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Quote# 102609

God, nothing reminds me of why I hate leftists more than reading a feminist. No great culture or civilization has ever valued equality, at least not as modern leftists conceive it, especially not equality between men and women. Nature doesn’t do equal.

The ultimate, and irrefutable argument against feminism is simple demographics. When men stop being dominant and authoritarian women lose the instinct to breed – women subconsciously view egalitarian males as unworthy mates. Birth rates collapse and the race goes extinct. All the nations which have embraced feminism are demographically and culturally imploding and will soon join Dar Al-Islam.

Bruce, Occident Invicta 23 Comments [8/11/2014 3:28:03 AM]
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Quote# 102607

Now this Ebola epidemic can become a global pandemic and that’s another name for plague. It may be the great attitude adjustment that I believe is coming. Ebola could solve America’s problems with atheism, homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, pornography and abortion...If Ebola becomes a global plague, you better make sure the blood of Jesus is upon you, you better make sure you have been marked by the angels so that you are protected by God. If not, you may be a candidate to meet the Grim Reaper.

Rick Wiles, Right Wing Watch 46 Comments [8/11/2014 3:27:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 102597

As the title implies, I'm going to look at the "gay-rights" arguments that really scrape the bottom of the barrel. I hope that whatever side of the debate your on, you can agree that these arguments don't hold water. To emphasize this, I'm going to try to sound as neutral as possible.

1. Separation of Church and State is in the Constitution. So you can't use Christian morality to outlaw same-sex marriage.

This argument stems from a misunderstanding of what Separation of Church and State is. The phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution. It was in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a church that was worried Jefferson would force his Deism on the churches. Jefferson assured them the first amendment would protect their freedom. So the question is, what does the first amendment do? It prevents the government from establishing a state religion. Outlawing same-sex marriage does not establish a religion. It doesn't force anyone to become a Christian anymore than it forces them to be Jewish, Muslim, Mormon or any other faith that sees homosexuality as sin. Also, it doesn't prevent anyone from using their religion to motivate their politics. If you truly believe your religion, it should influence your decisions or you should consider if you truly believe it or not. You want real Separation of Church and State? How about having the government butt out of marriage entirely since it finds its origin in religion and different religions have different views of marriage anyway (e.g. Islam and some forms of Mormonism permit polygamy.)

2. The way things are, the LGBT community are 2nd class citizens.

No they aren't. They have the same rights everyone else does. Including marriage. To elaborate, a homosexual can marry someone of the opposite sex, but not someone of the same sex. And a heterosexual can marry someone of the opposite sex, but not the same sex. We have equal rights. The LGBT goal would make more sense if they asked for a new right since the equality they ask for already exist.

3. It's unconstitutional to out-law same-sex marriage since marriage is a right.

Marriage is not a right, it's a privilege. If you read the Constitution you'd know that. And again, my previous points stand.

4. Homosexuality is accepted by the majority as normal and thus, no longer immoral.

First off, I doubt the claim at the majority support it since most states ban same-sex marriage and (as of this writing) only 17 states allow it. Last I checked, 17 out of 50 was not a majority. Second, even if that was true, to say that the population decides right and wrong is insane at best and dangerous at worst. There was a time when slavery was considered acceptable by many. Years before even that it was common for people to rape the women of the country they conquered. Was any of this right? (Rhetorical question. If you answer "yes", please see a therapist.) To quote Leo Tolstoy:
Wrong doesn't cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.-Leo Tolstoy
5. People are born homosexual, so it would be wrong to not allow them what they want.

Some scientists speculate the same thing about alcoholics, drug-addicts and sociopaths. Does that make what they do right? (Again, a rhetorical question.) If this were true, these conditions would be more like diseases. But as someone I know (who was an alcoholic) put it, what he did wasn't totally involuntary. He chose to get drunk just as he chose to stop and ultimately kick alcoholic beverages out of his life all together. Just as people have left the LGBT lifestyle.

6. What about infertile couples? They can't have children either and your Bible says marriage is for having babies.

This argument is a reply to oft-quoted argument against same-sex marriage by pointing out that same-sex couples can't naturally produce a child. There counterpoint, however, is a strawman. This may shock some people, but the Bible says sex (in wedlock) was not only for child rearing but for pleasure. It was designed to be a beautiful experience... then humanity ruined it like everything else. Proof? Song of Songs. :iconnuffsaidplz: Besides, homosexual behavior causes serious health problem. HIV being only a tip of the ice-berg. An infertile couple is still natural and, as long as they are being responsible and faithful, they won't contract STDs.

7. People used religion (i.e. Christianity) to justify not letting interracial couples marriage.

Those people were also stupid. The Bible is shown to be very anti-racist, including having interracial couples (like Ruth and Boaz.) And another thing, PLEASE stop equating what you do to the way other people look. It's nonsensical at best and insensitive at worst.
For more info, click here: townhall.com/columnists/michae…
8. If you don't support the LGBT, you're homophobic!

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.- Inigo Montoya, "The Princess Bride."
Furthermore, if someone was in a lifestyle that was harmful wouldn't you try to convince them out of it? We do this with alcoholics, why not homosexuals? Especially since homosexual behavior brings damage that makes alcoholic damage look miniscule. Frankly, I could argue I love and care for them more than those who try to push for this behavior.

9. Legalizing gay marriage won't affect anyone.

I think the redefinition of mankind's oldest and most important institution would affect everyone. Also, some LGBT advocates agree it is to affect everyone as to make people stop viewing homosexuality negatively. Now I know some of you are saying, "Not THAT kind of effect." Sinful acts never just affect one or two people, it often affects whole communities and even countries. Achan's sin in Joshua 7, and David's sin in 2 Samuel 24 are a couple good examples. As for some modern examples, Spain and Argentina have greatly deteriorated the family structure ever since same-sex marriage was allowed. In the Netherlands, there is a decline in marriage rates even though same-sex marriage is allowed. To help explain my point (on this topic and others), I recommend the book "Homosexuality ad the Truth of Politics." Now before you shoot this down as biased, there are LGBT advocates that agree with this book. In fact, the leader of H.O.P.E. (Homosexuals Oppose Pride Extremism) wishes that this book was required reading in schools!

Also, this journal explains the problems of same-sex parenting.


Any thoughts? Do you agree? If not, why? Did I miss any? Leave your thoughts in the comments and please act like an adult.

hisarcher19, deviantArt 33 Comments [8/10/2014 7:55:43 AM]
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Quote# 102595

One of our local petty luminaries, Bill Nye the “science guy,” recently lectured parents about teaching their children to believe in Creationism, saying that they are bad for doing so. Here in a West Coast city (Nye got his public career started in Seattle), bashing religious conservatives is about as brave as stomping on baby bunnies, but for some reason people always receive applause for doing so anyway.

As is often the case, Nye is wrong about a number of things, such as the claim that denial of evolution is unique to the US (plenty of Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and people of other faiths all over the world have the same or their own Creation beliefs).

Anyway, it got me to thinking about the issue, and while I do accept evolution and don’t believe the world is only a few thousand years old, I don’t see why Creationism is any more damaging to children – or society in general – than the idea that all people are created equal, which is widely accepted despite being untrue (at least in the literal sense).

Additionally, it’s a lot less harmful than the “progressive” idea that gender is a social construct, which continues to be taught in universities across the land, despite being a harmful lie.

Another thing to consider is that if you do accept evolution as scientific fact, Creationism and associated religious faith fits right into the concept of natural selection, as faith is an adaptive trait. People who are believers have larger families, and therefore propagate more of their genes. If natural selection is a good thing, and leftists do tend to attach moral significance to it, then what’s wrong with adopting a strategy that provides an advantage, even if it consciously contradicts scientific wisdom?

I think the reason Creationism bothers leftists is just that: it gives their competitors an edge, while their own popular fallacies and illogical beliefs do the opposite.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 32 Comments [8/10/2014 7:55:28 AM]
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Quote# 102590

Anyone who really loves God doesn't go against His Word (and God warns about homosexual behavior numerous times in Scripture). Anyone who truly loves his neighbor would legislate righteous laws to protect them from this extremely harmful behavior known as homosexuality.

aCultureWarrior, TheologyOnline 22 Comments [8/10/2014 7:29:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Persephone 66

Quote# 102581

Calvinism in New England was scorned by the heresy of Unitarianism, which deemed itself holier, but Unitarianism only lasted about a generation before it collapsed into Emersonian subjectivist Transcendentalism, which then swiftly (in less than a generation) collapsed into politics (abolition, feminism etc).

If we look at the New Testament position on slavery it is of course passivist and pacifist. Christians are encouraged, but not required, to free their slaves. Slaves are discouraged from rebelling and running away. Masters are required to be benevolent.

What happened when many Christian Churches adopted an activist position on slavery, a clearly heretical position on slavery?

An activist position on slavery requires war. War requires dreadful means, requires lies, terror, murder, and artificial famine – all in an undeniably good cause, of course.

Lo and behold, those churches that adopted an activist position against slavery ceased to be Christian. So that heresy, quite predictably, turned deadly.

But, once anti slavery became the law of the land, then a good Christian should of course support that law, so anti slavery did not destroy Christianity.

But now, however pretty much all Churches, have adopted the modern marriage vows, implying a clearly heretical position on marriage, which vows undermine and disrupt marriage, which in turn results in preaching that is fundamentally hostile to marriage as a binding contract.

Equality requires fences, that is to say, requires the dissolution of marriage. An actually functioning marriage is always patriarchal. Show me a man who picks up fifty percent of the socks, and I will show you a man who sleeps on the couch, while once a week or so his wife’s lover drops in to rough her up and take her money.

A genuinely Christian Church can no more support modern marriage, than it could support holy war on slavery. In so doing, is necessarily holier than Jesus, and so, runs through unitarianism to vagueness to leftism, and the Church building is remodeled to become a left wing bookstore.

The modern position on wedding vows is leading to pretty much the same consequences as the activist position on slavery did.

Jim, Jim's Blog 22 Comments [8/10/2014 3:49:32 AM]
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Quote# 102577

Every sincere Roman or Orthodox Catholic is going to split the fires of Hell wide open and scream in agony, begging for mercy from the torment, flames and tongue-gnawing pain, but God will ignore them just as they ignored His Word for a lifetime on earth. You can get mad at me all you want to, it doesn't change anything. You will still burn in Hell if you die in your sins. I'm the best friend you have right now if you're not saved, because I'm telling you the truth to try to get you saved. You can get made at me if you'd like, but you're the fool, not me. Do you want to burn forever in Hell?

A recent USA TODAY poll showed that 59% of Americans don't believe in Hell, and 74% believe in Heaven. Another poll, done by the Barna Research Group showed that 62% of Americans don't believe in a literal Devil'; but rather, think Satan is a mere symbol of evil. But, Satan has them duped! Ironically, world leaders and countless famous celebrities DO believe in Satan! Watch this Signs Of Satan video. Check out this article on the heavy-metal Satan-worshipping band, IRON MAIDEN. It's insane that the average working man denies the existence of Satan, while world leaders serve, worship and sacrifice to the Devil.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 41 Comments [8/10/2014 3:48:55 AM]
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Quote# 102576

I can actually fathom the reasoning behind their decision. Under existing SCOTUS decisions you can not discriminate in a venue like a mall that is quasi-public. Even though it is private property, you can not use one of several reasons to exclude someone from entering. Things like skin color, sex. national origin and other protected characteristics.

Now, if they let Christians pray, then they would also have to let muslums pray. They would have those nasty people sticking their barely-wiped rumps up in the air while sliming their disgusting faces all over their so-called prayer cloths. And they would be anywhere on the concourse of food court or in the middle of a store when one of their pig-demon leaders called them to bow before Satan.

Life would be easier and a whole lot more fun if part of the traditional muslum dress included pants with targets on the rear.

stevecrisp, WND  21 Comments [8/10/2014 3:48:20 AM]
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Submitted By: PhillipaFry

Quote# 102573

[Another fundie has replied to SoG's rant, saying that the Palestinian people aren't "invented", and telling him that we aren't living in OT times and that he comes across as bloodthirsty.]

It does not matter. As long as the Palestinians exist they will hate and try to destroy Israel. It is no different than if the US were sane and did what needed to be done against terrorism, wipe them all out within hesitation. This is not an individual, but national level we are talking about.

What is different about today than in olden days? If you think about it...nothing. Only modern (western) man has changed. If you look at scripture it speaks of things(old and new testament) that modern man has a problem with. I think thinking like people of old is more sane, and more realistic, than modern man.

That is what I think I don't mean to come across as cold, but I am being honest, this is really what I think and I don't want to lie and say something that is what people expect to hear..I do that too often.

I know that common wisdom would agree with you, but is that accurate or correct? Is it biblical? That is what I want to know. I don't think the Old Testament is any less valid than the new(the distinction is artificial). What we are seeing is a nation(Israel) all alone getting hit by rockets from a group backed by nations who will stop at nothing to destroy them. There should be no ceasefires for such people. Doesn't seeing how the world is reacting anger you?

Sometimes the right thing doesn't feel good. This is one of those times.

SwordofGeddo, Rapture Ready 24 Comments [8/10/2014 3:47:36 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 102572

[SwordofGeddo started thread by asking the others if they thought that Israel should kill all the Palestinians like they used to kill entire populations in the OT. Some fundies replied rationally and said "No!"]

But there is scripture that says Gaza will be destroyed. The "Palestinians" are an invented people and merely a tool to destroy Israel, do not forget that.

If God decried that the inhabitants of the promised land be destroyed, and God does not change, than what would be wrong if the Palestinians were to be completely destroyed today? If they keep protecting and promoting Hamas and war against Israel and never change(and they won't) then why is it wrong to neutralize this threat permanently? As some have pointed out very astutely in the other thread, the Atomic bomb was dropped because the US had no other choice, that is why it was not immoral.

And if the surrounding nations don't like it, than they will have to go against God himself because he will protect his chosen people. The Bible speaks of this happening.

SwordofGeddo, Rapture Ready 20 Comments [8/10/2014 3:47:30 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 102571

The left hates the exceptional and hates the successful

This is why Israel is "evil" and the terrorists who want to kill them are "noble freedom fighters." This is why western culture is "imperialistic" when it spreads, but when foreign cultures move into your neighborhood and start trying to run the show where you live, it's "diversity."

Leftism is masochistic. The most basic impulses in its shriveled little heart are the same that cause religious fanatics to self-flagellate.

apregnantlesbian, IMDB 12 Comments [8/10/2014 3:46:51 AM]
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Quote# 102569

["So I had an abortion at 16. I felt like crap after but I was okay mentally. At 21 I gave up my second baby for adoption and spiraled into depression and was hospitalized. Abortion would have been a better choice, honestly. When I got to a better place mentally I got pregnant again and now, at 26, my daughter is cooing in her crib. I don't regret my abortion, but I regret adopting my son out instead if just getting the abortion. But, adoption is 'so much better' as you say."]

This disgusting human being actually regrets that she failed to kill her son because knowing that he is alive and happy with someone else makes her feel bad!! What have we become??? WHAT THE FUCK HAVE WE BECOME????

This person perfectly represents what the legalized slaughter of our unborn children has done to our humanity. Imagine if abortion is ever destigmatized and normalized. It would be a sickness our society may never be able to recover from.

If this mother's sentiment toward the child she killed and the child she failed to kill revolts you, then it's time for you to finally stand up and fight back against the depraved act of human abortion. It's time to reclaim our humanity.

["I understand that the person's testimony is upsetting, but is insulting the person the response we should give? I would think a slightly more cool-headed approach would have been better."]

I appreciate your stance, but to be brutally honest, people like you are exactly the reason why our society has tolerated the slaughter of the unborn members of our human family for over forty years. Your kind of thinking is why the land that promised Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness has destroyed over 56,000,000 of its little preborn boys and girls.

If this mother had expressed remorse over having killed her toddler and had expressed her regret at not having killed her six year old, would you be so kind? If 5,000 newborns were being killed each and every hour across the world, as unborn children are, would you continue to sit back and admonish those fighting for their lives because they might be insulting to those swinging the blade?

If you truly believe that abortion kills living human beings, and it does, then you need to start acting like it and fight as though your own life is on the line. Only then will we be able to bring the killing to an end.

Stand for Life without fear.

cultureshift, In Defense of the Defenseless 14 Comments [8/10/2014 3:46:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 102564

News comes now from Africa that many of their countries are declaring a State of Emergency due to the deadly Ebola virus: http://www.trust.org/item/20140730235718-3w6ds/?source=jtOtherNews2

GodSmack!

Instead of asking God to heal them, they ask the “international community”! No wonder God hates these nations, and sent the little trembling lambs from @WBCSays to warn them all via www.Godhatestheworld.com.

Listen up, and heed Africa, and all surrounding and/or inclusive factions, kindred, tongues, tribes, etc:

Deuteronomy 32:39-41See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever. If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.

Westboro Baptist Church, WBC blogs 21 Comments [8/10/2014 3:44:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 102562

Scientific Facts in the Bible

If the Bible isn’t inspired by God, explain why it insists that newborn males be circumcised on the eighth day (Genesis 17:12). Medical science wouldn’t discover for thousands of years that prothrombin (essential for clotting) is at its peak on that day.

Or explain how it is that 2,700 years ago the Scriptures said, “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth” (Isaiah 40:22). At a time when science believed the earth was flat, it was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world.

About 3,000 years ago the Bible asked, “Can you send out lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, ‘Here we are!’?” (Job 38:35). We now know that sound can be sent at the speed of light so that we can instantly communicate with someone across the globe. Science didn’t discover this until 1864.

Over 3,000 years ago, the Bible said to wash under running water when dealing with disease (Leviticus 15:13). Until the mid-1800s doctors washed their hands in a bowl of still water, leaving invisible germs, spreading diseases and resulting in the deaths of multitudes.

If the Bible isn’t God-inspired, explain how the writer of the Book of Job knew around 3,000 years ago that the earth “hangs...on nothing” (Job 26:7)—thousands of years before science discovered that this massive earth does indeed freely float in space.

How did the Bible writers know over 3,000 years ago that “the life of the flesh is in the blood” (Leviticus 17:11)? It wasn’t until the advent of the microscope that science understood the vital interaction between blood and flesh—that every 23 seconds the blood cleanses and nourishes each cell in the body.

Or explain how over 3,000 years ago Scripture prescribed quarantining (Leviticus 13:1–8). Up until the 17th century, those with contagious diseases stayed in the same rooms as the rest of the family, and doctors were mystified about how diseases spread so rapidly.

The Bible proves itself to be inspired by God. It is His Instruction Book for humanity, and that’s why we must listen to it when it warns that after we die we have to face Him in judgment.

Adapted from, “The Evidence Bible”

Ray Comfort, Facebook 38 Comments [8/10/2014 3:44:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 102561

The difference between the tooth fairy and Darwinian evolution (as Richard Dawkins likes to call it) is that kids are eventually told the truth about the tooth fairy.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 27 Comments [8/10/2014 3:44:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 102559

The democratic process better work soon or it isn't going to work at all. Demographics are not on our side. If we don't vote them out now, we will have to shoot them out later.

I disagree. If they remain in power for too long despite the myriad forces likely to unseat them(they're intent on antagonizing the tech sector that got them where they are, they're overreaching to an absurd degree which has spelled disaster in the past, and the youth are becoming jaded with them[particularly the ones likely to pursue economic power and useful skills]), there's still the matter of them being unable to create a fiscally stable government. As a rule of thumb, a party with half of voters but eighty percent of gov't housing recipients cannot survive without those who voted against it, nor do they likely have the wealth, collective intelligence, or even basic physical fitness(http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-05/study-finds-correlation-between-fiscal-conservatism-and-big-biceps) to attack and loot us.

If you feel as if you're getting deja - vu, it's because this was/is the exact case of Detroit. The left achieved political dominance, and their media heralded a brave new era. Quickly, things came to pieces and the city became a hellhole, with all useful members high - tailing it to the edges and then declaring them separate jurisdictions. Today, these suburbs and outer cities are wealthy, successful, and largely crime free, and contain many people as well as much wealth. So it would be with America, with the vast areas of red declaring themselves separate, enjoying the flow of fleeing contributors from the brain - drained blue cities, and quickly returning to everyday life. The only thing that would truly change would be that we'd have slightly(and I mean very slightly, look at a map of congressional districts if you get the time) less land, and we'd still have all of the good parts so it's no big problem.

If you're worried about the UN or some other international bogeyman stopping this from occurring, consider that the ivory tower cosmopolitans still dislike the idea of a global economic crisis that would get them hung by their people, and that their best(And by best, I mean only) means of averting this is by not only enabling but facilitating this 'velvet revolution'.

Ieperithem, Nationstates 12 Comments [8/10/2014 3:44:02 AM]
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Quote# 102558

Let's face it – handing children over to gays to be raised is as much abuse as is locking them in hot cars for hours on end. In fact, it's even worse – you can rescue a child from a car and make sure it never happens to him or her again, but once you start yielding to the fallacies that facilitate gay adoption and start allowing judges to force it into place via judicial fiat, you are handing children over to on-going, endemic abuse that will last for the next 18 years.

Tim Duncan, Renew America 17 Comments [8/10/2014 3:43:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 102554

Why should atheists have rights?

Consider these facts:
90% of atheists will be involved in a violent altercaction in their life
60% of atheists are sexually perverted (abg)
When asked if they would forgive a human being for their sins, 90% of atheists said no
When asked if they respect the law, 59% of atheists said no
When asked if they would spit on Jesus, 85% of atheists said yes
40% of atheists admit to finding horses attractive

"Patriarchy", Yahoo Answers 90 Comments [8/8/2014 3:18:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Jake Gobbett

Quote# 102551

In response to a member who said "Giving the fetus the same rights as the woman carrying it [was]outrageous and un-America[n]" for the 150 years abortion was illegal in the U.S.:

Can you prove it? Where you there?

Wasn't this country built on Judeo/Christians morals and values?

Didn't the majority of States vote and FIGHT against slavery because they knew it was un-American and Un Christian?

Approving of the sacrifice of unborn children is UN American and UN Christian.

So those who approve of abortion and homosexuality/Gay marriage are UNAMERICAN and UNCHRISTIAN.

They will be the ones who will try to destroy our country from within, as they forget that this country was built on Judeo/Christian morals and values.




dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 30 Comments [8/8/2014 3:17:12 AM]
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Quote# 102548

Russia is now new christian country and oppose to masonic and homosexual western governments ! Russian blocked all homosexual attacks on Russian citizens so western try to destroy Russia ! the new antichrist probably will be a homosexual so this is the real power behind homosexual movement and DNA scientist try to find genome which is responsible for it to put in DNA code in new life inside babes ! It is written in the King James Bible !

"...Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all...." Daniel 11:37 King James Bible

Christian love, infowars.com 33 Comments [8/8/2014 3:08:46 AM]
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Submitted By: driewerf

Quote# 102547

(These are just the worst bits, but the whole article is hilariously uninformed and extreme.)

I have contended for years that the First Amendment, as given by the Founders, provides religious liberty protections for Christianity only. Most attorney types, befuddled by years of untethered Supreme Court activism, think it covers any and all religions you can name...The First Amendment applies only to Congress, as its very first word makes plain. The states were allowed to regulate religious expression any way they chose. Since it’s never been amended, the First Amendment means today what it meant then, which means that if a state government wants to recognize Satanism or Islam, it can. If it doesn’t want to, it doesn’t have to.

Bryan Fischer, American Family Association  39 Comments [8/8/2014 3:08:38 AM]
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Submitted By: PhillipaFry

Quote# 102546

7. VESTIGIAL ORGANS

Vestigial organs are supposed organs in the body which are useless, left over from evolutionary development. The following arguments for vestigial organs are based on those taken from the "Bible Science Newsletter," August 1989, p. 16.

1. Just because we don't yet know the role of an organ does not mean it is useless and left over from previous stages of evolution.

2. This view is plain false. In the 1800's, evolutionists listed 180 vestigial organs in the human body. The functions for all have now been found. Some of these were the pituitary gland (oversees skeletal growth), the thymus (an endocrine gland), the pineal gland (affects the development of the sex glands), the tonsils, and appendix (both now known to fight disease.)

3. The fact that an organ must sometimes be removed does not make it vestigial.

4. The fact that one can live without an organ (appendix, tonsils) does not make it vestigial. You can survive without an arm or a kidney but these are not considered vestigial.

5. Organs are not vestigial based upon your need or use of them.

6. According to evolution, if an organ has lost its value, it should, over time, vanish completely. There has been enough time to lose these "vestigial" organs, but we still have them.

7. If organs do become useless, this would back up the second law of thermodynamics and the degenerative process, not evolution, which requires adaptation of organs for new purposes.

8. Vestigial organs prove loss, not evolutionary progression. Evolution theory requires new organs forming for useful purposes, not "old ones" dying out.

9. Evolutionists have, for the most part, given up the argument over vestigial organs.

Kevin Martin, Jesus-is-Savior 36 Comments [8/8/2014 3:08:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 102545

3. FOSSIL RECORD

Charles Darwin stated, in his Origin of Species, "The geological record is extremely imperfect and this fact will to a large extent explain why we do not find intermediate varieties, connecting together all the extinct and existing forms of life by the finest graduated steps. He who rejects these views on the nature of the geological record, will rightly reject my whole theory."

Now, 130 years and billions of fossils later, we can rightly reject the view of an incomplete fossil record or of one "connecting together all . . . forms of life by the finest graduated steps."

Out of the millions of fossils in the world, not one transitional form has been found. All known species show up abruptly in the fossil record, without intermediate forms, thus contributing to the fact of special creation. Let's take a look at Archeopteryx, a fossil that some evolutionists claim to be transitional between reptile and bird.

Archeopteryx is discussed in evolutionist Francis Hitching's book, The Neck of the Giraffe - Where Darwin Went Wrong. Hitching speaks on six aspects of Archeopteryx, following here.

(The following six points are quoted from Luther Sunderland's book, Darwin's Enigma: Fossils and Other Problems, pp. 74-75, the facts of which points he gathered from Hitching's book.)

1. It had a long bony tail, like a reptile's.

In the embryonic stage, some living birds have more tail vertebrae than Archeopteryx. They later fuse to become an upstanding bone called the pygostyle. The tail bone and feather arrangement on swans are very similar to those of Archeopteryx.

One authority claims that there is no basic difference between the ancient and modern forms: the difference lies only in the fact that the caudal vertebrae are greatly prolonged. But this does not make a reptile.

2. It had claws on its feet and on its feathered forelimbs.

However, many living birds such as the hoatzin in South America, the touraco in Africa and the ostrich also have claws. In 1983, the British Museum of Natural History displayed numerous species within nine families of birds with claws on the wings.

3. It had teeth.

Modern birds do not have teeth but many ancient birds did, particularly those in the Mesozoic. There is no suggestion that these birds were transitional. The teeth do not show the connection of Archeopteryx with any other animal since every subclass of vertebrates has some with teeth and some without.

4. It had a shallow breastbone.

Various modern flying birds such as the hoatzin have similarly shallow breastbones, and this does not disqualify them from being classified as birds. And there are, of course, many species of nonflying birds, both living and extinct.

Recent examination of Archeopteryx's feathers has shown that they are the same as the feathers of modern birds that are excellent fliers. Dr. Ostrom says that there is no question that they are the same as the feathers of modern birds. They are asymmetrical with a center shaft and parallel barbs like those of today's flying birds.

5. Its bones were solid, not hollow, like a bird's.

This idea has been refuted because the long bones of Archeopteryx are now known to be hollow.

6. It predates the general arrival of birds by millions of years.

This also has been refuted by recent paleontological discoveries. In 1977 a geologist from Brigham Young University, James A. Jensen, discovered in the Dry Mesa quarry of the Morrison formation in western Colorado a fossil of an unequivocal bird in Lower Jurassic rock.

This deposit is dated as 60-million years older than the Upper Jurassic rock in which Archeopteryx was found. He first found the rear-leg femur and, later, the remainder of the skeleton.

This was reported in Science News 24 September 1977. Professor John Ostrom commented, "It is obvious we must now look for the ancestors of flying birds in a period of time much older than that in which Archeopteryx lived."

And so it goes with the fossil that many textbooks set forth as the best example of a transitional form. No true intermediate fossils have been found.

In a letter to Luther Sunderland, dated April 10, 1979, Dr. Colin Patterson, of the British Museum of Natural History, wrote:

"...I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic licence, would that not mislead the reader?"

Just think of it! Here is a man sitting amidst one of the greatest fossil collections ever and he knows of absolutely NO transitional fossils. So convincing I believe this quote to be that it will sum up this discussion on fossil evidence.

Kevin Martin, Jesus-is-Savior 47 Comments [8/7/2014 3:09:14 AM]
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