Quote# 113178

In SJW circles, pedophilia is the new transgender.

AussieVGCollector, r/KotakuinAction 29 Comments [9/28/2015 11:55:35 AM]
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Quote# 113177

[Original Prophecy from the 90s, updated after the 2008 Election. Really old, but still WTF worthy]

June 1, 1997
In 1971, I received a vision of the night in which I was shown a row of houses. It was not until 23 years later that the Spirit gave me a dream which held the key to the meaning of these houses. They represent presidential administrations, starting with Truman in 1953, and extending into the future for two more presidents (beyond Clinton).

Linear Recounting of the Vision of the Night:

"We were fleeing the persecution and calamity of the day. A brother was fleeing with me. He fell and I paused to help him up. We prayed "Lord Have Mercy". My friend vanished, and I looked around to see that I was at the top of a hill overlooking 12 houses. As I looked to the west, I noticed dark and ominous clouds gathering over one house (#10) and proceeding through to the last house (#12). I looked into the sky over #12, and saw an arc of what appeared to be 6 stars in the sky. One of the stars fell to the earth like a fig that was shaken off a limb. A voice came to me and said "look to the east!". I began to turn to the east, fully expecting to see the Lord coming in the clouds. The dark clouds opened up in two places and I saw the sun darkened and the moon turned to blood. As I looked to the east, instead of seeing the Lord in the sky, I saw an army. This army was made up of ancient armliments such as battering rams, catapults and siege ramps. I ran down and joined the army at house #5. Instantly I was transported into the future, and found myself before what I can only call a "temple fortress". The city was gray, in ruins, and desolate. A man had just emerged from the huge double doors of the temple fortress. He was dressed in a suit. A voice said to me "he says he is god, but he is of devil". The the vision ended.

Significant events indicated in the vision:

6th star falls to the earth. Understood to mean the fall of a ruler
(or president).

I do not believe this to be actual stars or a comet or any other such object. The stars appeared to be within the atmosphere of the earth, and there was not a huge explosion or calamity when the red "star" fell to the earth.
The blood moon and lightless sun.

More imagry that represents the fall of nations and change in the ages. The fall of a president is not enough to bring about changes on this scale. There will be great changes in the earth and alignment of nations.
A wave ancient weapons of war, which I believe to represent the restoration the sign gifts:

"SIGNS WONDERS AND MIGHTY DEEDS"

I waited for 23 years to receive a clue as to the meaning of these houses. In another dream in 1995, I was in the back yard of house #3. I looked down at my feet and saw a LIFE magazine, with a picture of JFK on the cover, and the words "In Memory of Dead Presidents". House number three is the house that represents the term of John Kennedy.

[He goes on to describe the houses, I cut out the unimportant ones]

House 2 Eisenhauer
In a related dream, a model rocket was launched into the air and was drifting down into yard of this house. The rocket then turned into a glider and glided into the yard. My aunt used to refer to me as her "rocket boy" because of my early interest with model rocketry. It was in the Eisenhower Administration that I was born. (1954). It was during this dream that I ran through the back yard of house #3 (to retrieve the falling rocket) and was shown the Life Magazine with Kennedy on the cover. It was then that I knew that these houses represented presidential administrations.

House 3 Kennedy:

The yard in which I was shown the key to the meaning of the houses. The Life Magazine with JFKs face on it with a caption stating "In Memory of Dead Presidents" was in this yard. It has been suggested that all the presidents on this "street" must pass away before the events discussed in the remaining revelation can occur. This would mean all presidents up to Carter and maybe Reagan (his house is on a corner lot).

House 4 Johnson:

This house was occupied by a family of Jews named Levine. It was during the administration of LBJ that Jerusalem was returned to Israel during the 1967 Arab Israel war. Levine is a long form of Levite. This is a very significant event in the history of the world. With the retaking of Jerusalem, the temple can be rebuild and the stage set for both the setting up of the anti-christ and the return of Jesus Christ.
House 5 Nixon:

It was into the yard of this house that I ran down and joined the army of God which was marching forward through time(the backyards of these houses). It was also in the Nixon administration that I was saved, filled with the Spirit, and had the vision I am now describing. Everything up to this point had already happened in time. However, everything recorded in the remaining houses had not yet happened. It is significant to remember this president, since it will be (according to the falling star and darkened house #10)the 6th administration after Nixon that will endure the beginning of judgment on America, including the fall of that 10th president.

House 8 Reagan:

A Major shift occurs in the time of this president. The house sits on a corner lot, and the row of houses changes direction TO THE RIGHT. It can be noted that the nations' politics took a sharp turn to the right during the Reagan administration. Right or wrong, This shift undoubtedly was in the plan of God for the series of events leading up to the last presidents and the fate of the nation.

House 10 Clinton:

It is this administration that is the main focus of the vision of the night. Over the house was a very dark cloud, so dark that it seemed like night. The cloud was very low so as to almost touch the rooftop. There was something very significant about the "back door" of this house that may have some meaning. The lights were on in the house and they stood out brightly in the darkness created by the cloud. As I looked at this cloud hanging low over the 10th house, I ;also saw an arch of 6 stars in the sky to the west. The stars were of different colors, and the last (sixth from Nixon) of them fell to earth like a fig that was shaken loose from a limb. I have taken this to mean that this administration will preside over some very bad times in the USA, and that this administration will "fall".

House 11 President: (Gore?)

If my understanding of house 10 and the six stars is correct, then Gore is in line to succeed Clinton as president. Assuming some tragedy does not strike them both down. In the yard of this house is a large weeping willow tree. This tree represents mourning and sorrow. But under the draping limbs of this tree are children playing. SOME HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THE PICTURE OF THE MAN WHO WAS SHOWN TO ME AT THE END OF THIS VISION OF THE NIGHT IS ACTUALLY V.P. GORE!!

House 12 President: ?

This is the last house that I saw in this vision of the night. After this house was a dirt path that lead toward a collection of boulders arraigned in a semi circle which reminded me of a place where a trial was held and judgment rendered. In another dream which took place during the millennial age, I was standing among these rock looking at the ruins of a world rocked by the tribulation. In the ruins of these boulders I found a witch doll. I ;knew immediately that on of the reasons that the USA was judged was because she had gone after the occult and witchcraft.

Update 2000:

I am reminded by a few that many of the new subscribers may not be aware of my 1971 vision of the night and how it relates to the history of the US from the 1950s into the next century.
A short recounting is this:

I was given a vision of the night that depicted the last 12 presidents of the US.
Each administration [2 terms counts as only 1 administration] was represented by a house on a street (called Washington Street incidentally). These houses (starting with the house representing Eisenhower) proceed through till two presidents from now... (2 after Clinton). I was given this in 71, when Nixon was president.

The sixth house past Nixon (Nixon Ford Carter Reagan-Bush-CLINTON) [the house after Clinton, the 6th past Nixon, is Bush] was center stage of the dream. This house was shrouded in deep dark clouds. The clouds came right down and almost touched the roof. The lights were on in the house, and the back door drew special attention. To the north of the house was an arch of 6 stars. The sixth star fell to earth. Two large tunnels opened in the thick dark clouds through which I could also see the sun turned black and the moon to blood. These images are symbolic of the fall of a leader (6th star from Nixon fell [the one after Clinton]) the fall of the nation (the sun black) and the judgement of the church (red moon). [ This vision could mean that the President after Clinton (i.e. Bush) falls at the same time as the nation falls (Mystery Babylon, the UN/USA), and that the final President (the one after Bush) would be a puppet New World Order President placed over the USA until Christ returns at Armageddon [Megiddo].]

I have really been holding my breath for some time now. Based on this vision of the night, I (in 91-92) said that Clinton would be re-elected for a second term and would not finish his second term. Up till last week (with an approval rate of 62%) it was hard to believe that he would fall. Yet the events of the last week seem to be pointing us toward that possibility. Why would the Lord tell us this 27 years ago? (the earliest record of the vision I can find is in a journal I have from 1973). It will be 27 years ago in February that I received this. It was actually in response to a prayer. I knew that difficult times were coming and was taught that we were to be raptured out of the trouble. But something in my spirit said no. My prayer was out of that troubled spirit. In response, this dream was telling me that we would be here, that great changes would take place when we see this president fall [the one after Clinton], and that we should not be troubled! He [the Lord] can save us and keep us safe rapture or no [not].

You see, right after the fall of the sixth star [the one after Clinton], I turned to the east fully expecting to see the Lord coming in the sky, which is the rapture theory that I had been taught and had prayed about. I did not know what the word of wisdom was then, and this dream really had a profound effect on my spiritual life. It was by far the most powerful spiritual experience in my life. I walked around in a daze for days!

What to look for:
(1.) Gore will become president. - GREAT CONFUSION!!! [Great confusion, but Gore ultimately did not succeed.]
(2.) Great problems for the country and believers.
(3.) An outpouring in response to persecution.
(4.) Historic events in the Mideast.
(5.) A great destruction in the US. I wish I could be more specific. In the dream I saw a man who looks a great deal like Gore who presided over the destruction. I am really still up in the air about this. For many many years I thought this figure in the dream was the Antichrist (it is still that way on the web page). It still may be. Some have written to me and stated very strongly that they believe the person I present on the page is Gore. It could be. There is a resemblance.
(6.) Realize that this is happening is for several reasons:
Abortion
Witchcraft
Lust
Light treatment of spiritual things In the church: modernism and tradition The overall rejection of faith and spiritual things.
The Lord is saying "Why are you ashamed of me?"

Remnant Resource note:

House #12 will begin in February 2009. If this vision is correct, that President for house 12 will be the last president. This supposed president turned out to be Barry Sorotoro(AKA Barack Hussein Obama). It is obvious to all but the completely brainwashed that this man is not a proper president. He has not proven eligibility to be president by constitutional directive. He has also not taken a proper oath of office.
This leaves the question was Bush the last president, or is Obama, even though legally he is not?
Will "O" (the one) be the one who will shortly become the world government leader/dictator? Even if that is not true, the office of president will be eliminated, and the USA will be just a territory under the one world government, with the office of president no longer needed.
It is becoming ever clear that Saturn will be turned into a second sun at this time, probably at the same time the one world government leader will be announced publicly. look for this to happen in 2010, sometime around the 7th or 8th month according to NASA.


C Alan Martin, Remnant Resource Network 25 Comments [9/28/2015 11:50:04 AM]
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Quote# 113176

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) vowed to tear up the Iran nuclear deal on his first day in office and threatened to kill the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, if he’s elected president.

The religious conservative crowd at the Values Voters summit lustily cheered his bloodthirsty comments during his appearance Friday morning at the annual event.

Cruz said he would “rip to shreds” the agreement approved by Congress, and he threatened to kill Iran’s leader if he did not give up his nuclear ambitions.

“If the ayatollah doesn’t understand that, we may have to help introduce him to the 72 virgins,” Cruz said, as the audience cheered loudly.

The GOP presidential candidate also said if a jihadist tried to enter a U.S.military recruiting station, he would be greeted by the gun barrels of “a dozen Marines.”

The conservative Christian audience again cheered enthusiastically.

Cruz opened his speech with a teleprompter joke and referred to President Barack Obama as “the world’s most powerful communist.”

He also suggested the Democratic debates should be held at the Leavenworth prison and joked that Obama should be incarcerated.

“If they can project a rainbow on the White House, maybe they can put bars on the windows,” Cruz said.

Ted Cruz, Raw Story 35 Comments [9/28/2015 11:49:47 AM]
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Quote# 113175

Two years ago, “Trunews” host Rick Wiles wondered if President Obama would use a trip to Jerusalem to “declare himself as God.” While that didn’t happen, Wiles has now offered new evidence that Obama will soon announce his godhood: a dream from a friend.

Wiles dedicated part of his Thursday broadcast to running a previously unaired segment of his interview with televangelist Jim Bakker, in which the two traded conspiracy theories and End Times prophecies. In the new segment, Bakker and Wiles discussed a dream that C. Alan Martin once had in which he prophesied that Al Gore would be the 43rd president and that his successor would bring about God’s judgment on America as he “claims to be God, but is of devil.”

That was all the proof Wiles needed, citing the dream as evidence that Obama is “evil” because he “said he is a God” and is bringing about America’s destruction. “This dream is coming true, the time is now,” he said.


Rick Wiles, Right Wing Watch 17 Comments [9/28/2015 11:49:31 AM]
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Quote# 113173

So what is there to look forward to during the end times? Is it going to be all hardship and strife? No. For those who are honoring God, there will be times of blessing and joy just as there are today. But be wise about this: devoted Christians will be among the casualties that God creates. God is not going to shield His elect from experiencing any violence from His hand, but this is where we need to remember that God considers death to be a great reward for His faithful ones. Death is the beginning of our eternal joy in Heaven. Death is not something we need to be afraid of.

It is vital that you understand how to discern where you are at in your own relationship with God. Then no matter what happens, you can feel secure (see Does God love us all the same?). God is extremely easy to please. Once you know that you are pleasing Him—and this is a very simple thing to determine—then you can know that no matter how much violence He does around you, to those you care about, or to you personally, He is not punishing you in anger, but rather creating opportunities for you to draw nearer to Him. Remember that this final phase of violence and chaos is going to drag on for years. As a Christian, you need to see it as an exciting opportunity to draw closer to God.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 18 Comments [9/28/2015 9:57:06 AM]
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Quote# 113172

In the Bible, we find many examples of the specific forms God’s wrath takes in this world, such as:

Killing individuals through supernatural means.
(ex: the fire that consumed Nadab & Abihu; the fire that consumed soldiers who tried to arrest Elijah; God suddenly striking Herod down and causing him to be eaten by maggots; God striking dead the man who touched His Ark)
The mass slaughter of people through supernatural means
(ex: the Red Sea collapsing on the Egyptian army; God raining hailstones down on a fleeing army; God massacring Israelites after King David’s census)
The sudden onset of widespread diseases.
(ex: the plague of boils; the plague that swept through the Israelite camp after they ate quail; the plague of tumors on the Philistines after they stole the Ark)
Supernaturally inflicting humans with dramatic diseases.
(ex: God turning Miriam’s skin white and necrotic; God turning Elisha’s servant Gehazi into a leper)
Terrifying geological events.
(ex: the plague of hail; the ground opening and swallowing Korah)
Causing nature to run amuck.
(ex: the plagues of frogs, locusts, & gnats; the attack of deadly serpents in Israel’s camp; wild lions devouring people in Samaria; the plague of rats on the Philistines after they stole the Ark)
Causing animals to attack individuals.
(ex: the lion that killed a disobedient prophet but left his donkey unharmed)
The sudden destruction of large manmade structures.
(ex: the fall of Jericho; the collapse of the Philistine temple; the fall of the Philistine idol Dagon).
Using human armies to inflict shocking carnage on a massive scale
(ex: the cutting open of pregnant women, the beating of children on rocks, the mass slaughter of men during the fall of Jerusalem)
The degradation of humans.
(ex: the mass rape of women & driving the Jews to cannibalism during the final siege of Jerusalem)
The mass slaughter of children.
(ex: the plague on the firstborn)
The mass slaughter of animals.
(ex: the plague on the livestock)
Do any of these things sound familiar? We read about similar events happening in the news all the time. When scores of children get gunned down by a psychopath in their classroom, what is your first response? Do you wonder where God is and how He could have let such a terrible thing happen? Such questions flatly deny God’s sovereignty. You aren’t getting any points with God by pretending He has nothing to do with shocking and terrible events. When you read about a tree collapsing on a little girl at the exact moment she is walking under it; when you read about a plane crash killing hundreds; when you read about terrorists mass torturing and slaughtering people, don’t be asking “Where’s God?” Open your eyes and see that God is right in the middle of all of these things: causing them to happen for very good reasons.

Now there’s a widespread delusion in the Church that if God ever does something bad to someone, He must be angry at them. No, this is wrong. God wasn’t angry at the unborn children of Israel when He arranged for their pregnant mothers to be run through by swords. God wasn’t angry at men like Daniel and Ezekiel when He trashed their homeland. We have to be very careful when we are interpreting violent acts in the news. Most of the time, God isn’t going to give us specific explanations about why He does what He does. When a tornado flattens a community of people, was God trying to punish those people or was He really going after other people who He knew would be devastated by the loss of that town? Death is only a terrible punishment if we are going to end up in Hell. For Christians, it’s a reward to die—it only devastates those we leave behind. So who is God trying to reach when He causes mass destruction? There is no simple answer. God is a multitasker. He’s always working several angles at once.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 16 Comments [9/28/2015 6:42:04 AM]
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Quote# 113170

When God lashes out in anger, we Christians should be the first to say, “Yes, Lord, Your wrath is beyond justified. Your discipline is long overdue. We deserve everything You do to us and a whole lot more.” We love to sing about God’s grace on Sunday morning, and we whine incessantly about our troubles in an unfair world without ever considering that those troubles are DESERVED. What have any of us done to deserve a perfect Paradise? Who can claim that they have come anywhere close to giving God the reverence, honor, glory, and obedience that He deserves? Does a single hour go by that we don’t fall down miserably in all of these areas? Human beings are WITHOUT EXCUSE when it comes to God’s wrath. God’s wrath is the righteous, reasonable reaction to God being disrespected. It is because He is so good that His rage over being defied is so correct. No one can accuse God of being unreasonably angry. Unreasonable in mercy—absolutely. Unreasonable in grace, love, compassion, and patience—very much. But God is NEVER unreasonably angry. On this earth we will never come close to experiencing the fury that our treatment of God deserves. This is what makes Hell so fabulous.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 20 Comments [9/28/2015 2:48:33 AM]
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Quote# 113168

There are people in this world who are poorer than you. You should feel bad about having more than them and give your excess away. Oh, and do it out of love for God because He that’s what He commands. If you don’t do it, He’ll be mad at you for being a greedy miser. This is often how Christians are taught to view giving to the poor. It’s guilt, guilt, and more guilt. By the time we’re done preaching about how Jesus said we ought to help the poor, we’ve made the poor out to be some big mistake on the planet that we’re all trying to help God fix. But is that really what they are?

Here’s a useful insight that we rarely hear anyone admit from the pulpit: God wants economic inequality in this world. Don’t think so? Try to make it go away. Down through the ages, countless men and women who told themselves they were more moral than the average fellow have fought, cried, and died for the cause of economic equality. The rich get endlessly lectured for hoarding. The poor get endlessly exonerated as helpless victims. Yet no matter what kind of plan is exacted, that beast of economic inequality remains. Some countries have even tried radical shifts in government—bring on that communism—and still the promise of everyone getting a fair share never works out. America has become famous for being the land of free handouts. Now she’s drowning in debt with a bunch of lazy, entitled slackers living off the dole. Now let’s be clear: is every American who is getting a free ride off of others being a leech? Certainly not. But too many of them are because the system is so badly handled. Guys who shouldn’t be getting anything are rolling in gluttony and stockpiling charitable donations, while guys who are legitimately suffering are being strung out on nothing no matter how much red tape they wade through. Every time free money is being offered, corruption is quick to follow. The guys controlling the money either pocket it for themselves or they get lazy about monitoring where it goes. American parents tire of hearing about how impoverished the schools are no matter how much money is thrown at them. Somehow the money never reaches the teachers and the kids. While everyone’s frustrated and no one learns how to read and write properly, all that money is disappearing into some hole that never gets identified and taxes keep being raised. In this world, the problem has never been that there isn’t enough to go around. The problem is that we humans hate to share.

So why do we hate to share? Who designed us to be such selfish little misers in the first place? That would be God. You can preach all day long about how much God hates sin, but at some point you have to ask yourself how so many things that God supposedly hates are managing to thrive in His own Creation? God is sovereign. He creates and controls all things, not just some things. Poverty, pain, and sickness aren’t signs that God’s grip on the universe is slipping, nor does it mean that Satan has pulled off some clever coupe. Before you can get the right answers to questions about how you should respond to the poor, you need to stop viewing God as some incompetent who is counting on creatures like us to keep this place tacked together.

God is in control. We don’t make His plans rise and fall. We aren’t His indispensable assistants. A lot of really righteous sounding preaching is backed by some really bad theology, and preaching about the poor rarely steps back and looks at the bigger picture. The reality is that this world will always be plagued with inequalities of all kinds. This is how God wants it. He has no intention of abolishing all poverty, war, sickness, and sorrow. So before we Christians set out to save the poor, we need to remember that we are supposed to be operating like servants, not generals. God is our Master. We can’t know what He would want in a given moment unless we ask Him.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 15 Comments [9/28/2015 2:48:17 AM]
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Quote# 113165

WE NEEDED FAITH, NOT POLITICS

If you're the donut man, sell donuts.

And if you're the pope, preach Christ.

In life, you have to know your role and remember your purpose. You have to keep your eye on the prize. Yesterday, in front of a Congress and a nation, Pope Francis forgot who he was.

He came to the plate, and he didn't swing.

He failed to deliver the one message his life is supposedly dedicated to delivering. With the eyes of a government and a people upon him, he squandered the opportunity of a lifetime.

America needed to hear something, and he didn't say it.

If you're the pope, you preach Christ. You spread the good news of a Savior sent to redeem mankind. You call the world to Christ, you call the world to repentance, you call the world to its knees.

You tell all who will hear, the most important thing they or anyone else will ever hear – that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

You follow the example of the Apostle Paul who went among the Corinthians with one topic on his lips – “Jesus Christ, and him crucified.”

You stand before the Americans, like that same Paul stood before the Athenians, and say, “Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.”

But that's not what Francis did.

I'm not sure he even mentioned God or Jesus.

Instead, he talked about immigration and global warming and social justice. He gave a halting, barely comprehensible lecture ripped right out of the progressives' talking points. He said nothing new, noble or memorable.

And he certainly didn't preach Christ. He said not a word that called anyone to God, or gave them an insight into salvation or the eternities.

He did nothing to save a soul.

Bob Lonsberry, Bob Lonsberry.com 23 Comments [9/28/2015 2:45:56 AM]
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Quote# 113164

Why do you guys support homosexualism???

[Homosexualism? What are you selling? The term is homosexuality. And to answer your question, it's because it's bigoted, silly and utterly backwards to say that two people of same gender who love each other can't get married the same way a straight couple can.]

Are you saying that submitting to the will of God is backwards? Sorry, but people of the same gender can't ever have a real marriage or love.


Durstan, nationstates 38 Comments [9/27/2015 8:01:30 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 113163

IS AMERICA BABYLON

Christians in United States know that America isn’t in Bible prophecy. What ever people told you, America is not there (by name or any “code name” ether). Second thing we all know is that Babylon is NEVER TAUGHT ANYWHERE IN SCRIPTURE AS NATION. So what is really Babylon? Babylon is some sort of system, and people see it as religious system.



Bible prophecy said “these view would surface at end times”. This is time of apostasy to deny everyone’s identity, sin and time of your visitation (this is the essence of all apostasy). People will always say ” it is somewhere else, someone else in future that no one knows”. The truth is IT IS US, NOW AND OUR NATION ( America ).



Do you ever ask yourself how America, THE GREATEST NATION, THE RICHEST NATION AND NATION WHO WON TWO WORLD WARS IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE? Could God forget America? Hmm, that is like saying God is “blind in one eye”. But truth is that God didn’t forget America in prophecy, that is how it is meant to be.


The Collapse will happen in 2017



Hard times are coming for Babylon. You will ask yourself, what is going to happen, how can i protect myself?! You can watch full video, and find out.

Current Events Linked to Ancient Prophecy.

This is short documentary, and it has been banned from all American countries. Why? Is America Babylon the Great? Because this will cause panic among all faithful followers of the words of our Lord. At the end of the video, you can buy e-book called Survive The End Days. Nathan Shepard is author of this book. Nathan will give your straight facts about Babylon & what will exactly happen in 2017. You will find your answer on question “Is America Babylon”.

Nenad, Survive the End Days 31 Comments [9/27/2015 8:01:23 AM]
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Quote# 113161

COOLIDGE — Ignoring legal counsel and concerns about a possible lawsuit, a majority of the Coolidge City Council voted Monday to amend a resolution that would allow prayers before council meetings, including a stipulation that they be Christian.

Council members Steve Hudson, Rob Hudelson, Gary Lewis and Tatiana Murrieta all voted in favor of the Christian-only stipulation to the resolution, which was originally written to include ministers from any faith represented within the city limits. Mayor Jon Thompson and Councilman Gilbert Lopez voted against the amended resolution, with Vice Mayor Jacque Henry absent.

Byron Sanders, the pastor at Fairhaven Baptist Church and the city’s public safety chaplain, presented the original ordinance, which reflected court rulings on the subject of prayer. That resolution called for sending out letters to ministers of all faiths around the city and would have allowed a rotating cast of prayer leaders at the beginning of each council meeting.

As each member of the council had a turn to speak, there was no opposition to this version of the resolution. Lewis did stipulate that if somebody from a religion he didn’t support came up to give a prayer, he might leave the room, and he was assured by City Attorney Denis Fitzgibbons that he would be well within his right to do so.

“Under my faith, I wouldn’t sit here and listen to it,” Lewis said. “I would walk away.”

Speaking last was Hudelson, who himself is a preacher. He made clear his views that the United States is a Christian nation.

“I think it’s very important,” Hudelson said. “We just proclaimed Constitution Week. You know what was said at the end of the (Revolutionary) war? A treaty in Paris that said ‘In the name of the most Holy and undivided Trinity.’ You don’t get that from the Quran. You get it from the Bible. You get it from Christianity. That’s our heritage.”

Rob Hudelson, Coolidge Examiner (Coolidge, AZ) 21 Comments [9/27/2015 8:00:46 AM]
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Quote# 113160

Lifesitenews.com has all manner of reportage on the truly despicable Danneels. You can start here, in which there is an audio recording of Danneels telling a boy to keep his mouth shut about being raped by a bishop – who also happened to be the boy’s uncle. Yeah. This Danneels is a real piece of shit.

Bergoglio has also HANDPICKED Danneels to be the NUMBER TWO MAN at the upcoming Synod on the Family, which is expected to drive the Church into schism.

And it all stands to reason. As we have discussed here over the last 2.5 years, Bergoglio is a thug, and the Church is pretty much completely infiltrated with people who DON’T ACTUALLY BELIEVE ANY OF IT. So, why would a power and earthly glory-hungry thug like Bergoglio, or a bunch of filthy, child-raping fags WHO DON’T ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN ANY OF IT be even the tiniest bit affected by the Law of the Church? It’s a PUNCHLINE to them. Why would we think that these people are internally constrained in any way for fear of a paradigm in which they DO NOT BELIEVE???

This effeminate, pollyanna worldview can no longer be defended. It’s just stupid. This has been prophesied by none other than THE MOTHER OF GOD, and frankly, how could one NOT want for this nightmare to be somehow thwarted? Is normalcy bias so strong that the systematic destruction of western civilization and the Church has to be not just ACCEPTED, but defended as NOMINAL?

Ann Barnhardt, Barnhardt.biz 9 Comments [9/27/2015 7:59:10 AM]
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Quote# 113159

(A series of posts on a thread about feminism)

Do I love women? Yes, absolutely. Do I think the avarage woman is inferior to the average man? Yes. Does that make me a misogynist? I don't think so

[Actually, yes. That is misogynistic]

If it is, then there is nothing wrong with being misogynistic. Let me elaborate... Do I think the average 15 year old is dumber than the average 30 year old? Yes. Is that ageist? Perhaps. If it is ageist, then there is nothing wrong with ageism.

Many people define misoginy as "hatred for women". If that's your definition of misoginy, then YES, misoginy IS a problem. I'm simply saying that I believe that misogyny is not a problem as long as your definition of misogyny is "believeing that women are ON AVERAGE inferior to men".

Prejudice = "Preconceived opinion that is not
based on reason or actual experience" (from oxforddictionaries.com) Btw, I never wrote that women are intellectuall inferior to men. What I wrote is that based on my OBSERVATION I THINK that women ON AVERAGE are intellectually inferior to men.


Pertwillaby, IMDb 20 Comments [9/27/2015 7:58:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Kevin Klawitter

Quote# 113158

Our Constitution Enables Us to Protect Our Rights and Fulfill Our Duties
To secure and fulfill all God-given rights and duties, governments are instituted among men. To fulfill those duties and protect those rights, We the People of the United States of America ordained and established a Constitution for ourselves.

Rights and Duties of Association, Including that Forceful Association—Government
God created Man with two great dimensions—individual and social. In so doing He gave us the right to associate with each other to take advantage of our rights and to fulfill our duties. The right to associate includes the right to choose one's associates, but does not include the right to force others to associate.

God has imposed on men a duty to associate in governments to put a justified fear into the hearts of evildoers. These duties are given for the good of all—but not to deprive any of the rights they are designed to protect! Governments should never commit the crimes they are created to prevent!

No association of men has any rights of itself, but only by reason of the rights contributed to it according to the covenant established among its members. That fundamental limit on associations includes the greatest and most forceful of all human associations—government. However, among all our rights we find those derived from our duties, for we all have a right to justly pursue our duties.

Therefore:The Constitution: the Original Contract that America has with Itself
A ordered liberty in a nation under God. We believe in strict adherence to written law. We believe the Constitution is the contract America has with itself. Its willful distortion has led to the violation of our Tenth Amendment guaranteed right to limited government—which inevitably requires oppressive taxation. Its faithful application will lift that awful burden

Freedom from "Liberalism"
Freed from the lawless oppression of Liberal rule, we may then compassionately and justly use our energy and ingenuity to provide for ourselves and our families. We will then establish truly free and responsible enterprise and reassert the basic human right to property.

The Protection of Life, and the Duties and Rights of Families
We believe in protecting all human life however weak, defenseless, or disheartened; we endorse the family as the essential bulwark of liberty, compassion, responsibility, and industry; and declare the family's right and responsibility to nurture, discipline, and educate its children. We maintain that all humans are persons from the beginning of their biological development and especially deserve our love and nurture when they are weakest and most dependent.

Marriage Between a Man and a Woman
We insist that marriage is between a man and a woman and assert the role of the law in establishing and reinforcing the mutual rights and obligations of that God-ordained contract.

The Individual and Common Defense
We assert the absolute, concurrent Second Amendment guaranteed individual right to self defense against impositions by other citizens or our government, coupled with a strong common defense, a common defense which requires a national sovereignty not damaged by imprudent or un-Constitutional treaties.

Our Great Pro-Life Constitution
The Republic established by our Constitution is the greatest of all pro-life institutions. In the first place, it protects our lives from the impositions of foreign nations and internal disorder. Our Constitution in its Fifth Amendment also forbids the government to take life—or liberty or property—unjustly. The Fourteenth amendment requires all States to apply all the protections they provide for life equally to all visitors or citizens, and to all born or unborn persons within the territories governed by their laws.

Wiley Drake, Wiley Drake For President 18 Comments [9/27/2015 7:54:52 AM]
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Quote# 113157

Christianity is the real deal and that's why New World Order atheists are trying to stamp it out

they don't go after Buddhism - they encourage it - because Buddhism is insipid and non threatening and not the real way to God

Christianity IS the real way to God

that's why athiests go after it and try to stamp it out

they want us to keep us away from God and grovel to satan with them

Anonymous, Yahoo! Answers 26 Comments [9/27/2015 7:35:48 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

Quote# 113155

A Catholic man recently assured me that he believes the Bible. He said he believes that Jesus died on the cross, was buried, and rose again 3-days later. He said he believed that Jesus' blood washes our sins away. Boy, he sure sounds like a Christians doesn't he? Nope! He's also trusting in his good works to merit him salvation. He's relying on his baptism into the Catholic Church, his daily reciting of the Rosary, and his keeping of the holy Eucharist to get him into Heaven. He is attempting to break into Heaven, as a thief. The Bible is adamantly clear that a person CANNOT get to Heaven by their own works (Romans 4:5; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5). ADDING works to faith is self-righteousness. Listen to what Romans 10:3,4 has to say about those who ADD works to faith... "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Do you understand that? The purpose of the Law is to show us our sinfulness, i.e., our NEED for a Savior. The ONLY way to Heaven is by FAITH ALONE in Jesus Christ.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 52 Comments [9/27/2015 4:46:27 AM]
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Quote# 113151

We can do both: share the Gospel AND work to eliminate social evils. Slavery was abolished by force and law in the US, by law in the UK. The Nazi Holocaust against the Jews was abolished by pure unyielding force.

Murder, rape, burglary, and many other crimes are all legislated illegalities, and the law is a powerful teacher. When abortion was illegal, abortion was rare - and highly shameful, to the point were a woman who had one was (correctly) shunned. Same thing, before no-fault divorce, when divorce was rare. Share the Gospel, yes, AND protect the vulnerable, thus fulfilling Jesus' Second Commandment.

"For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience." -- Romans 13:3-5

WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 15 Comments [9/27/2015 4:26:21 AM]
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Quote# 113149

#ShoutYourAbortion: Saying It Loudly Doesn’t Change That it’s Murder

Have you seen that #Shoutyourabortion is currently trending on Facebook and Twitter?

Are these women joking? You know they probably sit in bed at night pondering what their lives would’ve been like had they made the only RIGHT, clear, decision, and that’s to not MURDER the unborn baby they had inside them.

This makes my stomach turn.

Why would women be PROUD to have clearly made mistakes during intercourse and feel PROUD to end the life of a child. I AM MORTIFIED.

We need to defund Planned Parenthood, one day abortion will be looked back on and so much shame will come from anyone who supported it.

What happened to safe, rare, and legal? Now it’s abortion on demand for whatever reason you want?

We can love post-abortive mothers without celebrating their abortions. We can support these women without encouraging others to follow in their footsteps.

I love this blog post by a mom who has a beautiful message for post-abortive mothers:

You are not being judged. You are not being judged by me, for sure, but are you are also not being judged by the larger pro-life movement. This movement, and this moment, is not about judging you.

It feels that way, for sure. And I’m not trying to take that away from you, but I want you to grant the benefit of the doubt here and trust that I’m genuine when I say that for the vast majority of “us”, you are not being judged.

This is what is being judged: The practice and practitioners of abortion. Is it rare? (No). Is it legal (Apparently not, even with our embracing of it through our laws; even they are too stringent to be followed). Is it safe (for whom?). And, yes, is it moral? (No. Value attaches to human life at its beginning.)

We cannot let abortion advocates claim the narrative that they are the ones that are really pro-women. Asking women to share about a (hopefully) very difficult decision to terminate the life of their own child is not respectful to these mothers. It is not empowering. It is about pushing their agenda of doing whatever you want without any consequences above anyone and anything else. Millions of murdered babies are left in the wake. Millions of mothers are left devastated.

And shouting the story out on social media doesn’t change the past. It doesn’t heal the hurt of the babies who have been sacrificed or the hurt of the mothers who are struggling with the weight of their choices.

Bristol Palin, Patheos 33 Comments [9/27/2015 4:22:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 113148

Bill Nye to Feature in Upcoming Religious Movie

I recently blogged about Bill Nye’s upcoming book Unstoppable. Well, in addition to his new book, Bill Nye “the Science Guy” is also reportedly going to be featured in a documentary about his life and work. One website describes the documentary as “a film for science. A film for the cosmos. The full access, exclusive film about Bill Nye.” Really it should be called “a film for the religion of naturalism. A film to promote worship of the cosmos. An exclusive film about the very religious Bill Nye.” Yes, it will be a religious film!

The documentary, which was trying to raise $650,000 on Kickstarter, has raised far more than the goal. Now, Kickstarter campaigns may give rewards out to those who back a project, with better rewards for those who donate more. I found it humorous how one of the rewards—for those who gave $20 or more towards this project—is “BILL'S HAND WRITTEN NOTES FROM THE 'HAMM [sic] ON NYE DEBATE’ Own a special piece of history with a PDF of Bill's handwritten notes from the epic debate in Kentucky with creationist Ken Hamm [sic].” So they will give you Bill Nye’s notes from our 2014 debate if you donate, but I have not seen Nye actively directing people to the free YouTube video of the unedited debate (with the exception of placing it in the video section of his billnye.com website) or the DVD (which he has the rights to use). Maybe he doesn’t want people to actually watch the debate because then they will be exposed to the truth of creation and the gospel of Jesus Christ! And I’m sure Bill doesn’t want people to watch and understand the word science, and the difference between historical science (e.g., Bill’s beliefs about origins based on the religion of naturalism) and observational science, which builds the incredible technology we have today. If you haven’t viewed the debate video already, then I encourage you to watch it at this link. Note that we are not afraid or ashamed in any way to encourage everyone to watch the video of the debate. I challenge Bill Nye to tell people to do the same—or even sell the DVD of the debate as we do and keep the proceeds.

Now, we don’t know what information will be included in the upcoming documentary about Bill Nye, but it’s likely that the film will be full of evolutionary teaching—all part of the religion of naturalism (atheism). As Christians, we need to be equipped to answer the questions that will inevitably arise from those who view the documentary. And we can use this coming documentary as a way of opening the door for conversation about the nature of science, creation/evolution, the age of the Earth, biblical authority, and, of course, the gospel. I encourage you, if you haven’t already, to order a copy of the in-depth look at the debate, Inside the Nye/Ham Debate, which I coauthored with my son-in-law Bodie Hodge. This book is an excellent resource to help you engage with the common objections to biblical creation and common arguments for evolutionary ideas. And I’m sure that the same old empty arguments Bill Nye brought up in the debate will be featured in the movie.

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying,
Ken

This item was written with the assistance of AiG’s research team.

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 31 Comments [9/27/2015 4:22:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 113147

The Left has vanquished America—the gaseous media strumpets and their papal “experts” certainly give that impression, in their coverage of the arrival of Pope Francis. One of these venal types on CNN has just ventured that Pope John Paul criticized capitalism as much as he did communism, therefor justifying Pope Francis’ folly.

Sacrilegious nonsense.

Capitalism is the moral right to make a living freely and voluntarily, absent coercion, and by relying on the rule of law and the sanctity of private property, the latter beginning with individual self-ownership:

This philosophical, moral wonder has lifted millions out of poverty.

Now capitalism is being juxtaposed to a system chosen by leading lights like Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot, to best justify the centrally planned slaughter of over 100 million people the world over and the enslaving of many more.
If this is not yet more proof that the Left has vanquished America, I don’t know what is.

Ilana Mercer, Barely a Blog 27 Comments [9/26/2015 11:54:10 AM]
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Quote# 113146

The black and arab lads are fucking French girls liek crazy. Boatloads everyday. There is a record number of Mulatto and Halfarab francais. French women love that black and moslem cuk. Mandingos and Young Abdullahs give the women the francaise tizzles.

European women love Afreakan cock in general. If a bunch afreaken men went to Europe, each would be fuking 2+ Euro women per day. Lucky lads, getting the mandingo treatment.

SteelersRock, r/AsianMasculinity 29 Comments [9/26/2015 10:30:09 AM]
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Quote# 113144

I will remain Catholic. That said, this pope is anti-Catholic. What a disgrace.

billys kid, Free Republic 32 Comments [9/26/2015 4:14:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 113142

Psychiatrist Alex Sharah, who compared lesbians to paedophiles, disqualified.




A mother who had a stillborn baby was spoken to about abortion, a Muslim woman was blessed with holy water, an alcoholic was advised to connect with Jesus and a depressed young woman was told to pray.

Psychiatrist Alexander Anthony Sharah, 80, has been disqualified from registering as a medical practitioner after inappropriate treatment of patients, having also compared lesbians to paedophiles, because both "don't know that they are doing something wrong so we still have to love them".

In a decision handed down on Wednesday, the Civil and Administrative Tribunal rebuked Mr Sharah – a former candidate for the Christian Democratic Party – for encouraging his patients to explore religion to ease their mental health problems.

The decision said: "More than one of the patients referred to the displays of religious objects and material in his waiting room and consulting room, something which, in our view, is clearly inappropriate.
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"[Mr Sharah] was indifferent, we consider, to whether patients might find unwelcome and confronting references to the power of prayer, religious beliefs and gestures that had religious symbolism, such as clasping hands and presenting crucifixes."

Mr Sharah? is also a "figurehead" in the Men's Justice Movement, which believes the Family Court favours women over men after marriage breakdowns.

One woman, known as Patient D, sought treatment from Mr Sharah for post-traumatic stress disorder, after her son was stillborn during an induced birth at 22 weeks, due to the baby's serious heart condition.

During two consultations in July 2013, Mr Sharah said her son was "God's will" and that "God can help you".

Patient D's witness statement said: "After the first consultation, I felt extremely uncomfortable. He had continuously brought up religion. I am not religious in any way, but I was too vulnerable and absolutely petrified of the terrible place I was in emotionally to say anything.

"He also kept using words like 'abortion' and 'termination', which absolutely mortified me, as that was not what we did to our baby boy."

Another woman, known as Patient C, went to Mr Sharah for treatment of bipolar disorder.

During a consultation in December 2012, he used holy water to draw the sign of the cross on her forehead, despite knowing she was a Muslim, and prayed while standing over her.

"Clearly the conduct ... was inappropriate and was magnified in its inappropriateness, when the patient was an adherent of a non-Christian faith."

The commission found complaints of professional misconduct against Mr Sharah proven, and also made findings of impairment and incompetence.

Mr Sharah cannot reapply for registration for at least two years.



Alex Sharah, "Psychiatrist", Sydney Morning Herald 19 Comments [9/26/2015 4:14:12 AM]
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Quote# 113141

1MM suspects there are going to be a lot of shocked moms and dads when they discover that the family-friendly Muppets of the 1970s are no more. It appears that no subject is off limits. ABC's new Muppet Show, airing on Tuesday evenings at 8:00 pm ET/7:00 pm CT, is not what Jim Henson imagined and created. The new show is aimed at a mature, modern audience and addresses subjects not suitable for family viewing.

"It's sort of an adult Muppet show," Kermit the Frog said during a promotional video for the show. One ad read, "Finally, a network TV show with full frontal nudity." Technically, the advertisement is correct – seeing how Kermit doesn't wear pants.

The mature version of "The Muppets" will cover a range of topics from sex to drugs. Miss Piggy came out as a pro-choice feminist during an MSNBC interview. The puppet characters loved by kids in the 1970s and 1980s and beyond are now weighing in on abortion and promiscuity.

ABC hopes children watch the show and predict they would enjoy some of the humor, but 1MM would disagree. It is not the show it once was. ABC has ruined "The Muppets." How many parents want to explain the punchline of sexually charged jokes to young children?

Many parents unknowingly will let their children watch an episode only to find out its perverted nature too late, unless they are alerted ahead of time. 1MM and others need to get the word out to families to avoid this program at all costs. Please forward this to everyone you know!

Meanwhile, parents will have to explain to confused children that the program they once were allowed to watch is no longer a nice show. This would have been completely unnecessary if ABC had made the program follow its original family-friendly design.

Take Action

Please use the information we have provided to contact ABC (owned by Disney) and strongly encourage the network to drop all plans to air the program.

One Million Moms, One Million Moms 39 Comments [9/26/2015 4:14:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas