Quote# 102540

How to deal with the temptation of Lesbianism?

I used to be a lesbian when I was an Atheist. I has multiple relationships with women and men. Now I face that temptation again because of the liberal media.
Television promotes feminist ideas like lesbianism and abortion. According to most TV, women must kill their babies and become a lesbian to become "liberated". That is a lie. Feminism makes women slaves to lesbianism, paganism and abortion.
How should I deal with this temptation? Turning off the TV won't do it anymore. I see pro-gay stuff everywhere now.
I drew a picture to help show this situation with visuals.


Kaykay, Yahoo! Answers 42 Comments [8/7/2014 3:08:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Juicifur

Quote# 102539

One third of the Bible is prophecy—God’s way of preparing and warning us of what would one day happen. In perhaps Jesus’ most explicit prophecy, The Olivet Discourse, He gives us several warnings as he prepares us for His return.
•Wars and Rumors of War. The 20th Century saw more people killed in war than in the entire history of the world combined before it. And as you watch the growth of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons being produced; the growing lust for power and wealth among nations, and brutal regimes rising before our eyes—we may soon see a war that makes the wars of the 20th century look like a walk in the park. The Bible prophecies that one third of the world’s people could die in the next world war.
•Famines and earthquakes. Every scientific study produced points to the undeniable fact that earthquakes have increased in numbers and strength at an alarming rate over the past 40 years. We are seeing unprecedented droughts in areas of the world, including the United States, that could put the world’s food supply at risk very quickly.
•Many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. We live in an era where the gospel is just too harsh and offends too many people. After all, who are we to tell someone they are a sinner? And heaven forbid we as Americans should ever repent of our sinful ways!


Mike Lemay, stand up for the truth 26 Comments [8/7/2014 3:08:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 102536

I hardly call it egregious to excommunicate someone who votes for abortions. Those people have already excommunicated themselves and should not be receiving communion.

It doesn't mean they can't come to church it means they've committed a mortal sin and can't receive communion until they've gone to confession.

This is yet another reason the IRS needs to be disbanded along with the Federal income tax.

Mexican_Hippe, Texas Gun Talk 30 Comments [8/7/2014 3:05:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Firestarox

Quote# 102534

"Christians make up the majority of prisons while atheists only cover about 0.2% of the entire prison population."

When prisoners are enlisted they are no doubt told to give their religious affiliation--whether they are a Jew, a Moslem, a Christian, a Hindu, etc. I’m sure that one of the reasons they ask that question is that it's probably not a good idea to put a Moslem and a Jew in the same cell. Few list their religious affiliation as being “atheist” because, as we are so often reminded, atheism is not a belief.

Most people who have some sort of belief would check "Christian" because we are still known as a Christian nation rather than a Moslem, Hindu or Jewish nation. Those atheists who keep parading this "statistic" in an effort to prove that atheists live on a higher moral ground need only look at the 110,000,000 human beings who have been slaughtered under atheistic communism, to bring them back to reality.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 48 Comments [8/7/2014 3:04:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 102533

[This is from an article titled "Jewish Identity: Are You In or Out?"]

In our generation, many Jews have renounced their Jewish identity in favor of becoming "citizens of the world." Their political views have led them to identify with the enemies of the Jewish People.

[...]

[A]larm bells rang a couple years ago when a study revealed that 50% of American Jews under the age of 35 would not consider it "a personal tragedy if the State of Israel ceased to exist." Two months ago an American Congresswoman declared that the Jews of America had sold out Israel in their support of Obama's diplomatic surrender to Iran's nuclear program.

The nadir of this abandonment of support for Israel is the BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) movement, which actually has some Jews among its supporters. [...] The starkest defection from the Jewish People is to side with those sworn to our destruction. According to Jewish law, every person born to a Jewish mother is Jewish, even if s/he converts to another religion. But a Jew needs to minimally cast his/her lot with the Jewish community to be redeemable.

[...]

The Passover Seder speaks about four sons. Only one of them is cast as "wicked." As the Hagaddah states: "The wicked son, what does he say? 'What is this service to you?' 'To you,' but not to him. Because he excludes himself from the community, he is a heretic. ... Say to him, 'Because of what God did for me when I went out of Egypt.' For me, but not for him, because if he would have been there, he would not have been redeemed."

The first Passover marked the birth of the Jewish nation. Every Passover since poses the challenge to every Jew: Are you in or are you out?

Sara Yoheved Rigler, Aish.com 24 Comments [8/7/2014 3:04:18 AM]
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Quote# 102531

You may not realize it, but words can only come from a person. Crazy isn't it? God is the Word, because He is the original source of all life. He has every right to demand worship from us. That should make you happy, not jealous, because as a mere creature you do not deserve such honor.

AntiquityNow, Atheism Resource 54 Comments [8/6/2014 3:26:36 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

Quote# 102530

Psalm 139:13-16
For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.

So in God's eyes an embryo is human. Just because your morals are less developed than God doesn't change anything.

You forget that every person who is pro-abortion has NOT been aborted, so they have no right to speak. Killing is wrong. And what God hates even MORE is killing of the innocent.

Exodus 23:7
Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and righteous, for I will not acquit the wicked

Deuteronomy 27:25
“‘Cursed be anyone who takes a bribe to shed innocent blood.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

So practically you have taken this "bribe". Which value is that you 1. Don't get to lose your worldly friends(you get to FIT IN) 2. You don't get the responsibility of a mother.

Truly, abortion might be one of the WORST crimes in God's eyes, because you are killing INNOCENT children.
REPENT OF THAT KATRINA! You shouldn't DO it and you shouldn't defend it! TURN AWAY from those thoughts which are not from God but from the Devil.

stefanbauwens, deviantArt 37 Comments [8/6/2014 3:26:27 AM]
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Submitted By: katrinahood

Quote# 102524

Heterosexuals and Homosexuals are already protected under current laws. You can't be discriminated against based on race, color, gender, religion, ethnicity, national origin and age. Which one of those do Homosexuals NOT fall under? Marital Status is not listed because it never is an issue for ANYONE. Homosexuals are not discriminated against just because they can't get married. They have the same right to marry as everyone else. They just don't accept the man & woman definition of marriage. That doesn't mean that they don't have the right to marry. Marriage is not limited to anyone. They just don't want the marriage that is available to them. When the definition of marriage changes, it opens the flood gates of any combination of unions to be legitimately lobbied for: multiple wives, multiple husbands, marriage to animals, etc. Even NAMBLA would have a LEGAL, although morally repugnant, precedence to adult-child marriage. Discrimination in marriage in that instance cannot be partial to anyone or form if you follow the logical repercussions of that argument. But that is an issue that those fighting against traditional marriage want to just ignore and not address.

Brama, OneNewsNow 38 Comments [8/6/2014 3:07:56 AM]
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Submitted By: PhillipaFry

Quote# 102520

That's what we all think. If we did not all think that our proposed policies would be beneficial to society, we would not hold them unless we were deliberately evil. As a conservative who used to be a progressive socialist, I can honestly say that I used to believe in what I believed because I thought it was the right way to go. I did not change my beliefs because my sense of morality changed - I changed them because I realised that progressive socialism would be paradise in the short term, but hell to pay in the long term. I'll give you some examples.

1. The welfare state. It looks fantastic when it's being introduced, and I used to be heavily in favour of expanding it, but:
1.1 When people start paying more than half of their income in taxes and mandatory premiums, a society's economic life stagnates and purchasing power drops, making most people poorer.
1.2 Unfortunately, a generous welfare state draws the wrong kind of immigration when that is allowed - the kind that costs money instead of adding to the welfare state.
1.3 The welfare state replaces the community with the state; you no longer look to your family or friends for help, you look to the state. This ends genuine solidarity and establishes entitlement.
1.4 In multinational states, where different ethnic or religious groups live, this sense of entitlement causes anger, hostility and rioting when some groups refuse to pay for other groups.

2. Migration. It looks fantastic in the short term, and in the past supporting it loudly really made me smug, but:
2.1 As I said, adding significantly different groups of people to one state - especially if that state is prominent in economic redistribution - leads to conflict rather than harmony.
2.2 Some forms of migration might be good for the economy, but - and if you are a socialist I don't see how you could disagree - that prosperity ends up mainly with large businesses, while ordinary people are driven out of work in places where migrants, legally or illegally, are able to work for less than the cost of living for the nationals of their host country. Not to mention, because you are not likely to be swayed by an argument related to the people already in the host country, that the migrants are often exploited and have to work under dangerous or degrading circumstances.
2.3 Migration, unfortunately, usually leads to supplantment rather than addition, because values that run contrary to each other can and will not co-exist. One must become dominant, and if migration is not kept under control then the values of the migrants will eventually become dominant. Just ask the Britons. Usually, migration occurs from places with much more corruption and much less wealth than the places these migrants end up in. That means: with every migrant you take in, your country moves one step further towards lethargy, corruption and the very infighting many migrants fled.

3. Sexual freedom. It sounds fantastic in the short term, but:
3.1 A nation needs a stable population. For that, it needs women to give birth to, on average, somewhere between 2.1 (wealthy first-world nations) and 3.3 children (third world nations, accounting for excess deaths and physical and mental handicaps preventing people from reproducing later) children. In order to do that, women - at least European women and women of European descent - generally need stability.
3.2 The sexual revolution that took place in the second half of the 1960s and the first half of the 1970s, when everything sexual became acceptable, resulted also in: (1) women marrying at a higher average age, one at which they simply cannot have enough children, (2) women going to work, meaning they have smaller families, (3) more and more broken families coming to exist.

4. Religious tolerance. It sounds fantastic in the short term, but:
4.1 You must take into account that not everyone will tolerate you, and that those who you tolerate but who do not tolerate you might one day gain the upper hand over you;
4.2 That tolerance, in itself, does not negate the fact that people with significantly different beliefs and values will not be able to live in peace indefinitely, and that one group is bound to eventually gain enough strength either in numbers or in political or economic influence to banish the other group, and that those who are tolerant are also generally the weaker side in those schisms.

Thalbania wrote:
What do you consider your own primary value to be? How can we evaluate the better ones?


The reason I became a conservative was not initially moral, although I have learned to appreciate the moral side of the debate. I became a conservative because I realised the things conservatives want - stability, security, tradition and national sovereignty - are requirements for a functioning society. At a basic level, progressives are beneficial to a nation in the short term and superficially but create deep, dangerous schisms and demographic developments that will eventually break any nation up completely. At the same basic level, conservatives seem harsh and stubborn, but they have realised - rightly so, if you ask me - that you can't have a prosperous, safe and therefore happy society that produces great science and great works of art if you set that same society up for absolute disaster in the long term.

Quintium, Nationstates 24 Comments [8/6/2014 3:04:06 AM]
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Quote# 102518

[Fundy is asked if the death penalty for gays described in Leviticus is good]

Yes. Why do you think they had such a penalty? A free thinker should be able to tell me why.

al, Patheos 43 Comments [8/5/2014 3:25:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 102515

Ultimately, I reject sexuality because of the impurity of its reproductive process. The smartest girl I've ever met is a monkey compared to me, the smartest woman I have HEARD of is a child, and I am going to mix up the genes of my brain with THAT? The subhumans will find this outrageous, but the subhumans are addicted to a bunch of chemicals in the brain and can't see beyond an orgasm, so of course they'll be outraged; they have their eyes ON THE NEXT HIT, not on the future. And besides, their genes are so mediocre that the worst that can happen to them by mixing is more mediocrity, and if they are lucky they might even get a lucky hit. That's why sexual reproduction is indeed a sound strategy — IF YOU ARE MEDIOCRE.

Now it's true that in the long term, if I get a good wife, and if our children mix with other good children from good families and have many descendants, a higher race, or at any rate a higher tribe will result, as with the aristocrats of old. But there is no more higher caste to protect and nurture them today, and my son could very well pick up some plebeian slut because she is pretty. He wouldn't be compelled to find a wife FROM WITHIN HIS CASTE, because THERE SIMPLY WOULDN'T BE ONE. Also, I wouldn't have many children because it's not the custom anymore. What modern wife would agree to give birth five or ten times? Also, I want immediate results, if possible, not a hundred years after I die. Ergo, the only way forward for us is cloning.

Anthony Zyrmpas, Orgy of the Will 69 Comments [8/5/2014 3:24:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Kncac

Quote# 102514

When I commented: “No atheist can even slightly support atheism intelligently,” Elizabeth Dresser responded with “Why so arrogant, Ray?”

It’s not arrogant to say that atheism is foolishness. The Bible says that (see Psalm 14:1, Psalm 53:1, Romans 1:22) and Sir Isaac Newton (“the Father of Science”) rightly called atheism “senseless.”

Should a man be called "intelligent" if he believes that a 747 could be the result of an explosion that threw it together? Everyone knows that explosions don’t produce order, let alone engines, wings, an electrical system, seating, carpet, air conditioning, row numbers, doors, instruments, etc.

Such a man is a fool in the truest sense of the word, and those who think he is intelligent are just as foolish.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 53 Comments [8/5/2014 3:23:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 102510

The mighty preacher, Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), died prematurely by insisting on receiving a smallpox vaccination that killed him in 1758. The best defense against disease is a healthy immune system. If you want to avoid potentially dangerous vaccinations and drugs for your child, find a licensed HOMEOPATHIC doctor who specializes in natural healing.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 52 Comments [8/5/2014 3:22:14 AM]
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Quote# 102507

Albert Einstein may have been a very brilliant man according to history, but he was a fool in God's eyes. What doth it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Matthew 16:26, "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?" All the wisdom, knowledge, wealth and fame in this world won't matter 100 years from now. What will everything in your life matter 100 years down-the-road if you die without Christ? Sadly, Einstein died without Jesus Christ and is burning in Hell-fire this moment. It's Jesus or Hell!

...

The world is a wicked place (1st John 5:19). It's NOT going to get any better. Mankind is prone to evil, hate, gossip, backstabbing, wrath, killing, defrauding, adultery, lying, cowardliness, etc (Galatians 5:19-21). Einstein was no fool, he knew exactly what nuclear weapons would be used for. In fact, Einstein was involved with at least 34 known Communist fronts. Einstein was an unsaved man who helped build nuclear bombs to kill millions of people. Einstein was NO hero, and certainly NO Christian! Just like so many brilliant people in this world, Einstein was an idiot.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 46 Comments [8/5/2014 3:21:27 AM]
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Quote# 102506

The Scottie dogs used to lead out athletes in the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow were “disrespectful” to Muslims, according to Malaysian politicians.

Terriers in tartan coasts embroidered with team names walked ahead of competitors from each country around the arena last week.

Mohamad Sabu, deputy president of the Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party said all Islamic countries deserved and apology from organisers, the Telegraph reported.

“This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,” he added.

“Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue.

Mohamad Sabu, The Independent 42 Comments [8/5/2014 3:21:08 AM]
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Quote# 102505

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Islamic State, the al-Qaeda offshoot that seized large swathes of northern Iraq last month, has warned women in the city of Mosul to wear full-face veils or risk severe punishment.


The Sunni insurgents, who have declared a caliphate in parts of Iraq and Syria and have threatened to march on Baghdad, also listed guidelines on how veils and clothes should be worn, part of a campaign to violently impose their radical brand of Islam.

"The conditions imposed on her clothes and grooming was only to end the pretext of debauchery resulting from grooming and overdressing," said the Islamic State in a statement.

"This is not a restriction on her freedom but to prevent her from falling into humiliation and vulgarity or to be a theater for the eyes of those who are looking."

A cleric in Mosul told Reuters that Islamic State gunmen had shown up at his mosque and ordered him to read their warning on loudspeakers when worshipers gather.

"Anyone who is not committed to this duty and is motivated by glamour will be subject to accountability and severe punishment to protect society from harm and to maintain the necessities of religion and protect it from debauchery," said the Islamic State.

The insurgents, formerly called the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), have been systematically stamping out any religious or cultural influences they deem non-Islamic since their lightning sweep through the north.

U.S. military and Iraqi security officials estimate the Islamic State has at least 3,000 fighters in Iraq, rising towards 20,000 when new recruits since last month's advance are included.

The Islamic State provided guidelines on how women should dress in Mosul, one of Iraq's biggest cities. The hands and feet must be covered. Wear shapeless clothes that don't hug the body. No perfume.

The insurgents run vice patrols in Mosul which answer to a morality committee which has shut Mosul's college of fine arts and physical education, knocked down statues of famous poets and banned smoking and waterpipes.

Women have been told to never walk unaccompanied by a male guardian. The Islamic State even ordered shopkeepers to cover their store mannequins with full-face veils.

A man was recently whipped in public for sexually harassing a woman.

Islamic State militants view Iraq's majority Shi'ites as infidels who deserve to be killed and have told Christians to either convert to Islam, pay a religious levy or face death.


The Islamic State, MSN World News 20 Comments [8/5/2014 3:18:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Insult to Rocks

Quote# 102501

Anad Mahmoud, a 22-year-old electrician, says masked ISIL men dressed in long Pakistani-style robes came last week to the farming village of Guba, on the outskirts of Mosul. Though Mr. Mahmoud is a Sunni Arab, most of his neighbours were Shia Turkmen and Shabaks, another religious minority.

Mr. Mahmoud says the Shiite men captured by ISIL were made to dig a pit that would prove to be their mass grave. “They took about 80 Shiite people to a giant hole. They put jerry cans that were filled with something like kerosene in the pit with them, and then blew them up. I heard the sound.”

[...]

Mr. Mahmoud, who now shares a tent with five Mosul refugees in Khazir, says he narrowly avoided death himself. “First they said ‘You are a Shiite and we are going to execute you.’ Then when they discovered [from his identification] that I am Sunni, they said ‘You are living in a Shia area, so we will treat you the way we treat them. You must be killed.’”

[Bolding mine]

Unnamed ISIL members, The Globe and Mail 25 Comments [8/5/2014 3:17:22 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 102499

Women should not laugh out loud in public, Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arinç has said while complaining about “moral corruption” in Turkey.

Speaking during an Eid el-Fitr meeting on July 28, Arinç described his ideal of the chaste man or woman, saying they should both have a sense of shame and honor.

“Chastity is so important. It is not only a name. It is an ornament for both women and men. [She] will have chasteness. Man will have it, too. He will not be a womanizer. He will be bound to his wife. He will love his children. [The woman] will know what is haram and not haram. She will not laugh in public. She will not be inviting in her attitudes and will protect her chasteness,” Arinç said, adding that people had abandoned their values today.

People needs to discover the Quran once again, Arinç said, adding that there had been a regression on moral grounds.

“Where are our girls, who slightly blush, lower their heads and turn their eyes away when we look at their face, becoming the symbol of chastity?” he said.

He said some TV series geared toward young people had because teenagers to grow up only as “sex addicts,” accusing those who abuse the excitement of youths with publications on TV, the web, newspapers, or in educational places, especially in universities.

Arinç also complained about high consumption, referring to the number of cars and mobile phones that individuals have.

Targeting women once more, Arinç said women talk about unnecessary things on the phone.

“Women give each other meal recipes while speaking on the mobile phone. ‘What else is going on?’ ‘What happened to Ayse’s daughter?’ ‘When is the wedding?’ Talk about this face to face,” he said.

Bülent Arinç, Hürriyet Daily News 26 Comments [8/5/2014 3:15:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 102498

COW'S UNUSUAL SPOTS ARE PUTTING EVOLUTIONISTS IN A TIGHT SPOT
While doing some research on the Internet recently, we came across this photo of a cow bearing a detailed map of the world on its hide. Was the cow born with these markings or are the spots the handiwork of a skilled Photoshop artist?



Obviously, this cow's spots were put there by a designer. But our question for evolutionists is this: If you agree that the cow's spots are designed, why won't you agree that the actual cow – which is so much more complex than the arrangement of its spots – was designed as well?

Evolutionists and atheists will agree that the pattern of the cow's spots was designed, but they will not agree that the cow itself was designed. That's because they are committed to their faith – yes, faith! – built on the premise that there is no Designer. Though they can see the complexities of nature all around them, they say that everything was the result of mindless, natural processes.

And that's why Darwinists have a cow whenever they hear a Bible-believing Christian say that things which appear to be designed actually are designed! If they weren't so biased against God, they'd know that the cow's spots reveals the incredibly huge blind spot in their own minds.

Creation Moments, Creation Moments 63 Comments [8/4/2014 3:21:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 102496

["According to a petition filed in May 2013, the family alleges the boy was bullied and harassed after he came out as bisexual while a seventh grader in the Carl Junction School District."]

The parents are more responsible than the school. They failed to raise their child to be able to defend himself against physical and emotional assaults.
The judge should throw out the case before it even starts.
I didn't go find a lawyer when teachers bullied me in school. I didn't even tell my father, who had the power to seek disciplinary action against the teachers as chairman of the school board.

This kid had problems. Rather than helping their son deal with his obvious psychological problems they blamed everyone else around for not accommodating their son's mental dysfunction.
Teenagers are cruel. They have always been such. It is part of the human condition.

Fishydude, WND 35 Comments [8/4/2014 3:20:40 AM]
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Quote# 102492

Man’s major problem since the fall is that his notion of what is good and what is evil is fundamentally broken. Indeed, this is what it means to be a sinner: we judge what is good by what we want, and also (by extension) by what other people want. Good and evil for us are centered on ourselves. Because sinners reject God, man’s flourishing is the only and ultimate good we can conceive.

This attitude is repaired to some extent when God regenerates us; when he changes our dispositions to “aim” toward him, rather than toward ourselves. We come to realize that the standard of goodness we’ve been aiming at is too low. Far too low. We learn that there is none righteous—not one!—and that from our youth, every inclination of our hearts is only evil continually (Romans 3:10; Genesis 8:21; 6:5). This is what Jesus saves us from.

But old habits die hard. We continue to instinctively judge actions by how they affect us and other people. That’s our natural shortcut for telling what is right and what is wrong. We have to work hard to overcome it; we have to learn to change our instincts; to judge actions by how they relate to God. It is a steep learning curve to come to grips with Paul’s statement in Romans 14:23 that whatever does not proceed from faith is sin. That nice atheist helping the old lady across the road? Yeap, that’s sin. It’s not as bad a sin as Ted Bundy raping and murdering young women—but it isn’t done with the intent of honoring God, and so no matter how well it affects other people, it is done in rejection of goodness itself (God). So it is sin.

The trouble is, because as sinners we are naturally predisposed to reject God’s authority and goodness and substitute them with our own, we should actually expect to feel loathing—or at least unease—about how God deals with people. (Isn’t this why the doctrine of hell is so unpopular?)

As Christians, we should be careful to test our kneejerk reactions against the standard of God himself. But when it comes to election, we quickly see that our initial feeling of how unfair God would be to save only some people is 180 degrees to how we should feel:

/!\God would be quite unfair to save anyone.

Our intuition that God should save all people rather than just some is based in our false but natural feeling that all people deserve saving. Even after we are converted and know better, we still tend to think of people as basically good when of course they are the opposite. But once we look at human beings from God’s perspective instead of our own, we realize that he ought to punish us all in hell forever. He ought not let a single one of us into heaven. That’s why it’s called the “gospel of grace”: grace is undeserved favor.

In other words, not a single person ever has any claim whatsoever on God’s salvation. If God decides to give it to some people, he is being gratuitously kind to them. He is not giving them what they deserve. Commensurately, his failing to be gratuitously kind to other people is not a defect or imperfection on his part. He has utterly no obligation to those he didn’t pick for salvation—because they have utterly no basis to expect his favor. He is not unfair to give them what they deserve—hell—he is, in fact, perfectly fair.

Election and God’s end-game

I noted in the previous part of this series that God’s purpose in creation—his end-game if you will—is to glorify himself. And I argued that God’s glory is simply his revealed perfection. With this in mind, it is actually easy to see why God does not damn everyone, and why he does not save everyone either:

(>) God’s undeserved love and mercy is part of his perfection
(>)God’s holy wrath and judgment is part of his perfection

If God wishes to reveal his perfection fully, he must reveal his undeserved mercy and his holy judgment. Which means he must elect some sinners to salvation, and damn others to hell. It is only a man-centered moral calculus that finds this offensive. When we cast it in light of God’s revealed perfection, election is literally a glorious doctrine.

Dominic Bnonn Tennant, Developing the Mind of Christ 27 Comments [8/4/2014 3:14:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Skyknight

Quote# 102490

[On the question of if extraterrestrial life exists.]

I am not aware of our Holy Bible saying anything about other life being created anywhere else in the Universe. I think the idea of "alien life" is really pushed by agnostics and atheists in their epic failure of an attempt to believe in something other than the Truth of Christ.

For some strange reason, I'm intrigued by watching these stupid "alien" shows to see what these people think and their rationale. Every single time an "abduction" takes place, the victim is in horrific circumstances and abused terribly as if these beings are demons. You'd think the red flag would go up with those experiences. Yet, foolish man wants to reach out to these beings. I remember one observer who studied the abduction phenomenon, stated that the one common denominator all victims had was that they were heavily into the occult and the belief in ET's.

Florian9, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [8/4/2014 3:14:30 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 102488

[On troops being told to refrain from eating and drinking in front of Muslims during Ramadan out of respect.]

This just makes me [mad smiley] ! Now the military has the power to tell soldiers whether or not they can eat or drink in front of the people bowing down to satan under the name of Islam? [Exploding smiley] All the while, Christians are discriminated against - not allowed to read books by conservative authors like Mark Levin and Sean Hannity, not allowed to attend Christian gatherings, denied under threat of court martial from sharing their faith with other soldiers, and every other unconstitutional nonsense the pro-Muslim loving military authorities can come up with! How long until our idiotic military under direct orders, I'm sure, from the pro-Muslim loving Obama administration will it be before Muslim soldiers are allowed to legally murder any "infidel", i.e. Christian or Jew, because they're offended by them? I am sick of the Muslims and I am sick of the politically correct, morally wrong, and mentally diseased Obama and his evil ilk. Believe me, when the Rapture happens, Obama and his evil minions won't be half as happy all true Christians are gone off this planet as we will be to get away from them!

TimeWarpWife, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [8/4/2014 3:11:40 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

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The great cover-up began with the ecumenical movement in 1962

The great cover-up began with Winston Churchill and Vatican Council II. Prior to that time, Latin Church women were required to wear a "chapel veil" when they were in the presence of supersubstantial bread or "Jesus" on the altar.

The discarding of the veil led to "women's liberation," the sexual revolution, role-reversals, abortion, women ruling over men etc.,etc.

Up to the 1960's, it was unheard of for Latin Church women to uncover their heads in church.

That custom was due to the presence of supersubstantial bread or "Jesus" on the altar.

Latin Church women always covered their heads in church, as can be seen by the example of Jackie Kennedy, wife of the President. Prior to that time, Protestant Christian women always covered their heads when they prayed or went to church.

President Kennedy rarely wore a hat because hats look ugly on men, and our Great Creator did not design male heads to wear hats.

On the other hand, millions of women admired Jackie's pillbox hat.

Jackie never appeared in public without a hat, and she was a trend setter for women's fashion around the world.

Maybe that was one of the reasons why President Kennedy was assassinated!! His wife certainly boosted the sale of women's hats in this country . . . and around the world.

Women's "liberation," role reversals, women ruling over men, and disgracing their heads etc., etc., always leads to disaster in the end. Here is what Saint Paul advised the younger women to do:

I will, therefore, that the younger should marry, bear children, be mistresses of families, give no occasion to the adversary to speak evil (I Timothy 5:14).

The brave pioneer women didn't insist on the right to vote before they expanded the Tabernacle of David to the Pacific Ocean. These liberated, intelligent women also understood that the army that has the most soldiers left at the end of the battle is the WINNER.

Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 42 Comments [8/4/2014 3:09:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 102480

Homophonia: Social media strategist fired after blog post about homophones 'was seen as relating to homosexuality' (Headline from the Independent newspaper)

Clarke Woodger and Nomen Global Language Center, Independent  27 Comments [8/4/2014 3:09:09 AM]
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