Quote# 105753

Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are determined by divine revelation and not based on people's desires.

Although Muslims may not agree about the idea of freedom of expression, even non-Muslims who espouse it say it comes with responsibilities. In an increasingly unstable and insecure world, the potential consequences of insulting the Messenger Muhammad are known to Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State. This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, "Whoever insults a Prophet kill him."

However, because the honor of the Prophet is something which all Muslims want to defend, many will take the law into their own hands, as we often see.

Within liberal democracies, freedom of expression has curtailments, such as laws against incitement and hatred.

The truth is that Western governments are content to sacrifice liberties and freedoms when being complicit to torture and rendition — or when restricting the freedom of movement of Muslims, under the guise of protecting national security.

So why in this case did the French government allow the magazine Charlie Hebdo to continue to provoke Muslims, thereby placing the sanctity of its citizens at risk?

It is time that the sanctity of a Prophet revered by up to one-quarter of the world's population was protected.

Anjem Choudary, USA Today 41 Comments [1/12/2015 3:29:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 105746

[Rebbetzin Jungreis writes to an older woman who is worried about how she and her husband should divide up the estate.]

[W]e live in a world where many of our Jewish sons and daughters are disappearing into assimilation and intermarriage. From your letter I gathered you are a traditional family who go to synagogue from time to time, keep a kosher home, make Shabbos and Yom Tov dinners, have mezuzahs on the doorposts, etc. But this does not guarantee that your future generations will cling to those mitzvahs and remain within the fold.

So try to protect the Judaism of their descendants. You can do this by making provisions in your will for the yeshiva education of all your grandchildren, for establishing a kosher home when they marry, etc. And make it clear that any beneficiary who chooses not to accept these terms will forfeit the money you allocated for this purpose and it will go to a tzedakah of your designation.

May Hashem grant you Yiddishe nachas and shalom bayis from generation to generation.

Rebbetzin Esther Jungreis, Hineni 24 Comments [1/11/2015 5:14:54 AM]
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Quote# 105745

If we intend to transition from a society that oppresses women to a woman-centered society, we should start with education. From a young age, women need to be taught the dangers of associating with men. We'd also teach them about PIV and the dangers of Trauma-Bonding to a male that come with it. They should be taught about men's toxic sexuality, the dangers of hetero-captivity, and how they need woman only safe spaces. We would also tailor men's education to helping them resist their necrophilic sexual urges (in the off chance that their violence and sexuality stems from societal conditioning instead of their flawed biology), that they never should congregate in groups, and to never speak or talk over women or invalidate their experiences.

If we continue in this for a generation or two, it's only natural that women will find the prospect of birthing a male child to be a shameful thing. So naturally, upon discovering their unfortunate turn of fate, many will likely abort them. Those that resist doing the sensible thing will be entered into a lottery to see if they are allowed to keep the bastard. Ultimately, we hope to get the male population down to approximately 10% of what it is today.

There will be no gas chambers. That's a male idea and women don't subscribe to it.

At the same time, women will begin working towards parthenogenesis which will render the male forever obsolete. Why run the risk of birthing a defective child who will one day grow up to attack and oppress women when you can have a daughter. It doesn't make sense and may be part of the reason my sister rebelled against the truth I was sharing with her. She is pregnant and I was pushing her to abort if it was a male. Her mind has been too colonized by the men in her life to see the common sense behind such an action.

We'd also only allow the most docile and non-violent of males to donate their semen; in hopes of breeding out some of the worst male characteristics.

In addition, we'd levy a tax on males and would redistribute the taxed income to women. If they lost an additional 50% of their income, their ability to coerce women financially into hetero-captivity would be significantly diminished. This would help keep women safe.

Over time, we'd begin limiting the number of men that are allowed to congregate in one place. If they are too dangerous to exist alone, they are far more dangerous in groups. I would think no more than three in one place at any time would be acceptable.

We'd remove anything that glorifies men as something that they obviously aren't. We'd smash any monuments that glorify male accomplishments, ban any media that shows them having attributes that they clearly don't (empathy, sensitivity, the capacity for love, etc). We'd also ban male participation in sports. I was in a bar drinking Monday night and realized, for example, that football is legalized male violence and as such is wholly unacceptable and needs to be banned; not only for glorifying male violence but also for elevating men to a position where they can serve as a role model (men rejoice in violence, not only against women, but also themselves).

I don't know that we'd want men to continue to be literate. It doesn't enlighten them and only serves to help them find new and more creative ways to torment women and destroy the planet.

We'd also ban men from holding public office, participating in medicine (as modern medicine is biocidal to women), and participating in commerce. I'd think that ideally we'd train them in the manual arts and let them spend their days breaking rocks, cleaning the toxins they've polluted the planet with, and unmaking those things (e.g. nuclear power plants) that threaten to harm women's harmony with nature.

FactCheckMe had a rather entertaining solution that would also work, though I'm not certain if it is feasible in the short term. Though letting them resort to their base nature and take care of their own population problem behind concrete walls does seem rather appealing. http://factcheckme.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/what-logistical-problem/

throwaway4587212, Reddit 50 Comments [1/11/2015 5:04:42 AM]
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Submitted By: GalvatronPrime

Quote# 105744

It is important for you to understand that MOST of the professed "Christian" world is NOT Christian. In the popular Left Behind Series, the Pope actually gets raptured. If you know anything about the Bible at all, then you know that Pope John Paul II is burning in hell. "...Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3). The Roman Catholic religion teaches that the only way to heaven is through the Roman Catholic Church (through baptism, the keeping of the seven sacraments, and a good relationship with the Mother Mary). No such nonsense is taught in the Bible. John 14:6 declares that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to heaven. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -John 14:6. The seven sacraments are a lie!

So NO Catholics will be raptured because they are NOT born again believers. If the rapture has already occurred, then perhaps you are confused because MOST of the professed "Christians" are still alive.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 32 Comments [1/11/2015 5:02:35 AM]
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Quote# 105740

Perhaps the biggest sellout of the past decade is Carrie Underwood. She's been fittingly featured is “SELF” magazine. Miss “Underwear” became famous by singing her hit, “Jesus Take The Wheel,” which won the heart of churchgoers all across the Country. Then she sold her soul and teamed-up with bisexual Aerosmith fruitcake, Steven Tyler. Here is information about the shameful wicked video that they produced. Carrie Underwood is a disgrace to America! Carrie Underwood has been often touted by the mainstream newsmedia as a “conservative Christian.” May I say, she is an evil whore in her heart who is the enemy of God (James 4:4). Mega-Trash, Falsely Said “Conservative Christian” Carrie Underwood Supports Homo Marriages!

No so-called “conservative Christian” supports same-sex marriage (there ain't no such animal) and LGBT gay rights. If Miss Underwood were truly conservative, then she wouldn't and couldn't support such wickedness. Do you see what the Devil is doing? The Illuminati (the Lucifer-worshipping occultists who are working to achieve world government) are behind the moral meltdown of America. The churches have been corrupted with 501c3 licensing, corrupt Bible versions, rightwing frauds like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly, Illuminati infiltrators like Rick Warren and Billy Graham, the false plan of Lordship Salvation, and demonic Contemporary Christian Music (CCM), et cetera. Carrie Underwood is masquerading as a conservative Christian to lure Christians to embrace the homosexual agenda. She has sold her soul to Satan. Underwood is a strong supporter of gay rights. It is wickedness of the worst sort. In reality, Underwood is a leftist, liberal, feminist, lesbian-supporting, wicked woman devoid of the holy God of the Bible.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 31 Comments [1/11/2015 5:00:53 AM]
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Quote# 105735

From a Christian perspective, the battle between the likes of Charlie Hebdo and Islam is much more akin to hostilities between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union in World War II. Through the chaos and darkness of their rebellion against the one true God that they both hate, adherents of these two anti-Christian worldviews have become locked in battle against one another, but that does not make one of the two worldviews in question good.


Scott Alan Buss, fire breathing christian 29 Comments [1/11/2015 4:56:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 105732

Most thoughts and dreams are from demons. Stay celibate during Apocalypse. Newborns are micro-chipped in delivery rooms. Kids are nano-chipped during vaccinations. Aborted babies go to hell for 33 and a half years. Contraceptives are early abortion. Mothers who abort have breast cancer. Make-up puts a stain on the image of God. Soda (Pepsi, etc.), Cosmetics (make-up, etc.), vaccines, anti-cancer, and anti-aging products all have special ingredient: cells of aborted fetuses. So, don’t use make-up and don’t drink Soda. Pray the Jesus prayer.

Juden are chosen people by Satan to lead people to the antichrist. Note that they themselves will not receive mark of the beast, but they want you to receive it. How Juden of them? Juden made up Islam to fight Christians. That’s why these two religions are similar. Pork is forbidden. Circumcision is mandatory. Praying is done head down. Praying head down is devil worship according to Orthodoxy. Animals are ritualistically killed for 30 minutes. Hence, Kosher = Halal. Concerning homosexuality, Old Testament law is followed. Forgive me for being rude, but that’s what I was taught. Ever heard of Scido amafreikis? It’s hard-boiled egg sprinkled with ashes from a cloth soaked in Christian blood. That’s what they eat. The rest of Christian remains is given to McDonalds.

Kent, Before It's News 45 Comments [1/11/2015 4:56:18 AM]
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Quote# 105728

[Rebbetzin Jungreis comments on a woman's commitment to Judaism. The woman's family attend High Holiday services, were confirmed, and visited Israel. Her older brother married a non-Jewish woman and her younger brother dates non-Jewish women. Her parents do not particularly object.]

My Dear Friend,

I could almost dub your portrayal of your family's Jewish life, "The American Jewish Tragedy". This is a tragedy that is compounded by the sad fact that the protagonists are not even aware that they are choreographing a tragedy. Please do not feel that what I will now say is in any way a condemnation, but nevertheless, as I said earlier, I feel compelled to comment on the sad reality described in your letter. You, as well as many others are what our tradition refers to as "[i]tinokot shehínaflu bíshevi" - innocent Jewish souls who were never given a true Jewish education and therefore are compared to infants who were kidnapped and did not have the privilege of knowing their real parents. Such individuals have no way of gauging what they are missing or what they have lost. Similarly, Jews who grew up devoid of Torah, who never tapped the vast treasures buried in its every word and letter, who were never nurtured by the Torah's life sustaining milk, have no way of comprehending their deprivation.

[...]

Without our Torah we cease to exist and are quickly swallowed up in the great melting pot of the nations. Intermarriage is the death knell of our people, leaving no memory in its wake, not even a kaddish. I realize that your parents would have preferred that your brother marry Jewishly, nevertheless, they accepted a gentile daughter-in-law for your older brother and are obviously prepared to do the same for your younger sibling, the rationale being that "they don't want to stand in the way of their children's happiness. Never mind that your brothers will be the last Jewish males to carry your family name; never mind that thousands of years of Jewish life will come to an end in them; never mind that which Hitler could not do through the gas chambers, they are willingly, if unknowingly doing to themselves - and it's all justified under the guise of "happiness".

If someone should claim that he feels "happy" taking drugs, would anyone in his right mind accept that rationale? Would we not warn such a person that he is on the path to self-destruction? Similarly, if someone obliterates his Jewish past, should we not warn him that he is committing spiritual suicide?

[...]

Again, I apologize if you find these words hurtful. G-d forbid - that is not my intention. I would never want to cause anyone pain, but in all good conscience, I could not allow your statements to pass without comment. Perhaps someone who reads these words will re-think his vacuous Jewish life, search out his heritage and discover G-d's holy words that were engraved upon his soul at Sinai

Rebbetzin Esther Jungreis, Hineni 12 Comments [1/11/2015 4:26:50 AM]
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Quote# 105727

In an article published in the New York Times Magazine Section written by Noah Feldman, a Harvard University professor, product of a Modern Orthodox Day School in Brookline, Mass., he scored his alma mater for not accepting his marriage to a non-Jewish woman. Now, there is chutzpa and there is chutzpa, and this is a chutzpa that crosses the line!

It is one thing when an individual succumbs to the many enticements of his society or allows his yetzer hara to get the best of him, but it's something else again to flaunt this desecration in everyone's face, and more, to point an accusatory finger at all those who refuse to endorse it...that's colossal chutzpa! And that is exactly what Feldman did. He excoriated his alma mater and the Modern Orthodox community it represents for refusing to accept or acknowledge his gentile wife [...] all this to justify his betrayal and to exact vengeance on the Modern Orthodox Day School which chose to excise his and his gentile wife's faces from a class reunion photograph.

One cannot help but wonder why the graduate of a Jewish day school, would wish to flaunt his abandonment of his school's teachings in a secular publication like the New York Times. One need not be a psychiatrist to perceive that Feldman is ridden with Jewish guilt which very often culminates in Jewish self-hate. Alas, we have witnessed such manifestations throughout our history - people who forsook our teachings, our values and became turncoats. Their anger and bitterness was such that they were prepared to burn down their own Jewish houses to justify their stance.

[...]

What I find most disconcerting however, is that stories such as these drive yet another nail into the coffin of Jewish intermarriage. Soon after Noah Feldman's plaint was published, articles appeared asking for a more welcoming attitude toward those who intermarried. And mind you, these articles were not written by members of the Reform movement - (they embraced intermarriage long ago). Sadly, they came from traditional sources. Hardly what our young people need to hear in an ever-growing climate of intermarriage.

[...]

My dear Noah:

You were disturbed when your alumni newspaper did not extend a mazel tov upon your marriage to a non-Jewish woman and the birth of your child.. But in all fairness, what mazel tov can there be for the Jewish people when you marry out and bring a child into the world who is not a Jew? There is no mazel tov in the knowledge that there will be no continuity for your seed..... that you will be the last Jew on your family tree. There is no mazal or joy in that. There is no mazel tov for your zeides and bubbies, who sacrificed and were prepared to die so that our people might live. No, Noah, there is no mazel tov - there is only pain - pain for your family, pain for your people, pain for your G-d.

The Jewish people need you, Noah. May Hashem grant that a miracle occur and you somehow find your way back home to Torah.

Rebbetzin Esther Jungreis, Hineni 23 Comments [1/10/2015 7:08:55 AM]
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Quote# 105726

My success rate in stopping intermarriages is 100%.

My secret: I never waste my time talking to the Jewish partner, they are much too stubborn.

Instead I talk to the shiksa girlfrienc and tell her that if she marries him, he will burn in Hell.

The intermarrying Jewish does not believe in Hell, but his shiksa girlfriend does.

It is also helpful to point out the fact that intermarriages have a much higher divorce rate, and the fact children of mixed marriages are confused.

Nathan, Beyond Teshuva: Jewish Spiritual Growth 34 Comments [1/10/2015 7:08:41 AM]
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Quote# 105725

The alleged gang rape of an 11-year-old girl has torn apart a Texas community, with some focusing on the girl and her parents as much as, if not more than, the 18 people accused of sexually assaulting her.

[...]

On Thursday, Quanell X, a community activist, traveled from Houston to help stage a town hall meeting called to address rising concerns -- especially in Cleveland's African-American community -- about the case.

Among other issues, he said that the girl didn't do enough to stop the alleged assailants.

"It was not the young girl that yelled rape. Stop right there -- something is wrong, brothers and sisters," Quanell X said.

And, speaking over yells of support from the crowd, he also questioned the role of the girl's parents.

"Where was the mother? Where was the father?" he said.

[Bolding added.]

Quanell X, CNN 65 Comments [1/10/2015 4:33:09 AM]
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Quote# 105721

::This person is British and supports a Christian theocracy. The post is in response to an atheist pointing out that's just as dangerous to nonbelievers as Sharia law.::

I think you misunderstand the nature of a Christian theocracy which would give more scope for freewill and people making mistakes- unlike Sharia law. Gay sex is an abomination to God and we do no gay man any favours by simply turning a blind eye to it. But many people struggle with gay tendencies and do not necessarily do anything with those. People can change and in the right context with the right response to God would. I personally do not think that freedom of worship is incompatible with a Christian theocracy so long as the central authority and laws are set by Christians. But certain things like Sharia law would be impossible in a Christian theocracy and public processions of idols as with Hinduism. I would also be very tolerant of Jewish people believing that God has a purpose for them. Also atheists like yourself would still be free to express your views albeit not from positions of authority.


mindlight, Christian Forums 30 Comments [1/10/2015 4:31:52 AM]
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Submitted By: ScrappyB

Quote# 105719

Harvey, who also hosts a radio show and started his career in stand-up comedy, went on to say that Darwinism is essentially nonsense because he doesn’t think the universe “spun out of a gastrous ball and then all of a sudden we were evolved from monkeys.” If that were true, he says, then “why we still got monkeys?”

Harvey, host of the Family Feud, the Steve Harvey show, and author of the best seller Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man made his comments during separate interviews with talks show hosts Tyra Banks and Joy Behar.

During the interview with Tyra Banks, an audience member asked for some dating advice and Harvey said one of the most important questions to ask is, “Does he have a relationship with God?”

Steve Harvey, CNSnews. com 37 Comments [1/10/2015 4:31:31 AM]
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Submitted By: KittyKaboom

Quote# 105718

LC prides itself on showcasing how people live, offering a look into a world we may not often see. The cable network has brought us The Duggars, The Little Couple and Sister Wives.

On Sunday, TLC plans to air My Husband's Not Gay, a one-hour special about four Mormon men who are married to women but attracted to men. They refer to it as SSA, Same Sex Attraction. In the special, the four couples explore talk about their lifestyle decisions.

It's causing controversy before it has even aired.

A petition started by Josh Sanders on Change.org says the show "promotes the false and dangerous idea that gay people can and should choose to be straight in order to be part of their faith communities."

Sanders goes on to say he is a "devout Christian" who was told as he was growing up that he should "pray the gay away." In the end, it only caused "despair."

GLAAD president and CEO Sarah Kate Ellis echoes his sentiment, saying in a statement on the group's site, "This show is downright irresponsible. No one can change who they love, and, more importantly, no one should have to. By investing in this dangerous programming, TLC is putting countless young LGBT people in harm's way."

[...]

As one man on the show says, "Just like I can't choose not to be gay, I can't choose not to be a person of faith."

TLC has responded to the objections, saying in a statement, "The individuals featured in this one-hour special reveal the decisions they have made, and speak only for themselves."

On Tuesday's Good Morning America, Robin Roberts said the "gay community is really fired up" about the show. "To even give the idea that it is a choice can be very dangerous especially to young people who are dealing with their sexuality and trying to figure things out."

TLC, USA Today 26 Comments [1/10/2015 4:31:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 105716

Top Ten Anti-Christian Acts of 2014

2014 was another wild and frustrating year for American Christians as the threats to our liberties and values are increasing. Here are the results of our online poll of the Top Ten Anti-Christian Acts of 2014. It’s not as predicable as you might think.

Rather than getting lost in the trees and not recognizing the forest, lets look at the larger trends revealed in the poll, and they are disconcerting.

Political correctness about social issues, (sexual deviancy and abortion) has been institutionalized publicly and privately. Biblically faithful Christians and their institutions are being pressured to compromise their values and accept arbitrary, tyrannical, secular ethics or feel the wrath of politicians, the courts, the academy, the media, and business.

Churches are being coerced to subsidize abortions, a pastor is on trial for telling the truth, ministers are bullied by a tyrannical mayor, and Christ is continuing to be blasphemed on network TV.

This is a sobering set of facts, but ones that ought to stir us to action, not resignation. As we pray and act, we do so in faith that God can turn us back to him. The means He uses our bold, counter-cultural voices of Truth. Christ calls us back to reality and to respect for His ordained institution of marriage and the sanctity of life created in His image and freedom to declare the whole counsel of God’s Word.

Share this list with your family and friends. We MUST engage in concerted prayer, evangelism and seek FIRST God’s Kingdom and His righteousness. America is ripe for either God’s justice or a heaven sent revival.

1. Christian colleges are now facing a new threat to their institutions... allow homosexual behavior or be stripped of accreditation. The New England Association of Schools and Colleges is threatening to strip Gordon College, of their accreditation unless the college accepts “homosexual practice” by it’s students.

2. Federal Judge, Michael Posner, ignored Supreme Court precedence and allowed a frivolous lawsuit to move forward against American minster, Scott Lively. Lively is a minister and an attorney and was invited by the Ugandan legislature to help them create laws to protect their society from the homosexual movement. Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG), hauled Rev. Lively to US Federal Court under international law accusing him of “crimes against humanity.”

3. Annise Parker, the lesbian Houston mayor, ordered city’s churches to turn over sermons, any e-mails, text messages, and other communications that talk about homosexuality, gender identity issues, or Annise Parker herself. The pastors were targeted after organizing descent against a rbill passed by the city council that allowed transgender individuals to use the bathroom of their choice. After news spread throughout the Country, Parker’s attorney’s dropped the subpoenas.

4. HGTV canceled a new program, “Flip It Forward”, because of the stars support of traditional marriage. The series followed the life of two brothers, David and Jason Benham, as they helped struggling families buy fixer-upper homes and transform them into forever homes. Both brothers have been vocal about their support for traditional marriage.

5. The Girl Scouts USA introduced family planning into their curriculum in partnership with Planned Parenthood. The Girls Scouts also tout the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, as an “eloquent woman”.

6. California churches are now required to cover the costs of abortions as “basic health care.” The state legislature is trying to exploit a “loop-hole” in the national healthcare law for the pro-abortion agenda.

7. Mozilla CEO, Brendan Eich, was forced to resign from the huge tech company he founded after it was discovered he donated $1,000 towards legislation to uphold traditional marriage in California. Proposition 8 was a ballet initiative in support of traditional marriage that was approved by a majority of California voters, but was later ruled unconstitutional by the California Supreme Court.

8. American tax dollars are still being used to pay for abortions. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) in Washington, found that at least 1,036 plans use your tax dollars to fund abortion-on-demand.

9. A California male high school teacher returned as a woman from spring break. 56 year-old married father, Gary Sconce, has been a teacher at the rural Yosemite High School for 24 years. But after a letter was sent to the parents, he returned from the break as “Karen Adell Scot.”

10. “I only wish the Virgin would’ve had an abortion,” was belted out in a song by musical guest, Kristeen Young, on CBS’s The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson. “The song,” according to Young, “is about the centuries of religious persecution of women.”

Gary Cass, Defend Christians 33 Comments [1/10/2015 4:30:26 AM]
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Submitted By: skybison

Quote# 105715

A recent article in Christianity Today is headlined: “Pop Francis: Why Everyone Loves the Pope.” It lauds Francis’ “unscripted” style “committed to breaking down the often-bitter rivalry between evangelicals and Catholics.” It mentions his recent apology to Italian Evangelicals for the Catholic religion’s participation in persecution of Pentecostals prior to World War II.

Note this statement from the article: “At the Second Vatican Council, the Catholic Church adopted a much more biblical approach, transforming its worship and fundamentally changing its relation to modern secular culture.”

How does a new PR campaign and an updated system of rituals make it more biblical? To be more biblical, purgatory would have to go, along with worship of the wafer-god and virgin goddess, works salvation, and the pope’s claim that tradition and the Magisterium are equal to or supersede Scripture.

Even after all these changes, we would have to ask, which Bible? Author David W. Daniels points out in his book, Why They Changed the Bible, how all modern Bibles are increasingly slanted to support Rome’s pagan dogmas. An entire section is devoted to the scheme to include the Apocrypha in the Bible. He describes how the Bible societies were, from the beginning, infiltrated with Jesuits or Vatican sympathizers. Bible societies agreed not only to change text wording to favor unbiblical Catholic teaching, but to add in the Apocrypha whenever requested. Bible translators all over the world are subject to a 1960s agreement with the Vatican to add the Apocrypha to any translation if the Catholic people groups ask for it. The history and tragic results of this are detailed in Why They Changed the Bible.

Seminaries all over the world are starting to require their students to get Bibles complete with something called the “Deuterocanonicals.” This is another word for what we know as the Apocrypha. It is also a deceptive word. It makes the reader think these fairytales, superstitions and occultism are actually a “secondary canon” on a level just below scripture —“scripture lite.” The truth is that they have raised men’s words to the level of God’s words and have lowered God’s words to the level of man’s.

The Vatican desperately needs the Apocrypha in the Bible. When they cannot distort a Bible passage to fit one of their pagan doctrines, they resort to the Apocrypha. For example, their teaching of purgatory is based on the Apocryphal books of 2 Maccabees 12:45 and Tobit 12:9. Using money to pay for sins  appears in Ecclesiasticus 3:30 “Water will quench a flaming fire; and alms maketh an atonement for sins.”

The Apocrypha also contains such strange advice as using smoked fish liver to dispel demons (Tobit 6), and suggest that suicide, in some cases, is manly and noble (2 Maccabees 14:37-46). Strange historical inaccuracies also appear, such as the death records of Antiochus Epiphanes, who must have died twice when you compare 2 Maccabees 2:13-16 to 9:1-29. A search of Christianbook.com turns up 46 items for sale related to the Deuterocanonicals/Apocrypha, with over two dozen Bibles that include them. Supposedly these are only for Roman Catholics, but Daniels’ research discovered that the groundwork has been laid over the decades within the Bible Societies to ultimately produce a Bible with the Apocrypha and subtle watering-down to create one world Bible for one world religion. This Jesuit pope’s PR campaign continues to sugarcoat the bait in the trap for Evangelicals who have already swallowed the poison of the modern (Catholic) versions.

Chick Publications, Chick.com 19 Comments [1/10/2015 4:30:10 AM]
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Quote# 105713

Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis was a guest on American Family Radio today, where he discussed with Tim Wildmon his new project building a Noah’s Ark theme park in Kentucky. Ham insisted that the theme park, a complement to Ham's Creation Museum, has come under attack from “intolerant” liberals who want to deny it taxpayer funding.

Last month, Kentucky’s tourism board announced that the Noah’s Ark park wouldn’t be eligible for an $18 million tourism tax break because Answers In Genesis intends to use the site to proseletize and refuses to promise not to discriminate based on religion in its hiring. The board noted that “[s]tate tourism tax incentives cannot be used to fund religious indoctrination or otherwise be used to advance religion," but Ham cried persecution, complaining that Kentucky had violated his “fundamental rights” by witholding the tax break.

In the American Family Radio interview, Ham continued to portray himself as the victim of “intolerant” liberals (like Bill Nye) while also inadvertently bolstering the tourism board’s case by announcing that the Noah’s Ark park will be “one of the greatest evangelist outreaches of our day, of our period in history.”

Ken Ham, Right Wing Watch 33 Comments [1/10/2015 4:29:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Giveitaday

Quote# 105709

It’s Not a Conspiracy Theory —It’s a Fact!

Students of biblical prophecy have long identified an end-time one-world government. Developments in the last hundred years have silenced those who disbelieved it. Various detailed plans for its accomplishment have surfaced over the years and current events have played out closely according to some of the plans.

One such revelation involves a Dr. Richard Day, late professor of pediatrics at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, and a former director of Planned Parenthood, who spoke of the plans of “The Order” to a group of pediatricians in 1969. Dr. Lawrence Dunegan was in the audience and prepared an audio tape from his notes in the conference.

Looking back, the plan's accurate prediction of recent developments is striking. Predictions included making abortion normal (spoken before Roe v Wade), sex education down to the youngest kids, encouraging homosexuality, limiting access to affordable health care and bringing down American preeminence in industry. Another objective was to destroy the normal family structure.

However, one of the most interesting parts of the plan dealt with Christians and the Bible: “The old religions will have to go, especially Christianity... Then a new religion can be accepted for use all over the world. It will incorporate something from all of the old ones to make it more easy for people to accept, and feel at home. Most people won’t be too concerned with religion. They will realize that they don’t need it.

“In order to do this, the Bible will be changed. It will be rewritten to fit the new religion. Gradually, key words will be replaced with new words having various shades of meaning. Then the meaning attached to the new word can be close to the old word and as time goes on, other shades of meaning of that word can be emphasized. And then gradually that word replaced with another word.”

Dunegan explained, “...the idea is that everything in Scripture need not be rewritten, just key words replaced by other words. The variability in meaning attached to any word can be used as a tool to change the entire meaning of Scripture, and therefore make it acceptable to this new religion.”

A classic example of this subtle change is the places in the New Testament where the word “saved” is changed to “being saved.” (See Luke 13:23, Acts 2:47, 1 Cor. 1:18, and 2 Cor. 2:15.) Over one billion Catholics are taught that to claim you are “saved” is the sin of presumption. You are “being saved” and “on the road to salvation” through regular attendance at a re-sacrifice of Christ (Mass), confession of sins to a man who “absolves” them, belief in a wafer-god and worship of a virgin (Mary) goddess.

Do you see how this change shifts the meaning to fit the salvation-by-works heresy of Roman Catholicism? David W. Daniels details in his book, Why They Changed the Bible, how the modern Bibles are a product of over a century of effort to subtly bend the text toward a one-world Bible for a one-world religion. When Bible societies were first established in the early 1800s, ungodly society members succeeded in establishing polluted Greek and Hebrew texts as the foundational translation documents for not only English bibles, but all languages, both common and those used by organizations such as Wycliffe.

His book also describes how the Jesuits were central in this effort. Their goal is to get the Apocrypha included in your Bible to support more of their pagan doctrines. We are very late in this process. The present Jesuit pope is even now pushing hard for unity toward the end-times one-world religion.

Chick Publications, Chick.com 43 Comments [1/9/2015 3:53:10 AM]
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Quote# 105708

[This man believes that Hitler was an avat ar of the god Woden]

Can we not now see that the last two World Wars were the work of Loki - the Enemy Within - since this is exactly the same historical workings as we have here in very ancient times. In this Loki backs one side over the other and both are decimated in the battles that he has caused. In fact we see Loki working on both sides in war after war after war. Note the phrase which fits today's world - 'in order that they may mutually destroy each other' which is exactly what is happening to our Folk today.

We may also gleam a hint of the same evil force as Loki in the figure of Gollum in the Lord of the Rings, since Gollum is always by the side of the Shire-Folk, always seeking to kill them in order to regain the Ring of Power. Gollum, as Smeagol, slays his own kinsman, Deagol, in order to get the One Ring from him, and then becomes obsessed with the power of the Gold Ring. I have no idea where Tolkien got the idea of the Gollum or whether it relates to the Golem which was an artificial creature of a totally destructive nature formed by a Jewish Rabbi (*) in Prague, using Dark Sorcery.

(*) I believe that Karl Marx was descended from this same Rabbi.

Wulf Ingessunu, Inglinga 38 Comments [1/9/2015 3:52:27 AM]
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Quote# 105706

Americans murder (abort) over 4,000 of their own children every single day, but then we condemn Muslim cultures for the way they treat women. What hypocrites! Our sick and twisted way of thinking in America is Satanic! It's ok to murder a child in the womb? Homosexuality is ok? Same-sex marriage is ok? Indecent magazines and videos are ok? We're sick in America. We Americans can murder, lust, fornicate, commit perversion, lie, divorce and covet; but then we demonize and look down on Arabs as an inferior culture because their women are required to cover-up with clothes, be quiet in men's matters and smutty television is banned. We're very spiritually sick in America. Our television is sexually perverse, which offends most Arab cultures. They're far more moral than we are. I love Arab people. I despise Allah, a false god; but I love the descendants of Abraham's son, Ishmael, the firstborn.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 33 Comments [1/9/2015 3:51:28 AM]
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Quote# 105705

In America, slavery is illegal (13th Amendment). So, for anyone in America to practice slavery, it would be wrong. It would be a violation of Romans 13:1-5 and 1 Peter 2:13-14. But, is slavery evil in and of itself? Some think so.

[...]

"Christians" of the past have argued both for and against slavery.1 Yet, Scripture is not unclear on this issue. Even atheists have caught the drift, and have therefore reviled the Word of God on this issue alone.

[..]

So speaks the fool (Psalm 14:1). Yet, this fool knows what some "Christians" have not recognized, that is, that Scripture indeed accepts the practice of slavery.

For example, Alexander McLeod (1774-1833), pastor of the Reformed Presbyterian Church of New York.

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This pastor was way off!

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Believers in the first century owned slaves (Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1; 1 Timothy 6:2), and they were not instructed to let them go; but rather, to treat them with justice, as Colossians 4:1 says.

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In the past, some have bristled at the fact that slavery reduces a human being to "an article of property, a chattel personal" (Theodore Dwight, 1803-1895, The Bible Against Slavery). John Wesley wrote,

It cannot be, even setting Revelation aside. It cannot be, that either war, or contract, can give any man such a property in another as he has in his sheep and oxen. Much less is it possible, that any child of man should ever be born a slave. Liberty is the right of every human creature, as soon as he breathes the vital air; and no human law can deprive him of that right which he derives from the law of nature. (http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/wesley/thoughtsuponslavery.stm)

Wesley did indeed set revelation aside. Because, the revelation of God reveals no such "law of nature," but rather the law of God

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In Exodus 21, the Lord reveals that a slave, as the property of the slave owner, does not have the same status a free man has, even when it came to killing a man. Exodus 21:12 says,

He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death.

Yet, later in the chapter, the Lord gives this instruction regarding slaves.

And if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod, so that he dies under his hand, he shall surely be punished. Notwithstanding, if he remains alive a day or two, he shall not be punished; for he is his property. (Exodus 21:20-21)

Note, if the slave lived a day or two, and then died, there would be no punishment at all, and the reason given is because "he is his property."

The slave owner had the right to correct his slaves, as Proverbs 26:3 states,

A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the fool's back. (see also Proverbs 10:13; 29:19)

This does not mean it was right to inflict undue harm upon a slave (Micah 6:8; Colossians 4:1). But it does mean that a slave owner could render correction when needed.

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An evil man may very well encourage slaves to rebel against their masters (Proverbs 17:11), but Scripture teaches just the opposite.

The Lord does not instruct slaves to run away and claim their freedom. Instead, the Lord instructs them to stay where they are and be good slaves, as the Lord instructed Abraham's slave, Hagar.

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Here Hagar was free. She had run away from her mistress (Genesis 16:4-6) and had freed herself from harsh treatment. Yet, even in the context of being treated harshly, the Lord told her to go back and submit herself to Sarai.

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Although slavery at times can be a curse (Deuteronomy 28:68; Joshua 9:23; Proverbs 12:24; Lamentations 1:1; Joel 3:8), it can also be good (e.g. Deuteronomy 15:12-17; Joshua 9:24).

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Rev. Darwin Fish, A True Church 31 Comments [1/9/2015 3:51:23 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 105700

The planned Gay Pride march in Jerusalem - whether it takes place or not - is, no doubt, triggering a number of reactions in the Jewish world. But while most discussions revolve around national and religious issues, some of us are affected on a far more personal level. For those of us who are dealing with homosexual desires, this march represents a major crossroad in our lives.

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Those of us who have this struggle owe it to ourselves to investigate all options before making decisions that could affect our entire lives; and contrary to what the Gay Movement would have us believe, other options are available. Unfortunately, many of these options have been belittled and stigmatized. The Gay Movement is very quick to cite ineffective or inhumane treatments of the past, such as exposing homosexual men to gay pornography and then giving them electrical shocks, or advising them to snap themselves with an elastic band every time they had a homosexual thought. Even if these techniques were once considered a cure for homosexuality, they are no longer.

Today, therapists have a far deeper insight into the root causes of homosexuality, and it is at this deeper level that they focus. When I started reading about their theories and insights, and the life stories of people they were helping, I was amazed. It was as though they had summarized my life into a book. I realized there must be a classic pattern to the causes of same-sex attractions (SSA), and it seemed they understood these well. You may be surprised at how closely their ideas resonate with you and your experiences.

Akiva, Arutz Sheva 7 19 Comments [1/8/2015 4:32:56 AM]
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Quote# 105699

Brad Pitt’s faith that God doesn’t exist wavers a little. He said, “I oscillate between agnosticism and atheism.” Sometimes he’s an atheist, other times he’s not. He said, “I don’t think anyone really knows. You’ll either find out or not when you get there, until then there’s no point thinking about it.”

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According to Extra, Mr. Pitt told the Hollywood Reporter that he “got brought up being told things were God’s way, and when things didn’t work out it was called God’s plan.” He also said, “I grew up being told God is going to take care of everything and it doesn’t always work out that way. And then you’re told ‘Well, it’s God’s will.’ I got my issues. Man, you don’t want to get me started.”

If I had a meal with Brad Pitt, I would tell him that he heard the wrong gospel — one that wrongly portrays God as some sort of divine butler, who will come running when we click our fingers. It doesn’t work like that, and he’s not the only one who ended up disillusioned by that spurious gospel. I would also ask him to let me take him through a few of the Ten Commandments to show him that he is in great danger. The applicable analogy would be a man who is standing on the edge of a plane, 10,000 feet above the ground. He refuses to put on a parachute because he thinks he will find out if he needs a parachute after he jumps, and until that time there’s no point in thinking about it. To begin thinking about it is the seed that can grow into understanding the truth that “Jesus Christ has abolished death, and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.”

Ray Comfort, Before It's News 44 Comments [1/8/2015 4:32:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 105697

(Ken Ham's response to each of the “10 Atheist Non-Commandments")

1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.

Romans 1:18–23 tells us that everyone—including atheists—knows that there is a God, but that many suppress this truth in unrighteousness. These atheists need to have their eyes opened to see the truth that is clearly evident in all that God has made—there is a Creator, the God of the Bible.

2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.

Second Peter 3:5–6 says that no one is an unbiased seeker of the truth but, rather, that those who reject the history of the Bible do so willingly: “For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.”

3. The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world.

Scripture makes it plain that the scientific method is not enough to understand the world around us because there is a spiritual reality. But a person without God’s Holy Spirit cannot properly understand the world because spiritual things are discerned only by those who have God’s Spirit, “But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned” (1 Corinthians 2:14).

4. Every person has the right to control of their body.

Second Peter 2:19 says it all, “While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.”

5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life.

“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23) and “the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23). Also, I think of this verse: “So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God” (Luke 18:19).

6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them.

In an atheistic, evolutionary worldview why should anyone even care about the consequences of my actions, as long as it doesn’t hurt me? And why do I have to take responsibility for my actions? According to evolutionary thinking, we are just animals. No one punishes a lion for killing an antelope, so why should I be responsible if I decide to take the life of another “animal”? But we are not animals, and each person is responsible and accountable for their actions—accountable to their Creator, the Judge (2 Thessalonians 1:7–10).

7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.

This is a biblical—not an atheistic—principle. See Luke 6:31–36. To be atheistic, a secularist should say that you can treat others however you want to—there are no boundaries.

8. We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations.

Again, this is a biblical principle (John 13:34; cf. John 3:16 and John 15:13). Now, from a biblical worldview it makes sense that we are responsible to our Creator for how we treat others, but in an atheistic worldview what, or who, gives me any responsibility to consider others? Isn’t evolution supposed to be about the survival of the fittest? If you die and that’s it, why does it matter how I treated others while I lived? In order for atheists to say that we are responsible for how we treat others, they have to borrow from a biblical worldview!

9. There is no one right way to live.

Who says that there is no one right way to live? By what authority can they say this? And if there really is no one right way to live, then what is the point of this list about how atheists should live? And, by saying this, they are declaring that their way of living is superior to those who would disagree with this statement! Actually, there is only one right way to live—by living with the life that Jesus offers (John 14:6).

10. Leave the world a better place than you found it.

In an atheistic worldview, why should we have to leave Earth better than we found it? Who defines “better” anyway? If life really is the result of evolutionary processes, then life should be about the strongest surviving and the weakest dying and that certainly doesn’t imply that we should care about the world. Here, yet again, the atheist is borrowing from the biblical teaching of stewardship (Genesis 1:28, 2:15).

These 10 Atheist Non-Commandments are meaningless in an atheistic worldview because they are not grounded in anything. The issue of morality is an insurmountable problem for an atheistic worldview. But in a biblical worldview having 10 Commandments makes sense because we have a Creator who made us and who therefore has the right to set the rules. And God has revealed those rules and absolutes to us through His Word. Only in a biblical worldview does morality make sense!

Ken Ham, Around The World with Ken Ham 54 Comments [1/8/2015 4:32:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 105696

The authors of a new book on atheistic living held a contest in which they invited secularists to submit their suggestions for “10 Atheist Non-Commandments.” (By the way—isn’t it interesting that they are doing what the devil has been doing since Genesis 3: trying to counterfeit what God has done?)

According to CNN, this contest received 2,800 submissions from 18 different countries. But really, what is the point of atheists writing up a list of non-commandments? What is a “non-commandment” anyway? They have no basis for their moral views other than their own opinions, which can vary from atheist to atheist on certain matters! Without an absolute standard given by our Creator, atheists have no foundation for their moral beliefs, as the name “non-commandments” implies. Morality simply becomes “everyone doing what is right in their own eyes” (Judges 21:25). Of course, these non-commandments are just a mockery of the commandments handed to us by our Lord and Creator. Another verse that sums up what these increasingly aggressive atheists in our culture are doing is this one:

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20).

Ken Ham, Around The World with Ken Ham 36 Comments [1/8/2015 4:32:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris