Quote# 118807

Fyi, schizophrenia is occasional or episodic demon possession, usually
the result of engaging the services of witches/mediums/sorcerers to cast
spells/charms/hexes on others, eg love potion/spell, ie a curse from
God for breaking God's Law at DEUT.18:9-14.
.......Case examples, 1SAM.16:14, MATT.8:28 & 9:32.

Demonic
activity is rife in tropical countries bc demons like to live in dark n
dense tropical jungles, eg village shamans, witch-doctors n
voodoo-priests. These r the 'prophets' of Satan/demons that the Holy
Bible warned about. Also, fortune-tellers, psychics, magicians,
tarot-card readers, ouija-boards, horoscope, etc.
.......Satan is a
fallen arch-angel n demons r fallen angels. They hv evil spiritual
powers that r tempting to ignorant people but r very harmful.

disqus_O2BUmbLecp, Christian News Network 20 Comments [5/8/2016 3:51:38 AM]
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Quote# 118806

Why Did God Make Viruses?

There are some fundamental differences in how creationists and evolutionists view life. Biblical creationists believe that God created various forms of life according to their kinds with the ability to reproduce and fill the earth (Genesis 1:21– 22, 24–28). This view includes the concepts that God had purpose in what He created and that it originally was very good (Genesis 1:31; Isaiah 45:18).

In contrast, evolutionists view life as all descending from a single common ancestor by chance processes. Evolutionary arguments tend to imply that life isn’t really very complex or well designed. For example, 100 years ago a cell was promoted as being nothing more than a blob of protoplasm, implying that it wouldn’t be difficult for it to arise by chance. This proved to be wrong; cells are incredibly complex structures. At one time evolutionists argued that organs or structures with no known function actually had no function; at the time, this included hundreds of organs and structures in the human body. Instead, these were believed to be vestiges of evolution. This argument has become rather vestigial itself, as these organs have been found to have function.

Yet this argument reappeared in genetics. Most of the DNA in our bodies does not code for proteins, so it was labeled “junk DNA” by evolutionists who assumed it has no function. As research continues, it is becoming clear that this DNA has numerous essential functions. The evolutionary worldview has a dismal track record for anticipating the astounding complexity in life uncovered by scientific research.

If God created everything good and with a purpose, why are there disease-causing bacteria and viruses in the world? It is true that we first learned about bacteria and viruses because of the problems they cause. Bacteria have been studied in considerable detail and are now recognized to be mainly helpful and absolutely essential for life on Earth; bacteria that cause disease (which developed as a result of the Fall) are the exceptions, not the rule. But what about viruses: what purpose could they possibly have?

(...)

Creationist Puzzle

The biblical record tells of a global Flood when all created kinds of unclean land animals were reduced to a population of two, the pair that was preserved with Noah on the Ark (Genesis 7). After the Flood, these animals reproduced and filled the earth again (Genesis 8:15–19). Today, many of these kinds are represented by whole families. For example, the dog family (Canidae) is believed to represent a created kind. However, this is a very diverse group of animals. There are foxes that are adapted to living in the arctic, and others that live in the desert. There is incredible variety seen in modern domestic dog breeds. Where did all this variety come from? And how could it arise so quickly given that the Flood occurred around 4,300 years ago?

The answer to this puzzle is probably quite complex. Some of the variety would have been carried by the pair of animals on the Ark. When parents pass traits on to their offspring, these traits can appear in new combinations in the offspring (Mendelian genetics). Natural selection can weed some existing traits out of a population. However, a close examination reveals that genetic changes have also arisen in this time. Many of these changes do not appear accidental and do not directly cause disease. For this reason, some creationists have proposed that God “designed animals to be able to undergo genetic mutations which would enable them to adapt to a wide range of environmental challenges while minimizing risk.”

Isn’t That Evolution?

It is important to recognize that biologists use several distinct definitions for evolution that are often blurred together as if they are synonymous. Evolution is sometimes defined as “change in the genetic makeup (or gene frequency) of a population over time.” This has been observed; both creationists and evolutionists recognize this as important in building models to help us understand what likely happened in the past. A second definition of evolution involves the idea that all life descended from a common ancestor over millions of years through naturalistic processes. This has not been observed. In fact, it is in direct opposition to the testimony God (the eyewitness to creation) gives us in the Bible. The idea that all life has a common ancestor requires the assumption that the Bible’s history is false, and the assumption that changes which do occur could produce the variety of life we see today from a single-celled ancestor.

(...)

Diseases draw attention and research dollars, so the problems associated with transposons have been recognized before the benefits are understood (much like was true of bacteria). Many people still view these mobile genetic elements as “parasitic” or “selfish.” However, they are quite widespread in the genome of plants, animals, and man. If their insertion was always purely “random,” it seems they should more consistently cause problems in a complex system such as the genome. Therefore, it seems more logical to believe that transposons have purpose and were designed in a way to benefit their possessor.

The Bible Explains the Paradox

The biblical view explains an important paradox we see in the world around us. It anticipates the complexity that is constantly being uncovered by scientific research; God is an all-wise Creator and would be expected to use awesome design patterns and programming. It also explains the decay observed because mankind sinned and brought death into the world; the world is now in bondage to decay (Romans 8:20–21). This is an exciting time to be a creationist researcher, as the tremendous volume of scientific research is helping to provide answers to questions that have been asked for decades.

Dr. Jean Lightner, Answers in Genesis 13 Comments [5/8/2016 3:50:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 118802

What do you have against courtship? We believe that Courtship teaches many false, un-Biblical principles in key areas. For example:

A) The sufficiency of Scripture: Courtship advocates specifically deny that Scripture is sufficient in the path to marriage. They propose that not a single Biblical marriage actually occurs in the ‘right’ way (since, of course, no Biblical characters courted). Or, occasionally, they believe that the ‘right’ aspects of the relationship just happened to be not written down by God.

We believe, on the other hand, that Scripture is sufficient. That we can find several examples of Godly paths to marriage, with sufficient details to follow.

B) Courtship denies the authority of the father over the marriage of their virgin children. While they often give a veto to the parents of the woman, they specifically deny the authority of the father of the groom or the bride to choose a spouse for their children.

We believe that Scripture teaches quite clearly that the father does have the power to choose a spouse for their virgin child; and we see this in several Scriptural examples.

C) Courtship advocates generally deny the continuing authority of the father over the married son.

We believe, along with the Reformers and the Church historical, that the jurisdiction of the family is the primordial and fundamental jurisdiction, and it is not interrupted by the marriage of a son. (A daughter, on the other hand, comes under the jurisdiction of her new husband)

[...]

Why not try reforming the systems of courtship and/or dating? It is important to recognize where these methods originate. Dating and courtship hardly come from auspicious beginnings: The term “dating” had reference to prostitution, while the term “courtship” was originally a system of organized adultery. These systems were designed, from their beginnings, to encourage lust, and no amount of changes can take away this essential character from them. As Christians, we need to start with the Word of God with the teachings, commands, and examples therein and build our methods from here. We should not take the methods of the world and try to backfit “Biblical principles” onto them as an afterthought.

[...]

What if the person objects to the prospective spouse? Is there an opportunity to veto? First, if there is any doubt, any risk of the person potentially rejecting the spouse they are given (being betrothed), there is a problem. A betrothal should not be contracted if there is any doubt that the man or the woman will not honor the agreement. A betrothal, according to the Bible, is a very serious thing. It is a covenant, a binding contract. It has many of the same obligations as a full-fledged marriage, though not yet consummated. To disavow the betrothal is willful abandonment and/or adultery.

Second, there is no decision to be made once a betrothal is final. There is no approval required or veto allowed. The time for input from them or others (if any is to be given) is before the covenant is made. It is much the same as or modern wedding ceremonies where it is asked if any has “just cause why they may not be wed”. Once they are pronounced “man and wife” (as is the case with a betrothed couple), it is the duty of all to “hold your peace”.

Third, it should be considered (again, prior to any covenant agreement) what reasons a person would have to object to the spouse they are given. Do we see such an example in Scripture, with Adam or Isaac, Joseph or Moses? We do see Jacob making such an objection (after he had enjoyed his wedding night, it should be added), but his example as a whole and this part in particular are hardly good or meant for emulation.


Vaughn Ohlman, Let Them Marry 18 Comments [5/8/2016 3:47:13 AM]
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Quote# 118801

(Discussion of an article posted "Washington Post cites bogus 'post abortion syndrome' myth without saying it's been discredited")

It is probably such a hard thing to gage. My friend who had abortions was very depressed. I actually understand where Dan is coming from when he says the depression caused the woman to abort, especially with this friend of mine who kept having abortions rather than being on birth control. She was married btw.

She was not depressed when she had the first abortion but was afterwards. But she never sought treatment. Many women say they know they were depressed but didn't go to a doctor for treatment. So like I say, it is hard to gage. My humble opinion is that people with a conscience might become very depressed about what they had done.

Women who brag about it have probably hardened themselves in order to deal with guilt. When one feels guilty, they often want confirmation that what they did was right for everyone so they can take focus off themselves.

I really don't know why a woman would brag about it but I do know that if someone does something wrong, they like to point out that others did it too in order to make it seem right.

This is probably why pro abortion people lie to women and don't want to tell them the dangers of the procedures or even the dangers of those pills...or any after effects. This is also why they don't even want her to see an ultrasound if she asks to see. They want these women, especially the young ones, to think it is a blob of goo and not to see that it is a baby being formed.

Shar

FairSharFairShar, Realabortiondebate 7 Comments [5/8/2016 3:46:40 AM]
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Quote# 118800

A man who has apparently been suffering a spate of misfortune petitioned a court for a restraining order against God, the Times of Israel reports.

The man, who was not named in reports, lives in the country’s northern port city of Haifa and has apparently called police to his home ten times in the past three years. He has tried to get authorities to issue a restraining order in that time, to no avail.

“For the past three years He started to treat me harshly and not nicely. I complained to the police many times. The Israel police asked me to take out a restraining order,” he told the court, according to Newsweek.

God didn’t show up to a protocol hearing, the court ruled, though as the Times points out, it’s unclear how the court knew he was there and simply exercising his right to remain silent.

The man argued that over a three-year span, God had displayed a “seriously negative attitude towards him,” according to the Times.

In yet another unfortunate event for the petitioner, the judge ruled his case “ludicrous” and said he needed help from other sources outside the court.

Citing a Hebrew-language news site, Walla, the Times says the publication didn’t get a statement “from any of the multitude of available spokespeople on behalf of the Lord.”

Unnamed man, Raw Story 11 Comments [5/8/2016 3:46:23 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 118797

A South Carolina tow truck driver said God told him to leave a disabled Bernie Sanders supporter stranded along the interstate.

Cassy McWade was involved in a car crash near Asheville, North Carolina, and her family called their regular mechanic to drive 45 minutes north from his shop to haul her wrecked vehicle back for repairs, reported WHNS-TV.

Ken Shupe, owner of Shupee Max Towing, arrived about an hour later and began hooking McWade’s car up to his truck — until he spotted the Sanders campaign sticker on her bumper and the yard sign placed in her rear window.

“He goes around back and comes back and says, ‘I can’t tow you,'” McWade said. “My first instinct was there must be something wrong with the car, and he says, ‘No, you’re a Bernie supporter.’ And I was like, ‘Wait — really?’ And he says, ‘Yes ma’am,’ and just walks away.”

Shupe offered a supernatural explanation for his decision to leave the 25-year-old McWade, who suffers from arthritis and other health conditions, alongside I-26.

“Something came over me, I think the Lord came to me, and He just said, ‘Get in the truck and leave,'” Shupe said. “And when I got in my truck, you know, I was so proud, because I felt like I finally drew a line in the sand and stood up for what I believed.”

The Donald Trump supporter then offered a more earthly explanation for stranding the customer.

“Every business dealing in recent history with a socialist-minded person I have not gotten paid,” Shupe said. “I own this truck. It says, ‘Shupee,’ not ‘freebie.’ Every time I deal with these people I get ‘Berned’ with a ‘e’ — not a ‘u’.”

Ken Shupe, Raw Story 71 Comments [5/8/2016 3:45:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 118795

(Italicized words are definitions of words in the article)

BJP gets on its Hindutva hobby horse in Tamil Nadu

After failing to form an alliance of any significance, the BJP in Tamil Nadu has harked back to its old formula of Hindutva politics.

The saffron tint in the manifesto it released last week was obvious. Apart from its long-time pet projects such as protection of cows, the party this time went more adventurous.

From enactment of a strong anti-conversion law to removing State control of temples, the party’s focus was on the hardcore Hindu urban voter.

There were also assurances to specific caste groups the party has been targeting over the past two years.

In fact, the section titled “Independent functioning of Hindu temples” was the biggest after the one for education, occupying almost two pages. The party wants to give the administration of temples, now under the control of the State Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments department, to a committee consisting of religious elders, scholars and former judges. Places of worship of other religions would not be allowed within a radius of 1 km of temples.

At the event to release the manifesto, BJP national secretary H. Raja, the brain behind the document, accused the DMK of minority appeasement for stating in its manifesto that sale of temple lands would be considered under certain circumstances whereas the Wakf Board lands under encroachment would be retrieved.

The manifesto also promised implementation of a 1958 GO that barred leasing of temple lands to non-Hindus. Perhaps, the most bizarre assurance was an immediate halt to community feats arranged in temples on birth anniversaries of atheists. Though he was not named, community feasts do take place on the birthday of rationalist and former Chief Minister C.N. Annadurai.

Also, goshalas (cowsheds) would be established in temples and prasadams (sweets) would be made only from ghee (melted butter) of the cows from the goshalas.

Income-based quota

There were other controversial elements, too. The party promised reservation on the basis of income. The Congress reacted immediately, calling the promise a challenge to the Scheduled Castes and Backward Classes. It said when converts being brought under reserved categories affected the Hindus already in the group.

BJP, The Hindu 6 Comments [5/8/2016 3:44:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 118792

Honestly believe this president is Gay. No other president has been so consumed with the gay agenda. Last I checked straight men do not frequent gay bars. Yes and thanks to Obamanation we may just have a load of them immigrating into our services very soon if not already. Funny how we had few muslims in the US and we get this president and now we not only have mosques going up everywhere but we have 300,000 being brought in on a free pass. Oh and if you think I'm being mean, check their doctrine and you may find that anyone who does not convert will be destroyed. Oh and forget gays and all this other perversion going on . In their book you die. Women ... dogs. Children property. Woot woot bring more here. terrorists win when we become passive . Spill you thinking to Israel and see if they agree with you. Terrorists love people who believe there is no threat. you care only about yourself and not society as a whole. No you need to read your bible. God's people only killed people in the land they took over just like any other people who go in to possess a land. As for laws in the bible that if broken required death. Those were carried out by the courts just like in America or any other country. God's people never were allowed to force conversion and put to death those who would not do so. If you are talking about Roman Catholics... most don't consider them to be Christian. Their history is as the Muslims who kill those who disagree with them. The word of God never condones killing those who do not believe as you do. The main theme is love not hate. Study the word of God and then study the Quran. One is based on love and the other hate. Sure but funny how all of a sudden we are deciding to do so only for muslims . And not just a few but hundred of thousands at a time. Hmmmm terrorists destroy those who are passive just like 911. Who think there is no threat and sleep as they plan. The Quran their holy book commands them to destroy any who do not convert. This is the belief of the people you and others wish to bring into the USA. You are closing your eyes to the danger of bringing in people with a belief system that demands the conversion of the whole world to what they believe or be killed and not by courts but by individuals of their faith. It's their duty as a muslim. STUDY their book! Check his records and eye witnesses in Chicago gay bars and you may change your view.

ComeOnPeople!, Christian News Network 16 Comments [5/8/2016 3:43:24 AM]
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Quote# 118791

Here is a goofy woman, Jennifer Heldmann (a so-called NASA “scientist”), who actually thinks the moon came into existence by dust and hot gases somehow forming a sun in their center, then somehow began to swirl around the new sun, sticking together by hit-and-miss collisions, and THAT'S HOW THE SOLAR SYSTEM FORMED! What an intellectual whacko!

Miss Heldmann concurs with her peers at NASA that the moon came into existence by a Marr's-sized asteroid crashing into the earth, breaking off a big junk of the planet, and then somehow became our orbital moon! OH BOY!!! You've got to be joking! Please tell me you are kidding! Sadly, they are 100% serious and this is official textbook curriculum to youth these days. Clearly, this is all intended to substitute for faith in a divine Creator and the Holy Bible. Alternative explanations of how the universe formed, that contradict the plain teachings of the Word of God that say God created everything, are utter wickedness!!!

Arrogantly, and sinfully, unbelieving scientists have decided that the bogus theory of two planetary objects colliding into one another is now a “FACT”. That is gross intellectual incompetence. Unsaved scientists, in a desperate attempt to look scholarly and competent, declare mere bizarre and speculative insane theories as Gospel fact. By doing so, they are proving that they don't really care about THE TRUTH. They are far more interested in receiving additional government funding, which is all controlled by Luciferian secret societies behind Washington D.C. politics. The Luciferian elite have infiltrated nearly all learning institutions, the legal system, Hollywood, corporate America, the newsmedia, the entertainment industry, Freemasonry, and even the churches and many Bible colleges.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 26 Comments [5/8/2016 3:43:21 AM]
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Quote# 118789

Here's some actual truth as opposed to your propaganda.

The Numbers

New HIV Infectionsb

• In 2010, gay and bisexual men accounted for 63% of estimated new HIV infections in the United States and 78% of infections among all newly infected men. From 2008 to 2010, new HIV infections increased 22% among young (aged 13-24) gay and bisexual men and 12% among gay and bisexual men overall.

• Among all gay and bisexual men, white gay and bisexual men accounted for 11,200 (38%) estimated new HIV infections in 2010. The largest number of new infections among white gay and bisexual men (3,300; 29%) occurred in those aged 25 to 34.

• Among all gay and bisexual men, black/African American gay and bisexual men accounted for 10,600 (36%) estimated new HIV infections in 2010. The largest number of new infections among black/African American gay and bisexual men (4,800; 45%) occurred in those aged 13 to 24. From 2008 to 2010 new infections increased 20% among young black/African American gay and bisexual men aged 13 to 24.

• Among all gay and bisexual men, Hispanic/Latino gay and bisexual men accounted for 6,700 (22%) estimated new HIV infections in 2010. The largest number of new infections among Hispanic/Latino gay and bisexual men (3,300; 39%) occurred in those aged 25 to 34.

HIV and AIDS Diagnosesc

• In 2013, in the United States, gay and bisexual men accounted for 81% (30,689) of the 37,887 estimated HIV diagnoses among all males aged 13 years and older and 65% of the 47,352 estimated diagnoses among all persons receiving an HIV diagnosis that year.

• In 2013, gay and bisexual men accounted for 55% of the estimated number of persons diagnosed with AIDS among all adults and adolescents in the United States. Of the estimated 14,611 gay and bisexual men diagnosed with AIDS, 40% were blacks/African Americans; 32% were whites; and 23% were Hispanics/Latinos.

• By the end of 2011, an estimated 311,087 gay and bisexual men with AIDS had died in the United States since the beginning of the epidemic, representing 47% of all deaths of persons with AIDS.

• In 2011, CDC data showed that 80.6% of MSM with diagnosed HIV infection were linked to care, 57.5% were retained in care, 52.9% were prescribed antiretroviral therapy (ART), and 44.6% had achieved viral suppression.

Sounds much more like a Homosexual issue than a Heterosexual one.. Remember the Homosexual population isn't more than 2 percent.

Charles, Christian News Network 50 Comments [5/8/2016 3:42:04 AM]
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Quote# 118787

Five children who entertained armed militants earlier this year at an Oregon standoff waited until their mother took a shower before grabbing her guns and seeking refuge from her alleged abuse.

The children, who perform as the Sharp Family Singers at right-wing demonstrations, got a ride from a neighbor Friday and went to the sheriff’s office — where they detailed their allegations of beatings and other abuse, reported the Kansas City Star.

They testified Wednesday during a 2 1/2-hour hearing in Shawnee County that their mother, Odalis Sharp, beat them several times a week with a rod and belt, shoved soap in their mouths, called them names and slapped their faces and private parts.

A social worker also testified that Sharp refused to cooperate during a neglect investigation earlier this year and then during a follow-up report of emotional and physical abuse.

“They said it’s typical to always receive some type of bruising and other times have bled from the swats,” the social worker testified. “The children told me they were fearful. They did not want to return to their mother.”

A sheriff’s deputy testified that one boy who fled told investigators that his mother had beaten one sibling until the child’s nose bled — and continued to beat the child.

“He described a spanking that consisted of 47 swats,” the deputy testified. “He described that after 27 spankings, the child started to bleed from the nose, and 20 more spanks occurred after that.”

Sharp admitted to using a rod to punish her children.

“A lot of my friends know that I use a rod,” Sharp testified. “That is not a secret.”

Their father, who divorced the children’s mother in 2012 and now lives in Denver, cried during their testimony, and a judge found probable cause to place seven of Sharp’s 10 children into temporary custody of the Kansas Department of Children and Families.

Sharp, who was arrested Friday but not charged in connection with an assault on a law enforcement officer serving an eviction notice, angrily denied the allegations of abuse outside the court hearing.

“We need to turn to God, because the system is corrupt,” Sharp said. “They lie, they twist, they make false charges, they abuse people, and then they turn around and put people in prison, and then they accuse them of abuse.”

That’s pretty much what Sharp said the last time one of her children was removed from her care and placed into protective custody over previous abuse allegations.

Sharp said her son, then 15, had run away from home because he was unhappy with “the right, wholesome and pure path in which I was leading him — in which God was leading us.”

The single mother of 10 dragged seven of her children to the Malheur National Wildlife Preserve, where they sang patriotic and religious songs for the armed militants who took over the federally owned land and refused to leave until their anti-government demands were met.

Many of those militants have been arrested on a variety of federal charges, and Sharp’s daughter, Victoria Sharp, witnessed the FBI fatal shooting of militant rancher LaVoy Finicum.

The 18-year-old Sharp has become a right-wing celebrity after accusing federal agents of “murdering” Finicum as he attempted to surrender — although many of her claims are not supported by video and other evidence.

The mother claimed she was being punished by the government.

“The federal government hates us right now, because my daughter is a primary witness of a murder they committed,” Odalis Sharp said. “And so what do they do? They want the Sharp family out, and so they divide and conquer.”

“They don’t listen to the truth,” she added. “There is no truth.”

Odalis Sharp, Raw Story 15 Comments [5/8/2016 3:41:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 118784

And what did Jesus say about homosexuality, Last Trump? Please. Take your time...

Nice try, trollster. Look it up.
Everybody knows the Bible's position on that particular topic.
Open and shut.
Hence the revisions taking place only NOW in a generation of shameful moral bankruptcy, hedonistic debauchery and depravity after so many generations of clear understanding and worldwide acceptance.
Go figure.

"Troll"?
Isn't it interesting how the Christians instantly go for the name-calling.
I need to bring you back to the topic at hand, we are discussing Jesus' words on homosexuality. We can discuss moral bankruptcy, hedonistic debauchery and depravity later if you like, they're not relevant at the moment.

Asked and answered.
The Bible is crystal clear on our Creator's position on homosexuality.
And on WHO wrote that Bible.
Now, WHO is our Creator? WHO wrote the Bible?
And what DID Jesus have to say about THAT? AND about marriage?
Let me know when you're done trolling and care for actual knowledge regarding what you clearly don't understand.
But forgive me if I don't hold my breath.

Asked but not answered. So we have now concluded that you are unable to find a single passage in the Bible in which Jesus directly condemns, or even addresses, the issue of homosexuality. Thank you.

Your conclusion is in error.
As is your understanding of Christianity and the Bible.
But keep stalking the Christians on the Christian website!
You're bound to learn something. Eventually.

So we have established, then, that Jesus said precisely nothing about homosexuality. Thank you, Last Trump.

It doesn't matter how many times you keep telling yourself that, it just doesn't make it true. Reality just doesn't work that way :(
You've been spending too much time with liberal lefty's, Muffin!
No wonder you're so confused!
You should check out fstdt dot com and read through all of the pearls of wisdom archived there by our devout followers. You'll actually feel yourself getting smarter! No worries bud. You're most welcome!
And tell them TRUMP sent you!

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 31 Comments [5/7/2016 5:15:36 AM]
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Quote# 118782

It is simply obnoxious to ever accuse God of encroaching on your rights, because in your relationship with God, you don’t have any rights. He owns you, and He can do whatever He wants with you. There is no sense in which He must provide you with options in life. He doesn’t have to give you any choice about anything, and He certainly doesn’t have to get your approval before carrying out His own will. The way things work right now, God does give us options in life, and He says the choices we make play a big role in shaping our future with Him. But while God is currently choosing to give us choices, we need to remember that He doesn’t have to. God doesn’t have to do anything—that’s one of the many perks of being the Creator of all things.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 17 Comments [5/7/2016 5:15:15 AM]
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Quote# 118781

A fundie asks, does martial arts inner power come from jinn? Answers follow . . .

Abu Kamel says
Before I was Muslim, I studied one martial art many years ago and in the advanced stages, the sensei invoked pagan shirk beliefs of elementalism which I later identified with Buddhism and Confucianism.

I did not consider the roll of jinn at that time, but in retrospect, I would not put it past some of the mushrikeen practitioners.

But as for enhancing or channelling "inner power, chi", through certain techniques, it could possibly include invocation to jinn. One would need to study and analyze this deeper though.

In terms of exerting power, one can train one's body to do so without committing shirk. The human body can increase and decrease in strength by extensive training.

Superhuman strength is another matter though. Many martial art legends and myths include strories of superhuman events. These are usually mythical stories.

snow flakes says
There was a story of a muslim revert who used to practice in shaolin temple for chi and the stuff when he was not muslim...he had suffered multiple possesions.Ultimately those jinns were removed...in many sessions.He told that its the last step before beinv called as master...that they used to sit infront of idols and channrl demons through body...He was lucky to be saved by grace of Allah ..many arent.

Abu Kamel again . .
Today, the Muslim should be wary of involvement in any traditional martial arts school in the event that occult shirk practices are enshrined. It is known that shayateen jinn colloborate and mislead mushrikeen of all kinds, including martial artists such that a "master" could be fooled into thinking he has special powers until the shayateen trick him and his students into shirk akbar.

One should also note the mythology surrounding an art, such as the concept of "chi" as superhuman power, is really a means of drawing in naive and unknowing students, and the martial bluster against competitors and competing arts.

On the flip side, the utilitarian trend of measuring all martial arts based on MMA effectiveness does not accurately measure the lethality of an art form. There is always at least three variables: the practitioner, the art form, the circumstances.

Abu Kamel and snow flakes, ummah.com 14 Comments [5/7/2016 5:15:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 118779

(In reference to the NC anti-LGBT law.)

Anti-"Freak of Nature" laws? You mean anti-special privilege, for the snowflakes?

Time to put on the big mama panties.


If you want go around like a freak of nature, deal with the consequences from society. You better wear who you are like a badge of honor, or you will soon feel like you have no value to the world.(why is the suicidal % rate of the LGBT communities per capita, so great??
You are not born gay.... Only the breeding classes pass a gene to keep it going. That crap would have been culled long ago.
Being gay is taught, through acquaintances.
Being LGBT is a choice, after being taught by someone else.......

BentBow, City Data 15 Comments [5/7/2016 5:14:23 AM]
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Submitted By: ScrappyB

Quote# 118778


Run them over and shoot them for good measure.

[ For people who brag so much about freedom and liberty you guys are in a pretty authoritarian and opressive vibe right now. ]


You have the right to protest all you want.

What you don’t have the right to do is block anyone else’s right to free travel or destroy private property as part of your “protest”

One of the only legitimate purposes of the state is to step in when one person’s rights begin to infringe on another persons. In that instance, shooting rioters dead is completely justified and telling people in the middle of a highway to move or get run over is fucking fine with me, even if it’s not necessarily legal.

bill-11b, tumblr 16 Comments [5/7/2016 5:14:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 118777

MAN AND BEAST ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

by Tony Alamo

Man and beast are completely different. God’s Word makes this very clear once and for all. God’s Word states, “All flesh is NOT the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of ‘men’, another flesh of ‘beasts’, another of ‘fishes’, and another of ‘birds’” (1Cor. 15:39). Here God shows us that we did not evolve from monkeys or any other animal because we are completely different, even our flesh. If you like believing you have descended from a monkey, then go ahead! But as for me, I believe God. I am a human made in the image of God, not a monkey!!

I didn’t crawl or swim out of the ocean, either. Again God’s Word says there is “another [flesh] of fishes, and another of birds” (1Cor. 15:39). So I never flew out of a nest, either. Even if I did, I’m not the same as a bird.

The people of the earth are deceived, and they don’t care. That is why God says they are mad (crazy, insane). “And the great dragon was cast out [of Heaven], that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world” (Rev 12:9). “In that day [the end of time], saith the Lord, I will smite every horse [symbolic of nation or power] with astonishment, and his rider [the leader of the country] with madness [insanity]” (Zech 12:4). If secular leaders are so smart, why is everything so crazy—insane in the secular world?

Tony Alamo, Tony Alamo Christian Ministries 16 Comments [5/7/2016 5:14:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 118776



Rowdy Conservatives, Facebook 40 Comments [5/6/2016 3:20:26 AM]
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Quote# 118775

How is Abortion good?

One: It lets some people enjoy procreation without having to raise a child.

Two: It lets rapists get away with their crime without any consequence.

Three: It helps make income for the abortion mills who would otherwise have to find another job.

Four: It makes population control easier for eugenists and racists.

Five: It helps abusive boyfriends/husbands keep women in line.

Six: It lets sex traffickers keep using women as chattel without a baby getting in the way.

Then again…I guess that’s bad. But it’s true nonetheless.

Lovekindnessmercycompassion, Tumblr 26 Comments [5/6/2016 3:20:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 118774

John Calvin defines the “flower of her age” (1 Corinthians 7:36) as “from twelve to twenty years of age”. Likewise, John Gill defines it as “one of twelve years and a half old”. And Martin Luther says, “A young man should marry at the age of twenty at the latest, a young woman at fifteen to eighteen…” We do not endorse marriage at ages as young as twelve. Our position is that, for a woman:

1. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage has breasts. A woman who is to be married is one who has breasts; breasts which signal her readiness for marriage, and breasts who promise enjoyment for her husband. (We believe that ‘breasts’ here stand as a symbol for all forms of full secondary sexual characteristics.)

2. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage is ready to bear children. Unlike modern society Scripture sees the woman as a bearer, nurser, and raiser of children. The ‘young woman’ is the woman whose body is physically ready for these things, physically mature enough to handle them without damage.

3. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage is one who is ready for sexual intercourse sexually and emotionally. Her desire is for her husband, and she is ready to rejoice in him physically.

(...)

[W]e know from scientific studies (as well as first-hand knowledge, in many cases) that the fertility of women (and even men, to some extent) goes down steadily after the age of 20, and dips even more sharply after 30 and 40. This is even more the case if a woman has reached such an age without having had any children yet. So, by reason of these facts, it is clear that it is best to marry much earlier than 30 to better fulfill the command to be “fruitful and multiply”.

(...)

Scripture speaks of the father of the son “taking a wife” for his son, and the father of the bride “giving” her to her husband…. It gives example after example of young women being given to young men, without the young woman even being consulted, and often, in some of the most Godly marriages in Scripture, the young man is not consulted….

Some use the idea of “consent” to deny the very relevance of the action of their authorities to bind them in covenant, as if a covenant was of no effect whatsoever and all that matters is what the person themselves decide. Others consider a covenant to be something substantial but that it is not really binding until the person themselves “consents”.

In contrast, our study of Scripture has shown that the Word of God considers a covenant made by an authority to be meaningful and binding upon the those under his or her authority. Biblical consent is not the “consent” of dating or courtship. It is not a “veto” power. It does not presume to cast judgment over their father’s actions. And so, a lack of consent of the individual concerned is a choice of disobedience, a breach of a vow and of a relationship. God has designed the marriage relationship (in particular that of the virgin daughter marrying the virgin son) to be a relationship initiated by the parents, in particular the fathers, of the young couple. This is the example that God uses constantly in Scripture, and even where an example strays from this, these principles are still kept in focus.

(...)

Bride price: What is it, and why is it important? Wouldn’t a bride price be like selling your daughter? A “bride price” is anything paid or given by the man or his representative at the time of his betrothal or receiving his bride.

Scripture certainly teaches about it, but it is not mandated, however, except in the case of a couple of laws. The law concerning bride price (Exodus 22:16-17) indicates that part of the punishment for fornication with an unbetrothed woman is the payment of a “standard” bride price for virgins, indicating that the bride price was a normal part of the marriage process.

The bride price plays a significant function: It shows the woman’s value, and the point isn’t that the father gets the money but that he keeps it for his daughter, if her husband should ever abandon her

Vaughn Ohlman, Raw Story 27 Comments [5/6/2016 3:12:44 AM]
Fundie Index: 22
Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 118773

A Missouri Republican called pregnancy that results from rape a “silver lining,” according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

State Rep. Tila Hubrecht was speaking in favor of a potential ballot measure that, if approved by voters, would grant unborn fetuses the same constitutional rights as American citizens.

“It is not up to us to say ‘no just because there was a rape, they cannot exist,’” Hubrecht said, during debate on the matter. “Sometimes bad things happen — horrible things, but sometimes God can give us a silver lining through the birth of a child.”

The measure would amend the state constitution by asking voters to “protect pregnant women and unborn children by recognizing that an unborn child is a person with a right to life which cannot be deprived by state or private action without due process and equal protection of law.”

Opponents say the results could be banning abortion in cases of rape or when the life of the mother is in jeopardy, and could also include outlawing of contraception.

Hubrecht also said she had complications during the birth of one of her children and had made the doctor promise to save the baby’s life even if it meant she would lose her own.

“When God gives life, he does so because there’s a reason, no matter what,” she said. “I’ve met and talked with the different people who have been conceived by rape. There is a reason for their life.”

Rep. Tila Hubrecht, Raw Story 23 Comments [5/6/2016 3:12:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 118771

I have a dream, I have a real dream, that Donald Trump wins. Oh, do I have a dream. I have a dream that when Donald Trump wins, the new Justice Department goes after the ACLU. I have a dream that all the Marvins and the Glorias and all their ill-gotten gains will be seized by the government and they will either run for the hills or be thrown in the slammer. I have a dream that when Donald Trump becomes president, George Soros finds that there’s not a country on earth that he can hide in because he is hated around the world for what he has done to every currency on the planet. I have a dream.

Michael Savage, Right Wing Watch 73 Comments [5/6/2016 3:11:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 118770

These cucks are so cucked they can't see the bigger picture. If the Jews hate Trump he must be Doin something right

C-S-Memes4FashyGoys, Twitter 21 Comments [5/6/2016 3:10:37 AM]
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Quote# 118769

•The Earth is flat, surrounded by ice, topped with a dome, and the sun and moon go around parallel to the earth. Neither is the sun nor the moon a sphere.

•There are stars but no outer space. Aliens are demons from inner space, not extraterrestrials from outer space.

•Every rocket or shuttle launch travels up to about 80,000 feet then levels off and ditches into the ocean, and a carefully crafted, identical prop shows up for the news cameras.

•Mankind has never gone to the moon, let alone walked on it. The “moon landings” were all staged events in movie studios. Both the sun and the moon were created by God to be light sources to the Earth, nothing more.

•Evolution as taught in the schools is a religious farce, a cruel joke, an outright blasphemous lie from those who hate God and the truth of God’s holy Word.

•All of the history books are full of brainwashing propaganda instead of proven facts.

•In 1963-’64, the public schools kicked God, the Bible and prayer out of children’s lives, satisfying the wicked pride of certain parents and plunging our future into spiritual darkness.

•The public school system has been teaching lies ever since, letting students’ grades slip but allowing them to graduate anyway. Hard work is avoided and shunned. Students are told that they are good even when they are bad, and vice versa. Teachers no longer teach, they indoctrinate.

•Nonsense like CERN, pandemics, and false flag events like 911 are designed by satanic fearmongers to subdue and submit those who are blind to the Truth of God’s Word and the truth of our own senses.

•Big Brother-type surveillance cameras are everywhere. We are being carefully watched, with facial and retinal scans becoming more commonplace, especially at the borders of our country. Personal privacy, like our God-given morals, is now a thing of the past.

•Jobs are being relocated overseas, which is why it’s so difficult to find a job here in the “Untied States.”

•McDonald’s, Walmart, and other major stores and restaurants are in bed with and working for the elite.

•The economy is imploding and the stock markets often show signs of plummeting. A cashless society is imminent.

•There are miles of underground tunnels and cities for the wealthy and powerful of society. They believe they will survive the onslaught of death to 90% of all humankind as inscripted on the Georgia Guidestones.

•People in general do not work in the Biblical sense, they have a job but take it for granted, or they merely survive on government welfare and are considered by some to be parasites to the failing economy.

•That many, if not all, of our leaders of this country have been/are Freemasons, even the ones who claim(ed) to be Christians.

•The superabundance of lies upon lies from the newsmedia, the entertainment industry, and Hollywood. Real truth, worldwise, is outlawed as lies and ignored.

•There is a handful of powerful elite (Illuminati, the “enlightened ones”) controlling the world and everything in it who are in alliance and directly under Satan, the god of this world, the prince of the power of the air.

•The in-your-face symbolism, such as the devil-horns, the six-six-six, the one hand covering one eye, the pyramid, etc., of allegiance to Satan from the entertainment industry, the newsmedia, government leaders, world bankers, and powerful heads of royalty.

•The sharp rise in wickedness and fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.

•I am determined more than ever to be a witness to the lost, to lead folks to Jesus Christ, the only Way to Heaven.

•I am determined more than ever to promote and live by the 1611 Authorized Version King James Bible.

•I am determined more than ever to attend and support my home church in every way God gives to me.

•Other bible versions, though easier to read, lack the spiritual power and authority of the KJB to convict hearts and save souls.

•World religionism cannot and will not allow true Biblical Christianity.

•Jesus Christ is blasphemously downplayed as weak and powerless, instead of the Omnipotent King of kings and Lord of lords that the Bible says He is. God is not “the man upstairs,” He is the Creator of all things, and your very life is in His hands.

•The signs of Antichrist’s impending arrival are part of every broadcast and are swallowed up by weak-minded people (sheeple).

•The “chip” (the mark of the Beast) is encouraged and thought of as “cool,” and will soon be mandatory.

•I realize that I may be and am persecuted for my faith.

kingjameswriter1965, I Hate The Internet But I Love Jesus 36 Comments [5/6/2016 3:10:21 AM]
Fundie Index: 32

Quote# 118768

My family and I had gone to my son’s graduation yesterday. Supposedly a joyous occasion, I was disappointed that those kids were mostly in the Devil’s camp, trusting in works, achievements and do-gooding, receiving their temporary reward now and not laying up treasures in Heaven. Nothing was mentioned about the God of the King James Bible, although several of the speakers did mention a few NIV verses (I say NIV because by and large that’s the world’s bible).

I was saddened when I saw that one of the brightest young ladies who had achieved so much for herself in school is a LGBT pusher. It’s so sad to see so many young folks, having been brainwashed by the Communistic public school system, raring to get out and conquer the world, and precious few know or want to know Jesus Christ, the One Who gives true satisfaction, not just from works but a personal relationship with Him, the everlasting God of Heaven and earth.

There were over 1,000 young people present to receive their congratulations and diplomas, but how many will receive a “Well done, thou good and faithful servant” from the lips of Jesus Christ? Only God knows.

kingjameswriter1965, I Hate The Internet But I Love Jesus 19 Comments [5/6/2016 3:10:06 AM]
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