Quote# 122738

Hammer therapy and female organ transplant clones

It is known that incels are angry/unstable/depressed/stressed because of inceldom. I came up with a solution to that. Incels should first sleep then bash the heads of brain-dead female clones in for therapeutic purposes. This should be called hammer therapy. This way we would get to release our hate against females without harming other people. The clones would be made braindead so no harm would come to another person and we would get our revenge from the female gender because they doomed us to the incel fate. After the incels bashed the heads of the female clones in with hammers their organs will be used for people who wait for organ transplants. We will be the executioners for organ transplant clones. These braindead female clones would help society and incels way more than actual females. Nothing would get wasted and all problems would get solved.

SaintElliot, /r/IncelHeaven 17 Comments [11/30/2016 6:01:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 122735

Pop quiz: what is it called when one of the finest minds of a generation picks a few individuals who are personally involved in the destruction of the environment (a timber-industry lobbyist) or of the attention span and reasoning ability of tens of thousands of Americans (an advertising executive), and kills or maims them in the pursuit of finding a voice for his concerns about social issues . . . concerns that otherwise would be heard by very few? Clearly, it is murder.

And what is it called when a nation of overweight barbers and underpaid clerks, of lazy unemployed middle class intellectuals and talk-show-educated housewives, of cowardly fast-food-chin managers and racist sorority girls, conspires to execute this murderer in the name of protecting the glorious status quo from his obviously deranged "mad bombings"?

The death penalty. And rightly applied, too, in defense of the right of forest clear-cutters and professional liars to continue bending our world to their vision without the danger of being molested by those who prefer redwood forests to Quik-Marts and sonnets to detergent slogans.

Seriously, and rhetoric aside, what is the difference between the two situations? In one case, a single person evaluates his situation and decides upon a course of action he feels is right. In the other case, millions of people, who are not very used to making up their minds by themselves, feel strong enough all together to strike out blindly against an individual who does not remain within their boundaries of acceptable behavior.

Now, our gentle and moderate reader would no doubt like to object that it is not fear of the free-standing individual that prompts the outcry against this terrorist, but moral indignation—for he has taken "innocent" life in his quest to have his ideas heard, and that is wrong in every situation.

But this nation of petty imbeciles is not regularly outraged about the taking of innocent life: as long as it fits within the parameters of the status quo, they don't care at all.

How many more people than the Unabomber have tobacco companies maimed and killed, by using advertising to addict them at a very young and uninformed age to an extremely harmful drug? How about the companies that advertise and sell cheap liquor in impoverished neighborhoods filled with alcoholics? How many citizens of third world nations have suffered and died at the hands of governments supported by such corporations as Pepsi Co., or even by the U.S. government itself? And how much animal life is destroyed thoughtlessly every year, every day in death camp factory farms... or in ecological destruction brought about by such companies as Exxon (our reader will remember the Valdez) or McDonalds (one of the better known destroyers of the rainforest)? No one is particularly concerned about these abuses of "innocent" life.

And indeed, it is harder to be, for they are institutionalized within the social and economic system... "normal." Besides, it is hard to figure out who exactly is responsible for them, for they are the results of the workings of complicated bureaucracies.

On the other hand, when one individual attempts to make his criticism of these destructive systems heard by the only really effective means, it is easy to pick him out and string him up. And our hypocritical outrage about his wrongdoings compared those of our own social institutions shows that it is his ability to act upon his own conclusions that truly shocks and frightens us most of all.

Our fear of the Unabomber as a freely acting individual shows in the attempts our media has made to demonize him. Details of his life, such as his academic achievements and his ability to live a Thoreauan self-sufficient existence, that would normally occasion praise, are now used to demonstrate that he is a maladjusted freak. Random and unimportant details of his life, similar to details of any of our lives, such as failed love affairs and childhood illnesses, are used to explain his "insane behavior." In speaking thus, the press suggests that there is no question at all that his actions were the result of insanity, pulling away in terror from the very thought that he might be just as rational as they. Newspapers print the most arbitrary and disconnected excerpts of his manifesto that they can combine, and they describe the manifesto as being random and disconnected—they even describe it as "ramblings" with a straight face, despite the well-known short attention span of today's media.

But it is not necessary that we accept the media's typical over-simplification of the case. The Unabomber's manifesto has, as a result of his efforts, been published and widely distributed. We can all read it for ourselves, not just in disconnected excerpts, but in its entirety, and decide for ourselves what we think of his ideas.

Do not be frightened by the Unabomber's willingness to stand out from the crowds and take whatever actions he believes are necessary to achieve his goals. In a civilization so stricken with mindless submission to social norms and irrational rules his example should be refreshing rather than horrifying; for his worst crimes are no worse than ours, in being citizens of this nation... and his greatest deeds as a dedicated and intelligent individual far outshine those of most of our heroes, who are for the most part basketball players and cookie-cutter pop musicians anyway.

At least, given the chance as we are, we should read his manifesto and come to our own conclusions, rather than allowing the press and popular opinion/paranoia to decide for us.

Crimethinc, Crimethinc 7 Comments [11/30/2016 6:00:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Dr. Killjoy

Quote# 122732

Oregon Labor Commish who fined Christian baker $135K just got some sweet justice

It wasn’t just Hillary Clinton that was humiliated on election day. Sure, her devastating loss had the biggest impact because she was running for president, but there is one other person I’m glad suffered the same defeat: Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian.

Most have never heard of him or have already forgotten what he did, but not Aaron and Melissa Klein, the Oregon bakers and owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa. They were the ones who caused liberals’ heads to explode for living out their Christian beliefs and practicing their First Amendment rights. To quickly recap, the Kleins had no problem serving gay customers, but when a lesbian couple wanted a cake to celebrate their commitment ceremony, the Kleins politely declined due to their convictions on traditional marriage. The uproar aimed at their business by angry progressives caused them to have to shutter the doors. Aaron went from business owner to garbage man almost overnight just to make ends meet.

Adding insult to injury, Avakian’s labor bureau seized the Klein’s bank accounts and forced them to pay the lesbian couple $135,000 for “emotional suffering.” It’s important to be reminded of all of this to understand why his defeat is so sweet.

From The Weekly Standard:

Avakian had his eye on higher office. It was very likely the case that Avakian saw the publicity surrounding his draconian treatment of the Kleins as a launching pad for his campaign to become Oregon’s secretary of state. From there it would have been a short hop to governor.

But it didn’t work out that way. Avakian didn’t just lose his race—it was the first statewide victory for a Republican in the now-solidly blue Beaver State in 14 years. A Republican hadn’t been elected secretary of state since 1980. Compounding Avakian’s humiliation, Hillary Clinton won the state by 10 points. Merely having a “D” by his name should have dragged him across the finish line.

But it didn’t. He was put out to pasture not only by a worthy Republican opponent, Dennis Richardson but also thanks to his aggressive liberal tyranny that was solidly rejected by Oregonians. As TWS noted:

The limits of bake-me-a-cake-or-else liberalism have now been revealed. The sooner Democrats come to grips with the unpopularity of their punitive social crusades, the better off their party—and our country—will be.

Most Americans are just fine allowing bakers to run their businesses as they see fit. Christian bakers have the right to refuse to make a cake for a gay wedding just as much as a gay bakery has the right to refuse a cake for a straight marriage. No offense necessary. People have the right to take their business elsewhere. This isn’t something the government should force or penalize; it should be the small business owner’s decision!

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Bristol Palin, Patheos 13 Comments [11/30/2016 5:58:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 122731

Before I get into the heart of this article, I want to say this: The LGBT has an agenda, and it's not what you think it is.

The documentary below, 'Inside the Homosexual Agenda' gives a revealing look into their motives, and serves as a good starting point to understand the information I'm going to discuss below...

You may not be aware of this, but just about everything, and I mean nearly EVERYTHING you see on TV, in movies, in magazines, in the fashion world, and in music, has been controlled by the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) community since the 1970's if not earlier.

Through their monopolization of the media, LGBTs have charmed their way into our homes, into our mindsets, into our religious views and into our sex lives. The seduction was overt.

EVERYTHING IN THE MEDIA OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS has blurred the line between true masculinity and femininity: effeminate (girly) men and mannish (boyish) women. Nearly every show in the 1990's gave a manufactured glimpse into gay and lesbian 'love.' Pushing same-sex intimacy as normal, we were told that they were born that way, and that everyone needs to embrace their latent same-sex attraction.

LGBT SEDUCTION OF CHILDREN OCCURRED THROUGH the most popular children and family shows: The Odd Couple, Three's Company, Bosom Buddies, Laverne & Shirley, Three Men and a Baby, Full House, Roseanne, The Real World, Beverly Hills 90210, Xena, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Dawson's Creek, Frasier, Ellen, Spongebob & Glee. Within these family shows, LGBTs used an overwhelming number of suggestive images, subliminal messages and in many cases direct promotion of gay & lesbian intimacy.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but don't let the LGBT's rainbow fool you; the pot of gold at the end of their rainbow is fool's gold. They've simply used the rainbow imagery to lure children into their grasp.

Behind the scenes, LGBTs are violent. They physically attack anyone who doesn't agree with them, they bully and intimidate anyone and even elderly women are not exempt.

The LGBT's main goal was and always has been to have sex with children. And what better way to accomplish their goal than by indoctrinating impressionable-developing minds with a sympathetic heart and a curiosity about gay and lesbian relationships and sex.

The LGBT knew that once they sparked a young child's interest, they can almost guarantee that the child will then seek out and welcome older LGBT people to explore their sexuality with.

The LGBT is ultimately a predator, spearheaded by white affluent gay men. These white gay men have been systematically at the root of this seduction of children, mainly boys.

Below you will find a 1967 Mike Wallace documentary titled 'The Homosexuals,' that shows the true face of the LGBT movement.

AS YOU CAN SEE, the gay movement used willful lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people as an elaborate front to hide behind. They knew as white gay men, they could never argue for civil rights issues, so they let lesbian women and minority gays, black gay men and black lesbian women, to join their team. Without having women and minorities included in the gay initiative, they knew no one would ever view homosexuality as a Civil Rights issue. They also knew that once they got the Civil Rights label, they could get ANY homosexual law passed, gay sex, education at school, gay adoption etc.

Many of the gay men in the LGBT community, are also a part of pedophile & pederasty organization called North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). This association seeks to abolish the age of consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with children, and campaigns for the release of all men who have been jailed for sexual contact with children.

I was disgusted when I learned this. The LGBT alliance with pedophiles was confirmed in the 1979 National march on Washington for Lesbian and Gay rights program. In this document, the LGBT community welcomed pederasts (men who engage in anal intercourse with boys) and pubescents (young teenage children). [...]

Remember: a pederast is a man that has anal intercourse with boys. Now why would the LGBT community welcome them if they didn't endorse pedophilia?

In recent years, the LGBT community claimed to not condone pedophilia, but their willful allegiance was documented. They've creatively repackaged their pedophile allegiance into gay adoption, the anti-bully campaign, the labelling of any and all anti-homosexuality comments into hate speech, and their desire to lower the age of consent for teenagers to engage in same-sex relationships with adults.

As previously stated, the original face of the gay movement was white affluent gay men. They knew that they couldn't easily access boys (the American public wasn't having it), so they settled for men for the time being. But as you can see clearly above, they had boys as their prime target all along.

The founders of the gay movement have systematically and legally used the media and the legal system to get closer to being able to legally have sex with boys.

Well known actor Corey Feldman gives a candid interview about the predatory habits of pedophiles behind the media industry.

I want to caution you: Each law you allow to pass for the LGBT community, the closer you allow pedophile and pederasty organizations like NAMBLA and Butterfly Kisses(female pedophiles) to molest children, even your own children.

We have allowed them to seduce and create a generation of young people who willingly agree to be sexually abused. One day, these children who 'think' they are LGBT, will push for the government to allow them to have the legal right to participate in homosexual and lesbian sex, all under the guise of being 'born' attracted to the same-sex.

And meanwhile in the background, groups like NAMBLA and Butterfly Kisses, along with other LGBT groups, will be silently waiting to have consensual sex with the very children they've seduced through all sorts of media.

THE MORE RIGHTS GIVEN TO THE LGBT, the more perverse our society will get. Before you know it, you will have a man with real-life breast having sex on primetime TV. And then you will have to explain to your child that some MEN have breasts too... see how sick that is?

Don't our children deserve to maintain their innocence? Why do we continue to allow them to be sexualized with this type of media?

We have allowed a small group of people, less than 4% of the total United States population, to dictate to the rest of us 96% about how to teach and raise our children.

Nya Nya Jo, Eden Decoded 6 Comments [11/30/2016 5:57:38 AM]
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Quote# 122730

A court in Germany has ruled that the parents of a 15 year old girl cannot stop her from continuing a sexual relationship with her 47 year old uncle that she started when she was just 14.

...

While this may seem like a rare victory for the sexual rights of post-pubescent females and their older male lovers, we can be certain that the controversy of this case will be used by femihags in Germany to further push for the age of consent to be raised to 16 or even 18. Already, after recent ‘strengthening’ of German age of consent laws, a female who had sex at 14 or 15 and regretted it has the right to pursue child abuse charges against her former partner – something no doubt likely in this case when the girl is gotten too by the pressure of the media and feminists, or if she ever breaks up with her older lover and decides to redefine her love for him as victimhood.

theantifeminist, Anti-Feminist Theory of Men's Rights, Male Sexuality, Feminism 21 Comments [11/30/2016 5:57:02 AM]
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Quote# 122725

TECHNOLOGY is the biggest sin of humanity to God

People/who do not know God/ tried to kill God in the 17th century.

And for that, they have used weapons, called the 'science', ' humanism' and 'enlightment' and more.

They lifted his faces from the sky and stands on the earth. They forgot God.

they made the human 'god', they made the god ' man'.

The church has been reduced to a ridiculous situation in the shadow of the brutalized people.

We made the nature a disgrace.

We putted concrete idols(skyscrapers, roads and etc), we got ourselves trapped in them.

We left the horses. So we lost our vitality and aggression.

When we acted like God, we lost our souls.

İts the biggest sin. Noboby remember God anymore.

Technology is the sin.

christ, Godlike Productions 13 Comments [11/30/2016 5:52:59 AM]
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Quote# 122724

The Stupid-Moon (sorry, supermoon) is over, but I wonder how many human sacrifices were performed. How many more disappeared into oblivion. How many more sold their souls to the Devil in exchange for power, money and fame. I’ve been doing research on satanic rituals, and boy has it opened my eyes! That’s some sordid, horrific, Bible-condemning stuff! We are in the battle for our lives, fellow Christian! But it will soon be over, because JESUS will come and we will be with Him forever and ever.

kingjameswriter1965, I Hate The Internet But I Love Jesus 10 Comments [11/30/2016 5:52:49 AM]
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Quote# 122668

[on the abolisment of the gay panic defense]

As an example, I can show you how I will be downvoted for saying that the gay panic defense is perfectly valid reason to reduce a murder charge.

If a gay man came on to me heavily and I was drunk, I would probably lash out at him.

See, gay panic.

magurney, Reddit 12 Comments [11/30/2016 5:50:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 122244

Person A: I´m a stalinist pro-gulag communist so i wanted to ask you comrades about how much truth is behind all these labour-camp stories in the DPRK. I have heard south koreans get paid by the CIA for talking some fairytales of how they fled the DPRK.
Sources?

Person B: Even if there are gulags in the DPRK, the capitalists that are in it deserve it.

Person C: Why are people so fucking obsessed with a few prison tents in North Korea? You have fucking massive prisons the size of the entire fucking towns and cities in the USA, the US mega gulag prison industrial complexes, thousands of these all across the country, with over 2.3 million in prison, with several million more going in and out, for some of the most bullshit most ridiculous charges.

Person A: No my problem are not the gulags themselves, my problem is that there are those stories which just cannot be true like imprisoning the whole family because one of them did sth. The people interviewed must be payed by the CIA but i just cannot find some sources

Person C: Of course, I agree with you. The stories about North Korean prison tents are bogus propaganda. But on the other hand, if you look at the US, they really have a problem, a massive and gross human rights problem with their massive prison and justice system, injustices that parallels no other country in the world, and along with that a hyprocrisy and narcissim that parallels no other other country in the world. Before Americans especially their media and journos and the American human rights industrial complexes with their many fraudulent human rights groups and activisits go shouting and screaming about human rights issues in some other X country, they should be really looking themselves in the mirror.

Person A: but i am not talking about the US i am talking about the DPRK. The interviews exist and as long as we cannot prove them wrong we will have to face this topic when discussing with a western liberal.
I would personly throw reactionaries and criminals into a cold gulag where they do sth for society but never the family members and i cannot imagine this to be happening in best Korea.

Person C: Well, a lot of the western liberals are American. and Americans don't want to discuss their own problems, they rather invent some shit in some other country to divert their attention or use it as a pretext to start illegal wars or illegal invade or overthrow leaders in other countries. I think it's important to bring this up, to show the major hypocrisy and major narcissism of western liberals especially Americans. because it can cost millions of lives.

Person D: The prison camp system in the DPRK is a lie perpetrated by the Western Media and their handlers in the CIA and if it isn't a lie then it's good and justified.

Various communists, Facebook 3 Comments [11/30/2016 5:48:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 120648

Why does God let children die of cancer?



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Why does God let children die of cancer? To answer this question we need to understand some fundamental truths about how this world works.

THE INJUSTICE OF DISEASE

Why does it feel so wrong to us when a child slowly wastes away with disease? There are many reasons. It goes against the natural order of things: children aren’t supposed to die before their parents. It also hurts us and we hate things that cause us pain. We think that the things that hurt us must be evil, therefore cancer is evil. Who do we associate with evil? Satan, of course, therefore Satan is to blame for cancer. This is the theological trail many Christians go down: they end up blaming Satan or else they sigh heavily and say “It’s a fallen world.” Still others personify the disease itself and treat it like a conscious being. “#&%$@ cancer!” is a phrase we see posted on internet profiles by those who are feeling frustrated and helpless as their loved ones suffer in front of them. But is cussing out cancer really getting us anywhere? And is plastering colored ribbons all over the earth really rushing us towards a cure? Suppose they found a cure for all cancers tomorrow and began passing it out for free in every country. Do you know what would happen? A new, nastier, scarier disease would suddenly spring up in our midst. Why is this? Because the One who created this world wants disease to be a part of it.

THE ORIGIN OF DISEASE

The way Christians try to blame everything on the Fall is ridiculous. When we talk like Eve sent the universe spinning out of control the moment she bit into the fruit, we are completely denying what is right in front of our eyes. We need to start back at the beginning of Genesis and try again. No one forced God to curse Adam and Eve with pain, hardship, and physical death. He came up with the idea of making our lives a trial all on His own because this planet was always intended to be a place in which we grow through suffering. So what does this tell us about God? Is He some kind of ogre? No, He’s not. But from our perspective, His methods can seem very cruel.

GOD’S PRIORITIES

In order to understand why God inflicts kids with cancer, we need to understand what His priorities are. Keeping us comfortable, happy and healthy while we are on this earth is not at the top of His list of important things. If He had wanted this place to be a perpetual paradise He would have made it one. Instead, He made Heaven a paradise and arranged for almost our entire existence to be there, provided we properly submit to Him (see Understanding Salvation: Meeting the Demands of Three Gods). We’re only on this earth for a brief blip of time, and while we are here, we are supposed to be growing closer to God. Everything that He does to us down here is with our spiritual best in mind. That includes inflicting children with malignant tumors.

Whenever we find ourselves feeling enraged about some form of suffering, it is because we’ve zoomed the lens in far too close. When we get upset about kids dying of cancer, we are only thinking of ourselves and our immediate earthly happiness. We’re not considering the long-term view. We’re putting the temporary above the eternal in value and worth. God does just the opposite. He says the eternal health of souls is far more important than our momentary sorrow on earth. We say pain is pointless. He says pain is a catalyst for causing great change in people’s hearts. We see a child suffering and say that God is cruel. He sees one child’s experience affecting hundreds of lives and shocking souls out of a fatal stagnation. God hurts us in order to heal us. Everything He does is for our best, but too often we refuse to put any trust in His motives, even though He has proven Himself to be infinitely more loving, faithful, and wise than we are.

No one is more dedicated to the well-being of humans than the One who created them in the first place. This world isn’t something that God stumbled upon one day and took a mild interest in. We are His carefully crafted, intricate masterpieces. He hovers over us constantly, meticulously arranging every detail of our lives. Tumors don’t just happen to people because of bad genes or exposure to toxins. God creates tumors in bodies with the same precision as He creates all of our internal organs. Tumors grow because He makes them grow. They are detected late because He blocks us from finding them early. They are cured because He cures them, and they kill us because He wants them to. God works through medicines, doctors, and a host of other things, yet we must not get so focused on His methods that we miss seeing Him. No child comes down with cancer by random chance or because God abandoned them to the clutches of Satan. God personally selects all the victims of cancer with great care, and it is not because He hates them or is just trying to punish someone.

THE FATHER OF OUR CHILDREN

All children belong to God. He is their true Guardian and when He involves us in their care it’s understood that it will only be for a temporary amount of time. At some point, He takes all of His children back again to an eternal dimension where He parents them directly. On earth, we human parents are simply mediators whose primary job is to teach children who their eternal Father is. Sometimes He gives us a lifetime to love and care for His children on earth. Other times, He reclaims them after only a few years. Do we really have the right to accuse God of being unfair in taking back what is rightfully His? Yes, it hurts terribly, and we shouldn’t pretend otherwise. But to tell God that He was wrong to take what His own hands have made—well, that simply doesn’t work. Other souls are not our property.

DEATH

From God’s perspective, no one dies prematurely and no one dies late. We say they do because we have preconceived notions about how long people should live. We’ve decided that there’s a rule that all children are supposed to outlive their parents. God never gave us any such guarantee. We’ve decided that anyone who dies from diseases or violence has been cheated. This simply isn’t true. God is clear that He predetermines the number of days that each soul will live on this earth, and no one fails to complete their full assignment. This is because no one can end a life without God’s cooperation. He alone has the power to separate soul from body, and to withdraw the breath of life that He put into us.

Humans try desperately to control the lifespan of themselves and others, yet God says that no one can do anything without His cooperation. We can plot and scheme all day, yet it is God who ultimately decides whether our plans fly or flop. We come up with new miracle drugs for cancer, yet it is God who decides who they work on. Some survive chemo, others die from it. Some are cured and stay cured, while others get constant recurring growths. Why is every case so different? Why can’t we find a formula that always works? Because God is involved. He has a far more important goal in mind than curing our physical bodies. He is after our souls.

GETTING OUR ATTENTION

God wants creatures who willingly choose Him, He doesn’t want robots. So while He controls every atom in existence, He also gives us some degree of choice. On a soul level, we are given the option to accept or reject Him. God wants His relationship with us to be a two-way street, not something He rams down our throats. He then spends our whole lives arranging events and experiences that will entice us to seek Him out. What happens when we see a child dying in front of us? We start asking why. We start looking for a cosmic source of justice. We start wondering if life really is some random set of coincidences, or if there could be some purpose to it all. We reevaluate our own lives and wonder if we’re really living for what is important. When the child dies, we look for some external source of comfort that can fill the void in our hearts. We wonder what our child found on the other side of death. We wonder what we will find when our turn comes.

It is when we feel helpless and distressed that we remember God. Too often that is the only time we remember Him. If we had our way, we’d erase all pain from this world and thereby take away one of God’s most effective means of securing our attention. Then we’d all become completely self-absorbed and totally ignore His existence. Does God smile on this plan? Not hardly. Our Creator loves us too much to let us walk away from Him without a fight. He will do anything it takes to intensify our interest in Him

God is the One who makes pain feel stronger when children are involved. Any good parent would much rather suffer themselves than watch their children suffer. This is the way it is supposed to be. God has set up levels of suffering on this earth. All trials are not equal. Some we can easily cope with, others temporarily devastate us. God inflicts children with incurable tumors when He has determined that only extreme measures will accomplish the soul changes He is after. It doesn’t always mean people are fighting Him. Sometimes there is no rebellion at all, yet God has decided it is time to push souls on to the next level of maturity. In every case, He carefully arranges which lives will cross paths, and the intensity of each person’s exposure to the suffering child. Some will sit at the bedside in hospitals, up close to the agony, while others will only receive brief updates through the internet. Every position is carefully arranged by God to spark conversations between Him and us. When a friend of ours is hurting, our natural instinct is to pray for them and tell God to stop doing what He’s doing. Our advice is utterly useless, and our wishes often misguided, but by getting us to talk to Him, God hopes that we’ll be willing to do some listening as well. He has things He wants to teach us in these moments. He isn’t just stirring us up so we can tell Him how to better run His universe. If we want to grow from these experiences, we must be willing to let God lead us instead of trying to lead Him.

When souls cooperate with God beautiful things happen. We change into something better than we were before. Our trust in God deepens. Our perspective of life shifts closer to the eternal viewpoint. Our priorities improve. Even if the changes are only temporary, they are worth it, for we will be all the swifter to respond to Him the next time a crisis arises. It is only when we close our hearts to God that we stagnate. When we demand healing, and even threaten to walk away from Him unless He gives us what we want, we only end up harming ourselves. God is not going to take orders from us. He will continue to do what He knows is best for hundreds of people, even though we selfishly demand that He care only about our personal pain.

If we are to thrive through suffering, we must recognize that there is a bigger picture involved. God is a multitasker who is always accomplishing many things at once. Yes, our suffering matters to Him very much, but to ask Him to stop caring about every other soul who is being positively affected by our pain is going too far. Instead of accusing God of being cruel, we need to give Him the trust He deserves. God knows what is best for us. As parents, we should be well acquainted with the principle that what a child needs is not always what a child will enjoy receiving. It is the same with us and God. He has promised to do what is best for us, even when it requires some misery on our part. The question now becomes, are we going to trust His judgment? Or are we going to insist that we know better than He does and wallow in self-pity? If we are wise, we will not go through life defining ourselves by the pain we have gone through, and the loved ones we have lost. Instead, we will let pain accomplish its good work in us and then let it go. In this world, God uses evil to bring about a greater good. If we align with His Spirit, He will teach us how to thrive through all forms of suffering.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 5 Comments [11/30/2016 5:32:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 120437

Why condemn paedophilia? Has the Bangkok Post started a puritanical-based moral crusade against the very common sexual habits of our community, be it by adults or children? The many prominent writings about paedophiles, parents and other people molesting and abusing children, seem to point that way.Moral crusaders have been with society for as long as society has existed. Every now and then we're exposed to the protuberant projections of the moral standards of do-gooders, lesbian liberals and religious fanatics. Besides having to endure these groups, we have to endure the often self-appointed psychological and physiological experts who like to categorise human behaviour when they should know better. No two humans are alike physically or mentally, which is the first thing they learn when they take up studies of human behaviour.What makes subjects like pornography, paedophilia and sexual behaviour in general so noteworthy all of a sudden? Civilisation, culture and religious beliefs have shaped not only our views but also our habits, customs, practice, fashion, mode, morals and manners of sexual conduct. The rules and laws of what is permitted, what can be toleratedand what is unwanted and should be suppressed has changedthroughout history with cycles of over-indulgence and widetolerance alternating with sanctimonious and often dogmaticrepressive inhibition of sexual customs. It has all been there for millennia and has been very well recorded throughout history, dating back from ancient Egyptian and Mesopotamian times to the Greco-Roman era.

Paedophilia and sexual practice between adults, children andhomosexuals in ancient Greek and Roman times were quitenormal and so was it in certain periods of the Chinese, Moguland Ottoman dynasties - all of which have provided us with oftenvery accurate descriptions of the sex life they were leading.Artefacts in stone and pictures bearing witness to the time'ssexual indulgence or its repression can be found practicallyeverywhere.

So what is new this time? Paedophiles and homosexuals havealways been there. The moralists and do-gooders among ustaking the moral high ground thunder from their pulpits, quotingscriptures and using the media against the present sexualbehaviour in general, seeing evil when there is none. They areunable to tolerate happiness if it is not of their own kind. What is all this talk about child abusers, paedophiles and sexwith children? According to reliable research and records, ourchildren indulge in a variety of sex from the age of eight to fullsexual activity at the tender age of 12-13.

Who are they doing it with? Well, it often starts with theirbrothers and sisters in their own homes and goes on at full swingwhen they have a crush on a classmate and they start petting inearnest. With the desire aroused, they want to experience whatthey by then know is a pleasure and they do it quite often andeven regularly.

The myth that our children are innocent until they reach the ageof consent is just wishful thinking. Ninety-nine-point-nine percentof our girls and boys lose their virginity not to paedophiles but totheir own age group, which should be and is for usnormal-thinking parents a quite healthy and acceptable standard.The age when girls lose their virginity in the West ranges between12 and 18. The majority have lost it before they reach 18.

Who do they lose it to? It is to their own age group. A boy aged12 starting petting with a girl of 10 will usually not "deflower" her,but if their relationship lasts a few more years, by the time he is15 he will have done so.

Girls in our present time are looked down upon by their own agegroup if they are still virgins by the time they are 16. Girls in theWest are quite openly proud that they have had full sex at anearly age and so are the boys they're having it with.

This has become a moral dilemma for our anti-sex front. Whatshould they do about, what is in their eyes, very immoralbehaviour? It is breaking the law having sex with children under17, isn't it? So the naughty young boys should be punished, putinto jail for their forbidden sexual pleasures and indulgences. Thelaw is the law, isn't it?

So why punish an older man or woman having sex with children?Is the law selective? Either punish all or none. Our schools wouldbe empty if we started prosecuting our young male offenders.And why single out males for punishment when the female is amore than willing partner? At least 50 percent of all cases offorbidden sexual indulgence start with the seducing performanceof young girls. So where is the justice for them?

The case of girls or boys being abused sexually at home by theirparents or close relatives is a problem of poverty. In Australia,where everyone has a house with three bedrooms and childrensleep separate from their parents, and where girls and boys havetheir own rooms, sexual abuse of children is very rare.

The paedophile problem, if there really is one, is at present tooexaggerated to be believable and, in any case, among 56 millionpeople you have to expect a variety of sexual desires andbehaviours. This is quite normal.

There has been no reliable mental damage recorded in mostsexual relationships between adults and children. Except forrape, the children involved in adult sex have usually consentedand in most cases even found it pleasant and looked for anextending relationship. It is often both the pecuniary reward andthe sexual pleasure which makes them seek adult sex.

To brand paedophile sex as wicked and unnatural is just somuch nonsense. Sex in any form, from the missionary position tooral sex and all the many other deviations, is an absolutelynormal praxis if done voluntarily by two or more consentingpersons. The pleasure of sex is doing no harm to anybody. Thestate and the law should keep out of its citizens' bedrooms.

On the other hand, forced sex is rape and deserves strongpunishment, and females must have the full protection of the law.Paedophile sex is not rape and the protection of children at acertain age (the number of years is debatable) should not singleout adults for punishment when we turn a blind eye to the sexualactivities of children within their own age group.

Consensual sex between children and between children andadults is normal, just as homosexuality is normal. I know this isnot widely accepted and I expect people to condemn it, butsociety will have to put up with it because it just will always bethere.

The do-gooders, the all-too-eager protection organisationsshould learn to understand what sex is, what it does and the factthat it give us humans more enjoyment and happiness than anyother human activity, including religion. So leave it alone, thereare more festering problems like poverty, education, health,children's work, to name only a few, which desperately needyour attention much more then society's sexual behaviour. If sexbrings pleasure to humans there is no damage either mentally orphysically.

Psychological problems start when children are exposed to thewild interrogating methods of do-gooders who spread fear intothe hearts of children who are unable to understand that theirpleasure, which does no harm to anyone, must be punished. Children should be educated early and told of sex's pleasures,and also the risks involved. The forbidden fruit is alwayssweetest and the natural temptations are many.

unknown, www.ageofconsent.com 6 Comments [11/30/2016 5:26:40 AM]
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Quote# 119832

Question: "Does the Bible really say that parents should have their rebellious children stoned?"

Answer: This is one of those “Yes, but…” questions that require serious explaining. Leviticus 20:9 says, “If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his bloodguiltiness is upon him.”

First, a note on the last part of the verse. “His bloodguiltiness is upon him” basically means that he brought this punishment on himself. He knew what he was supposed to do, and he didn’t do it. Also, it is important to remember that the Mosaic Law was for God’s covenant people, Israel, living in a theocracy. The Old Testament Law is not in force today (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23–25; Ephesians 2:15).

Deuteronomy 21:18–21 expands on the law:

If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear.

The context of a passage is crucial to understanding what it means. Taking these two verses by themselves, one could come away with a negative attitude toward God and His Word. In the Leviticus passage, this law is part of a section dealing with egregious sins, sins that would tear a nation and family apart. The trespass in question was not a casual, slip-of-the-tongue curse, but a deep-seated rebellion, an ongoing attitude of hatred that had to be dealt with severely. In other words, the punishment was not for minor infractions but for determined defiance.

There are several things to keep in mind about this particular sin and about the law:

The sin was ongoing and continuous. Deuteronomy 21:18 indicates that the punishment was only meted out after a persistent refusal to heed both father and mother and after all discipline had failed. The parents have tried to deal with their son in a loving, firm way, but nothing worked.

It was deep-seated sin. Verse 20 specifies that the son is stubborn in his rebellion. Not only is he recalcitrant, “he is a glutton and a drunkard.” This is not a case of a child who misses curfew or plays ball in the house. This was a true menace, a child who is causing trouble in society and grieving his parents, possibly to the point of endangering them physically and financially.

The punishment was not an impulsive act of anger or vengeance. Verse 19 says that the city elders had to oversee the case and determine the guilt of the child. It is only after the elders pronounced a sentence of death that the execution could take place. The law did not allow an angry parent to arbitrarily stone a child. A modern equivalent of this is when a parent sees news footage of his child committing a crime and subsequently turns the child in to the police. If parents know their child is acting in a way that endangers society, they are responsible to obey the civil authorities and report the crime.

The punishment was designed to preserve the nation. As verse 21 explains, the reason for this law was to purge evil from society and act as a deterrent to further rebellion. Israel was a nation chosen by God to be holy (Exodus 20:6). God gave the Israelites three types of laws: judicial, moral, and ceremonial. This is a judicial law. A child who was actively and deliberately rejecting the laws of the land needed to be punished judicially.

Which brings us to the last and most important factor:

Rebellion against one’s parents is direct rebellion against God. The 5th Command is to honor one’s father and mother (Exodus 20:12). Parents are a God-ordained authority. Disobedience to parents is disobedience to God (Ephesians 6:1-3). Throughout the Bible, there are only a handful of things we are told to fear: God (Proverbs 1:7) and parents (Leviticus 19:3) are among them.

The law requiring rebellious children to be stoned to death was meant for extreme cases to protect God’s people. It would have been heartbreaking for parents to bear the responsibility of initiating such severe measures. However, the Bible never records this law being enforced.

unknown, got questions 5 Comments [11/30/2016 5:22:45 AM]
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Submitted By: PETF(People eating tasty fundies)

Quote# 119786

The term microaggressions is a good word. I think it is a good explanatory for why a secular society less interested in morality than utility can get exercised over major and public ''sins'' but ignore less obvious, underlying, insipid and indeed personal faults.

Lying, petty prejudice, greed, dishonesty and abuse of power are becoming more acceptable and applauded
and we are left with few unforgiveables against which people can stand themselves against and look and feel like saints and people who don't need much moral introspection.

Vlad and his ilk, Religion and Ethics 2 Comments [11/30/2016 5:20:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 119516

Am I Too Conspiratorial?

I once received an e-mail from one of my website guests which said I was too conspiratorial. As always, I am thankful to my web visitors for their opinions and I am open-minded to any constructive criticism. I am not going to be critical of my guest, not at all. I simply would like to address this issue of being "too conspiratorial" because I believe others may be feeling the same. I have so much to say to you in this dark hour. Please hear me out. Here goes...

I do a lot of reading. When I was younger, I was your typical person who didn't take serious notice of the U.S. Constitution or the Bill of Rights. I couldn't have told you what my rights were if my life had depended upon it. I thought the government was good, judges were all honest and authority was never to be questioned. I had been taught that Republicans were good, and Democrats were bad. As I grew older, I was still your typical person who really didn't care to concern myself with other people's problems. The scandals and government corruption I was hearing about really didn't phase me. I just didn't care one way or the other.

By the way, I was a saved Christian the whole time. I was saved at the age of thirteen. I did care about the things of God, but I felt that anything dealing with the world's problems was their own dilemma, not mine. I would continually vote "Republican" simply because they claimed to be against abortion (what a bunch of liars). In my mind, Republicans were decent conservative people and Democrats were all left-wing liberals. In part, this was because of whitewashing schemes (such as the all-American image painted over Ronald Reagan's presidency to hide his war crimes and betrayal of the American people). I was an idiot, just like many people still are today. Thank God, I woke up!

Before I go any further, I have to make this statement because it is so good. It is a statement by Thomas Jefferson.

"The man who reads nothing is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers."

That is so true! If all you ever do is read the newspaper and listen to the TV, you're going to be a brainwashed fool. Sadly, most people form their opinions based upon information they heard from the TV. I said earlier that I read a lot. I have spent countless thousands-of-dollars for books in my lifetime. I have read many books, searched many websites, watched many videos, and listened to many sermons. I am shocked (to say the least) about the things I have learned. The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know. I can honestly say that the average person today is woefully ignorant of the truth about so many things. Even worse, they don't care! They are like I was years ago. God help us!

As I mentioned, I had always voted Republican because I thought they were against abortion. They lied to the public. Then one day I realized that abortion has remained legal ever since it was federally legalized in the early 1970's. Whether a Democrat or Republican has been in The White House hasn't made a difference, abortion has continued. The Republicans haven't even made a small ripple in the abortion industry. Yes, I say industry. Did you know that the abortion industry SELLS the babies' body parts for money? For $800.00 you can buy an aborted baby's brain. This is no conspiracy theory, it is a documental fact.

Am I too conspiratorial? Let's take a look at the dictionary meaning of a "conspiracy."

Based upon these definitions, we are living in a cesspool of conspiracies. Now let me ask you a question, especially if you claim to be a Christian. How are we supposed to respond to these "conspiracies?" Though most people would like to dismiss them as "conspiracy theories," that is not what God wants us to do about them. We need to look into these matters. Do you know what the smallest Bible in the world is? It is the Bible that most believers live. It is the few pet verses that many believers center their life around, but they never see the other Scriptures in the Bible. You can't just live your life friend on the portions of God's Word that you feel comfortable with. You must obey all of God's Word. There is a verse in the Old Testament which reads...

"Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?"
-Psalm 94:16

I've based much of my website ministry upon this verse. You see friend, part of being a Christian is standing up for what is right. Ephesians 5:11 commands believers to refute (Greek, elencho, meaning, "to expose") all works of darkness. Our duty as Christians is to speak out against evil and the workers of iniquity, and to expose Satan's works of darkness. If the truth offends them, so be it! I value your soul more than I do your friendship.

I admire Pastor Roy Thompson who used to pastor the Cleveland Baptist Church in Ohio for decades. He had a big sign out in front of his church that said, "Abortion is Murder!" Would to God more believers had that type of zeal for truth and righteousness. To our shame (as believers), there are unsaved people doing more to protect our freedoms than we are. Freedom isn't free. Liberty doesn't just happen. The problem is simple... people WON'T CARE until they lose their liberty and freedom, or their children. Oh, then they'll care! What will it take to wake you up?

How about having TSA stick their hands down your pants and grab your genitals?

David J. Stewart, DAVID J. STEWART 6 Comments [11/30/2016 5:16:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 122716

Show me through science how the faith of others in any way proves yours, exploding dots, magically appearing life and all. Then produce some documentation on the last billion years or so.

Evolution is not faith-based. It is science-based. Therefore not a religion - unlike what you choose to follow.

Have a photo of the "common ancestor" or do I have to take it on faith it ever existed like you do?

Sure, I'll present it when you present a photo of your God.

Why is it you blind faith evolutionists have to keep brining up the beliefs of others in some feeble, lame attempt to prove yours? If it's science, show the picture - or do I need to continue to take it on faith?


Oboehner, Christian News Network 23 Comments [11/28/2016 4:23:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 122713

Wayne Allyn Root, the conservative activist and conspiracy theorist who helped Donald Trump campaign in Nevada and became one of Trump’s most enthusiastic boosters on the campaign trail, rejoiced in an interview on Newsmax TV last week that a Trump administration will appoint “people to important positions who have problems with radical Islam instead of people in important positions who are Muslims.”

Discussing Trump’s announcements that he’ll nominate Rep. Mike Pompeo to head the CIA, Root said, “They say [Pompeo’s] problem is he’s been negative toward Muslims and Islamic radicals—my God, that makes America great again! We finally have an administration that can use the word Islam and terrorism in the same sentence, and we’re naming people to important positions who have problems with radical Islam instead of people in important positions who are Muslims!”

When host Bill Tucker asked Root if he meant “all Muslims” or “radical Muslims,” Root replied that “number one, we are at war with radical Islam” but claimed that “the Muslim world in general says nothing” about terrorism.

“There are no real shouts of outrage from the Muslim world, just like there were no shouts of outrage from the German world [during the Nazi era], so therefore they bore some responsibility as well,” he said. “And I’m angry—I won’t hold them as the killers, they don’t need to go to prison, we don’t need internment camps—but I am absolutely angry, shocked and outraged at the Muslim community and I do think they bear some responsibility.”

“There were no Muslim Man Marches in Washington, D.C., to protest terrorism,” he continued. “Why? Why aren’t they speaking up? Just like Nazi Germany, they’re saying nothing. So I do have a problem with Islam. I think the war is against radical Islam, but we have to admit there are problems in general with the religion of Islam, why the people don’t speak up against terrorism.”

Wayne Allen Root, Right Wing Watch 31 Comments [11/28/2016 4:23:34 AM]
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Quote# 122712

Last week, televangelist Jim Bakker reacted to the presidential election results by prophesying that God will punish people who live in counties that voted for Hillary Clinton.

Bakker pointed to a map that showed the results of the election by county and said that “if you live in the blue—any spot that’s blue—I would say, ‘Oh God, help me. Oh God forgive me.’ Because those are the ones who came against the will of God in this election.”

“I just want to tell you, God has spoken to me, I’ve seen under the ground in California, in LA, and God spoke to me that in Los Angeles alone there is going to be such an earthquake come that literally the big buildings will be laying on their sides, all of LA is going to collapse,” he added.

Bakker’s cohost Zach Drew agreed, warning that counties that voted for Clinton will receive God’s judgment: “If you look at California, the east side of California is red by county and the west side is blue. And where do all of the fault lines, where do all the prophetic words happen to plant themselves? It’s on the far-west of the West Coast. It’s the blue. Now you got to understand, judgment is not coming for them because they voted for Hillary Clinton, it’s because they voted for a platform. They voted for a platform that is so incredibly pro-abortion, anti-Bible.”

Jim Bakker, Right Wing Watch 23 Comments [11/28/2016 4:23:10 AM]
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Quote# 122711

It is more truthful and more honest and right as it gets. Your denial is basically just you being in denial.
It takes nothing away from the evidence  that shows there is no 'proof' regarding theories in science and there is no reasoning required as no evidence exists to support it anything but a theory.

You see truth works far better than unsubstantiated theories and people who argue there is evidence for a theory are using more faith than a Christian.

Sassy, Religion and Ethics 13 Comments [11/28/2016 4:23:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 122703

Sadly, after 18 years of marriage, my own wife cut my throat in 2006, turning our marriage license into a weapon. There's no other way to accurately describe it. I didn't want the divorce and tried to stop it (and I have that in writing). Unless you've been betrayed and fed to the wolves by your spouse, you can't even begin to understand the feeling of betrayal, disloyalty and being hated. I overcame the evils of divorce with good, by starting my Soulwinning.info website in May of 2006. My wife abandoned me in March of 2006. I was depressed and sad. So I started a soulwinning website to get even with the Devil (Romans 12:21).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 35 Comments [11/27/2016 5:59:24 AM]
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Quote# 122697

Michele Bachmann On Donald Trump’s Victory: ‘The Lord Did This’

Last night, various Religious Right activists participated in a live election night broadcast organized by Kenneth Copeland Ministries, called “America Stands: Election Coverage in the Spirit of Faith.” Among the hosts were right-wing pseudo-historian David Barton and former Rep. Michele Bachmann, who both handled the duties of announcing state election results as they rolled in.

Once it became undeniably clear that Donald Trump was going to win the election, Bachmann was quick to credit the power of their prayer efforts.

The event was streamed live online, but a portion of it also aired live on Daystar Television, something that Bachmann said directly impacted the result of the election. Showing a graphic from The New York Times that originally showed Hillary Clinton with a strong chance of winning and then gradually showed Trump’s chances increasing as the night’s results rolled in, Bachmann singled out the point where the two lines crossed and noted that that was also the exact moment that their election coverage went live on Daystar.

“We have a prayer room here,” she said, “we had people all across the United States joining with our prayer room here in Dallas in prayer, and look what happened. This was the moment when the whole race broke, when prayer began, when the church came out and then we see a 30-point swing here, a 30-point swing here and now we see the swing to a 95 percent chance of winning Trump, a five percent chance of winning Clinton. It’s phenomenal!”

“Already we know that the glory goes to the God Almighty,” she said, “the God of the Universe, the Sovereign Lord. He is the one who did this for us. He did, because His people got on their knees and cried out to Holy God and said, ‘We can’t go down this road any more, Father, we ask you for your mercy.’ And this is the proof positive of what the Lord did. The Lord did this!

RWW News: Michele Bachmann On Donald Trump's Victory: 'The Lord Did This'

Michele Bachmann, Right Wing Watch 25 Comments [11/27/2016 5:07:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 122692


It is a well known fact that science requires more faith than believing in Jesus Christ.
But we both know that believing in either is a 'choice'.
I say that because if it was not a choice then all would believe or disbelieve.

However, the fact is in ourselves and of ourselves we cannot prove in our own understanding that either is truth.
With Christ it takes the personal commitment of trust and seeking Gods way to know if he is telling the truth and exists.
This we can all come to know personally if true and so truth.
But Science has no way to prove the theories hence they remain so.

You need to remember most of science takes a big leap of faith because no man can prove to himself the 'theories' are solid truths. But in Christ all things can be proved through God.

Sassy, Religion and Ethics 26 Comments [11/26/2016 9:23:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 122691

Within the black magic community there are a select few magicians who work side by side with demons these sorcerers include; David Blaine, Dynamo, Yif, David Copperfield ,Cyril, Derren Brown, and many others. These magicians are out to discredit Jesus Christ and pass him off as a mere magician. These men all sold their soul to possess these demonic powers. This video w

Spy Kitten TV, youtube 16 Comments [11/26/2016 9:23:05 AM]
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Submitted By: PETF

Quote# 122689

If shitlibs don't back off their intensifying anti-White hatred signaling and mental illness, we will have another Civil War.

...

And this time their side will lose.

Chateau Emissary, Twitter 33 Comments [11/26/2016 8:56:39 AM]
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Quote# 122688

[So should Christians stay away from hypnotism?]

Yes. It is a means of opening one's mind to outside influences, who are not limited to the hypnotist.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 13 Comments [11/26/2016 6:46:43 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 122687

The state of Michigan is being sued because several schools in Detroit are failing to teach children how to read, and Gov. Rick Snyder’s team of lawyers has come up with a novel defense.

According to local news station CBS Detroit, Gov. Snyder’s attorneys are claiming that children who are taught within the state’s school systems have no fundamental right to literacy, which means that the state isn’t liable if its schools fail to educate them.

The lawsuit, which was filed on behalf of Detroit students’ families by a California public interest firm, argues that children in Detroit have been fundamentally deprived of their rightful education thanks to neglect by Michigan’s state government.

“Decades of State disinvestment in and deliberate indifference to Detroit schools have denied Plaintiff schoolchildren access to the most basic building block of education: literacy,” the suit alleges, while also claiming that the schools’ “slum-like conditions” render them “functionally incapable of delivering access to literacy.”

CBS Detroit notes that a report from five years ago found that nearly half of all students in Detroit schools were functionally illiterate.

Attorneys representing Rick Snyder, Raw Story 35 Comments [11/26/2016 6:46:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom