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Quote# 106345

[Full text is interesting, but long. This is just the conclusion]

Conclusion

The possibility exists that living dinosaurs never existed. "Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth” (Mark 9:23).
The dinosaur industry should be investigated and questions need to be asked. I am unaware of any evidence or reason for absolutely believing dinosaurs ever were alive on earth. The possibility exists that the concept of prehistoric living dinosaurs has been a fabrication of nineteenth and twentieth century people possibly pursuing an evolutionary and anti-Bible and anti-Christian agenda.

The past existence of living dinosaurs has not yet been proven. Questioning what is being told instead is a better choice rather than blindly believing the dinosaur story. Issues should be carefully considered for the sake of good science. "O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called” (1 Timothy 6:20).

The choice between believing the word of man, the evolutionists, or the word of God, the Bible, is a matter of faith.

Arthur Christian, Love for Life 47 Comments [2/12/2015 4:03:55 AM]
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Quote# 106343

[In response to a sociological study on Asian-Jewish marriages]

Of course many of these Jewish men are self-haters and have anti-semitic attitudes toward Jewish women. I don't care about these losers but I do care when they want to pretend to have Jewish families. THEY DON'T! This article mentions that many of these couples claim to be raising their children "Jewish" but that couldn't be further from the truth. These children are not Jews. You need a Jewish mother to be Jewish. These children are Asian gentiles with self-hating Jewish fathers who hate Jewish women. These couples should never be welcomed into the Jewish community.

anti-intermarriage, The Jewish Week 24 Comments [2/12/2015 4:02:41 AM]
Fundie Index: 13

Quote# 106342

So what does "science" suggest? Aliens did it.

Aliens who had to come into existence by the very Darwinistic processes for which there is absolutely no evidence on earth.

The missing link is on Mars!

Aaron, BaptistBoard 31 Comments [2/12/2015 4:02:09 AM]
Fundie Index: 13
Submitted By: PT

Quote# 106334

A Saudi Arabian historian trying to justify the nation's ban on female drivers says women who drive in other countries such as the United States don't care if they're raped and that sexual violence "is no big deal to them."

Saleh al-Saadoon claimed in a recent TV interview that women can be raped when a car breaks down, but unlike other countries, Saudi Arabia protects its women from that risk by not allowing them to drive in the first place, according to a translation posted online by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

"They don't care if they are raped on the roadside, but we do," al-Saadoon said on Saudi Rotana Khalijiyya TV.

“Hold on. Who told you they don’t care about getting raped on the roadside?” asked the host, a woman who is not named in the transcript.

“It’s no big deal for them beyond the damage to their morale,” al-Saadoon replied. “In our case, however, the problem is of a social and religious nature.”

Saleh al-Saadoon, Huffington Post 41 Comments [2/12/2015 3:59:17 AM]
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Quote# 106332

Maori religion is being IMPOSED upon little kids and people everywhere throughout NZ. They have special “blessings” for nearly every event, those blessings actually bring a curse (if one read the Bible.)
I do not propose we do as they did in the Old Testament and go about smashing down their carvings and idols and outlawing their religion – Jesus will do that when He returns. (I instead preach the Gospel to all.)

sojourner, mandm.org 29 Comments [2/12/2015 3:58:59 AM]
Fundie Index: 14
Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 106331

There's a song I heard a few weeks ago on a radio station popular w/ 'alternative', ie, liberal/artsy college aged kids & I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

It was called 'Take Me To Church' by some guy named 'Hozier' & it was super blasphemous. I remember thinking, even in my 'rebellious' & lost college years how these type of lyrics would have made me feel just wrong & now that feeling was amplified by 1000 since coming to know the Lord.

I was stunned to see it appearing on the awards show last nite featuring Annie Lennox; she did a song like 'Cast a spell on me' w/ that artist Hozier & she used a 'church' voice that I don't ever remember her using before when I listened to her music in the 80's; she had a demonic look in her eyes & the ending of the song was very creepy; BTW, if you watch this, watch it w/out children nearby; it was just odd & super creepy.

We've GOT to be so close to the end; the audience was standing & applauding & just mesmerized by their performance. It made me a bit queasy & I just texted DH about it.

XMaryX, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [2/12/2015 3:58:52 AM]
Fundie Index: 14
Submitted By: Cindy

Quote# 106328

In response to “Charles Darwin Day” in Delaware, Ken Ham, CEO of Answers in Genesis, has declared Darwin Was Wrong Day. Ken responded with the following:

Secularists are becoming increasingly aggressive and intolerant in promoting their anti-God philosophy. Evolutionary ideas provide the foundation for this worldview because they seemingly allow mankind the ability to explain the existence of life and the universe without God. As Christians, we need to be bold in proclaiming the truth of God’s Word to a hurting (groaning, Romans 8:22) world. This year, on February 12, instead of celebrating Darwin’s anti-God religion, we can take this opportunity to show the world that Darwin’s ideas about our supposed evolutionary origins were wrong, and that God’s Word is true, from the very beginning. Let’s make February 12 Darwin Was Wrong Day and point people to the truth of God’s Word.

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 29 Comments [2/12/2015 3:58:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 106325

CM asks if we can put together a rating system for Christian books. I think this is a good idea, although I think it bears some discussion on the best way to do that.

My thought is something similar to the SJW review of games system might be useful, with zero being the perfect score of containing nothing that would be objectionable to the Christian AND containing genuine and explicit Christian elements. There is a difference, after all, as Misty of Chincoteague is entirely unobjectionable, but it has no Christian content per se.

Let's consider some possible point factors, beginning with those that would likely be more or less acceptable to most Christian parents, but are potentially indicative of religious or ideological problems:
contains no genuine and explicit Christian element +1
exhibits unconventional Christian theology +1
characters demonstrate disrespect for peers or parents +1
an animal or major character dies +1
contains suggestions of physical violence +1

Then there are the elements that will be objectionable to the more conservative families:
contains squishy Disney-style "moral" messages +2
contains direct descriptions of physical violence +2
features indirect sexual themes +2
contains egregious or saintly minority characters +2
features aggressively "pro-science" themes +2
contains euphemistic swearing +2

Followed by those elements to which most parents will not want to expose their children:
contains openly atheist characters +3
contains detailed and gleeful portrayals of physical violence +3
features PG-13 sex scenes +3
advocates left-liberal political or ideological positions +3
contains light and occasional swearing +3
Features emotionally devastating scene +3

And then the completely unacceptable:
contains openly atheist or anti-theist messages +5
mocks Christianity +5
sadistic horror and physical violence +5
features pornographic sex scenes or romanticizes adultery +5
features homosexual and other sexually deviant characters +5
contains a considerable quantity of vulgarities and obscenities +5

Now, it is important to keep in mind that a novel can contain absolutely every element here and still be a Christian novel. What makes a novel Christian or not depends upon its intrinsic recognition that Jesus Christ (or some fictional facsimile therein), is the Lord and Savior of Mankind.

A Throne of Bones scores a lot of points, Book Two will score even more. But they are not books for children; I haven't let my own children read them. Every parent has to draw their own line, but it would certainly be useful to have a large database at Castalia House where books could be rated. For example, The Lord of the Rings would rate about a 5 of 65. A Throne of Bones would rate 30. A Game of Thrones would rate 55. I think anything over 15 should be considered unacceptable to most parents.

There is considerable room for improving the system, and I would welcome suggestions as well as the rating of various books.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 53 Comments [2/12/2015 3:51:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 11
Submitted By: Yama the Space Fish

Quote# 106319

It's so faulty to think that you commit a sin and don't receive immediate punishment and that means all is okay. If God set the world up for immediate retribution, how hard would it be to find believers? Not very. To have true believers of faith, you can't have the entire puzzle already laid out. By the way, who says that something in that meat sandwich won't have some terrible effect thirty years later? Remember, viruses can have 40 year incubation periods. God works in mysterious ways.

ROBERT FLEISHER, Chabad.org 36 Comments [2/11/2015 4:31:24 AM]
Fundie Index: 18

Quote# 106316

Your obvious racism and Biblical ignorance is very sad. You attack others for judging while delivering harsh judgment yourself. Talk about blind hypocrisy! Are you not aware that Obama supports the murder of babies in the womb and marriage rights for that would be happily live in Sodom? Are there no moral laws in your Bible except those commanding us to help the poor?

People not wanting government to steal from one household to give to another has absolutely nothing to do with loving or hating the poor. Charity is a personal choice and responsibility, not something God demanded be forced by government. There is not one Scripture where Jesus advocated for government to force people to give to one another.

Many of the poor in the US have significant sin problems that money only enables. It is wicked, not just unwise, to give people money that enables their debauchery and self-destructive behaviors. God calls us to help widows and orphans, not the promiscuous, lazy and wicked. Government does not give to meet needs wisely or with any moral discernment at all.

Read the parable of the Talents in Matthew 25 and note how Jesus never corrected the master who called his servant lazy and wicked for not using the money he was given to earn more. Note how Jesus did not say the master was evil for taking the small amount away from this servant. Obviously, this parable has a dual meaning, but we must not ignore it's practical meaning. Should we ignore Paul's statement that people that choose to not work should not eat at their neighbor's expense.

I suspect you have spent a lot of time under some very racist, hate-filled Bible teachers. Your love of big government is very misplaced.

Roger Jones, WND 36 Comments [2/11/2015 4:30:45 AM]
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Quote# 106313

The Darwinian Atheist Communist scientists in the Democratic Party fabricated the science, that their Communist activists in the Judicial System based legalizing homosexuality in the USA. This is part of the Communist Democratic Party's plot to outlaw Christianity by passing laws that make practicing Christianity in the USA illegal. Legalizing homosexuality in the USA is part of the fulfillment of Rev 18:2, which foretold that Babylon the great, which Jesus revealed to me and sent me out to tell His people is the USA would become like a prison and become full of every kind of hateful bird and unclean spirit, which includes the Atheist scientists that fabricated the science, their Communist activists in the Judicial system and the homosexuals.

Rev 18:2 and he cried out with a mighty voice, saying "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird.

James Albright , WND 35 Comments [2/11/2015 4:29:27 AM]
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Submitted By: PhillipaFry.

Quote# 106309

Ayn Rand once wrote, “Show me the woman [a man] sleeps with and I will tell you his valuation of himself.” If this applies to American men in general, our nation is rocketing towards Gomorrah like a fat kid on a water slide. No less than an authority than the New York Times has declared that booty is in, with pop singers and movie stars like Iggy Azalea and Beyonce showing off their asses and music videos for songs like “Booty” providing a butt buffet for America’s simpletons.

This is not a good thing.

I don’t mean to trample on anyone’s preferences, but America’s increasing ass addiction is further evidence of our decline as a society. Not only is booty worship associated with primitive, backwards cultures, but America’s burgeoning butt cult is yet another expression of female narcissism. By cheering on the likes of Meghan Trainor and other ambassadors of ass, you are helping perpetuate the degradation of women into fat, self-centered sluts.

Ass, Class And Status

It’s universally accepted that a man’s preferences in female beauty are indicative of his class and attitude. Historically, ass fixations were considered trashy, because butts signify the primal and hearken back to our animal origins. Boobs were associated with working-class men (think the original Playboy), while legs were the preference of the upper classes because they signified good breeding (since height is an indicator of good nutrition and genes).

This was confirmed by a recent Pornhub study analyzing the types of search strings their sites get. The map below displays whether boob or butt searches are more popular in certain countries:



As you can see, asses are preferred in Africa, South America, and the Middle East, regions known for their crushing poverty and corrupt governments. The civilized, wealthy nations of the world, from Europe to Asia, prefer boobs. Egypt and Argentina, historically the most advanced countries on their respective continents, also prefer boobs. The U.S. is the only first world nation in the Butt column, and that’s primarily because of our large black and Latino populations.

Looking at a state-by-state breakdown, we see the exact same pattern. The states where boobs reign are the whitest ones, as well as the ones with the highest quality of life, the least corrupt governments, and the lowest crime rates. Vote Ass if you enjoy paying 50 percent of your taxes to a government that can’t even pave the roads or protect you from criminals, while your city devolves into a third world cesspool.

Those Phat Asses Aren’t For You

So maybe you think my civilizational explanation is cracked out, or you just don’t care about the fate of the U.S. But even if that’s the case, there’s still a very good reason to oppose the MSM’s booty crusade: it’s feeding the self-absorption of young women.

The reason why asses are considered low-class is because developing a big ass requires less discipline then any other female beauty standard. The butt is the only part of a woman’s anatomy that improves when she gains weight. Contrary to what fat girls think, getting obese doesn’t make for better boobs, because a fatty’s tits are veiny, distended, and saggy. Absolutely no effort is required for a girl to get a big ass; perfect for a nation in which the majority of women are turning into cellulite-ridden hambeasts.

This is the most troubling aspect of America’s butt cult: virtually all the ass anthems being pushed by the media are paeans of self-love. Take the video for Meghan Trainor’s “All About That Bass” as an example:

Trainor is a fat white girl rapping about how she’s fine just the way she is, how beauty standards that expect her to cut down on the bon-bons are oppressive, and denigrating women who have “stick figure,” “Barbie doll” physiques. The message to girls is clear: don’t work on yourself, don’t take care of your body, and any man repulsed by your undulating stomach flab and toilet paper-infested asscrack is a meanie misogynist.

The same attitude is present in last year’s other major butt worship song, Jennifer Lopez’s “Booty.” When that video first came out, I was talking about it with some friends and one commented on how anhedonic and unsexy it was. I told him that “Booty” wasn’t supposed to be sexy. J.Lo and Iggy Azalea aren’t flaunting their butts because they want to look hot for men, they’re doing it out of narcissism: “You better worship my big booty, or else!”

Contrast these music videos to Sir Mix-a-Lot’s “Baby Got Back,” which ass-lovers point to as an example of how butts have gone mainstream. “Baby Got Back” is sexy and appealing because it was sung from a man’s perspective, about what men liked. It wasn’t even representative of black America’s tastes, because the majority of attractive black women didn’t emphasize their butts, even going all the way back to the sixties (NSFW link).

The current crop of ass anthems are by women, about women, and are about shaming men for not giving these women the deference they think they deserve. What you prefer as a man is irrelevant: big booty is the only item on the menu, and if you don’t like it, you can starve for all they care.

Planet Of The Asses

It’s fine to prefer booty, but the left never stops at tolerance. Gay rights were originally sold to the public with the “tolerance” canard, but in the year 2015, Christian bakers are getting sued left and right for refusing to make gay wedding cakes. Eventually, if you don’t worship the flabby ass of every narwhal lumbering down the street, you’ll be treated like you’re personally jamming your finger down the throat of every bulimic in America.

Again, if you like asses, there’s no problem with that. But the booty cult being pushed by the mainstream media isn’t the product of what men want, it’s yet another way to bolster the already inflated egos of women. Iggy Azalea, Meghan Trainor and their ilk are horsewomen of the female narcissism apocalypse, slipping poison in the ears of this nation’s already slovenly, slutty, selfish girls.

Matt Forney, Return of Kings 63 Comments [2/11/2015 4:27:26 AM]
Fundie Index: 31

Quote# 106308

Things weren't always quite this bad. In the past few years, Short Creek has become bisected by two big "judgments." At the command of Jeffs and his brother Lyle, the leaders interviewed everyone and decided who was worthy—and not worthy—of joining an elite institution called the United Order, or the UO. You could be judged unworthy for basically anything—having a miscarriage, playing sports, or not wanting to marry a man old enough to be your grandfather—and if you were judged unworthy, you were demoted to a lower, slave-like class.

Many people didn't make it into the UO even when their kids did. If those kids were over the age of eight, they were taken away to be raised by other mothers or sent out on unpaid work crews, like Willy was. Hundreds of families were split up, sometimes never to see each other again. Those who didn't make it into the UO, children included, were sent to live with a group of other "unworthy" people in crowded homes similar to the duplex, or in a series of large tents now being built for the unrighteous. We drove past the tents. They sat unsheltered in the freezing temperatures.

Alyssa and her mother did not make it into the UO. They were sent to live in a non-UO house, the one with the roaches, where 22 other children were living. "We had two ten-year-olds [living there] who weren't with their parents. Just orphans. 'Cause they were unworthy," Alyssa explained. "It was like the most horrible whack to their self-esteem... They didn't know what they did bad."

Warren Jeffs and Lyle Jeffs, Vice 23 Comments [2/11/2015 4:27:02 AM]
Fundie Index: 16
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 106307

I picture nearly all of today's churches as being aboard a big ship. On the side of the ship it reads, “Mainstream Evangelicalism!” There are hundreds of Bible versions aboard the ship. There are dozens of different plans of salvation taught by evangelicals like John MacArthur, Rick Warren, Chip Ingram, Ray Comfort, William Lane Craig, Paul Washer, Billy Graham and others onboard. Everybody aboard the ship is going along to get along. Nobody exposes or criticizes each other. Everybody is comfortable, enjoying all the splendors of the luxury ship. They all draw near to God with their mouths, and honor God with their lips, but their heart is far from Him, teaching manmade doctrines. This ship's captain is Lucifer! Anything goes on Lucifer's ship. It doesn't matter which Bible version you use. It doesn't matter which plan of salvation that you choose to believe. Everybody is taken care of and prospering.

What is our nation turning into when AWAB (a LGBT gay-rights group) are infiltrating our churches. When the American Baptist Convention USA (ABCUSA) joined together with AWAB, 300 member churches of their 5,400 member church convention resigned. Amen! I'm shocked that 5,100 member churches stayed!!! Apostasy is everywhere today. The time is soon coming when born-again Christians will either be forced to gather in secret places or in private homes once again. The churches are becoming entertainment centers. It's a big joke! It's all becoming a big circus. Hundreds of Bible versions. Dozens of plans of salvation. Have you noticed that the more that you move toward ecumenism, the more there is chaos and nothing really matters anymore doctrinally or morally.

From the far-right Christian position, you've got only ONE BOOK, the King James Bible. You've only got one plan of salvation, which simply says any admitted sinner can believe the Gospel as be immediately and secularly saved forever.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 25 Comments [2/11/2015 4:26:40 AM]
Fundie Index: 12

Quote# 106306

THREE CHEERS FOR MR DAVID CAMERON -
Reading one of the national newspapers (which I only do at the most once a week) I spotted a bit by Mr Cameron on his 'greatest achievement for 2014' which was the law allowing 'same-sex marriages'. Can someone please inform Mr Cameron of the Eternal Laws relating to this -

Male + Male = 0

Female + Female = 0

Male + Female = Child

When this Eternal Law is broken our Folk cannot survive, since without children there will be no future generations. People should question why Mr Cameron wishes this upon our Folk!

The second 'achievement' mentioned by our Mr Cameron is that Britain has the fastest-growing economy; before we pat ourselves on the back for this, it has only come about by including in our economy drugs and prostitution. What sort of sick society bases their economy on drugs and prostitution? More to the point is that we have here the reason the 'War against Drugs' never actually achieves anything - for if it did our economy would fail. It is the small petty drug-dealers on the street that are caught, and they can be replaced.

All this gives us good reason to put more and more effort into creating a Spiritual Revolution that will put an end to this hell-on-earth created by the Dark Forces that rule us today. We need to be even more fanatical about this in the sense of an urgency, since things are getting worse and worse in this land.

Wulf Ingessunu, Woden's Folk 41 Comments [2/11/2015 4:26:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 21

Quote# 106305

Intermarriage has always been a problem among the Jewish people and it's mentioned in the Torah. I am not a politically correct person and I say that with pride. There is no need to skirt around our core values. Intermarriage has dealt as much of a death blow to the Jewish people as pogroms, terrorist attacks, the Inquisition and the Holocaust. This is not something we have to be nice about. It is a threat to our continuity and we have to regard it as an enemy. You don't pussyfoot around an enemy. One of the reasons intermarriage has been allowed to happen is that people don't want to make waves. I think we need to make waves if we're going to stop people from drowning. Intermarriage is not okay! Sure draw people closer with love but don't be accepting of intermarriage!

Rosally Saltsman, Aish.com 21 Comments [2/11/2015 4:25:42 AM]
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Quote# 106304

I married out of the Jewish religion when I was too young and did not think it mattered. My family acted as if I had committed murder.

n a way I did. I murdered the possibility of my children and grandchildren from continuing the long line of Judaism my family has gone through. Both my Parents even made it through the Holocaust and had me to continue the Jewish line.

The "Anything Goes" Attitude that has taken over the religion could be the death of our ancient religion. I have divorced because when it came down to the bottom line, I did not want to have Christian children running around asking for a Christmas tree and presents and the fact that I would have destroyed a line of a Jewish family. It would be comparable to an Inquisition or Holocaust. Judism would end in my family.

This is too important and I put off having children until our differences caused us to divorce each other. I feel relieved that I did not bring any non-Jews into the world. There is room for both religions but when it comes to marriage I believe one should stick to their own religion.

Barry, Aish.com 18 Comments [2/11/2015 4:25:38 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 106299

The bottom line is male dominated religions are at the very source of Female oppression. The veils, the bodily shaming, the shame around our menses which was OUR MOST POWERFUL TIME PSYCHICALLY where womyn by choice bonded together spiritually in menstrual huts...took a time out 3-5 days a month to spiritually and psychically bond and connect with Mother Earth and guide their tribes with their dreams and visions at this time was turned around to be a time of shaming and uncleanness starting with Orthodox Judaism where she couldn't even touch her husband and had to bathe in the mikveh...but the same with Native religions if a woman was bleeding she wasn't to be around men for fear of "dulling their spears"...i bet..so powerful was Female Magic during our bloods that ALL of the patriarchal religions attempt to contain that physical, spiritual and psychic Female Yoni Power by making it something nasty and dirty and not to be spoken of.

The same when a womon holds her Wise Blood inside and becomes a Crone. Crones were even more feared..Once the Tribal Elders and Wise womyn and healers were turned into useless and villainous older women who were hunted down in the Witch craze during the Dark/Middle Ages....destroying the wisdom and last remnants of our matriarchal societies and Knowing to a deep seated fear many womyn have at truly accessing our Power at the deepest of levels. You have Patriarchal mind numbing soul and spirit stifling religions to thank for that....much less the 80 million females a year who undergo Female Genital Mutilation in the name of male dominated religion.

MasterAmazon, Dykes For Dykes 50 Comments [2/10/2015 4:02:23 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 106297

I'm really concerned about dinosaurs, and I think something needs to be done. The science behind them is pretty flimsy, and I for one do not want my children being taught lies. Did you know that nobody had even heard of dinosaurs before the 1800s, when they were invented by curio-hungry Victorians?

Charles Darwin's later theory of evolution entirely disproved dinosaurs, yet the dinosaur lie was twisted and adapted to try to make it fit. Any proper look at the facts will reveal that dinosaurs simply never existed.

Aside from the educational aspect, dinosaurs are a very bad example for children. At my children's school, several children were left in tears after one of their classmates (who had evidently been exposed to dinosaurs), became bestially-minded and ran around the classroom roaring and pretending to be a dinosaur. Then he bit three children on the face. One poor girl has been left with a severely dented nose and the whole class was left traumatised by this horrible display.

Nothing about dinosaurs is suitable for children, from their total lack of family values through to their non-existence from any serious scientific point of view.

Recently my sister foolishly gave my two youngest some dinosaurs toys for Christmas. After telling her to get out of my house I burnt the dinosaurs. My children were delighted because they know that dinosaurs are evil. I am fortunate that my family has been very supportive, and has disowned my children's former aunt.

Please, do what you can to get dinosaurs taken off the curriculum. Our school has been recently presented with a 214-signature petition, and following that and our recent protest the headmaster has said that he will take it the governors. We are lucky that he is so sympathetic to our cause, but I fear that others may not be.

If you would like to lend your support to our campaign, we have a Facebook group where we spread facts and research about the dinosaur myth. Hope to see you there! :-)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nonexistingdinosaur/

Further comment:
"I used to believe in dinosaurs. We all did. We were all raised on the dinosaur lie, and so we don't question it. I'm used to getting amused reactions at first, and then I'm equally used to people learning a bit about the facts themself and coming to the obvious realisation that they've been fed a fraud.

As for the skeletons, Madcatgirl, you'll find that not one of them is made of bone, and none has ever been found complete. In some cases the 'bones' have been entirely fabricated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_Wars for instance), and in many other cases creatures have been misidentified, often intentionally.

Bear in mind that the fossils dug out of the ground are usually flattened and pulled out of shape. The final forms of the 'dinosaurs' is based on conjecture and imagination."



CADministry, Mumsnet 84 Comments [2/10/2015 4:01:38 AM]
Fundie Index: 37
Submitted By: Talmyr

Quote# 106296

[From a post dedicated to "demolishing pro-choice arguments"]

The last argument, and the one which is perhaps the most sinister, is that an unborn child is indeed a living human person, but that it has no right to live off of its mother. The mother's right to bodily autonomy, they say, is absolute and no child has the right to use its mother's body for shelter or sustenance. They view the child as a parasite, feeding from the mother, and this gives her every right to kill it in their opinion. What a twisted view.

The thing is, a woman's body is designed to bear children and the existence of a child within her womb is not at all like a parasite taking from its host. Further, a woman has a responsibility to her child. A mother cannot refuse to feed her child after it is born. She cannot leave a newborn out in the cold to die. The child has an inalienable right to live. When you create a child, you have the unavoidable responsibility for taking care of that life. Outside the womb, this means you must feed and shelter that child. It means the same thing before birth. The difference is, before birth the options are more limited as to where that care can take place. The unborn child needs the protection of the mother's womb just as babies who have been born need clothing and milk. A mother cannot refuse to meet the needs in the latter case, so why should she be allowed to neglect the needs in the former case? The child's rights have not changed. The mother's responsibility has not changed. Birth changes only the location of the baby - not its status as a human being and not its right to live.

Lindsay Harold, Lindsay's Logic 35 Comments [2/10/2015 4:01:08 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 106295

I hear all the time that evolution has disproven the Biblical account of creation. For some, this even leads them to discount Christianity or even theism all together. But is the evidence really so strong for evolution?

I have a master's degree in biology from a secular university. I've studied evolution in depth, and the evidence simply doesn't add up. It's not that there isn't any evidence. There is, but a lot of it depends on your interpretation. There are alternate interpretations that also make sense of the same exact data - and often some data that are more difficult for evolution to explain as well. That's why, overall, the creationist explanation fits better with the evidence. When you actually study the data and understand both frameworks well, you can evaluate which fits better. I've done that.

The main problem is that too many people evaluate the data with an incorrect view of the creation framework. They think, for example, that evolution is about change and creation is about staying the same. So when they see evidence of biological change, they think it's evidence for evolution and evidence against creation. But the truth of the matter is that both frameworks agree to a large extent on what we should see today. Both incorporate change. So you have to dig into the details of HOW that change occurs to really tell the difference.

Here is a very brief and simplified overview of the two views:

Evolution claims that organisms can become more complex over time and that information can be added to the genome through random mutation and natural selection. Evolution also claims that all organisms originated from a common ancestor and have gradually diverged into the many forms of life we have today through the buildup of these mutations.

Creation, on the other hand, claims that organisms were created by God as separate kinds that reproduce only within their kind. Creation also claims that random genetic changes, while they certainly do occur, will be neutral or degradative with respect to information content (though degradative changes aren't necessarily harmful to the organism and may sometimes be a good thing in some environments) and that some genetic changes may occur due to directed or programmed mutation rather than random mutation.

That’s not as simple as change versus no change.

Lindsay Harold, Lindsay's Logic 35 Comments [2/10/2015 4:01:01 AM]
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The way that God speaks about idol worship, false religions and so on is very strident. Isaiah does not mince his words: “throw them away like a menstrual cloth and say to them, ‘Away with you!'”

False religious practice deserves as much respect as a used tampon. Of course that is not PC but it is what God’s word says.


Madeline, mandm.org 31 Comments [2/10/2015 4:00:47 AM]
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By the way, I am currently on my 45th day without eating in protest at carvings of the FALSE maori gods that have been placed on the Blenheim courtroom wall, and all through the social welfare building and even on an outside wall of a (supposed) christian owned food bank (Johns kitchen). I have written to the court asking for its removal on 2nd may (still I have not recieved a reply) and I have lost a lot of weight (to much) please pray ! I have spoken to all the churches yet their response is (its only ART) I am willing to die for this,and so far it seems I am going to (SAD). Also I have put my concerns about this (including the protest) to the ombudsman, and the minister of courts Stuart Beressford, the NZ Police (blasphamous liable and perverting the course of justice) and the Blenhiem council, and many other so called churches throughout NZ, all so far to absolutely NO preval. Even the book of Romans states the consequence of GOD giving a punishment of (men with men and women with women) civil union.know them by their fruits, and stiill nothing. So far I have been threatened with arrest for speaking against them in the courtroom office foyer, and have been arrested on quite a number of times reading the HOLY BIBLE out loud on my own doorstep (under the pretense of disturbing the peace).In the flesh it seems im on my own, but praise be to Jesus for His Holy spirit to help me continue. The LORD bless you and thanks for your awesome posts, you give me hope of which I have nearly lost all, THANKS

Brendon Phillips, mandm.com 29 Comments [2/10/2015 3:59:31 AM]
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At long last someone speaking up against Maori mythology. I was shocked after spending 23 years overseas upon arriving back in NZ to see all the maori motifs etc. at the airport and woven into *every* part of NZ life. Even in primary school the children are taught how to bow down and worship the various Maori gods. These demonic entities (tikis and so on) have brought a terrible curse upon the Maoris of this land. Yes, Pakeha have their curses too-but none stand out as prominently as that of Maori. Read the list of curses God promised to those who indulge in idolatry, in Deuteronomy 28. “You shall be few in number,” poverty, sickness, death, “the tail and not the head,” etc etc. God has brought all the curses of idolatry upon the Maoris (other than the Christian ones of course.) It hurts me for them. He even promises, “a trembling heart and failing of the eyes,” (anxiety and depression-both of which seem rife among Maori.) I am grieved for them. When I stood up in our prayer time in church and prayed that God would wake up the Maoris to their false beliefs and so bring them out from under the curse, I was told to be quiet and sit down by the Leader. It turns out that her husband has a quarter percentage of Maori in him and had used it to claim entitlements due to Maoris. He became the leader of “his” Iwi and receives a fortune in NZ Taxpayers dollars, simply for attending Maraes and Tangis and saying the odd speech to praise up Maoris.

Linda Williscroft, mandm.com 21 Comments [2/10/2015 3:59:25 AM]
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Why shouldn’t women be referees?

Estrogen. You see competitive sports on all levels gets intense. In the heat of battle, tempers flare, names are called, and shit gets physical outside of the normal playing rules. Minor scuffles break out all the time in the NBA and the NFL. The officiating crews know and understand that this is what happens when testosterone mixes with adrenaline in a competitive environment.

Cooler heads prevail more often than not (the Malice at the Palace being the one major exception) and outside of a few shoves and some foul language, referees generally refrain from imposing any sort of penalty.

Women are governed by their emotions. So when things heat up on the playing field and things get rowdy they go to their default programming which is make the call based on feelings. Thursday night was the perfect example of this. The Clippers were frustrated due to being blown out, but Holtkamp made it worse by unleashing her hair trigger finger with all of her terrible calls because she simply couldn’t handle the gravity of the situation.

The bottom line is she cracked under pressure and tried to mitigate the damage by projecting it onto the players by making bad calls. And if you think this going to be an isolated event, think again. All women are like that. Period.

Plus, when things do escalate physically referees step in to separate the players. You think a female is strong enough to stop a 6’6? 230 lb power forward from accosting another player?

Then there’s the issue regarding personal vendettas. Yes, men hold grudges from time to time, but females take them to their graves. Piss them off one time and you’re on their shit list for life. There’s no way Holtkamp doesn’t hold this against Paul, and I’d bet the farm that other female officials act on long standing quarrels with players and coaches on the regular.

In the end…

…this is about the relentless pursuit of the infiltration into a male sphere by women. Female referees, female sports pundits, women’s causes and every other vagina-motivated agendas are becoming more prominent by the day. This fiasco is further proof that sports on all levels will eventually be eroded by women and their white knight betas.

This is yet another feather in the feminist cap. Sooner or later sports will be completely infested by females rendering professional sports in this country just about unwatchable in every way.

Donovan Sharpe, Return of Kings 29 Comments [2/10/2015 3:55:40 AM]
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