Quote# 114373

I agree ...... demons can mimic the likeness of a deceased person for all sorts of reasons. They have fun scaring people in old houses but the #1 reason they "haunt", imho, is to discredit the Bible on its teaching about Heaven and Hell.

My dear parents were unbelievers as far as I know {there's always hope a person may have quietly called out to Jesus at the end}. After my Mom died, my grieving Dad swore emphatically that she would sometimes be standing in the living room, smiling, surrounded by a beautiful glowing light. He told everyone who'd listen that it was no illusion .... that her spirit was really there. He was certain she had come back to comfort him. As an unbeliever at the time I was skeptical but kept an open mind.

A few months later I was saved and learned what paranormal apparitions really are. I had a talk with my Dad -- gently telling him it wasn't my Mother he had seen but a cruel deception by Satan meant to confuse him. I explained that God does not allow the dead to visit the living, and that their eternal destiny is in God's hands depending on if they had faith in Christ or not.

With tears streaming down his face, my sweet Dad heard the Gospel.....all because a demon decided to mess with him. I can't say for sure if he eventually gave his life to Christ at some point but a couple of times when I popped by his house I "caught" him listening to preaching on Christian TV or radio.


BarbT, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [11/13/2015 4:13:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 114371

Arkansas pastor Jeff Crawford argued over the weekend that a woman has no “right over her own body” because it is owned by God.

During a Sunday sermon at Crosschurch about the dangers of pornography, Crawford likened the issue to abortion rights.

“We have bought into what I want to call this morning theological dualism,” the pastor opined. “This is the idea that you can separate what goes on with our bodies with what goes on soul and spirit.”

According to Crawford, the Bible contradicted the belief that people had a right to control their own bodies.

“This idea that you hear about in the abortion debate that it’s a woman’s right to choose and she has the right over her own body, no, that’s not true!” he exclaimed. “What that means is that your arms and your legs and your head, it all belongs to God.”

Jeff Crawford , RawStory 36 Comments [11/13/2015 4:12:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 114369

I don’t care if Dr Carson is a creationist or not. Indeed, my opinion of creationism goes up every time I hear of a rocket scientist or brain surgeon who supports it.

For that matter, George Washington was a creationist, as were all educated and civilized men before Darwin erected his rather tenuous hypothesis that species can change characteristics to a point where they form a new species, intersterile with their parent species via an blind process called by the oxymoron ‘natural selection’ (which is to say, unplanned planning; undesigned design).

This theory is not widespread because it satisfies scientific rigor (it does not) but because it pretends to offer a satisfactory explanation for the origin of man that is naturalistic and non-theistic (it is not).

The fact that no scientific observation or experiment has ever confirmed this origin story for man makes it, as far as I am concerned, a dogma of faith taken on authority, but, unlike a religious dogma of faith, by hypothesis there is no authority on which to rely whose word we trust when he tells us it is by this means new species originate.

I don’t care if Dr. Carson thinks the pyramids of Egypt stored the grain of Joseph. I am deeply ashamed for our nation that our press put this matter before public attention, and that the public, including me, is wasting our time with it.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 39 Comments [11/12/2015 1:29:58 PM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 114368

I wonder why they left out very relevant details about the subject sample, stats which I, too, read elsewhere. The teachings of Jesus and the teachings of Muhammad are vastly different. On the point about being moral without a belief in God... because we are all made in the image of God and therefore have a moral compass (conscience) that is innate, of course people can be moral without believing in the God who put that unwritten code of ethics within them.

GHaw, The Christian Post 12 Comments [11/12/2015 11:54:42 AM]
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Quote# 114367

Looney Tunes is an American animated series of comedy short films produced by Warner Bros. from 1930 to 1969. Looney Tunes initially showcased Warner-owned musical compositions through the adventures of cartoon characters.

Since its success during the short film era of cartoons, Looney Tunes has become a worldwide media franchise.

What are cartoons?

Cartoon:

1. a simple drawing showing the features of its subjects in a humourously exaggerated way, especially a satirical one in a newspaper of magazine.
2. a motion picture using animation techniques to photograph a sequence of drawings rather than real people or objects.

(see What are graven images?, Mickey Mouse programming and Movies and Magic)

Now let us examine the origin of the word ‘cartoon’:

A car, the prefix of cartoon (car + toon) by definition is:

1. a vehicle moving on wheels: as

a) archaic: a carriage, chariot
b) a vehicle designed to move on rails (as of a railroad)
c) automobile

2. the passenger compartment of an elevator
3. the part of an airship or balloon that carries the passengers or cargo
A car is in summation something that has motion (animation) and carries a person, a living soul, an animal, an inanimate object, an idea and/or an energy.

The etymology of the word toon, as the suffix to cartoon:

A toon, as a suffix phonetically sounds to be a derivative of the Punjabi word tuna, which means: witchcraft; unfavourable; unfavourably; unfortunate; miserable; necromancy; magic; inexcusable; hocus pocus (see Wake Up! It’s 1984).

Witches and witchcraft is a recurring theme in animated films. Arguably, a car + toon = cartoon is a vehicle, is a vessel that uses sights and sounds (tunes); to harness and carry witchcraft, magic. Thus, a cartoon is a form of witchcraft, magic, which often uses sounds (tunes = frequencies) to reinforce the spells. It casts; misdirecting and locking the conscious and subconscious mind.

It is little to no wonder that children raised on inordinate amounts of fantasy and fiction have a very difficult time dealing in logic and reality, as adults.

The intent to programming a child with Looney Tunes is to make the child tune into fantasy and tune out of reality, so that when he/she becomes an adult, he/she will mentally malfunction as a mental incompetent (see Age of the TV slaves and The Sound of Music).

Many of us are mind controlled puppets and do not know it.

angelishka, The Talking Pot 45 Comments [11/12/2015 11:52:07 AM]
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Submitted By: undie not fundie

Quote# 114365

Well...I will tell you one thing...the Higgs isn't a particle...it is a property...not unlike gravity and comes from the same route using the same mechanics...but hey...you don't believe in the Holy Bible which is the proofing ground for all of science...so you musn't expect special privileges.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 15 Comments [11/12/2015 11:49:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 114364

Some women excuse their immodest dress by saying lust is the man’s problem, but Jesus Christ warned that fornication begins as lust

“But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. , and the woman who does not clothe herself properly is guilty of stirring up unlawful passions in the man.” – Matthew 5:28

Elmwood Baptist Church, Elmwood Baptist Church 31 Comments [11/12/2015 11:49:20 AM]
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Quote# 114361

"You didn't know [barbwire.com] was Matt Barber's [website]? FASCINATING man. Read all about him on the Southern Poverty Law Center."

Quoting SPLC is worse than quoting Star Trek and Wiki. SPLC is a confirmed terrorist organization. Pretty sure you are a terrorist too, at least for babies in the womb.

WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 22 Comments [11/12/2015 11:49:14 AM]
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Quote# 114360

I'll say it for you again Hope if you like. Though the general population might be fooled, the entire scientific community is the product of the excesses of the middle classes...Those with so much free time on their hands to think and ponder on these scientific matters. Their university training the result of the wealth of their sponsors...usually their wealthy parents, and the entire scientific process manipulated by the same thinking.

Now...If you recall...Jesus Christ wasn't over pleased with these unearned privileges which denied the common people of the same free time whilst the produce of the sciences are cornered by the greedy merchants for the very purpose of high profits and greed...which keeps the cycle going.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 17 Comments [11/12/2015 11:49:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 114354

[Any reasoning at all would be helpful though. It's a simple enough question - having committed the negative proof fallacy so beloved of Hope, how would you propose to get out of it? How even in principle do you think it's possible to prove that something didn't happen?]


How is God, the Son and Holy Spirit negative proof?
Well we are waiting for you to explain. You first have to understand the reasoning of God and Christianity to raise even your chocolate sword toward it. So far you have nothing regarding reasoning to hold a chocolate sword to the truth of God.
So instead of words lets have some real understanding and reasoning from you.


Sassy, Religion and Ethics 32 Comments [11/12/2015 4:15:37 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 114353

[And, in a court of law, a claim that Jesus was real would be thrown out in moments as, at best, hearsay - it would be inadmissible in evidence. Eye-witness testimony, delivered in person, is permitted (and, for cultural reasons, given undue weight) but the allegation that someone told you they'd seen it, without the opportunity to cross-examine them to determine how accurate their memory is or trustworthy their contribution is would be thrown out.]

It wouldn't... the oath in court says " I swear by Almighty God" it would hypocritical to accept an oath sworn by Almighty God then throw out the belief Jesus was real. It is a fact that a third of the world accept Christ as real. So by that fact alone they could not throw out that Christ actually was real.

Sassy, Religion and Ethics 22 Comments [11/12/2015 4:12:18 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 114352

Some people are angry about Starbucks’ new holiday cups. Really angry.

What is the issue, exactly?

In previous years, Starbucks’ iconic holiday cups, which the chain uses in lieu of white cups in November and December, featured wintry or Christmas-themed designs like snowflakes, ornaments and nature scenes. This year, the cups are more minimalist -- a red ombre design that Jeffrey Fields, Starbucks' vice president of design, said was meant to embrace “the simplicity and the quietness” of the holiday season.

This is a huge problem for some people, who feel that the plain red cups are oppressing Christians by insulting Christmas.

“This is a denial of historical reality and the great Christian heritage behind the American Dream that has so benefitted Starbucks,” Andrea Williams of the U.K.-based organization Christian Concern told Breitbart. “This also denies the hope of Jesus Christ and His story so powerfully at this time of year.”

Others have shared similar thoughts on social media.

To clarify, it's not like the previous cups were decked out in crosses and mangers. It’s unclear why a drawing of a winking snowman or a dog sledding, for instance, is more “Christian” than a plain red and green (you know, Christmas colors) cup.

But either way, angry Starbucks patrons have a solution. Former pastor Joshua Feuerstein claimed in a viral Facebook video that he had “pranked” Starbucks by simply telling them his name was “Merry Christmas” -- thus forcing the surely unimpressed barista to write the words “Merry Christmas” on the cup.

Feuerstein also noted that he brought a gun into the coffee shop, in spite of Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz' request that patrons leave their firearms at home.

Josh Feuerstein, Huffington Post 33 Comments [11/12/2015 4:11:42 AM]
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Submitted By: KittyKaboom

Quote# 114351

I've had some secular fundamentalists tell me that this doesn't make the document or the nation Christian in any sense since the dating formula was simply customary. It’s what everybody did.

I respond by saying this makes the case even worse for them, since they are admitting that it was so common for the Founders to think of Jesus as Lord and His life as the turning point of all history that they had not a moment's hesitation in putting His name in our foundational document, expressing their personal allegiance to Him, and dating it from the year of His birth.


Bryan Fischer, American Family Association 32 Comments [11/12/2015 4:11:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 114343

Now of course, I have no cause to go to Starbucks, although I can happily admit to shoving a Royale with Cheese into my gob after a particularly frivolous night out.

But I did go this morning, after seeing a Facebook post by a colleague of mine pointing out what Starbucks’ newest “Red Cup” looks like. For those unfamiliar: one of Starbucks’ greatest marketing gimmicks is changing the colour of their cups from white to red every Christmas. I myself remember excitedly declaring to an ex-girlfriend how red cups heralded the beginning of Christmas (sorry, Peter Hitchens).

Yes, I was, as most people are, seduced by modern, mass-marketing, which has trounced traditionalism and replaced it with corporate logos and non-threatening jingles. And today I returned to my old, caffeinated Mecca (and the crowds made it feel like I was on the Hajj, too).

And what I found was deeply disappointing to 17-year-old, macchiato-chugging me. The Red Cups (do I need a trademark symbol after that?) are now an anti-Christmas symbol, with Starbucks declaring their formerly Christmassy cups to be “holiday beverages” and shedding any sign of Christmas from them.

[...]

I asked Starbucks why, but they just sent me a “factsheet” with their latest flavours and a link to their website where they’ve talked about wanting “to usher in the holidays with a purity of design that welcomes all of our stories.”

“We’re embracing the simplicity and the quietness of it. It’s [a] more open way to usher in the holiday,” said their CEO.

You can see what’s going on here. More open? You mean, you’re trying not to “offend” anyone.

Frankly, the only thing that can redeem them from this whitewashing of Christmas is to print Bible verses on their cups next year.

Not that I’d buy their burnt coffee anyway. And certainly not while they keep spelling my name “Ragih” (right) on their cups.

“But Ragih,” I hear you say. “Why do you care about what Starbucks is doing anyway? It’s crap coffee and none of us buy it.”

Sure, but plenty of people do. And subliminally, they’re being told/reminded that this time of the year is no longer about Christmas. It’s about the colour red, or something. It’s a “holiday season”. Don’t say Merry Christmas. It’s offensive.

And no, I’m not “reading too much into it”. This is happening. And it’s as disgusting as an Eggnog Latte.

Raheem Hassan, Breitbart 32 Comments [11/12/2015 4:09:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Yuu

Quote# 114342

Now what about the big bang theory, I find the big bang, really quite fascinating. I mean, here you have all these high-faluting scientists and they’re saying it was this gigantic explosion and everything came into perfect order. Now these are the same scientists that go around touting the second law of thermodynamics, which is entropy, which says that things move toward a state of disorganization. So now you’re gonna have this big explosion and everything becomes perfectly organized and when you ask them about it they say, ‘Well we can explain this, based on probability theory because if there’s enough big explosions, over a long period of time, billions and billions of years, one of them will be the perfect explosion. So I say what you’re telling me is if I blow a hurricane through a junkyard enough times over billions and billions of years, eventually after one of those hurricanes there will be a 747 fully loaded and ready to fly. Well, I mean, it’s even more ridiculous than that ‘cause our solar system, not to mention the universe outside of that, is extraordinarily well organized, to the point where we can predict 70 years away when a comet is coming. Now that type of organization to just come out of an explosion? I mean, you want to talk about fairy tales, that is amazing. And then even if you want to use their own scientific theories, you've got this mass spinning and then it explodes, in physics we have some called angular momentum and it is preserved, so it should be preserved in any orbit of anything that is affected by gravity around a planet, which means that everything has to traverse in the same direction. Well it doesn't. There are many planets that have satellites or moons that go in opposite directions so that doesn't work with angular momentum. And there are a whole series of things, what about all the debris from the billions and billions of explosions that were not perfect. Where's that? I mean we should be bombarded constantly by all this debris coming down, we're not seeing it. So there's a lot of things there that really require an enormous amount of faith and really what it boils down to is where do you want to put your faith? In Man or in God? Which one makes more sense? And I constantly say, now I'm a person of limited faith, I really don't have enough faith to believe that stuff that they say, I mean that is really beyond belief in terms of the number of coincidences that have to occur and the number of things that have to violate even their own principles in order for it to work.

Ben Carson, The New Yorker 34 Comments [11/12/2015 4:08:20 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 114340

Prophet Not Welcome in His Hometown

The Jacksonsville Jaquars are one of the worst teams in the NFL, racking up horrific records of 2-14, 4-12, and 3-13, in 2012, 2013, and 2014, respectively. Yet they have been adamant in not giving hometown hero Tim Tebow a chance to quarterback the club, despite how Tebow has been given opportunities by better teams and despite how he led the Denver Broncos to playoff success.

The Bible predicts this odd phenomenon in Matthew 13:57, Mark 6:4, and Luke 4:24. For example, Mark 6:4 quotes Jesus as stating:[4]

“A prophet is not without honor, except in his hometown and among his relatives and in his own household."

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 24 Comments [11/12/2015 4:08:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 114337

First, a homosexual is a person who has feelings of sexual attraction for someone of the same gender but does not act upon them. Such people do exist. In some cases they are ashamed of their homosexual impulses, wish they were not present, and would eagerly leave them behind if they knew how to do so.

Rachel Roberts , The Independent 15 Comments [11/12/2015 4:04:37 AM]
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Quote# 114332

When you point out a Bible verse about the reality of Judgment Day, do you ever have people say something like, "That's just your interpretation!"? If that happens, quote Luke 13:3 to them. Read it to them and ask them to give their interpretation. Get it into their hearts. It's quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword.

Also, never be concerned when sinners tell you that the Bible has changed or that it is filled with mistakes or that they don't believe it. The Bible was given as a lamp to our path, and it only gives us light when we approach it with childlike faith and humility of heart. So, don't worry about their unbelief. Get it into their hearts. It won't return void. Then pray that God brings it to life at the right time.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 37 Comments [11/11/2015 6:49:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 114330

The Liberal mind has the moral world upside down. It thinks God/Reality should bow and justify to it, rather than it to God/Reality. It thinks by collectivizing that it can force such bowing. But all it accomplishes is to make itself morally irrelevant, by surrendering its conscience, responsibility, and children to a false collective. It believes it has entitlement without responsibility, charity without sacrifice, and morality without limit. What it actually has is dehumanization. We are living in an age of moral zombies who celebrate zombiehood. There is no co-existence. There will prevail, one or the other.

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder....there is no other explanation (except spiritual). We don't need to over analyze it. When truth, facts, reason, logic and historic precedent fall on deaf ears you have psychosis on your hands.

A Democrat is the only animal (yes animal) that can kill a baby and say, “God bless you and God bless the United States.”

afchief, CNS News 25 Comments [11/11/2015 5:55:50 AM]
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Quote# 114329

What women hate more than anything is the fact that the “working world” isn’t easy. It’s extremely hard to balance a family, social, and work schedule. They’ve always had it easy. Sitting at dad’s home dreaming about sitting in another man’s home in a life of security that men gave her, of course. It’s like never leaving the womb. Women in general do not feel secure without a man. Again, it’s a crazy world out there and women refuse to realize exactly where they are – in a jungle. Men are not allowed to feel safe and secure. Men are constantly on guard and at work because women constantly need our supervision and protection. Yet, they mask this need for supervision with their constant need for attention and vice versa. If women need help they act like they love you. If they need love women act like they want their dad/boss. This is how they balance out being a woman, a weakling, and childish. They can’t escape this pussy ass lifestyle and it drives them insane. Penis envy is REAL. Jealousy of men’s bodies is real. They cover all that up by pretending to obsess over their own body, which they actually hate because there is no way to be a perfect woman. Women are still humans living in a violent world full of traps and jungles. They’ve made themselves dumb and weak on purpose, not because that it what men want from them, but because they are lazy and childish. You can become the greatest basketball player, the greatest mechanic, the greatest astronomer, and be proud of yourself, but 10’s come a dime a dozen. Being beautiful isn’t that hard and most so-called beautiful women aren’t even that good looking. They are completely fake. Nothing naturally beautiful about them. Yet, they all want to be the best looking thing on the planet, which won’t even last. An education lasts. Skills are usable. Women are trying to gain working and academic skills, but they have failed to do one thing. Stop waving their vagina around in the process. They can’t stop bending over and poking their ass out while at the same time claiming they are trying to stand tall and courageous.

HARVARDCRIMSON12, WOMEN NEED CONSTANT SUPERVISION 42 Comments [11/11/2015 4:49:03 AM]
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Submitted By: skybison

Quote# 114323

God is a whole lot smarter than we humans are. While we struggle over basic calculus problems, He’s managing every atom in existence. Given the obvious difference in our intellects, it’s a bit obnoxious for us to decide for God that sexual assault can have no possible benefit. Obviously He thinks it does, because He’s making it happen all the time in this world.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 32 Comments [11/11/2015 4:48:26 AM]
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Quote# 114320

For some reason, questions are showing up on my phone and not my PC, so I’ll answer this as a photo post.

1. How do you feel that National Socialism or Fascism is a solution?

Simple: National Socialism is Nature embodied in a sociopolitical ideology. With so much of the world turning against Nature—through the hypersexualization of ordinarily platonic things, increasing legitimization of identity disorders such as gender dysphoria or body integrity identity disorder, a devaluation of the nuclear family, an emphasis on rebelliousness and individualism, an abandonment of duty and integrity for the sake of self-gratification, and more—there needs to be a solution that restores the greatness of traditions past, which orders society based on merit rather than assumed equality, while also considering the need to fit the world we now live in.

National Socialism and its sister ideologies are that solution.

Nazisozi, Jim Rigsson 19 Comments [11/11/2015 4:04:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 114318

Well, it's official: The Obama Department of Education is being run by a bunch of lunatics who have taken the federal agency into the abyss of insanity.

As reported by The New York Times, a public school district in the state of Illinois has been found guilty of violating anti-discrimination laws – now get this – for failing to allow a male transgender student who "identifies as a girl" and "participates on a girls' sports team" to change and shower in the girls' locker room without any restrictions.

So in other words, the rights of one mentally confused boy who doesn't know what sex he is has now taken precedent over the rights of every real female student at the school who has now lost all expectations of privacy (not to mention decency and dignity).

Yes, pretty much.

This should leave you shaking your head in disbelief – and angry enough to want to see it changed.

...

Left-wing whacko president and his policies blowing up American society
What's even more unbelievable is that the Times reporter also refers to the male student as "she" throughout the story:

The district said she was allowed to change inside the girls' locker room, but only behind a curtain. The student, who has not been publicly identified, has said she would probably use that curtain to change. But she and the federal government have insisted that she be allowed to make that decision voluntarily, and not because of requirements by the district.


Oh, and you read that right – the boy gets to make the decision about whether he wants to dress and undress around naked girls, not the girls, not the school district and not the parents whose tax dollars fund it.

You know, ever since the advent of our modern public school system, teachers and school administrators have been trying to keep boys and girls out of each others' locker rooms (and each have been trying to get a peek into each others' locker rooms). Leave it to the most Left-wing whacko president in our history to blow up that traditional standard.

J. D. Heys, Natural News 17 Comments [11/11/2015 4:03:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 114317

For someone who founded the Department of Astrophysics at the American Museum of Natural History, has deep admiration for the late cosmologist Carl Sagan, and touts the impressive wonders of space, Neil deGrasse Tyson sure doesn't seem all that interested in turning to planetary discoveries to help save Earth. In fact, he seems outright determined to destroy the very planet he lives on.

When addressing a question during a recent appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher, Tyson was asked his thoughts regarding the possibility of droughts striking that are more disastrous than the ones in California. Tyson's response had nothing to do with space exploration or improving conditions on Earth as one might logically assume based on his background. His response? "You know what I want to happen? I think it's not about finding another planet. I think it's about being masters of geo-engineering." You can view his interview, which is in a video in the related story, here.

It's interesting that Mr. Let's-Explore-Space apparently doesn't see any need to do so, at least according to the first part of his response. Whatever happened to an article he authored for Natural History magazine that appeared on HaydenPlanetarium.org entitled "The Search for Planets"?

The dangers of geoengineering
He also mentions something else that is highly disturbing: becoming "masters" of geoengineering.

A Congressional Research Service report explains geoengineering as an "array of technologies that aim, through large-scale and deliberate modifications of the Earth's energy balance, to reduce temperatures and counteract anthropogenic climate change." Yes, this is what Tyson advocates. Such technologies primarily focus on carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM) methods that involve ocean fertilization, removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, and increasing the earth's reflectivity. We're talking about carbon dioxide extraction, aerosol injections, and space-based reflectors to get the planet back on track.

...

Is carbon dioxide really so awful?
Then there are thoughts that all this carbon dioxide in the atmosphere might be a good thing that is actually helping people rather than harming them. Of course, this begs the question of tampering with climate change in the first place; could it actually have its benefits?

Indeed, people living in the southern strip of the Sahara Desert would say yes. After droughts there in the 70s and 80s killed more than 100,000 people, the area is now experiencing increased rainfall and a "re-greening" that is linked to those bad words, "climate change." It's thought that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has led to this change, creating more plant growth and community-led farming efforts in the region.

Neil, are you listening? Geoengineering is not anything we need to be masters of!

Jennifer Lea Reynolds, Natural News 25 Comments [11/11/2015 4:03:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 114316

[Formatting in original]

SALT LAKE CITY — The LDS Church confirmed Thursday that children living with same-sex parents or guardians will not be allowed membership in the church until reaching "legal age" and the individual "disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage."

The new instructions are included in a revision to Handbook 1, the guide for stake presidents and bishops.

[...]

Handbook 1, number 6.7.2 has been updated as follows (addition is highlighted):

When a Disciplinary Council May Be Necessary

Serious Transgression

. . . It includes (but is not limited to) attempted murder, forcible rape, sexual abuse, spouse abuse, intentional serious physical injury of others, adultery, fornication, homosexual relations (especially sexual cohabitation), deliberate abandonment of family responsibilities, . . .


Handbook 1, number 6.7.3 has been updated as follows (addition is highlighted):

When a Disciplinary Council is Mandatory

Apostasy

As used here, apostasy refers to members who:

1. Repeatedly act in clear, open, and deliberate public opposition to the Church or its leaders.
2. Persist in teaching as Church doctrine information that is not Church doctrine after they have been corrected by their bishop or a higher authority.
3. Continue to follow the teachings of apostate sects (such as those that advocate plural marriage) after being corrected by their bishop or a higher authority.
4. Are in a same-gender marriage.
5. Formally join another church and advocate its teachings.

A new section in Handbook 1, 16.13 has been added as follows:

Children of a Parent Living in a Same-Gender Relationship

A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may not receive a name and a blessing.

A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may be baptized and confirmed, ordained, or recommended for missionary service only as follows:

A mission president or a stake president may request approval from the Office of the First Presidency to baptize and confirm, ordain, or recommend missionary service for a child of a parent who has lived or is living in a same-gender relationship when he is satisfied by personal interviews that both of the following requirements are met:

1. The child accepts and is committed to live the teachings and doctrine of the Church, and specifically disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage.
2. The child is of legal age and does not live with a parent who has lived or currently lives in a same-gender cohabitation relationship or marriage.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, KSL 23 Comments [11/11/2015 4:02:32 AM]
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