it is very masculine, it is violent, it is aggressive, it is dominating and it is very firm and very confident and very sure of itself, all of these very masculine characteristics,” Lapin said.

“I believe that liberalism is drawn to it, I think liberals want to be seduced by Islam, I think liberals lay themselves down before masculine strength,” he said, continuing with the sexual analogy. “There is a reason that it is biologically impossible for a woman to rape a man, it can’t be done. And I do believe that a good deal of liberalism’s supine nature with respect to Islam, liberalism’s docility in the face of Islam, has to do with a deep desire to yield to strength.”

Daniel Lapin, Right Wing Watch 52 Comments [6/3/2014 3:29:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 101299

Mr. Martinez, “When will enough people say, “Stop this madness! We don’t have to live like this!”?

While it is understood that Mr. Martinez is emotionally distraught, for who wouldn’t be, after losing a child, Mr. Martinez is failing to logically connect the dots.

When a society walks away from God, and then condones or puts into law those very things which pander to the baser nature of man, then the only outcome of such ignorance is that we MUST “live like this!” Nihilism and death is the end result. There are no other alternatives.

Mr. Martinez, “Too many have died!”

Not necessarily. But, for the grace of God, many more could have died, not only in California, but elsewhere, like Colorado, Massachusetts, and Illinois. Yet, are we paying attention? One would be hard pressed to think we are, given the kind of unreasonable rants like those in Mr. Martinez’s press conference.

Finally, Mr. Martinez bellowed, “We should say to ourselves NOT ONE MORE!”

Living in a dreamworld is not going to solve anything. Even if every state upheld the right to bear arms and open carry, not conceal and carry, and then resolved to do things God’s way, there would still be the Elliot Rodgers to contend with. There may not be as many, but they would still be with us.

While it is with sadness that seven more young lives were senselessly taken, this really comes as no surprise. Contemporary America is ripe for this kind of tragedy, as well as others.

Too many assume to be “normal,” when the reality is, they share the same narcissistic, atheistic, damnable worldview as Elliot Rodger. They just have not picked up a gun, knife, rope, ax, hacksaw, beer bottle, box cutter, razor blade, or whatever to express their lost, self-centered, violent disposition yet. Instead, they demonstrate it with words and other actions.

Elliot Rodger is dead. He took six others with him. But, Richard Martinez’s rationalization was equally dead on arrival. Unfortunately, his victims are still waiting to be counted.


Paul Derengowski, Christian Apologetics Project 53 Comments [6/2/2014 3:25:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 101296

I thought all you evil buggers might enjoy this.

Atheists Are Worse Than Satanists
1. Satanists Beleive In God:
To beleive in Satan one must also beleive in God. This means that even though Satanists worship Lucifer they still acknowledge the existence of God while atheists do not. The worst sin ever is not beleiving in God so Atheists are pure evil.
2. Atheists Are Homosexuals While Satanists Are Not:
Even the leader of the church of Satan himself (Anton Levy) still had a wife. Due to Atheists love of Science and Witchcraft they are attracted to members of the same species and become Gays and lesbians. The Bible says that homosexuality is the worst sin ever and that atheists will suffer in hell worse then murderers.
3. Atheists offer more ritual sacrifices than Satanists:
Satanists rarely offer human sacrifices but Atheists do it all the time. They murder millions all in the name of there lord “Science” including: monkeys, animals, mice, humans, and african americans.Satanists are evil but they would never send monkeys into space while Atheists sacrifice thousands of monkeys in they’re science experiments.
4. Atheists Try to Become Gods:
- Satanists listen to heavy metal but they do not build robots and clone sheep.
- Satanists wear black clothing but they do not try to prevent God from giving people Aids.
- Atheists believe in aliens but Satanists know that the only earth contains life.
- Atheists are Feminists but at least Satanists know that women are here to serve Man.

Atheists are more evil then Satanists but
Feminists are more evil then Atheists.
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Jesus Returning , Church of Illumination 70 Comments [6/2/2014 3:25:11 AM]
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Submitted By: nigelD

Quote# 101290

Which is harder to believe, that one set of God-made parents led to the human population, or a string of happy accidents made us (as the Athiests maintain)?

But, where Atheists get themselves really twisted up is when they maintain that one can be an evolutionist and yet believe in moral behavior and non-violence (as many of them claim to). When in fact, to be consistent with Darwinian theory one must do away with the genetically infirm, or at least not interfere with their elimination by natural means - for the "good" of the species and its progression (or so the theory says). Even Darwin himself recognized that his theory would lead to some form of eugenics, eventually.

Atheism is a very brutish religion

Stratagem, Pyromaniacs:Friends of Sinners 46 Comments [6/2/2014 3:23:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 101287

The biblical global Flood happened about 4,350 years ago. The Epic of Gilgamesh, which contains a distorted account of the Flood, was written down in Mesopotamia, in the general region from which Abraham came. And it was probably written down on clay tablets at a time closer to Abraham’s day than to Moses’ time. Moses, inspired by God (2 Peter 1:21), wrote down the authentic account of the Flood, and it is preserved in the book of Genesis. Tyson asserts that the Akkadian epic, because it was written earlier than the Mosaic account, was the source of the Old Testament account. However, the source was the shared history of a real global Flood, not a shared piece of literature.

The biblical historical account, recorded under the inspiration of God by Moses, is completely believable in all its details. This genuine history in Genesis 6–9 and the distorted version adapted from Sumerian legends and preserved in the Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh report on the same historical event. Therefore, the fact that there are some similarities is easily understood.

In contrast to the Gilgamesh epic, the authenticity of the biblical account is supported by internal consistency of the Scriptural account, the consistency of the Scriptural account with the worldwide geological evidence of the Flood, the scientific confirmation of the biblical global Flood in every detail, and the consistency of the Scriptural account of the Flood’s survivors with other recorded history. The capricious and unseemly nature of the gods in the Gilgamesh epic stand in sharp contrast to the just, holy, and merciful character of God in the authentic biblical account. There is no justification for supposing the true history in the Bible to be a spin-off of the Gilgamesh epic.


Dr. Elizabeth Mitchell, Answers in Genesis 47 Comments [6/2/2014 3:06:22 AM]
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Quote# 101286

[It's an older article, but it was just recently promoted on AiG's Facebook page]

Today, missionaries working in animist, Hindu, and Buddhist cultures, as well as other societies where voodoo and witchcraft are widespread, do often see things that may reflect the demonic activity described in the Bible. The West has its share of Satan worshippers, too, who overtly practice occult rituals.

Some rock groups and other contemporary music groups over the past few decades have even been openly satanic. Yet demonic possession is seldom noted. Evidently, demons rarely show themselves in the same way in the “enlightened” Western world. But it may also be that the West’s anti-supernatural mentality keeps us from recognizing their activity.

Indeed, the West’s increasing opposition to belief in the supernatural is an even stronger indication of demonic deception.

From the beginning of time, views that question God’s authority have had a demonic or satanic origin. When he deceived Eve in the garden, Satan became “the god of this age” who “has blinded the minds of unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 4:4, NIV) and who “deceives the whole world” (Revelation 12:9). Paul tells us that whenever people sacrifice to idols, they are actually sacrificing to demons (1 Corinthians 10:19–20). That is as true today as it was in Old Testament times and the days of Jesus and Paul.

Demonic activity is not limited to obvious visitations and dramatic displays of possession. Paul warned Christians about doctrines of demons infiltrating the church (1 Timothy 4:1), and he said that Satan could disguise himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:11–14). Not long ago in American history, for instance, Joseph Smith claimed to have received the doctrines of Mormonism from an “angel of light.” If that claim is true, the angel must have been a demon, because he taught a false gospel.1

In his well-documented book, The Long War Against God, the late Dr. Henry Morris argues that evolution itself is a very ancient idea that ultimately can be traced back to the Garden of Eden, when Satan questioned God’s truthfulness. The widespread acceptance of evolution (including millions of years and the big bang) is strong evidence of the continuing work of Satan and demons.


Dr. Terry Mortensen, Answers in Genesis 41 Comments [6/1/2014 12:32:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 101283

[Refering to the continuing media coverage of the Duck Dynasty patriarch]

"SHOWING RESPECT FOR MAINSTREAM BRAIN-DEAD MEDIA BIGOTS PROVES YOU IDOLIZE GOVERNMENT-WORSHIPING SATANIC DEGENERATES AND DESPISE LORD JESUS CHRIST. YOU BETTER LEARN HOW TO IDENTIFY ANTI-GOD IDIOTS BY THEIR WORDS AND ACTIONS BEFORE ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE." – The Man From Tennessee

James Reesor, WND 31 Comments [6/1/2014 12:31:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 101281

Reality television psychologist Dr. Robi Ludwig asserted to Fox News that a mass shooting in California over the weekend may have been triggered because the suspect could not cope with his “homosexual impulses.”

In a videos posted on YouTube, 22-year-old Elliot Rodger explained that he had planned a shooting rampage to get retribution on women for rejecting him.

“All you girls who rejected me and looked down upon me and treated me like scum, while you gave yourself to other men,” Rodger said just hours before gunning down six people near UC Santa Barbara’s campus. “And all of you men for living a better life than me. All of you sexually active men. I hate you.”

By late Saturday night, Ludwig was speculating to Fox News that Rodger’s gay feelings had turned him into a mass murderer.

“When I was first listening to him, I was like, ‘Oh, he’s angry with women for rejecting him,’” Ludwig recalled. “And then I started to have a different idea: Is this somebody who is trying to fight against his homosexual impulses?’”

“Was he angry with women because they were taking away men from him?” she continued. “But this is a kid who couldn’t connect, and felt enraged, and wanted to obliterate anyone that made him feel like a nothing.”

Ludwig later declared that Roger’s could have been “angry at the men for not choosing him.”

“This was just a kid that was angry in general. He probably felt rejected, he couldn’t connect, he couldn’t feel loved, he couldn’t feel successful. Maybe he couldn’t even feel like a real man.”

Robi Ludwig, Fox News Channel 48 Comments [6/1/2014 12:29:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Scourge

Quote# 101280

Identified as Elliot Rodger..he just states how he is regulary rejected by AW.

Many months ago,i wrote many messages saying that the United States has no solution to the"female problem".

Males are destined to spend lonely life,being raped on courts,forced to submit entering in relationship with low level woman who are very overrated compared to what they really are.
These shooting will continue and the circus will go on.

So you see,some dudes being cornered react by using violence,a trap well constructed there and they don't realize the happier abroad opportunity.

The US is a perfect ground to be a sociopath..thanks to this dysfunctional society and thanks to the women who live there who are for many of them monsters.

Green1976, Happier Abroad 23 Comments [6/1/2014 12:28:15 AM]
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Quote# 101278

If I could only end one thing, it would be sodomy. Rape is a sin, but at least it is not accepted. The allowance and acceptance of sodomites will doom us all.

ChristAboveAll, devaintArt 40 Comments [6/1/2014 12:27:33 AM]
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Submitted By: katrinahood

Quote# 101274

"Elliot Rodger and a note for new arrivals"

What happened is punishment for evil and violence of feminists and liberals. Any of you supporting atrocities like women’s suffrage, immodest clothing, child support/alimony, no ban on adultery, ban on prostitution and a lack of female premarital chastity, all the things that drove this young man to be unable to find a girlfriend, are disgusting , horrible people and you created a culture where this is possible. Renounce these horrors now. It is a decent thing to do. It will make you healthy and sane again. It will make the world healthy and sane again.

thatincelblogger, That Incel Blogger 132 Comments [6/1/2014 12:26:37 AM]
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Quote# 101272

Ensoulment, if/when it occurs, is theological/metaphysical question. Abortion is murder because it is the unjust death of a living human being; whether or not the baby has a soul is irrelevant. Otherwise, it wouldn't be murder to kill an atheist.

JoAnna Wahlund, Chicks on the Right 20 Comments [6/1/2014 12:25:08 AM]
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Submitted By: physalis17