Quote# 117907

(A BJP fundie disrupted a peaceful protest he didn't like by attacking an innocent police horse)

A police horse was allegedly attacked by the BJP’s Mussoorie MLA, Ganesh Joshi, during a protest in Dehradun Monday afternoon. The animal suffered multiple fractures during the incident near the Vidhan Sabha which occurred during a protest called by the BJP against the state government. The injured horse was immediately rushed to the district veterinary officer for treatment.

According to sources, doctors have told the police that the horse’s leg may have to be amputated. Police have also sought opinion from doctors at the Indian Military Academy’s Veterinary Hospital.

Dehradun SSP SR Date said doctors had ruled out early recovery due to multiple fractures in the animal’s rear leg. In the evening, Uttarakhand Chief Minister Harish Rawat visited the city’s reserve police lines to check on the horse’s condition.

Meanwhile, an FIR has been lodged at Nehru Colony police station against the BJP MLA and his unidentified associates. Apart from invoking the Prevention of Animal Cruelty Act, the case was lodged under Section 429 (mischief by killing or maiming cattle, etc., of any value or any animal of the value of fifty rupees) and 188 (disobedience to order duly promulgated by public servant) of the IPC. No arrests have been made so far.

When contacted, MLA Ganesh Joshi denied the charge and said the state government was trying to shift focus from real issues by falsely implicating him in the case.

“It was a quiet protest, but still mounted police was deployed to create terror. During the protest, a horse hit our party worker, 28-year-old Munni, who suffered an injury on the chest. I snatched a stick from the policeman and tried to stop the animal from attacking others.

Later, I along with other party workers sat on a dharna….While we were sitting on the dharna…we came to know that the rear leg of one of the horse got trapped in the iron-angle on the roadside. While trying to pulled it out, the horse suffered injuries. I did not beat up the horse,” said Joshi.

According to Vinod Singh, the Station Officer of Nehru Colony police station, Joshi and his supporters were seen beating the animal with sticks.
SP (City) Ajay Singh said they had video footage of the incident and action would be taken accordingly. He denied the police had used lathis or horses to disperse the crowd.

Ganesha Joshi, Indian Express 19 Comments [4/5/2016 2:45:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 117905

Hindutva activist Amit Jani on Sunday threatened to enter JNU and gun down the university Student's Union president Kanhaiya Kumar and research scholar Umar Khalid. In his warning on Facebook, Jani warned the two students to leave Delhi by March 31, failing which he would get them “gunned down” by his volunteers.

A self-styled “protector” of Hindus and chief of the Uttar Pradesh Navnirman Sena, Jani announced on his Facebook profile that, “there are just four days left in the ultimatum of leaving Delhi. Tell us, countrymen, should we get them bombed ? All preparations have been made. Boys are ready and so are the weapons! We will do it silently, without any information so that they do not disappear like Owaisi...I swear it on Maa Bhagwati, I would leave politics if I am unable to get them shot in JNU”.

Jani's announcement on Facebook got about 1800 likes, 1000 comments and was shared 148 times in less than a day.

Jani shot to infamy in 2012 when he vandalised the Statue of former State Chief Minister Mayawati. Last week he tried to enter the residence of Asaduddin Owaisi but was detained before that.

Speaking to The Hindu, Jani reiterated his threat. “This I want to make clear that if Umar and Kanhaiya, who repeatedly insulted the country, do not leave Delhi, then I will enter the university and slay them. I am repeating it that nobody would be able to save and protect them from us”.

“We are from western UP. We will not sit behind the bangles of law. We know how to take action ourselves. The JNU students had also insulted Ma Durga. *I will slay the “mahisasurs” before April 8 as a homage to the goddess,” he told The Hindu.

Recalling precedents, he said “in 2012, I had asked Chief Minister Akhilesh Yadav to raze the statues of Mayawati. when he could not get it done, I myself broke the statues. So, I am a man of words who does what he says”.

Local police officials said that they would look into the matter and take action if necessary.

*[ Mahishasura was an evil, destructive buffalo demon from Hindu Mythology, who was killed by the goddess Durga (the light counterpart to Kali).]

Amit Jani, The Hindu 12 Comments [4/5/2016 2:35:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 117904

(On "The Force Awakens")

Above all, though, the movie’s biggest problem has nothing to do with bad storytelling or bad filmmaking, or even a better climax. Far from it! The biggest problem is that the movie has a very strong New Age pagan worldview promoting impersonal Eastern monism, a worldview that, ultimately, is irrational and warrants strong caution. (...)

(...)All in all, therefore, STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS is clearly one of the better popcorn movies of the year. However, despite its strong moral elements and lightly conservative, but strong, opposition to totalitarian bullies, THE FORCE AWAKENS has a strong New Age pagan worldview overall.

For instance, the movie has a couple mystical moments where characters establish an emotional connection to the Force or through it. In regard to the infamous Force, the movie also promotes modern monism, a New Age theology claiming that there’s a universal, but impersonal, energy or “Force” that is part of everything and surrounds everyone. This is typical STAR WARS mythology. However, in THE FORCE AWAKENS, it’s suggested a couple times that there must be a “balance” not only in the Force but also between the “good side” and the “dark side” of the Force. This is Non-Christian Eastern monism and moral dualism.

In this light, it’s interesting to note that these lines in the movie logically contradict the rest of the story, which clearly and strongly says the good must defeat and overcome, if not destroy, the dark side. The movie also suggests, in a redemptive way, that characters who succumb to the dark side can actually redeem themselves by rejecting the dark side and coming into the light. That’s not really “balance.” It also reflects an ethical monotheistic theology, not a monistic, pantheistic one where morality is “maya,” or an illusion.

Thus, Christians, and especially Christian parents and grandparents, should teach their children and other people about the logical contradictions and irrational mysticism of the STAR WARS movies, including THE FORCE AWAKENS. They should also note how such New Age thinking differs from the ethical monotheism and redemption of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the enlightenment and divine fellowship or communion that comes from a personal relationship with Jesus and from the power of the Holy Spirit.

MOVIEGUIDE® recommends people focus on the positive moral and redemptive content or messages in STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS. Strong or extreme caution is warranted when it comes to the movie’s confused, impersonal, pagan monism. Christians have a better, more personal “Force” – our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who created everything and redeems us and comes to us through the personal, divine power of the Holy Spirit.

Parents please teach your children to be media wise. A great way to learn how to teach them to keep the faith and be media-wise is by reading THE CULTURE-WISE FAMILY®.

Unknown, Movieguide 17 Comments [4/5/2016 2:34:28 AM]
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Quote# 117902

BELgium, Temple Of BEL, And Now THIS?! You Won't Believe What's Next!!!



Published on Mar 31, 2016

TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

THIS SPRING BEWARE!

Because there's WAY too much going on! Nothing is EVER a mere coincidence!!!!

It's no coincidence the BELgium "attacks" occurred on 322 (See Video Below), and it's also no surprise they are announcing the Temple of Bel to be erected all over the world this upcoming spring (See Video Below).

So should this surprise us that the pagan feast of Beltane is taking place this upcoming April 30th/May 1st?

During this time, pagans and wiccans alike gather together and celebrate Belinos; one of the names of the sun-god; or Bel, who is also known as Baal/"Lord," a pagan deity tracing all the way back to Mystery Babylonian Religion (Nimrod).

Because this is a "season" of fertility and fire, the feast of Beltane is often also associated with phallic pole-dancing, illicit sex, excessive promiscuity, body decorating, and of course, blood sacrifices by fire.

Not to mention April 19th, which is often a significant day for the occult, considering this day "kicks off" the 13-day period leading up to the Beltane feast on May 1st. Not to mention these notable events, all occurring on or around this date:

- April 19, 1904—The Great Fire of Toronto
- April 18, 1906—The San Francisco Earthquake Fire
- April 19, 1995—Oklahoma City bombing—Once again fire and death on this day
- April 20, 1999—The Columbine High School Massacre
- April 19, 2005—Joseph Alois Ratzinger elected as Pope Benedict XVI
- April 19, 2010—Iceland’s Volcanic Ash Grounds all Airlines in Northern Europe while NATO conducts the largest military exercise of the Year
- April 20, 2010—The Gulf Oil Fire

Is this a coincidence, considering the 13-day period beginning on April 19th and ending on May 1st, is the period regarded as "blood sacrifice to the beast?" Or is there something more sinister brewing in the works for this upcoming spring?

YOU DECIDE!

THE END IS EVEN AT THE DOOR! THE SATANIC KINGDOM IS HERE!!! SEEK YAHUAH AND HIS TRUE SON YAHUSHA NOW — BECAUSE THE ALARM BELLS ARE RINGING LIKE CRAZY!!!!!

EyesWideOpen111, Godlike Productions 18 Comments [4/5/2016 2:33:12 AM]
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Quote# 117901

No Trump Presidency 2016-2019 Obama Antichrist

The research for David Montaigne's previous book (End Times and 2019) leads him to conclude that the first three and a half years, although full of problems like earthquakes and wars and rumors of wars – will not be intense enough to make anyone assume the world is ending. Only the second three and a half years will clearly be “great tribulation.” That being said, the final seven years already began on December 21, 2012 – when plans were made for the “Covenant of Peoples” tour in Israel and the Mayan Long Count ended. When Daniel talks about a midpoint halfway through these seven years, I believe he is referring to June 2016. The duration of his first time period is repeated often using different phrases to avoid possible misinterpretation. “Time, times, and half a time” are considered to be three and a half years, or 42 months, or “1260 days” using 42 months of 30 days each. Adding Daniel’s next number of “1290 days” gets us within a few days of an exact seven years in total – but it still leaves us with an extra 3 days of darkness to add to each half to reach an exact seven years. The two witnesses will lie dead in the street for three days at the end of the second half. I believe the extra 3 days at the end of the first three and a half years can be explained by an assassination attempt on the Antichrist exactly 1260 days into Daniel’s 70th week on June 3, 2016. He will appear to be mortally wounded at first, but in a tragic mockery of Christ’s resurrection, he will rise fully healed 3 days later, and present himself at the site of the Temple in Jerusalem as God on earth on June 6, 2016.

As on earth, so it is in heaven: when the Antichrist enters the Temple, Venus appears to enter the Sun. The Morningstar (Lucifer/Antichrist=Venus) enters the Temple (goes directly behind the Sun/altar of fire in the Temple.) As the Sun also represents Christ, and Venus is on the opposite (anti-) side we have our astronomical Anti-christ in the right position. This is a rare event that happens on just 9 days every 105 years… And even the date fits activity for the Antichrist – the sixth day of the sixth month of a year ending in six – the only 6-6-6 date during the entire tribulation.

The odds of Venus going behind the sun on any given day are about 9/(105*365.25) – about 1 in 4261 odds. It only happens on a 6-6-6 date one day out of every 15,563,302 days. That means on average it would not happen again like this for about 42,611 years. It is a VERY rare sign.

There are many other clues pointing to this date which require a more detailed explanation. The easiest one to explain in this short article is the JUBILEE.

In the Old Testament, God commanded the Israelites to let the land rest every 7 years and have a Sabbath year. After 7 Sabbath years, they were also told to celebrate a jubilee year. Every 49 years, debts were forgiven, slaves were freed, and land which had been “sold” (leased really, the prices were even based on how many years were left before the next jubilee) reverted back to its original owner. This was to remind them that GOD owned the land and the people.

What better date could be chosen by someone standing at the temple in Jerusalem claiming to be God – than the date exactly one jubilee after the Israeli army liberated East Jerusalem and the Temple Mount? The Israelis entered East Jerusalem on June 6, 1967, and by morning had taken back the entire city, including the Temple Mount. Forty-nine years later we have June 6, 2016, when the Antichrist will try to mimic Christ and claim that it is time for possession of the land and the people to revert back to him. Many Christians expect the Second Coming at the end of a jubilee cycle, and notice that Daniel’s 70 sevens of years (490 years as described in Daniel 9:24-27) equals ten jubilee cycles and would end with the tenth jubilee. In the Jewish commentaries known as the Talmud, Elijah says “on the last Jubilee the Son of David will come.” (Sanhedrin 97b) Though the Antichrist will show up in the middle of Daniel’s final week of years, and not on a biblical jubilee – he will try to claim that he is our Messiah and that he fulfills this prophecy – on June 6, 2016.

My previous book (End Times and 2019) briefly addresses this as the midpoint of the final seven years, but its focus is really on the final events of December 2019. For more on the events of June 6, 2016 – including the identity of the Antichrist – read Antichrist 2016-2019: Mystery Babylon, Barack Obama & the Islamic Caliphate.

— contributed by David Montaigne, author of End Times and 2019 and Antichrist 2016-2019

and (as of November 2015) The Two Witnesses of Revelation: Will Elijah and Moses Return in 2016?

This newest little e-book on the Two Witnesses is a short and inexpensive introduction to my timeline of events, which explains: “When my first books came out, I knew I was still missing something if my timeline didn’t perfectly align with the 1260, 1290, and 1335 day periods in the book of Daniel. I finally found the missing piece of the puzzle regarding the two witnesses (I already had it before and hadn’t recognized the significance of it) and now I know my timeline already was perfectly aligned with Daniel’s numbers…“
His prediction is Barak Obama on 6-6-2016 !

He claims that Dec 21 2012 started the last seven years.
So we have just a little over 3 and a half years left!

Coincidentally Ramadan starts on 6-6-2016

6-6-2016 is also Atheist Pride day!
and it is also D-Day!

holyspiritwind & David Montaigne, Godlike Productions 32 Comments [4/4/2016 3:26:58 AM]
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Quote# 117900

Responding to another poster who said: "Our laws in America forbid killing over sexual orientation"

Too bad. Maybe someday we can get that changed.

GracetotheHumble, Christian Forums 40 Comments [4/4/2016 3:26:42 AM]
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Quote# 117898

A Turkish official has been accused of tweeting that she "wished the Israelis" who were said to be wounded in an Istanbul suicide bomb blast were dead. Irem Aktas reportedly acts as the women's media and publicity chairman for President Recep Tayip Erdogan's AKP party.

"I wish that the wounded #Israeli tourists were dead," she reportedly said, before adding in another tweet: "When Israel was attacking your Muslim brothers, why didn't you say anything."

Shortly afterwards, she made her Twitter profile private, and then it was removed altogether. But the comments were highlighted by Dr Aykan Erdemir, who served in the Turkish parliament between 2011-2015.

Irem Aktas, International Business Times 13 Comments [4/4/2016 3:25:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 117896

Yes I was thinking out loud. Perhaps not with the view to an eventual marriage, then. Except in cases where the child is sexually mature but not old enough by law to marry.

In the case I suggested, it wouldn't be with a view to future marriage, then, and the child wouldn't be told about the pedophile's condition. Forming a friendship with the child but without any physical contact might be therapeutic for the pedophile, in that it would help him learn how to relate to children in the right way. You would have to have the parents' involvement of course. I'm not sure how else you could treat a pedophile for pedophilia.

The only other option would be for them to avoid all contact with children, which would not be achieving as much as if they found they could eventually relate to children socially without needing to go further.

Relating this to homosexuality, it is clear to me that for Christians homosexual practices are forbidden. So I am interested in ways that could help homosexuals to change.

The issue is of course, does it harm anyone. Aside from the obvious harm caused by sodomy, there is the psychological harm to both involved. There is loss of masculinity (in men who treat another man as if female, or behave effeminately) or loss of femininity (in women). I think this is swept under the carpet by people who refer to them as "harmless".

Spud, Religion and Ethics 39 Comments [4/4/2016 3:14:39 AM]
Fundie Index: 15
Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 117895

White males are currently politically unorganized, unrepresented and exploited.


This is because blacks and females (single females mostly) have joined political forces to take what white males have earned.


Moreover, Democrats, along with the corporate ***** wing of Republican Party, have floated the idea of amnesty for illegal immigrants hoping to take even more from working whites and make white-male financial subjugation and political disenfranchisement a permanent demographic reality.


For white males, this is slavery minus the chains.


White-males are not upset that blacks and women have the vote, but rather what they have done with it.


Together they are a political majority voting to financially enslave the white-male minority and supporting immigration policies designed to dilute white political power to such a degree that we effectively lose our vote.


The lame excuses and straw-man arguments the black-female political alliance repeat hoping to justify their obvious abuse of the political system is shameful and obvious.

momonkey, City Data 43 Comments [4/4/2016 3:10:29 AM]
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Submitted By: ScrappyB

Quote# 117893

Before I was introduced to folkish Wodenism via an out of the blue flyer in the early 2000s (a coincidence full of meaning) I was concerned with esoteric christianity and eschatology (the study of the end times) and I looked for and preached the Second Coming of Christ. Now, many years after my spiritual and folkish awakening, which came to its full fruition via the teachings of Woden's Folk, instead of preaching the Second Coming I write about the coming Starker von Oben. In reality this cosmic figure can be called by any and all of these names which demonstrates to me that there are such things as objective not just subjective spiritual truths because this world figure is not confined to just one religion or people: He is a global figure.

It behoves us to study the sacred writings of these other religions and peoples for they contain a certain grain of truth regarding this mysterious end time figure. This is no coincidence for these writings contain dire warnings for the peoples of the Earth. Often founders of religions are prophets and forerunners of an even greater personage. Founders of religions are often persecuted. They are certainly hardly ever acknowledged during their earthly lifetimes and are generally mocked by the unbelieving. Of course Hitler, especially since the collapse of the Third Reich has been reviled and mocked to a degree which in my opnion is unprecedented. Of course one could argue that he was the founder of a religion: National Socialism but he was not just the founder of a religion but the very incarnation of a God. That God is Wotan.

[...]

Wotan's apparent 'possesion' of Hitler may be explained by the Aryan concept of the avatar. Hitler was not an ordinary man. He was born of a woman in order to fulfill a specific mission in the same sense that according to christians Jesus Christ did. By all appearances he was human, being born of woman but nevertheless his followers believe he was a God-Man incarnated in human flesh to fulfill a specific task. In this sense there is little qualative difference between Adolf Hitler and Jesus Christ with the exception that we know Hitler to be a real historic personage. There is no such proof for the existence of Jesus Christ.

Recently there has been a concerted attempt by dark forces to undermine the founder of folkish Wodenism by ridiculing him and misrepresenting his teachings. This is to be expected for these same agents of dark forces fear the light. They delight in exposing others but they themselves will hide behind a false identity whilst they libel innocent people purely because they violently disagree with their teachings. This is to be expected. Far from eroding the knowledge that our teachings are based upon light and truth these desparate persecutors actually convince us that we are right!

Wotans Krieger, Aryan Myth and Metahistory 25 Comments [4/3/2016 5:07:58 AM]
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Quote# 117889

There is a certain irony in that the more traditionally oriented male - the sort who thinks date rape is a myth - is far more likely to save a woman from another man than the sort who enjoys posturing about how terrible rape is and how he would never rape a woman.

If the definition of rape is stretched so far to include women who have not given consent, then I am absolutely a serial rapist. So, too, is every man I know. And if that makes me a rapist, I shall endeavor to somehow survive with that upon my conscience.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 41 Comments [4/3/2016 5:06:37 AM]
Fundie Index: 35
Submitted By: David

Quote# 117886

Louisiana state Sen. John Milkovich appears to be the kind of Democrat who has been seen for quite a while — since William Jennings Bryan at the Scopes Monkey Trial — arguing at a meeting Tuesday night of the state Senate Education Committee for the scientific teaching and accuracy of the Bible over evolution.

The measure was brought forward by Republican state Sen. Dan Claitor, as part of an overall effort on his part to have the state clean up its law books by repealing various acts that have been found unconstitutional.

But as The Times-Picayune reports, the committee voted 4-2 to keep the state’s unenforceable “Balanced Treatment for Creation-Science Act,” which was passed in 1981 and stuck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1987 case Edwards v. Aguillard.

And during that hearing, Milkovich was the most passionate advocate for creationism. At one point, he asked Claitor, “if you are equipped to acknowledge this, or have the background that in fact, scientific research and developments and advances in the last hundred years — particularly the last 50, 20, ten years — have validated the Biblical story of creation,” through archaeology of ancient civilizations, and even the discovery of Noah’s Ark on a mountaintop.

Milkovich also added that “the notion of instantaneous creation has been validated by the scientific study of heliocentric circles in rocks.”

(Note: On that last point, Milkovich might have been referring to radiohalos in rocks, a phenomenon that is often seized upon by creationists to insist that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. The word “heliocentric” refers to the idea that the Earth revolves around the Sun — but maybe it’s just good to have an indication that he accepts that, and not ask any further questions.)

Claitor was clearly incensed at somebody questioning his religious faith and morals

“I have faith in God, and you will never know exactly what’s in my heart. That’s not what I’m here asking you to do. I’m asking you to repeal what has been found unconstitutional,” Claitor said. “And I’m also pointing out that you have an alternative that remains on the books that hasn’t been repealed. That’s what I’m asking you to do.

“I’m not looking here to engage with you in a debate on what my religious beliefs are, and how many times I go to confession in a week — which, probably, during session I ought to go more often than what I do.”

Also during the hearing, Milkovich said it was a violation of academic freedom to not teach creationism, calling it a “skewed, one-dimensional” approach.

And in a later discussion of a completely separate bill, Milkovich circled back to creationism by linking an alleged decline of morality in children to taking God and the Bible out of schools.

Milkovich, who was elected last November in an upset in a heavily-Republican district, seems like an odd fit for a modern Democrat. On his official Web page at the state Senate, he declares: “My priorities this term include strengthening our Second Amendment protections; defending traditional marriage; fighting abortion; working to get rid of Common Core; protecting the right of citizens, including principals, teachers and coaches, to express their faith.”

Sen. John Milkovich, Raw Story 25 Comments [4/3/2016 4:23:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 117884

The state legislature in Mississippi has now passed a bill to allow both public employees and private businesses to refuse to take part in gay marriages — but a whole lot of heterosexual people might be surprised at what’s in the written text here.

The bill repeatedly states that “the state government shall not take any discriminatory action” against a person or religious organization for refusing to take part in objectionable marriages, adoptions, or certain other services (more on that later).

The bill’s usage of the phrase “discriminatory action,” however, is more like what laws in most states would describe as an action under anti-discrimination laws, such as “Impose, levy, or assess a monetary fine, fee, penalty or injunction,” as well as other issues involving tax statuses, professional licenses, and state contracts.

But as this bill is actually written, though, a whole lot of people in Mississippi besides sexual minorities could face discrimination, too — like the vast numbers of people who have had sex outside of marriage.

Not to worry, though — they say they’re really just thinking about the gays.

As reported in the Jackson Clarion-Ledger: “Opponents of the bill say the bill could allow discrimination of those in the LGBT community and possibly single mothers, but [state Sen. Jenifer Branning, the lead Senate sponsor] said the bill deals only with same-sex marriage.”

In addition to social services such as marriage and adoption, the bill protects any private business who refuses to provide “services, accommodations, facilities, goods, or privileges for a purpose related to the solemnization, formation, celebration, or recognition of any marriage, based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction described in Section 2 of this act.”

So what is Section 2, and what are its ramifications? The actual text of the bill states:

“SECTION 2. The sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions protected by this act are the belief or conviction that:
“(a) Marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman;
“(b) Sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage; and
“(c) Male (man) or female (woman) refer to an individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy and genetics at time of birth.”

And from here, so much mischief could be done. Because while the bill specifies numerous social services provided by either state employees or private religious organizations — marriage and adoption, mainly — in all cases an employer or organization is broadly protected for having “a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction described in Section 2 of this act.”

As written, despite the sponsor’s statement that the bill deals only with same-sex marriage, a government employee could refuse to grant a marriage license to a couple who have had premarital sex — and who knows, they might even be able to ask the question, too.

So why include a section for people who believe that sex is reserved only for marriage? Most likely, that clause might have been intended to relate to other sections of the bill involving adoption and foster care services, as well as fertility services. But the key point here is that as written, any person could be refused a marriage from a government employee on any or all of the bases under Section 2.

And in other areas, when the bill here also specifies “psychological, counseling, or fertility services based upon a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction described in Section 2 of this act,” a therapist might even potentially refuse counseling to a person whose personal morality does not measure up to the standard set under Section 2.

Some people even think that this bill could even authorize that “a corporation could fire a woman for wearing pants.” But this author respectfully disagrees, based on the full legal context of the relevant language.

What the act actually says is:

“The state government shall not take any discriminatory action against a person wholly or partially on the basis that the person establishes sex-specific standards or policies concerning employee or student dress or grooming, or concerning access to restrooms, spas, baths, showers, dressing rooms, locker rooms, or other intimate facilities or settings, based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction described in Section 2 of this act.”

Since sex-specific dress codes at a business are discussed here in relation to Section 2, what this actually refers to is forbidding a transgender person from dressing according to their internal identity — not just any old matter of a woman wearing pants. (After all, a person’s mode of dress has nothing directly to do with marriage or sexuality — thus leaving gender identity as the only category left from the section.)

The law also forbids “discriminatory action” by the state against a person who “declines to participate in the provision of treatments, counseling, or surgeries related to sex reassignment or gender identity transitioning” — but on the bright side, a clause soon afterward says that this shall not be construed to allow the denial of emergency medical services for sickness or injury.

So a transgender person who gets a broken leg is still to be provided medical care — at least on paper.

Sen. Jenifer Branning, Raw Story 22 Comments [4/3/2016 4:11:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 117882

Such a condition could be treated by the person waiting until the child is an adult, in the mean time suppressing their urges under supervision by a phsychotherapist and perhaps being allowed to conduct a friendship with the child, thus forming an emotional bond with him/her which might be the foundation for a future physical relationship when the child is old enough. We do after all see older men marrying women much younger than themselves.

Supposing for a minute that homosexuality was still illegal. I wonder if a similar kind of process could be found for enabling homosexuals to reach a point where, having suppressed their urges for some time, they could reach the point where they could live with their attraction to the same sex, and form a strong emotional and physical relationship with someone of the opposite sex

Spud, Religion and Ethics 19 Comments [4/3/2016 3:54:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 117881

The anti-White establishment in Britain is now openly admitting it’s genocidal plans again the indigenous White Northern Irish people…but says it’s okay because it was all just a little “joke”

A recent news article had this to say

“Newly-declassified documents released at the National Archives in Kew, west London reveal how senior civil servants reacted enthusiastically to proposals in 1983 from a University of Reading
academic that a chunk of Ulster – between Coleraine and Londonderry – beturned into a new home for Hong Kong’s 5.5m citizens.”

Just to be clear, the current population of Northern Ireland today is1.8 million. If flooding 5.5 million non Whites into the Northern Irish peoples living space is not genocide as per the UN Genocide Convention then what is?

“Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.” (Article 2c Genocide Convention)

The article continues:

“The proponents of the plan, which one Northern Ireland office official declared should be “taken seriously”, suggested the mass transportation of Cantonese speakers would have the dual advantage of boosting the Ulster economy while solving Britain’s dilemma over what to do with the millions of Hong Kong residents concerned they would have no future under Chinese rule.”

The anti-Whites were “concerned” that 5.5 million non-Whites would have “no future” in Hong Kong but it didn’t seem to bother them that generations of White children would have no future in their ancestral
homeland because it was turned non-White by traitors?

That’s pretty anti-White don’t you think?

It seems that some anti-Whites are trying to pass this plan off as a “joke”, or so they claim. After all wouldn’t you lie about a genocidal scheme if your cover was blown?! How pathetic are these anti-Whites anyway?

The thing is, if it was just a “joke” as they are trying to pass it off as then why are they still working on the replacement of the Northern Irish today, albeit at a slower place? You see, it can be argued the only reason they didn’t go ahead with this plan in 1983 is because the N Irish would have noticed something was wrong if 5.5 million non-Whites were suddenly transplanted into their homeland. Instead they are taking the slow route to replacing the Northern Irish, only this time it includes: Africans, Middle Easterners AND Asians.

Let’s not forget either that a prominent anti-White “politician” in Northern Ireland is Anna Lo, originally from Hong Kong; an ardent proponent of anti-White policy in Northern Ireland today.

Remember folks, White genocide is not just happening in one or two White countries. This plan is for ALL and Only White countries.

Cecil11, Council of European Canadians 17 Comments [4/3/2016 3:54:23 AM]
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Quote# 117879

Sorry it took so long to get back to you with an answer. I wanted to make sure that I was not straying from the theme of the Essenes and their revile of the temple, believing that the Hebrew were following the wrong law, worshiping the wrong god and following the wrong calender.

Do I understand correctly that, because of the "atrocities," you believe that there were at least two gods? Yahweh and the "good" one? Because if the only god was evil, the game's over, one can't overcome a god, at least the way we define a god. (Unless you think a "good god" was created sometime after the "evil god." But can an evil god create good? I'm starting to get lost.)

Yahweh was not the only god and he wasn't even the greatest of the gods, but he wanted his people to think that.

The Song of Moses: Deuteronomy 32:

7 Remember the days of old;
consider the years of many generations;
ask your father, and he will show you,
your elders, and they will tell you.

8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
when he divided mankind,
he fixed the borders of the peoples
according to the number of the sons of God.
9 But the LORD's portion is his people,
Jacob his allotted heritage.

According to the Dead Sea Scrolls "Most High" translates "El Elyon," the sons of God translates "Beni Elohim", literally "sons of god" and "LORD" translates "YHVH", "Yahweh". So what we see here is that the author of Deuteronomy considered El-Elyon to be a different god than YHVH, and that also that YHVH was just one of many gods. Perhaps he called "dibs" on Israel when nations were being handed out, or maybe he wasn't happy with his assignment.

The chapter follows with Yahweh finding "him" in the desert and caring for and nursing "him" until he got fat and spoiled. Then we see Yahweh devolve into frustration, rage, vengence and back to frustration.

10 “He found him in a desert land,
and in the howling waste of the wilderness;
he encircled him, he cared for him,
he kept him as the apple of his eye.

15 “But Jeshurun grew fat, and kicked;
you grew fat, stout, and sleek;
then he forsook God who made him
and scoffed at the Rock of his salvation.

23 “‘And I will heap disasters upon them;
I will spend my arrows on them;
24 they shall be wasted with hunger,
and devoured by plague
and poisonous pestilence;
I will send the teeth of beasts against them,
with the venom of things that crawl in the dust.
25 Outdoors the sword shall bereave,
and indoors terror,
for young man and woman alike,
the nursing child with the man of gray hairs.

26 I would have said, “I will cut them to pieces;
I will wipe them from human memory,”
27 had I not feared provocation by the enemy,
lest their adversaries should misunderstand,
lest they should say, “Our hand is triumphant,
it was not the Lord who did all this.”’

Here we see Yahweh set back in frustration. If he carries out is vengeful plan of wrath his enemies will think that they have done it, that they have won, and won't believe that his people's destruction was his (Yahweh's) plan, and they will claim victory over him.

Who are Yahweh's enemies? The other sons of God and their nations, IMHO.

windword, above top secerts 7 Comments [4/3/2016 3:53:25 AM]
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Quote# 117876

I viewed the Atheist Debate YouTube video, where Brian Sapient and Kelly O'Connor debate with Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron. Kelly and Brian are shameful members of the so-called “Rational Response Squad” (RRS). I think they would be better called the “IRrational Response Squad.” Kelly sounds like she's ready to break down in tears, clearly shaken trying to disprove the God of the universe. I felt sorry for Brian and Kelly as I watched the debate, considering their lame arguments, woeful lack of Bible knowledge, and blind hatred for God. The Holy Bible plainly teaches that everyone can see God if they want to, because the universe around us clearly witnesses of God's goodness and unsearchable greatness:

Romans 1:20-21, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

Atheists are a bunch of smart-alecky naysayers who relentlessly place God on trial. They totally reject the Holy Bible, which by it's very existence proves it's divine Author. Approximately 40 writers, who spanned 1,500 years, who lived in different nations, and spoke different languages, were used as pens by one Author (God) to write 66 manuscripts which all meld together into one perfectly harmonizing book. The Bible contains 31% prophecy! The Quran has none!

Kelly mentions ceremonial laws, attempting to use them to disregard God's moral laws. She calls Ray Comfort's beliefs on Creation “obsolete”! Sadly, as Kelly spews her adultish unbelief, you can hear innocent impressionable children laughing at God in the background. Kindly, I wouldn't want to be in Kelly's and Brian's shoes on Judgment Day for corrupting children!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 32 Comments [4/3/2016 3:47:45 AM]
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Quote# 117871

There's no such thing as "moderates". There are only radicals and those less radical until they become the "conservatives".

That's why the civilization is ending.

Our path of destruction has been 500 years in the making. It picked up major impetus at the end of the 17th century with the French Revolution. The 19th and early 20th centuries the Church and her Pontiff's tried to warn the world and stop the path of destruction but the people were already deep into heresy and apostasy. Then came the warnings at Fatima coinciding with "their" moment of crowning glory of the Russian Revolution. After that came the coup in the 1958 conclave where the freemason Roncalli was installed as anti-pope over the legitimate successor Cardinal Giuseppi Siri. Then Vatican II, the removal of most of the grace from the world through the implementation of illegitimate "sacraments" and priesthood. It's no coincidence "the 60's" came next and the rest is recent history.

All directed by the Prince of this World through those who have given their souls to implement his plans.

The next phase of history is mass suffering and death on earth because humanity must pay for and expiate its' sins

CK78, City Data 18 Comments [4/3/2016 3:46:57 AM]
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Submitted By: ScrappyB

Quote# 117870

I'm not sure I understand why CS Lewis wrote the things he did, it seemed like he was christian but then he wrote about lions and witches and wardrobes.

i remmeber seeing this movie as a child and I did not think it was actually christian. It was more fairy tale. Actually it scared me a bit when I was young because it suggested that wardrobes could be portals to this other world.

Later when I became a christian CS Lewis writings didnt make much senese either. It seemed he was advocating anglicanism as a religion rather than actually being born again.
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Why was he writing about witches etc when we are meant to avoid all appearance of evil?

Goodbook, Christian Forums 28 Comments [4/3/2016 3:46:10 AM]
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Quote# 117869

Ghomeshi is a huge success, having fresh pussy continually. Nice guys are huge failures. The things that brought Ghomeshi huge success are likely to continue to bring him success.

Monogamy is incompatible with female emancipation, with treating women as equals, because women, if you let them, will usually have sex with Jeremy Meeks.

If women are allowed free sexual choice, they usually make profoundly unwise choices.

Monogamy is a deal between men for reducing male on male conflict by fair sharing of pussy, in which deal women were never consulted, and which deal has to be coercively imposed on women against their wills.

Women rather like being coerced sexually. Submitting turns them on. Being owned gives them comfort and security. They want strong men to deny them dangerous choices. Their resistance is just a test, to measure to strength that masters them.

Jim, Jim's Blog 20 Comments [4/3/2016 3:46:01 AM]
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Quote# 117868

But a woman will only commit to a man that is above her.

Female perceptions of male status are crude and primitive, resembling that of a small evil child raised by cannibal headhunters. Which is to say, a woman will only have sex with a man if a small evil child raised by cannibal headhunters would perceive him as high status, and higher status than herself. Even if her conscious mind can learn to read male status correctly, her pussy overrules her conscious mind and causes her to go with more ancient indicators of status, indicators no longer appropriate in our civilized society.

Thus, in our modern and civilized environment, to make hypergamy eugenic, we have to support male status with signals a small evil child raised by cannibal headhunters is capable of reading. Our middle and upper class needs to be more violent, or seemingly more violent.

To this end, to accommodate the primitive female mind too easily impressed by rule breaking and violence, we should bring back dueling, and grant high status males policing powers, and impose on them a duty to police order. Then we get more women screwing executives in the executive bathroom, and less women screwing thugs in a dark alley, which though still pretty bad, is a major improvement on what we have now.

Ghomeshi was able to have a fresh woman every night because he had actual high status, and, to a small evil child raised by cannibal headhunters, his caveman behavior towards women was congruent with his actual status – his status as a mildly famous radio personality was, to a cannibal headhunter, congruent with his interpersonal behavior towards women.

He was a high status male in our society (being a moderately famous radio personality) and also behaved like a high status male in the ancestral environment, the environment of evolutionary adaptation, would have behaved – arrogant, violent, cruel, and demanding.

Jim, Jim's Blog 12 Comments [4/3/2016 3:45:22 AM]
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Quote# 117867

He is most certainly meant to polygynous. We are descended from far more women than men, indicating that among our ancestors most men failed to reproduce, and a few men reproduced massively.

Civilization requires patriarchy and monogamy, but any argument for monogamy presupposes patriarchy, that women are owned by their fathers, who transfer ownership to husbands. If fertile age women are allowed to wander round fucking who they please, they all fuck Jeremy Meeks – and if Jeremy Meeks is too busy to fuck them, they fuck Jian Ghomeshi. If you emancipate women, Jeremy Meeks gets most of the pussy, and nice guys get used up burned out thirty year olds.

For monogamy to exist, it has to be forcefully and coercively imposed on women. Women have submit.

Monogamy should be understood as a system of rationing to deal with the shortages that result from price controlling pussy.

Monogamy is a part of a deal between fighting men, where each man who is willing to work and fight gets at least one women, men disinclined to work or fight get kicked out, and women are not consulted about the deal.

Jim, Jim's Blog 13 Comments [4/3/2016 3:45:17 AM]
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Quote# 117866

I'm on record here, many times, in pointing out the central importance of sane religions -- Christianity and Judaism foremost on that list -- in creating a core for any evolving culture's sense of morality. I've agreed with you (and ScottSA) many times that a Judeao-Christian background seems to have provided the best preparation for a civil, law-based society such as our Republic, which is based on the importance of human dignity, personal freedom, and human life.

My own personal religious beliefs are irrelevant here. I think that when an entire continent "evolves" into being "post-Christian" (and on a continent that has recently wiped out almost all of its Jewish communities), that it had better have a clear idea of what it will base its "new morality" on if it's going to have any self-identity at all. But in Europe -- and more and more here in the States -- the faux-morality of "political correctness uber alles" has failed to replace the basic requirement for a culture to have its own moral standards and sense of identity.

You've never heard me complain on these forums (or anywhere else) about Christmas or other religious-cultural celebrations here in America. When they're cultural, rather than government-sponsored (which violates the Constitution and Bill of Rights), such community celebrations are vitally important to a culture's sense of identity even if some "minority religions" are left out.

Europe is a confused, shallow mess.

Dan Simmons, Dan Simmons Forums 13 Comments [4/3/2016 3:45:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Yamamanama

Quote# 117863

I disagree. The current official relationship between men and women is so artificial and unnatural, so contrary to nature, so perverse and obscene, that if we were to revert to the eighteenth century system (strip women of the vote, place women firmly under the control of fathers or husbands, and treat any fertile age women without fathers or husbands as a problem to be solved like lost children) the inconceivably shocking would suddenly become the entirely normal, just as Trump casually opened up the Overton window.

When Trump said the unsayable, it suddenly became sayable. If the government were to do the undoable, it would suddenly become doable.

You know how when you pass a harsh shit test the drama instantly goes away, and then after a bit, everything comes up roses. Emancipation is a shit test. Pass it, there will be no drama, and, after a short interval as women realize men are not kidding, everything will come up roses.

Jim, Jim's Blog 18 Comments [4/3/2016 3:44:26 AM]
Fundie Index: 13

Quote# 117861

My knowledge comes from God. Any so-called 'knowledge' that contradicts God's Word is false & illegitimate knowledge.

Navaros, IMDB 16 Comments [4/3/2016 3:44:01 AM]
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