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Quote# 115626

A Texas mother is expressing outrage this week after her 7-year-old daughter returned from school with Henna dye on the backs of her hands, because of the body art's connection to the Hindu and Muslim religions.

For Seabrook resident Tammy Samour, this year's Christmas has been sullied by the presence of Henna art on her daughter Leah's hands, reports KHOU.

"We tried to get it off and it didn’t budge," Samour told the Texas news station.

"It's upsetting to go through Christmas with another religion's celebratory symbolism all over my daughter's hands," she added.

Leah's hands were decorated during a multicultural event staged at her school, Ed White Elementary in Houston, according to the report.


Tammy Samour, People 58 Comments [12/28/2015 5:09:00 AM]
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Submitted By: KittyKaboom

Quote# 115621

[On Donald Trump's call for a total ban on Muslim immigration to the United States:]

Two questions must be asked. Are such bans constitutional? And more importantly, are such bans biblical?

[...]

There is no constitutional right, of course, to immigrate to the United States. It is a privilege, not a right. And we the people have given to Congress authority to set parameters for immigration for our protection, our cultural unity, and our national security.

So while it may not be politically correct or politically feasible to implement Trump's proposed ban, it is not unconstitutional. It is a political and cultural question, not a constitutional one.

For those of us who are evangelicals, there is a second question, which is of greater importance than the first. We not only want to know if an immigration ban is constitutional, we want to know if it is biblical. Did God himself ever impose such an immigration ban?

The answer is yes. With the fledgling nation on the edge of the promised land, God instituted a permanent ban ("forever") on immigration into Israel from two nations, Ammon and Moab.

[...]

Ammonites and Edomites were not allowed to immigrate because of their historic animosity toward the people of God and their commitment to weaken them and defeat them. Where such conditions exist today, a similar ban on foreign immigration would have biblical precedent.

Now obviously exceptions could be made and were made on a limited basis. Ruth, for instance, was allowed to immigrate into Israel from Moab. Ruth rejected the ancient hostility of her people toward Israel and embraced its culture and its God. “Your people shall be my people, and your God my God” (Ruth 1:17). In other words, she happily assimilated in every way, included in religious matters, to her newly adopted nation.

She was not only welcomed, but found a place in the line of descent that led to the birth of the Savior of the world.

The bottom line: a ban on immigration from nations which have demonstrated abiding hostility toward the United States is both constitutionally permissible and biblically permissible.


Bryan Fischer, Barb Wire 24 Comments [12/28/2015 5:06:22 AM]
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Quote# 115617

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the "shocking images" displayed in a video recently seized by police, which shows Orthodox youths at a Jerusalem wedding dancing with guns and knives, stabbing a photo of Ali Dawabsheh, the toddler who was killed in the Duma firebomb attack that killed three members of the Dawabsheh family this past summer.

...

The clip, which aired on Channel 10 news Wednesday night, shows that amid classical wedding dancing, guests with ear locks and kippas, skullcaps, danced with guns and knives. One masked youth held up a firebomb. Another is seen stabbing a photo of the Dawabsheh toddler, Ali.

The video was shown on Channel 10 news Wednesday night.

According to the Channel 10 report, the wedding was of a couple “very well known in the radical right.” The couple’s friends who were dancing were described as being friends of the suspects in the Dawabsheh murders.

In the video one can see dozens of teens and young men singing a song in praise of revenge, while holding up guns and knives. According to the report, the IDF-issue rifles and licensed pistols were passed around at the reception from hand to hand, including to children.

Orthodox Israeli settlers, Haaretz 15 Comments [12/28/2015 5:02:33 AM]
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Quote# 115615

Only God knows the depth of wickedness that goes on behind the making of movies. Many movies are birthed in witchcraft ceremonies, séances, and are demonic sacrifices to Satan. The movies are offerings, leading the viewer to subconsciously participate in demonic sacrifices; in such movies as, THE GOLDEN COMPASS (which praises children being possessed by demons). HARRY POTTER is the granddaddy sinister movie series of all, leading children into witchcraft of all sorts, confusing them about God and THE TRUTH.

These are evil men, producing wicked films, and I mean “wicked” in the immoral Biblical sense. All of Stephen Hopkins TERMINATOR movies with Arnold Schwarzenegger curse in God's name. Schwarzenegger appears totally naked in many of his movies, including all of the TERMINATOR series. All of the writers are evil and Godless men and women, no doubt bound for the Lake of Fire. No one in Hollywood truly loves Jesus Christ, who curses in His name in movies and blasphemes the Bible. Hollywood curses in God's name as an ongoing attempt to corrupt society, undermine family values, and attack the God of the Bible to please Satan. The movies that make it the biggest are the ones that attack God the most, but do it subtly.

Movies like EPIC MOVIE, are deliberately made (in this case it is based upon the Chronicles of NARNIA) to deceive families into watching it. The movie trailer appears family friendly, but the actual movie uses the derogatory word “bitch” at least 100-times instead of NARNIA's “witch.” It is the worst movie ever produced, intentionally made to lure unsuspecting families by the family-oriented trailer. Hollywood are a bunch of scum!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 43 Comments [12/28/2015 5:02:18 AM]
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Quote# 115613

Does Ancient Muslim Wisdom Have Answers To Modern Western Problems?

Western civilization was not the only producer of wisdom. I stumbled upon some useful Islamic quotes, many of which are from Ali ibn Abi Talib, the leader of the Islamic caliphate from 656-661 AD and cousin of the Prophet.

[...]

Sex differences

"‘The good characteristics of women are the bad characteristics of men: pride, cowardice and stinginess. If a woman has pride she will not allow herself to be taken advantage of; if she is stingy she will guard her wealth and her spouse’s wealth; and if she is cowardly she will be cautious of everything that confronts her.’" (Iman Ali)

Obeying

"Obeying women is the ultimate ignorance.

[…]

Obeying desire corrupts the mind." (Iman Ali)

[...]

Sexual pleasure

"Beware of too much passion for women and being seduced by the sweet temptations of this world, for passion for women is trying and being seduced by worldly temptations is humiliating." (Iman Ali)

[...]

Virgins

"‘The archangel Gabriel descended to the Prophet (SAWA) and told him, ‘O Muhammad, verily your Lord extends salutations on you and says, ‘Verify the virgins from among your women are as fruits on a tree, which when they ripen must be plucked otherwise the sun rots them and the wind alters them. So when young women reach marriageable age, they have no other recourse apart from husbands, otherwise they will not be safe from corruption.’" (Iman al-Rida)

A suitable wife

"He who marries a woman solely for her beauty will not find anything he likes in her, he who marries her for her wealth will be deprived of it as soon as he marries her, so look to marry women of faith.

[…]

The beauty of a woman’s faith must be given priority over the beauty of her face." (The Prophet)

An evil woman

"‘Beware of the verdure growing in manure.’ When asked what verdure growing in manure was, he replied, ‘It is the beautiful woman that comes from an evil environment.’" (The Prophet)

Happy husband

"Woe unto the woman who angers her husband, and blessed is the woman whose husband is pleased with her.

[…]

If I was in a position to command anyone to prostrate in front of anyone else, I would command the woman to prostrate in front of her husband." (The Prophet)

Husband’s duty

"The right of a woman on her husband is that he feeds her, clothes her, and does not cause her to lose face [by insulting her or chiding her].

[…]

Verily the man who lifts a morsel of food to his wife’s mouth is well rewarded" (The Prophet)

A woman’s jihad

"The sacred war (jihad) of a woman is to be of excellent service to her husband." (Iman al-Kazim)

Marital mistreatment

"If a man has a wife who mistreats him, Allah does not accept her daily prayer, nor any other good deed she performs, even if she was to fast all her life, until and unless she relieves him and pleases him…and the husband will bear the same burden and punishment if he mistreats or oppresses his wife." (The Prophet)

Cursed woman

"Cursed! Cursed indeed is the woman who troubles and distresses her husband; and blessed! Blessed indeed is the woman who honours her husband, does not trouble him and obeys him in all matters." (Iman al-Sadiq)

Cursed man

"Every man who is controlled by his wife is indeed cursed." (Iman Ali)

Nobility

"Habituate yourself to performing noble deeds and tolerate the burdens of losses, and your self will be noble." (Iman Ali)

[...]

While many of us here do not agree with the sometimes violent spread of Islam to European lands, their views on the sexes and marriage fully account for the true nature of women that we’re all too aware of.

Islamists understand that a woman can become feral if not constrained by a strong patriarch in the home. When a culture fails to incorporate this understanding, the result is what we have in the modern West, of women who trade having a healthy family to become degenerates and sterile freakshows. Islam is not without its problems, but if their higher birth rates are of any indication, their gender strategies should be duplicated to some degree in the West.

Roosh Valizadeh, Return of Kings 27 Comments [12/27/2015 9:54:44 AM]
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Quote# 115611

Don't the Harps in Revelation 14:2 Authorize Instruments of Music in Worship? No. This is highly symbolic SECRET language to Christians who understood the pagan belief that earthly music and instruments were made of SPIRITUAL stuff. The revelation of God is to enable us to worship the SPIRIT God and to prevent us from worshipping what He created. However, secular men insist upon worshipping the works of other men's hands and speaking their "revelations" in song and sermon to other "prophets" rather than as messengers from God to the lost.

God in Christ is never silent: that is because no mankind has any ability to draw God closer or make believers any more spiritual. That would smack of sorcery as John warns. The Church is defined by Christ in a future sense in the prophets: that is why Peter specified the prophets and the prophecies made more perfect as the only thing that can cause the day star to arise in our heart. The evil day star is called Lucifer which Christ defined as a singing and harp playing prostitute in the garden of Eden.

Those promoting musical machines when Jesus comes to be our only Teacher never look beyond a few phrases or verses and always ignore the context. Take a look at Revelation 5 which only those with a need to know can read. The only clear significance of the ELDERS are those who usurped the throne of God by demanding a king like the nations: God knew that they wanted to worship like the nations. They had already been abandoned to the national (Babylonian) sacrificial system because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. The use of the Levite musicians under the king and commanders of the Army intended to typically prove their superiority to God. Perhaps they can throw down their crowns.


Kenneth Sublett, piney 17 Comments [12/27/2015 5:54:49 AM]
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Quote# 115610

[On ISIS]

I'm not at all a fan,but the is just chopped off a few heads,took down the temple of baal(a demon),killed yazidis (who claim to worship satan,no joke), force a smoke ban and decency code.now what did the zionist/freemasonic alliance do to innocent nations.911 false flag.dropped depleted uranium on Afghanistan Iraq and others.opened torture camps eg Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib.perpetuated sectarian violence by putting guns in the hands of the violent among minorities.ensuring a stalemate so that maximal bloodshed results.they directly killed over 3 million in the war against terror (Islam) and caused babies to be born deformed due to the uranium contamination.we are on par with the holocaust,just that we don't get sympathy-we have to apologise and prove we secular.

Tabib Asnan, Al Jazeera English 19 Comments [12/27/2015 5:54:29 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 115609

(An Air Force Officer that was a lesbian and gay rights activist was killed in Afghanistan. New York Times called it "a Tragic End to a Life Spent Seeking Dignity")

Is it really “dignity” when you have to use the power of the government to force people to pretend that they respect you? I had more respect for homosexuals when they had to live in the closet.

JoeDetweiler , Free Republic  26 Comments [12/27/2015 5:54:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 115601

The leader of a right-wing Jewish group has called for a ban on Christmas in Israel and the expulsion of Christians, describing followers of the religion as "blood-sucking vampires".

Benzi Gopstein - leader of the group Lahava, or Flame in Hebrew - wrote last week on the ultra-Orthodox Kooker website that "impure" Christians must leave the region.

"Christmas has no place in the Holy Land," Gopstein was quoted in the Israeli press as saying. "Missionary work must not be given a foothold. Let's throw the vampires out of our land before they drink our blood again."

In August, Gopstein called for the burning down of Christian churches in Israel.

Benzi Gopstein, Al Jazeera 22 Comments [12/27/2015 5:47:58 AM]
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Quote# 115591

What evolutionists look like trying to explain evolutionism.



Eric Hovind: All joking aside, evolutionist believe that nonliving material can spontaneously organize itself into a living cell that is much more complex than a snowman. If you don't think three round balls of snow could stack together but yet you believe a cell more complex than the Space Shuttle could spontaneously generate, you are the real jokester.

Eric Hovind, Eric Hovind's Facebook page 30 Comments [12/27/2015 5:42:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 115590

It makes me so angry that Pastor Kent Hovind has been imprisoned for 10-years for not taking a state license in Florida. One of my favorite authors, Fritz Springmeier said, “When freedom fails, good men go to jail.” If pastor Kent Hovind had bowed to the state government (Nebuchadnezzar's image), then he wouldn't have had to pay any taxes. But because he refused a $50 license the state demanded taxes on his hundreds-of-thousands of dollars in buildings and ministry assets. So they convicted him and the rotten judge said he was a threat to the community for telling the truth about unconstitutional taxation.

Mr. Hovind revoked his Social Security number and fought the system as a man of God. The only reason why the government is getting away with this tyranny is because nearly all Christians have sold-out. I mean Christians have just laid down and totally submitted to the government. They don't care about what really happened on 911, because it wasn't there family member jumping from the 105th floor to escape the inferno.

They smashed Brother Lester Roloff in Corpus Christi like they did Brother Kent Hovind, closing down the Roloff homes and forcing hundreds of boys and girls out onto the streets. Texas didn't care if those kids died on the streets, just so long as Brother Roloff didn't teach them the Word of God. Brother Roloff refused to take a state license because it forbad the Christian home from setting a dress code, and from teaching the children that a divine deity was angry with them over sin. Brother Hovind did the right thing to fight the state. It's all the sell-out preachers across America who are 501c3 licensed who are dooming America to Communism and tyranny which parallels the brutal regimes of Stalin and Hitler.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 24 Comments [12/27/2015 5:42:38 AM]
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Quote# 115589

stupid faggots who turn down a hot blonde for themselves. i just thought of an absolutily brilliant idea. why dont we help preserve the white race by importing lonely swedish women over here in america and marry them instead of letting these hot women have to deal with useless faggots. In the mean time i will be searching for some of these women on the internet who desperately wanna leave fag land. you all should too.

Edit:

OH my god i went to a swedish singles website and it was loaded with nothing but a bunch of muslims and asian women and barely any swedish women who were between the ages of 18 and 20.

see im trying to get a woman thats about 10 years younger than me since im 31.

seems like sweden is in a serious crisis when you go to swedish singles website and theres barely any swedish women to be found.

Clinton Smythers, Daily Stormer 34 Comments [12/27/2015 5:42:35 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 115585

1. Of course for violent / forced rape father's rights are terminated (going by layman's terms of forced / violent - I know that by definition, rape is forced)
2. If the lady is found to have raped the man, her rights should be terminated
3. If it is not so clear cut (statutory rape of a 17yr old for example) then it needs to be taken on a case by case basis
4. If it is (non violent) date rape or rape of a drunk (but not comatose) woman, there is nothing that would automatically make me assume the father is not fit to be a daddy (although the cards would be stacked against him, and he would need to prove himself fit)

bengangmo, The Straight Dope 11 Comments [12/27/2015 5:38:57 AM]
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Quote# 115582

"Slavery which is illegal per the Constitution."

So is abortion. But, the point is that it was not always legal, and just as many people could not see any problem with it because it was legal, so, too, can you not see the atrocity of abortion because it is legal.

"But, let's play-pretend you actually have an analogy"

Thanks for the concession! It's not my analogy - it was proposed long ago.

"you then run into the problem that a fetus has no personhood"

Prove it! Thus far, no one has been able to scientifically prove that there are certain human beings who are not persons. The fact that the law does not grant personhood to the preborn is not a good argument, as the law also did not grant personhood to black people or Jews. Since you cannot scientifically prove that the preborn human (or any human) is not a person, we should always err on the side of caution, lest we end up with a holocaust of 60 million.

"However you wish to argue that I may not have an abortion because of a potential that doesn't exist."

Calling a human life a "potential" is tremendously morally repugnant. It would mean that you were only a potential once - that you somehow existed but only as a potential. How hypocritical and arrogant.

"I certainly don't rely on fallacious analogies to "prove" a point."

Fallacious arguments are all your side has. And those arguments are dropping like flies.

"No, it does not. You made no argument, just a bunch of rambling that went no where."

I gave you three arguments each with two premises and a conclusion, and you call them "ramblings" just because you do not understand them?

"Yet this is what you are attempting to argue."

I'm not arguing anything about buns or ovens, just that if Chuck's argument that "legal makes moral" were true, then we would still have slavery. Slavery was once legal, but never moral.

"I make it a rule not to watch or read propaganda."

That's a "yes, I know it is wrong, but cannot give up my ideology" from you!

How do you know it is propaganda if you don't watch it?!? Also, you must read your own posts, and they are all propaganda. I think that the reason you do not have the courage to watch an abortion video is that you are afraid that your ideology will come face-to-face with its victims. In which case, you will be forced to change your ideology or deny its victims - and neither one is what your feelings will allow.

"Your ignorance about half of the human race is pathetic."

Somebwody got her feewings hurt. :-) What is really pathetic is that the over half of all abortions are done on the half of the human race that you claim to care about.


WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 11 Comments [12/27/2015 5:38:32 AM]
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Quote# 115581

Christopher Hitchens needed alcohol to sustain him in his barren view of life. He spent his life attacking religion because he had nothing to defend! He needed religion because without it he would have been lost! It was his main source of inspiration: the very fact that he never expressed doubt or fear about his convictions demonstrates that atheism was his religion. He worshipped his own opinion as if he were an infallible authority. Intellectual pride was the fatal flaw at the root of his scheme of things because unwillingness to admit we may be wrong is a sign of weakness not strength. It demonstrates that we are unreasonable and incapable of intellectual development. As you point out "The atheists or non-religious mostly remain where they are." They are trapped in the hole they have dug for themselves. 

And a reputation based on notoriety is not worth having. It makes money at the expense of moral integrity. To attack Mother Teresa and Pope Francis who have done far more to help poor people than he ever did is evidence of spiritual decadence. They will be remembered long after he is forgotten because he has left nothing but cynicism and despair. By their fruits you shall know them...



tonyrey, Catholic answer forum  20 Comments [12/27/2015 5:38:24 AM]
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Quote# 115577

I've been looking into polls. wow.what crap we are being fed. If you have the time and stomach you could look into either the Monmouth or Quinnipiac polls in detail. The ABC poll looks honest in contrast UNTIL it gets to Hillary v Trump. At that point you are suppose to suspend your belief system and just bite the hook.
Rubio is a MSM fool. They are scared to death of Cruz and even more so of Trump. They pray every night to a God they do not believe in that they do not have to face The Donald. He gives them the finger and laughs as they foam at the mouth and their heads explode.

FarOutlier, the american mirror 17 Comments [12/27/2015 5:04:00 AM]
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Quote# 115576

Secularism and Christianity are distinct, immutable religions. Secularism believes in the fundamental goodness of man (human nature has a bent toward good). But historic Christianity is much more pessimistic about human nature, with its doctrine of original sin teaching that human reasoning is deeply flawed, inclined to evil, imperfect in knowledge, and consumed by an inborn tendency to sin. Secularism has taken hostage America's Judeo Christian heritage and Biblical-based culture over the last century.

Ok, so now what? As I've previously written, "Fate is not what led Germany to their Holocaust from 1933-1945, but the inevitable consequence of failing to confront pagan ideology in the public square." As Stanton Evans writes, 'When religious value is denied in the realm of spirit, but reasserted in the secular order, dominion of every facet of life converges in a single center; the political regime becomes both the church and state and claims authority over faith and conscience.'"

Where Has Secularism Led?

- 55 million babies murdered in their mother's womb

- Same-sex marriage imposed by judicial tyranny

- The Constitution shredded by secularist elites - Red ink as far as the eye can see - The exaltation and normalization of Homosexuality

- The Pledge of Allegiance forbidden - The moral collapse of the Boy Scouts of America - Christmas carols banned - The Ten Commandments stripped from public schools and federal buildings - America is drenched with porn

[...]

The refusal by a nation to be instructed and led by God brings one estrangement from Him, "and that estrangement is an estrangement from life that must be corrected at once" if disaster is to be avoided. As long as secularists usurp ultimate rule of America, "there is impotence, unrighteousness and dependence upon the forces which would destroy us. It is only when we come to the end of ourselves and acknowledge God's right to rule our lives that we can experience the divine empowerment for righteousness."

"The Red Sea looked at this and ran away. The Jordan River turned back" (Psalm 114:3) points to the good news. America is coming to a glorious day when, by a stupendous miracle, the God of Heaven and Earth will demonstrate His ability to remove every obstacle in the way of a spiritual resurrection, a restoring of America to her Judeo-Christian heritage by reestablishing a Biblical-based culture.

God will subdue every enemy; we simply must find a Gideon or Rahab willing to stand.

David Lane, Charisma News 20 Comments [12/27/2015 5:03:40 AM]
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Quote# 115573

Suddenly the singer yelled in the microphone, "Jesus is coming - He is going to crack the skies - get ready!" The song was entitled, "Crack The Skies." Suddenly smoke was billowing out of smoke machines, the pounding beat was turned up to a frenzied pitch, eerie lights began flashing, the musicians stood like phantoms rising from a murky swamp. It was ghostly, weird, strange - and the crowd went wild - they seemed to love it. At the same festival, a wild spiked hair group had entertained - with painted faces, prancing about like homosexual peacocks.

At first, I couldn't believe what I was seeing on stage. I said out loud, "This can't be happening at a Christian festival - they can't do this to my Jesus! These people can't be this blind - the leaders of this youth ministry can't be so undiscerning! Oh God - what has happened to your church that its leaders, its people, can't see the evil of this abomination?"

Suddenly I was on the ground, on my back, weeping and sobbing, and groaning in the Spirit. I sat up and took another look at the stage. I was horrified by what I saw in the Spirit. I saw demonic images rising from that stage! I heard Satan laughing! Laughing at all the blind parents - the blind shepherds - the blind youth - the backslidden church! It was an overt manifestation of Satan - worse than anything I've ever seen on the streets of New York.

I stood to my feet, literally shaking with the fear of God - consumed with a sense of His holy wrath against such wickedness. I rushed into the crowd crying at the top of my voice - Ichabod! (The glory of the Lord has departed!) Ichabod! I ran through the crowd, pushing aside chairs, weeping, shouting at the top of my voice, "Ichabod - this is satanic! Stop! God is grieved!" I was mostly ignored and I think most thought I was a crazy lunatic. I doubt anybody knew who I was - the musicians could not hear me, and the crowd was too tight to allow me near the stage. I wanted to get to a microphone and cry like an Elijah - "This is vomit on the table of the Lord! Who are your teachers, that you could be so blind, so worldly, so deceived!? What kind of blasphemy is this?"

I will not shut up on this matter! I will not be silent while multitudes of our Christian youth are being deceived by smooth-talking wolves in sheep's clothing! True love demands that the truth be told.

David Wilkerson, Driven To Darkness 30 Comments [12/27/2015 5:03:00 AM]
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Submitted By: undie not fundie

Quote# 115572

ATHENS, Greece — A leading Greek bishop has blamed the “Zionist monster” for new legislation that would give same-sex couples in Greece expanded civil rights.

Bishop Seraphim of Piraeus said the cohabitation bill is a result of the “constant war against the true faith” being waged “by the international Zionist monster,” which he said controls the Greek government.

In a statement on the website of the Metropolis of Piraeus, the bishop also threatened to sever relations with any Greek lawmaker who supports the bill when it comes to a vote on Tuesday, saying it subverts human sexuality and is destroying the traditional family unit.

The bishop has a long history of making anti-Semitic comments. In 2010, he told a Greek TV station that Jews had orchestrated the Holocaust and were behind Greece’s financial crisis. He later clarified that these were his personal opinions and did not represent the Church of Greece.

Under the bill, Greek same-sex couples who sign a cohabitation agreement would receive the same favorable tax status as married heterosexual couples as well as increased inheritance rights.

Bishop Seraphim of Piraeus, Jerusalem Post 23 Comments [12/26/2015 8:28:36 PM]
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Quote# 115571

(Submitter's note: SPOILER ALERT!)

Why Star Wars: The Force Awakens Is A Social Justice Propaganda Film

Spread my warning across the galaxy, Padawans.

The Force Awakens is spectacularly replete with the handiwork of the avowed Social Justice Warrior JJ Abrams. So where can I possibly start in my criticisms? From the casting, which puts minorities and women incessantly and ridiculously in your face to make a political point (not tell a story), to the laziest of all space battles, the problems with the Episode 7 are more than numerous.

Let’s make no mistake: Abrams is a capable filmmaker, when he wants to be. Parts with General Hux, especially his speech and the destruction of the Hosnian system, are glorious. The visuals, not just those with CGI, are stunning. Abrams’ mission, though, is to distract viewers with impressive scenes and some chunks of capably written dialogue so as to implant his take on “girl power” and safe spaces for non-whites.

The Mary Sue of all Mary Sues

Is there anything she can’t do after reading a third wave feminist tract?
The female Rey, who it is heavily implied is Luke’s daughter, is the most underdeveloped character yet in over 14 hours of Star Wars films. Her story arc is practically-speaking non-existent and only the veneer of her sadness about her family leaving her on Jakku is painted over it. Whereas with other major Force-wielders in the series their abilities have previously developed or are developed over years, Rey seemingly does it in less than 12 seconds, rather than parsecs. Her whole trajectory in the film reeks of “god mode”, which for non-gamers like myself refers to the cheat codes that make a game character invincible.

Big question: did she fart in the wind on Jakku and the blowback from the desert winds grew her Force powers to monolithic proportions? That’s the only possible explanation.

In the case of Anakin Skywalker in the prequels, by contrast, we learn that he is the only human pilot to engage in pod racing. His mechanical know-how has been honed over some years, culminating in his construction of both his own pad racer and the droid C-3PO. And when he destroys the droid control ship above Naboo, it is largely as a result of his good fortune, not just long-acquired skill. A decade later and with continuous training, he additionally fails to best Count Dooku on Geonosis.

Two hours into the first film, with no training, Rey beats Kylo Ren. Four hours into the original trilogy, and with the training of Ben Kenobi and Yoda, Luke loses his right hand. Go girls!
Cast your mind back to the original trilogy, too. Aside from a little kid’s play with his father’s lightsaber at Ben Kenobi’s hermit pad and onboard the Millennium Falcon, Luke does not wield the weapon at all in A New Hope, let alone in combat against the likes of a Vader. He does destroy the Death Star as a very novice X-wing pilot, but this is after years of him taking out his stuck-on-bloody-Tatooine frustrations on womp rats in his T-16. Moreover, Luke would have been burnt space toast without the intervention of Han Solo and the Falcon. Oh, and in The Empire Strikes Back, after the tutelage of Yoda, he still gets his hand cleaved off by Vader.

So I am meant to believe that Rey could savage and nearly kill her presumed cousin Kylo Ren, whether he is injured or not? Ren is not yet a Vader in his powers. That much is clear. But this is the man who helped slaughter, as a boy or teenager, basically all of the talented pupils of Luke Skywalker. Luke then disappears and Kylo Ren is given more or less free rein, only to be wounded once by Chewbacca’s crossbow, once by apparently non-Force-sensitive Finn (“This is for slavery, whitey!”) and three times by Rey (“Fuck the patriarchy!”). Fuck off—that’s a plot fueled by meth.

To boot, Rey’s piloting and mechanical skills, to the point of knowing everything, is mind-boggingly “get more women in STEM” in its motivations. When she starts teaching Han Solo about the Falcon, things become breathtakingly contrived. It’s as if Abrams was paid by a female science scholarship foundation to drum up some public service announcements via film.

The plot is IQ-damagingly dumb

They put twenty times more effort into the parade than organizing the base defenses. And they didn’t learn from either the first or second Death Star debacles. Or Abrams and his writing team were too busy making Rey a goddess.
I take no issue with some of the artistic license Abrams uses in The Force Awakens. How the First Order managed to create a sun-sucking super weapon on a preexisting ice planet can be explained one day by some talented PhD graduate from the University of Coruscant. So, too, can the appearance of the Starkiller’s death beams and the destruction of the Hosnian system in the sky above far removed Takodana.

What matters, though, is the plot. Scientific ambiguities and inaccuracies can be tolerated if the story functions. But it’s entirely lacking here. For a start, the film borrows from or plain copies so many elements of A New Hope that I lost count. A non-exhaustive list would include a girl being held captive at the flagship facility of a military junta, a space battle to prevent the noble guerrillas’ base from being obliterated, and the death of an older character just as the younger infiltrators are about to leave for home. For the sake of free words, I cannot mention them all.

Beyond just the formulaic plot, here are a few of the frankly stupid elements of the story:

Finn just happens to be an ex-sanitation worked at Starkiller Base, in a galaxy where the First Order forces are now so numerous and powerful that the New Republic has to use the Resistance as a weak proxy to fight it. So he knows where to find the oscillator, which will destabilize and then obliterate the planet if destroyed. Makes perfect sense!
Both in its size and complexity, Starkiller Base makes the two Death Stars look like plasticine renderings. Yet there is no fleet to protect it? And a paucity of very ineffective turbolaser batteries and TIE fighter squadrons? A Resistance member at their headquarters light years away mentions them losing half their X-wings during the battle, as if that was so hard when they launched about, um, three and a half of them.
The amazingly overblown female character Captain Phasma is held at gunpoint and forced to lower Starkiller Base’s shields. These shields can be lowered so easily and without the immediate knowledge of General Hux or someone else? Oh, please, spare me.
Han Solo exits hyperspace no more than a few hundred metres from the surface of the Starkiller planet. And he announces it with “Now!” Hooray! Base infiltrated with common sense!
Finn is likeable but nevertheless a glorified white knight. Trained from just after birth to be a fighting machine, he does nothing relative to Rey and devotes the whole film to trying to protect her.

Tick the boxes with plenty of female and non-white characters

Game of Thrones’ Jessica Henwick was a cast a female X-wing pilot. Again, cast for her race and gender.
You can sniff out Abrams’ leanings from the start. As First Order troopships prepare to land to take out a village on Jakku, the first villager who pulls out a a blaster in defense is a woman. And it is some sort of big, mounted-looking one! This girl power is really paralleled in our world, where millions of young Western girls are so keen to protect their village or country that they won’t even join up, as their male contemporaries are forced to, in places like Finland and South Korea during peacetime. Or make the slightest squeak about the double standard. Well done, JJ.

Captain Phasma is given command of the First Order’s elite stormtroopers but she has the same biology as in our world, where no woman has ever passed the Marine Corps’ Infantry Officer Course. Another female stormtrooper reports to Ren about the failed attempt to locate Rey. And, after years of pretty much male-only recruitment, the New Republic’s affirmative action policies have been copied by the First Order, with large numbers of female military panel operators, technicians and officers.

The same goes for the racial choices. Insert a token female Asian and black male pilot. Black and Asian pilots were actually first done long ago (in Return of the Jedi) but JJ needs more, more, more! All while the plot suffers. Funny how an overwhelmingly male military combat force in a film is considered “unrealistic” when it is almost a carbon copy of our own reality in 2015.

Do not watch this film (at least by paying)

Pretty much sums it up.
Somebody has to watch it and for ROK that person is me. Our proprietor Roosh has refused to and all power to him and anyone else who has abstained. It helps when a limited few of us view it, to pick it apart piece by piece. An understanding of how entertainment is being used to propagandise acceptable social narratives is important.

It’s laughable how critics can butcher the revelation in the prequels that the Force is just the interaction of symbiotic organisms called midi-chlorians and other living things but laud The Force Awakens as a piece of sophisticated, “progressive” filmmaking. Some outlets have even resorted to naming and implicitly shaming critics who disliked this new addition. For a good parody of the pro-SJW obsessions of The Force Awakens, see Steven Crowder’s recent takedown.

For the time being, when it comes to deciding whether to see this film, take evasive action. It’s a trap.



David Garrett, Return of Kings 44 Comments [12/26/2015 8:28:21 PM]
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Evolution cannot explain where mankind's sin-nature entered the alleged evolutionary process. Evolutionists teach that men and animals evolved from the same biological life source. If this were true, then why don't animals have sin natures? Why don't animals have a moral conscious? Why don't animals built alters and worship in churches? All people of every nation throughout history have sought God. Even the Wiccan witches have hundreds of pagan gods which they worship. History records primitive cultures sacrificing their children to alligators in worship of their pagan gods. The FACT that mankind by nature NEEDS a supreme power over him is proof that there is a GOD. Where did mankind develop this desperate need for a supreme power to rule over him? How can the evolutionists reconcile man's sinful nature and need for God with evolution? It's clear that evolution cannot this phenomena.

Evolution, even if it were true, does not explain where man's ability to commit evil. How could a simple one-cell living organism "evolve" into an intelligent human being who commits horrible acts of evil? The Bible tells us that sin entered into the world through the sin of Adam... "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" (Romans 5:12). Now that makes a lot more sense to me than the bogus theory of evolution which offers NO EXPLANATION for man's wickedness. The Bible addresses man's sinfulness and remedy in Christ Jesus. The unsaved world prefers to ignore the reality of sin; yet all their "experts" cannot explain why people do what they do. The Word of God plainly gives us the answer; but the world rejects it because of their love for sin (John 3:20). When John Wayne Gacy was executed (15-years after sodomizing and murdering 33 young boys in Illinois), scientists dissected his brain to search for abnormalities. They found a normal brain. If they had even a basic understanding of the Bible, they would have known that the problem was in his heart... "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Mankind is inherently evil and rotten to the core.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 22 Comments [12/26/2015 8:28:05 PM]
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11 Timothy 2:9 commands the woman to dress in modest apparel. I have personally seen that in a large percentage of churches, the long tongued, rebellious, bobbed-haired, preacher-hating, pants-wearing, liberal-minded women have determined the standard of dress for the church. The cowardly preacher is afraid to cross this group. He knows if he does, these loud-mouthed women will take their weak husbands and go to another church. Sadly, most woman pull their hair, grit their teeth, and even yell back when the preacher deals with modest dress. Some will even get mad just reading this article. I say to you, SHUT UP!

In conclusion, I wish to defend the women of our churches for one reason. The fact that women are taking the leadership in our churches is the result of sorry men that will not get involved and do their part. At least some woman are willing to do something! So, you good-for-nothing, hen-pecked men that have been laughing your way through this article, you need to get off your lazy back-side and do something for God. Your wife runs the home because you are too sorry to run it yourself Lady, when your sorry husband dies, please marry a man next time.

Phil Kidd, Jesus is Savior 37 Comments [12/26/2015 11:22:21 AM]
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Quote# 115564

Extremist right-wing activist Theodore Shoebat dedicated his most recent video to railing against the evils of Hinduism, declaring that if he was a dictator, he would invade India, destroy all Hindu temples and force everyone to convert to Christianity.

After complaining, without a hint of irony, that he regularly gets compared to ISIS for his beliefs, Shoebat proclaimed that he would not hesitate to invade India and force all Hindus to convert to Christianity while also outlawing the practice of yoga in America.

"You need to Christianize the land," he stated. "We need to destroy these false religions, end of story. Hinduism is an evil, demonic, anti-Christ religion. It needs to be uprooted from the earth and it has no place in the world."

Theodore Shoebat, Right Wing Watch 50 Comments [12/26/2015 6:26:56 AM]
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Quote# 115563

Oh yes, now Valri is quoting George Carlin, when she cannot quote a medical or biological textbook that shows that life begins at some magical point during the pregnancy that miraculously occurs 5 minutes after the abortion takes place, regardless of when it is! (especially if there is a prom dress involved) :-)

Haha – Yes, Carlin shows the bankruptcy of your position: “If conservatives don’t vote for massive welfare, liberals get to knock off 1.2 million babies in the womb every year!” I love it – thank you for confirming what we already know about you – you hate the children of the poor! :-)

You should try this one that pro-aborts are using now: “If you don’t personally adopt every unwanted child from a woman going into an abortion clinic, we get to keep up the massive baby sacrifice – yipee!” Yes, that is really a talking point now.


WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 15 Comments [12/26/2015 6:26:44 AM]
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Quote# 115560

1. Sometimes we see arguments that the total amount of suffering in the Jewish Holocaust was greater than in the Abortion Holocaust, because many of the babies killed in the latter are not sentient nor can feel much pain. While this is a true observation, what these arguments miss is that while Jews suffered more for a longer period of time, they also enjoyed life more for a longer period of time. Babies killed in the Abortion Holocaust do not even get to see the light of day. So, this observation offsets the very poor argument from total suffering, especially when one considers the number difference of the victims. And it opens the proponent of the argument up to the strange logic that it is somehow more moral to play "catch" with Jewish babies on a Nazi bayonette than to gas older Jewish adults.

2. The argument fails in a second similar way: when a person dies in their 80's, we are sad, of course, but we know she lived a long life. In his 40's, well, that is sad too, because he is in his prime, but at least he made it to adulthood and got to experience a family and kids and career and all. In her 20's, well just starting out, but at least she made it to adulthood anyway. Teens? Getting pretty sad, there, but still had some life. At 5? Tragic. At 6 months? Incomprehensible. In the womb? Choice. Feelings. Selfishness. Orgasm. Prom dress. The "logic" for killing the most vulnerable of all. Unbelievable. The most dependent and most vulnerable of us all - killed off at nearly 3000 per day in America alone. What monsters we are to allow this.

3. Finally, don't forget the biggest hypocrisy of all with the abortion "rights" crowd: it is blatantly, cowardly, and repugnantly hypocritical for those who have been granted the right to access the light at the end of the birth canal to consequently turn around and deny that very same basic human right to certain others because the former are bigger and more powerful than the latter. It is a lethal form of location discrimination by the alleged "equality" crowd.

“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” - Ronald Reagan

WorldGoneCrazy, Live Action News 16 Comments [12/26/2015 6:26:13 AM]
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