Quote# 123440

Lutheranism is just as bad as Catholicism.

Did you know that Lutheran theology teaches that Jesus couldn't become incarnate without first obtaining Mary's permission? Lutheran's practice their own form of Mary worship.

Read this shocking Lutheran heresy found at http://orthodoxlutheran.fws1.com/bvm/books.html...

In 1996, Pope John Paul II concluded that the title 'Mother of God' "proclaims the nobility of woman and her very high vocation. God, in effect, treats Mary as a free and responsible person and does not fulfill the Incarnation of his Son until after he has obtained her consent." Lutherans fully agree with this understanding of Mary.


Are you getting this? Lutherans believe that God could not come to the earth incarnate without Mary's PERMISSION. If you read the Bible, you'll quickly learn that Mary was ALREADY pregnant before she or Joseph knew what was going on. God did NOT need or ask for Mary's permission.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 32 Comments [1/4/2017 8:03:16 PM]
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Quote# 123438

Christians will be different. They've done studies on the brain...New areas lighten up.

Christian's main goal does not have to be pursue pleasure, avoid pain.

They come to have No Fear!! Thus pain is not avoided...Not bothered at all.

Atheists have the atheist Gene, are horizontal viewers, can't do anything
Spiritually. If arrogance is a drug, they overdose.

Drugs leads ppl into false religious thought so likely atheists might not do
Heavy drugs, but pot?

Addicted to approval in their own group for sure.

Many have no standards sexually, don't care about others.
Maybe wham, bam, than you, man.

Part of freedom...to destroy.

Christians learn to live righteously, a high calling.
Worth it.

2FollowHim, Yahoo! answers 25 Comments [1/4/2017 8:02:53 PM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

Quote# 123437

"Can we really be living in a time where people ACTUALLY dispute evolution?"

As much as we're in a time when people who have brains in their head ACTUALLY put any stock in the theory of evolution. It just boggles the mind that people can be that stupid.

"So you dispute ALL the science, the libraries of information, the universities, the data, all of it? May I ask what your definition of "stupid" is?"

Except there's NOTHING but guesswork, conjecture, and spin in that "ALL the science, libraries of information, the universities, the data". The definition of "stupid" would be putting stock in that nonsense that isn't proven and can't possibly be proven.

"I think the thing to do when someone's proven you to be wrong is to be gracious in defeat, and not keep telling the people who've given you mountains of evidence that all they have is conjecture. Because they don't. To have the arrogance to do that in the face of a scientist is shocking. Would you tell a brain surgeon he is wrong too?"

So you're planning on being gracious in defeat? Let's see it.

SEDAGIV, Disqus - Religion 12 Comments [1/4/2017 8:02:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 123436

Police in India say they have credible evidence that widespread sexual assaults took place at New Year's Eve celebrations in Bangalore.
Several women have said they were molested by mobs of men, though police say they have had no official complaints from victims yet.
One woman, a marketing professional who asked to be identified only as Pooja, was at the event and told the BBC what happened to her.

Pooja's story
On 31 December, we decided to go to a bar on Mahatma Gandhi (MG) Road. At 11.30 I came out to make a call and found that everything was quiet and calm.
At 12:30 my friend who was to pick me up called me to say that the police had put barricades and he had to park his motorbike at the Shankar Nag theatre. He told me to start walking towards that side and he would meet me halfway. I said goodbye to my friends and started walking towards the Brigade Road side.

Athlete saves girls from 'molesters'
India anger as minister blames 'Western' behaviour
#NotAllMen angers Indian women

In between, I saw people rushing and walking but I did not expect them to do anything. I believed Bangalore was a safe city until then. What happened next shocked me a lot.

People were pushing and shoving, touching, grabbing, groping and everything was happening on that street. It was not only to me. It was happening to other girls too. They were all scared. 'I felt so helpless'. Suddenly, someone pushed me and I fell down. There was no-one to pick me up. Then a group of girls helped me get up. Their friends had formed a circle around them so they could walk safely.
I asked them if I could go with them. Even then when we were walking, there were guys who were trying to touch here and there.

Police used batons to push back the crowds at points. There was not a single face you could make out or who was doing it. As soon as you turned you would be groped or grabbed. There were so many people there that you could not pinpoint who was doing it. There was a lathi [baton] charge on Brigade Road so people were running in all directions.

I felt helpless. Although I have hands and legs and I could abuse and slap them, I could not do anything. I didn't know who was touching me and groping me.
When I came and told my friends, they asked me who were the people? Were they from the slum? I had no answer.

In the pub too, groping was happening. When we pay 6,000-7,000 rupees ($88; £72) to go to a pub to get entry to celebrate, you expect people to be of a certain class. At least, that they wouldn't do such things. These people weren't illiterate or uneducated.

They don't know what effect it has on a girl's life. It has an everlasting impact.
Who would I file a complaint against? I don't know a face or name. Even if I go to the police, they will ask who the complaint is against.

Police have asked people to send in any evidence of assaults. There were so many people that the policemen were highly outnumbered. It was not possible for them to keep a watch on each and every person.

This has become a big issue in the last three days. Why hasn't any action been taken? What are they waiting for? Yes, I have been through such situations earlier. But I have punched, slapped and complained to nearby authorities. I have been in Bangalore for three years. I thought it was a safe city.
Seeing this mass molestation was really shocking. When I spoke to some people, I was told that this had happened last year as well. So why weren't arrangements made? Instead of pretending nothing will happen, authorities should make efforts to curb this.

Pooja was talking to BBC Hindi's Imran Qureshi.

Numerous Indian men, BBC News 3 Comments [1/4/2017 8:02:29 PM]
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Quote# 123430

[Can we just declare the GOP an anti-constitution hate group, already???]

Don't you guys burn flags because your candidate lost?

Logan Yankee, Facebook 23 Comments [1/4/2017 6:51:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 123427

Public schools should be abolished. They have failed to achieve what they were sold to the American public as (there are still great inequalities in education based on regional wealth) - and, as Thomas Paine wrote - "government is a punisher". All it can do is punish - no matter how noble the putative intent. So why do we punish our children and their parents?

Grady R Patterson, Facebook 29 Comments [1/4/2017 6:51:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 123425

No husband should trust his wife to be alone with the opposite sex, and vise versa. This is good sense. I realize that most people today laugh at such moral standards, but that is to be expected in a society that flocks to SIN CITY Las Vegas to indulge in wickedness. That is to be expected in a society that legalizes booze, pornography, gambling, dirty dancing, and prostitution. Woe unto America!

If You Think Your Husband or Father is Control Freak, Then You Definitely Won't Like God

Photo to Left: Christ-rejecting blasphemers are selling "God is a control freak" T-shirts.

God is a loving God, but He is an authoritative God as well. The Bible is extremely AUTHORITATIVE! The Bible is filled with COMMANDS from God... THOU SHALT NOT _____!!! Ever heard of the Ten Commandments? God has told us what to do in His Word, and if we are smart we will comply.

Women who refuse to obey their husband are disobeying God, because God commands wives to obey their husband (1st Peter 3:1). If you don't like an authoritative husband, who is jealous, controlling, takes charge, wants everything done his way, and continually monitors you--then you will absolutely hate God.

There is a direct correlation between a woman's attitude towards an authoritative husband, and her attitude towards God. Those foolish women who think God is a compromising teddy bear are greatly deceived. God DEMANDS that all mankind repent (Acts 17:30). God has given us His Ten COMMANDMENTS! Those who refuse to OBEY God will burn in Hellfire forever (2nd Thessalonians 1:8,9).

I've heard women label authoritative husbands and fathers as being "control freaks" or "controlling." Society today crucifies such men as being "abusive," when in reality they are just being like God. Should it be surprising that T-shirts are being sold online which read... "GOD IS A CONTROL FREAK"? Repent America! Repent!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 25 Comments [1/4/2017 6:51:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 123424

The Force Is Not With You!

Some big names in the Media Industry – which necessarily includes the movie, music and comedy arms of it – this year, died these past three days. God’s mercy proves their end could have been much worse:

Revelation 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains.

December 25, 2016 – George Michael (singer), proud confused sinner, dead at 53.

December 26, 2016 – Ricky Harris (comedian), proud fornicator and friend of notorious hypocrites (Cedric; Snoop Dogg), dead at 54.

Today, December 27, 2016 – Carrie Fisher, proud drug user and purveyor of mischief via Star Wars, dead at 60.

Don’t let Hollywood lie, creatures have ZERO FORCE.

The rest of you media-types please pay close attention -> God hates lying media.

Westboro Baptist Church, WBC blogs 27 Comments [1/4/2017 6:50:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 123422

Ladies and gentlemen, the reason why tens-of-millions of people are being destroyed in the churches today is BECAUSE THE PASTORS HAVE REJECTED KNOWLEDGE!!! What knowledge (truth) have they rejected? They've rejected the truth that the King James Bible is inspired by God. They've rejected the truth that the modern Bible revisions have been corrupted by Satan to deceive the masses. They've rejected the truth that God only authored one book... THE BOOK!!! If you're not upset, Oh Christian, you are not paying attention!!! It is utterly insane for any so-called “church” to have dozens of different Bible versions in the pews every Sunday. It is tragic and ridiculous when a church pastor searches through multiple Bible versions to find out what God said. The man who has two watches set to different times never knows what time it is; and the man who has two different Bible versions never knows what the Word of God is. Think about it.

Modern Corrupt Bible Versions and Religious Liberals Attack Christ's Deity

The modern corrupt Bible versions and unsaved religious liberals are synonymous. They love each other!!! The Deity of Jesus is under malicious attack by the corrupt Modern Bible revisions. The fathers of the modern Bible revisions, Brooke Westcott (1825-1901) and Fenton Hort (1828-1892), were both members of secret societies. They were unsaved Anglican ministers. Still today, the Anglican church is of the Devil, denying Jesus' Deity.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 23 Comments [1/4/2017 6:50:27 AM]
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Quote# 123421

Us incels and betas been gypped. Ever other decade it was good to be a male

Outside of war being a male was pretty chill. When men commanded respect from our respective women in our looks or social level they respected men.

Now even WIVES lack traditional values like loyalty and honor.

Now all these men born in the good ol days have settled and are pushing the same ideas that helped them in the past. Things like hardwork and education was an actual means to success and marriage. Now more women are in college and are hired more. Having a good job means nothing. There's women that already out earn most men.

All that matters now is your genes now. Dating used to have some degree of free will and not genetically deterministic. Now? You might as well create an incel genetic test to help young men cope.

nontrollingaccount, /r/incels 18 Comments [1/4/2017 6:50:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 123420

IWasMadeThisWay:
This is without a doubt the worst time in history to be a man.

Stagetail:
Yup. At least in the past everyone was guaranteed a mate. Even the lowest peasant would have had an arrangement for marriage or companionship. Now, it's legitimately possible to die alone as a man with no six foot stature, ripped body, etc.

incelthrowaway24:
I'm sure both world wars could take that cake man I'd rather be a virgin sitting at home crying to himself then in the trench seeing my friends die!

IWasMadeThisWay:
You'd rather die a miserable, pathetic sack of shit not being able to find a girlfriend than die on the battlefield with honour and dignity?

IWasMadeThisWay and Stagetail, /r/incels 20 Comments [1/4/2017 6:49:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 123414

Beware of sex-negative MRAs
A casual observer might get the impression that the Men's Rights Movement is growing, since there clearly are more self-identified MRAs now than ever. But actually, most of this growth sadly consists of a cheerleading chorus for the feminist sex abuse industry rather than any real antifeminism.

There is a deep schism in the MRM between sex-positive and sex-negative MRAs which is well illustrated by how Angry Harry is now treated at A Voice for Men. Angry Harry is a venerable old MRA, a founding father of the movement, and for him to be ostracized like that just for being eminently reasonable is a travesty.

AVfM purports to be an MRA site but is actually a cesspool of feminist filth, where they worship radical feminists like TyphonBlue. She is a particularly nasty promoter of the feminist sex abuse industry including the lie that women are equally culpable for sex offenses. TyphonBlue is so extreme and clueless in her feminist thinking that she even attributes my former rage over celibacy to "processing (badly) some sort of overwhelming sexual trauma from his past." In the feminist worldview, sexual abuse is the only explanation for every perceived problem, and any man who disagrees with feminist abuse definitions must have been abused himself and is in denial.

TyphonBlue, the AVfM crowd and other feminists have a special poster boy for female-on-male "rape" in the former marine James Landrith. I always felt James Landrith was one of the most unsavory characters on the entire Internet, as his advocacy for the expansion of rape law has disgusted me for many years now. Even if he were telling the truth, it is patently absurd to take his sob story of female sexual coercion seriously as rape. The story inspires jealousy in normal men instead of sympathy and Landrith is a hypersensitive outlier to be traumatized by whatever experience he had. Angry Harry says so himself,
Furthermore, even if these particular memories were 100% correct, it seemed very unlikely to me that a 'normal' man would be so traumatised - and remain traumatised even 20 years later - by the incidents described in his article. So, as I said, I groaned inwardly, being somewhat depressed at the thought that false memories and/or 'particularly sensitive' victims were invading one of my comfort zones in cyberspace.
Now it turns out this feminist poster boy is exposed as not only a preposterously sensitive moron but a fraud as well. Angry Harry has caught James Landrith carefully changing his story and relying on recovered memories just like any other feminist accuser of the most untrustworthy kind. Now Landrith even claims, based on memories recovered in therapy, that the woman spiked his drink before "raping" him, making the feminist melodrama complete.

I myself called out the female sex-offender charade several years ago. To me, nothing screams bullshit as loudly as claims of sexual abuse by women. I have emphatically stated that women cannot rape men nor sexually abuse boys. I regard it as crucially important for MRAs to make it perfectly clear that we do not acknowledge female sex offenders even in principle. It was clear to me from the beginning that the female sex-offender charade only serves to promote feminist sex laws that ultimately hurt men immeasurably more than it can help a few rare particularly sensitive outliers who are traumatized by female sexual coercion (if they even exist). It is unreasonable to make laws based on hysterical outliers, and most importantly, the laws they want correspond exactly to the most hateful feminist sex laws which hurt innocent men every day. Therefore, I cannot emphasize enough that anyone supporting the female sex-offender charade is not a true MRA. This is a very good test to separate the wheat from the chaff -- ask how someone feels about female sex offenders, and if they respond that male victims of women are marginalized and female sex offenders need to be prosecuted more vigorously (or at all), then they are most certainly not one of us.

The word for such people is feminist or mangina. And now I've got some bonus advice for manginas: If you want to be sex-negative, then there are ways to go about it without catering to the feminist abuse industry and without advertising how stupid you are. For someone brought up in a feminist milieu this might be difficult to grasp, but guess what -- there are ways to prohibit and punish undesirable sexual activity without defining it as "abuse" of some helpless "victim." Traditional moralists have done so for millennia. One example is Islamic sharia law. Another is traditional Christianity and our laws against adultery, fornication, sodomy and so on in place until recently. Even obscenity can be dealt with on grounds of morality rather than the hateful and ludicrous persecution of "child porn" we have now, where teenagers are criminalized as sex offenders for sharing "abuse" pictures of themselves. A blanket ban on obscenity such as in the old days would be infinitely better and more fair than this charade. I don't agree with the sex-hostility of traditional morality either, but at least it isn't as retarded as the false-flag MRAs who apply feminist sex abuse theory to males. So if you want to be taken seriously, it would serve you better to advocate for traditional moralist values and laws instead of the feminist sex-abuse nonsense.

When a boy gets lucky with an older woman such as a teacher, quit insisting he was "raped" or "abused," because sexual abuse is not what is going on here. Forcing these relationships into a framework of "rape" or "sexual abuse" designed for women only serves to showcase your lack of intelligence and ignorance of human sexuality. It is also not needed in order to proscribe such behavior if you really believe it needs to be a criminal matter. You can punish the woman (or both) for fornication and/or adultery if you insist on being so sex-hostile. No victimology is needed! No denying the boy got lucky and ludicrously attempting to define him as a "victim." No sucking up to the feminists and no display of extreme imbecility on your part.

I can't really argue with moralism, because it basically consists of preferences about what kind of society you'd like to live in or claims about the will of some deity. It is not in the realm of rationality, so beyond simply agreeing or disagreeing, there isn't all that much to say. But when you make claims about abuse and victimhood like the feminists do, those claims can be tested because they bear relation to the real world and human nature, which is what science is about. Thus scientific methods such as is employed by evolutionary psychology can greatly illuminate the nature of rape and sexual abuse, and whether women can be perpetrators, and it can easily be shown that feminist jurisprudence makes thoroughly unscientific claims. Feminist sex law is neither based on evidence, rationality nor morality and should not be taken seriously. It is mere pseudoscience concocted to justify an ulterior motive. If you still insist on it, you are left with pure absurdity, as is easily demonstrated by a simple thought experiment.

Feminist sex abuse is so arbitrarily defined that if you are blindfolded and transported to a random jurisdiction where you meet a nubile young woman, you would have to consult the wise feminists in the local legislature before knowing if you can feel attracted to her without being an abuser (or even a "pedophile" if you are utterly brainwashed). And if you see a romantic couple, you similarly cannot know if the younger one is being "raped" without consulting the feminists you admire so much. That's how much faith manginas place in feminists -- they allow them to rule their most intimate desires and defer to them unquestioningly. Manginas are feminist sycophants and the MRM is now full of them in places like AVfM, The Spearhead, and the Men's Rights subreddit.

What is going on is this. The manginas are so steeped in feminist propaganda that the only tool in their intellectual toolbox is "abuse." And so in Western countries, even conservatives and religious fanatics (barring Islamists) will only ever argue that any type of sexual activity needs to be banned because it constitutes "abuse." Old concepts of sin or crimes against nature/God have been almost entirely supplanted by the feminist sex "abuse" paradigm. In terms of "abuse" is now the sole means available to conceptualize anything you disapprove of regarding sexuality, so everyone, including devoutly religious people, jumps on the bandwagon and promotes the politically correct abuse industry. Even prostitution is now to be legislated exclusively in terms of sexual exploitation or "trafficking" of (mostly) women -- traditional morality does not enter into it and of course all whores are themselves only innocent victims while the johns are the abusers. Feminists and manginas simply cannot help themselves because they know no other morality after a lifetime of being exposed to feminist propaganda. Feminist theory is so pervasive, any alternative is literally unthinkable for liberals and conservatives alike these days. This is how you get the bizarre charade of putting women on trial for "raping" willing and eager 17-year-old boys. Prosecuting female sex offenders is the most comical and perverse legal charade in history, yet false-flag MRAs support it along with the feminists because they have been that well indoctrinated with feminism. Brainwashing really works. Last night I got a comment from a true believer which well illustrates the profoundly obtuse mindset of a male feminist:
if he says no, it is rape. if he is forced, it is rape. if he is under the legal age, it is rape and child molestation. plain and simple. same laws for all...and if women want to enjoy the privileges of modern society, they must be held accountable under the same laws and to the same degree.
Such blind devotion to feminist sex law is the hallmark of a mangina. They neither comprehend that men and women are different, nor do they see anything wrong with these hateful sex laws when applied to men either. Instead they unflinchingly support equal injustice for all. We real MRAs need to denounce these fools. Don't be led on by these impostors who claim to be on men's side while promoting the very worst aspects of feminism. Rest assured that real MRAs are not like that and we do exist. The real MRM will trudge on despite our depressingly small size at the moment.

Eivind Berge, Eivind Berge's Blog 9 Comments [1/4/2017 6:48:38 AM]
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Submitted By: acooper

Quote# 123407

Enoch says that the “Sons of Fire” came down and taught advanced meta-physics and super-science.

Mathues Imhotep, bibliotecapleyades.net 14 Comments [1/4/2017 6:48:27 AM]
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Submitted By: PETF

Quote# 123431

2 LGBTQ'ers Commit Suicide To Escape Justice For Being Serial Pedophiles

Mainstream news media won't dare report on stories like this one that show how dark and demented the LGBT community really is.

THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS AND SOCIAL PROGRESSIVES purposely hide this from the public; because they know the average citizen would never rally behind LGBTQ'ers if they knew the depraved sickness that dwelt in their hearts. Truth be told, the typical LGBT person was molested; they were brought into the gay lifestyle through trauma.

The homosexual who was turned out by some pervert child molester yesterday, votes on legislation today that will decriminalize pedophilia and pederasty tomorrow. That is the stated goal and mission of the gay rights movement in America as stated in their manifesto.

The remarkable thing about this story as you read it is not just that this gay couple committed suicide as investigators closed in on them; it's WHY they did it.

It becomes obvious that this gay couple committed suicide NOT because they were ashamed for molesting their young male students; they likely killed themselves because they blamed society for not allowing them to live openly as pedophiles and pederasts!

So it's our fault they can't openly molest and rape little boys!?! This is precisely the kind of mindset that's pervasive in the LGBTQ community today: soon to become part of mainstream American culture tomorrow; unless we can stop the LGBT advances against our culture by taking a powerful stand with solid biblical principles.

Even churches are not exempt from this type of infiltration. Every week there's a new story about some pervert in ministry having sex with underage kids. This is part of the overall tactic to pervade society with pederasty and pedophilia until it's no longer looked as a crime, but seen instead as a simple sexual preference under the guise of 'love.'

And while we are speaking about love, Christians have to understand that there is NO amount of "love" and acceptance you can give a person of the LGBTQ community that will make them not hate you!

LGBTQ instinctively hate Christians because they blame Christians for their inability to live how they want to live in society: even if that means participating in their detestable behaviors like pedophilia and pederasty.

Read this complete news story at Breitbart.com "Gay schoolteacher, Partner Accused of Sexually Abusing 8 Boys Kill Themselves"|http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/29/gay-schoolteacher-partner-accused-of-sexually-abusing-8-boys-kill-themselves/

Nya Nya Jo, Eden Decoded 13 Comments [1/4/2017 6:44:49 AM]
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Quote# 123428

If you want to treat animals "humanely" as of today's standards, don't eat them, don't enslave them, don't exploit them. You don't get to use appeasing words just because you want a clear conscience. If you want to eat meat/dairy, do it. No one's stopping you. But don't hide behind some bullshit word like "humanely". At least have the balls to stand by your barbarism.
#mytwocents

Thorben Seierø Jensen, Facebook 16 Comments [1/4/2017 6:44:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 123417

2017 will be the year pedophiles finally get their liberation.

Not all sex offenders who target children are pedophiles, and not all pedophiles are sex offenders.

Pedophiles deserve atleast a little sympathy since they are the most targeted group in societ

Follow me on twitter, i need a couple reasonable human beings to help motivate a powerful movement.

Is your pathetic emotions hurt because you cant get a small boy to ram his tight ass?It's time for society to normalize pedophila

t's not always going to be about you. Pedophiles are the only humans without their rights.



Frank B. Cousins , Twitter  39 Comments [1/3/2017 9:36:15 AM]
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Quote# 123415

Evolutionists have a blind-faith religion with a fictional story they impose on whatever fossil evidence they find.

Ken Ham, Twitter 30 Comments [1/3/2017 9:35:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 123413

Rape is, after all is said and done, just sex with a disagreement over who will decide.

Bob, The World According To Bob 26 Comments [1/3/2017 9:35:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 123409

4 Reasons Human Beings May Not Be Mammals

Mammals share specific characteristics which separate them from other animals.

There are different types of groups of mammals such as bats, carnivores, cetaceans, elephants, marsupials, primates, rodents, treeshrews and many others.

They are found all over the world in all different climates. They nurse their babies with mother's milk, maintain a constant internal temperature, protect their young, have hair, more developed brains and many other shared physical features.

All mammals strive to instinctively:
maintain a natural equilibrium within their ecosystem
consume nutrients to maintain a homeostatic balance
reproduce up to the limitations that natural resources can provide
Modern humans don't follow any of the above instincts, if they have them at all.

Humans:
destroy the natural equilibrium within the environment they inhabit
expend energy and resources to destroy cells within the body
reproduce to the point of exceeding the capacity of natural resources of the host environment
will latch onto other environments to repeat the same process and will teach other humans to do the same thing
Behaviorally, there is no other mammal that does what humans do.

Our capacity to destroy our environment makes us practically pseudo-living organisms in this respect.

There is one other organism that does mimic our behavior. It's called a virus. Viruses have insinuated themselves into the genome of our ancestors for hundreds of millions of years. They typically have gotten there by infecting eggs or sperm, inserting their own DNA into ours.

There are 100,000 known fragments of viruses in the human genome, making up over 8% of our DNA.

Unlike mammals, what's interesting about viruses is that they're not alive. They don't grow, produce/utilize their own energy, cannot independently reproduce, or move on their own. Are human beings headed in the same direction?

As soon as humanity stops living like a virus, consciousness will evolve to an infinite source of power, abundance and prosperity for our species.

The only thing we need to do is recognize it.


Josh Richardson, bibliotecapleyades.net 36 Comments [1/3/2017 9:35:17 AM]
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Quote# 123408

WHERE did we come from?
Are we the product of a Divine Creation?
Did we evolve through natural selection?
Or is there another possible answer?


Introduction

In November 1859, Charles Darwin published a most dangerous idea - that all living things had evolved through a process of natural selection. Although there was almost no mention of mankind in Darwin’s treatise, the implications were unavoidable and led to a more radical change in human self-perception than anything before it in recorded history. In one blow, Darwin had relegated us from divinely-created beings to apes - the culmination of evolution by the impersonal mechanism of natural selection.

But are the scientists right in applying the theory of evolution to the strange two-legged hominid known as ‘man’? Charles Darwin himself was strangely quiet on this point but his co-discoverer Alfred Wallace was less reluctant to express his views. Wallace himself was adamant that ‘some intelligent power has guided or determined the development of man.’

One hundred years of science have failed to prove Alfred Wallace wrong. Anthropologists have failed miserably to produce fossil evidence of man’s ‘missing link’ with the apes and there has been a growing recognition of the complexity of organs such as the human brain.

Such are the problems with the application of Darwinism to mankind that Stephen Jay Gould - America’s evolutionist laureate - has described human evolution as an ‘awesome improbability’.




In Search of the Missing Link

Speciation - the separation of one species into two different species - is defined as the point where two groups within the same species are no longer able to inter-breed. The British scientist Richard Dawkins has described the separation quite poetically as ‘the long goodbye’.

The search for the missing link between man and the apes is the search for the earliest hominid - the upright, bipedal ape who waved ‘a long goodbye’ to his four-legged friends.

I will now attempt to briefly summarize what is known about human evolution.

According to the experts, the rivers of human genes and chimpanzee genes split from a common ancestral source some time between 5 and 7 million years ago, whilst the river of gorilla genes is generally thought to have branched off slightly earlier. In order for this speciation to occur, three populations of common ape ancestors (the future gorillas, chimpanzees and hominids) had to become geographically separated and thereafter subject to genetic drift, influenced by their different environments.

The search for the missing link has turned up a number of fossil contenders, dating from around 4 million years ago, but the picture remains very incomplete and the sample size is too small to draw any statistically valid conclusions. There are, however, three contenders for the prize of the first fully bipedal hominid, all discovered in the East African Rift valley which slashes through Ethiopia, Kenya and Tanzania.

The first contender, discovered in the Afar province of Ethiopia in 1974, is named Lucy, although her more scientific name is Australopithecus Afarensis. Lucy is estimated to have lived between 3.6-3.2 million years ago. Unfortunately her skeleton was only 40 per cent complete and this has resulted in controversy regarding whether she was a true biped and whether in fact ‘she’ might even have been a ‘he’.

The second contender is Australopithecus Ramidus, a 4.4 million year old pygmy chimpanzee-like creature, discovered at Aramis in Ethiopia by Professor Timothy White in 1994. Despite a 70 per cent complete skeleton, it has again not been possible to prove categorically whether it had two or four legs.

The third contender, dated between 4.1-3.9 million years old, is the Australopithecus Anamensis, discovered at Lake Turkana in Kenya by Dr Meave Leakey in August 1995. A shinbone from Anamensis has been used to back up the claim that it walked on two feet.

The evidence of our oldest ancestors is confusing because they do not seem to be closely related to each other. Furthermore, the inexplicable lack of fossil evidence for the preceding 10 million years has made it impossible to confirm the exact separation date of these early hominids from the four-legged apes. It is also important to emphasize that many of these finds have skulls more like chimpanzees than men.

They may be the first apes that walked but, as of 4 million years ago, we are still a long way from anything that looked even remotely human.

Moving forward in time, we find evidence of several types of early man which are equally confusing. We have the 1.8 million year old appropriately named Robustus, the 2.5 million year old and more lightly built Africanus, and the 1.5 to 2 million year old Advanced Australopithecus. The latter, as the name suggests, is more man-like than the others and is sometimes referred to as ‘near-man’ or Homo habilis (‘handy man’). It is generally agreed that Homo habilis was the first truly man-like being which could walk efficiently and use very rough stone tools. The fossil evidence does not reveal whether rudimentary speech had developed at this stage.

Around 1.5 million years ago Homo erectus appeared on the scene. This hominid had a considerably larger brain-box (cranium) than its predecessors and started to design and use more sophisticated stone tools.

A wide spread of fossils indicates that Homo erectus groups left Africa and spread across China, Australasia and Europe between 1,000,000-700,000 years ago but, for unknown reasons, disappeared altogether around 300,000-200,000 years ago. There is little doubt, by a process of elimination, that this is the line from which Homo sapiens descended.

The missing link, however, remains a mystery. In 1995, The Sunday Times summarized the evolutionary evidence as follows:
The scientists themselves are confused. A series of recent discoveries has forced them to tear up the simplistic charts on which they blithely used to draw linkages... the classic family tree delineating man’s descent from the apes, familiar to us at school, has given way to the concept of genetic islands. The bridgework between them is anyone’s guess.
As to the various contenders speculated as mankind’s ancestor, The Sunday Times stated:
Their relationships to one another remain clouded in mystery and nobody has conclusively identified any of them as the early hominid that gave rise to Homo sapiens.
In summary, the evidence discovered to date is so sparse that a few more sensational finds will still leave the scientists clutching at straws.

Consequently mankind’s evolutionary history is likely to remain shrouded in mystery for the foreseeable future.




The Miracle of Man

Today, four out of ten Americans find it difficult to believe that humans are related to the apes. Why is this so? Compare yourself to a chimpanzee. Man is intelligent, naked and highly sexual - a species apart from his alleged primate relatives.

This may be an intuitive observation but it is actually supported by scientific study. In 1911, the anthropologist Sir Arthur Keith listed the anatomical characteristics peculiar to each of the primate species, calling them ‘generic characters’ which set each apart from the others. His results were as follows: gorilla 75; chimpanzee 109; orangutan 113; gibbon 116; man 312. Keith thus showed scientifically that mankind was nearly three times more distinctive than any other ape.

Another scientist to take this approach was the British zoologist Desmond Morris. In his book, The Naked Ape, Desmond Morris highlighted the amazing mystery of mankind’s ‘missing hair’:
Functionally, we are stark naked and our skin is fully exposed to the outside world. This state of affairs still has to be explained, regardless of how many tiny hairs we can count under a magnifying lens.
Desmond Morris contrasted Homo sapiens with 4,237 species of mammals, the vast majority of which were hairy or partly haired. The only non-hairy species were those which lived underground (and thus kept warm without hair), species which were aquatic (and benefited from streamlining), and armoured species such as the armadillo (where hair would clearly be superfluous). Morris commented:
The naked ape [man] stands alone, marked off by his nudity from all the thousands of hairy, shaggy or furry land-dwelling mammalian species... if the hair has to go, then clearly there must be a powerful reason for abolishing it.
Darwinism has yet to produce a satisfactory answer as to how and why man lost his hair. Many imaginative theories have been suggested, but so far no-one has come up with a really acceptable explanation. The one conclusion that can perhaps be drawn, based on the principle of gradiented change, is that man spent a long time evolving, either in a very hot environment or in water.

Another unique feature of mankind may provide us with a clue to the loss of body hair. That feature is sexuality. The subject was covered in juicy detail by Desmond Morris, who highlighted unique human features such as extended foreplay, extended copulation and the orgasm. One particular anomaly is that the human female is always ‘in heat’, yet she can only conceive for a few days each month.

As another scientist, Jared Diamond, has pointed out, this is an evolutionary enigma that cannot be explained by natural selection:
The most hotly debated problem in the evolution of human reproduction is to explain why we nevertheless ended up with concealed ovulation, and what good all our mistimed copulations do us.
Many scientists have commented also on the anomaly of the male penis, which is by far the largest erect penis of any living primate.

The geneticist Steve Jones has noted it as a mystery which is ‘unanswered by science’, a point which is echoed by Jared Diamond:
... we descend to a glaring failure: the inability of twentieth-century science to formulate an adequate Theory of Penis Length... astonishing as it seems, important functions of the human penis remain obscure.
Desmond Morris described man as ‘the sexiest primate alive’, but why did evolution grant us such a bountiful gift? The whole human body seems to be perfectly designed for sexual excitement and pair bonding.

Morris saw elements of this plan in the enlarged breasts of the female, the sensitive ear lobes and lips, and a vaginal angle that encouraged intimate face to face copulation. He also highlighted our abundance of scent-producing glands, our unique facial mobility and our unique ability to produce copious tears - all features which strengthened the exclusive emotional pair-bonding between male and female.

This grand design could not be imagined unless humans also lost their shaggy coat of hair and so it might seem that the mystery of the missing hair is solved. Unfortunately, it is not that simple, for evolution does not set about achieving grand designs. The Darwinists are strangely silent on what incremental steps were involved, but however it happened it should have taken a long, long time.

There are three other interesting anomalies of ‘the naked ape’ which are also worthy of note.
The first is the appalling ineptitude of the human skin to repair itself. In the context of a move to the open savanna, where bipedal man became a vulnerable target, and in the context of a gradual loss of protective hair, it seems inconceivable that the human skin should have become so fragile relative to our primate cousins.

The second anomaly is the unique lack of penis bone in the male. This is in complete contrast to other mammals, which use the penis bone to copulate at short notice. The deselection of this vital bone would have jeopardized the existence of the human species unless it took place against the background of a long and peaceful environment.

The third anomaly is our eating habits. Whereas most animals will swallow their food instantaneously, we take the luxury of six whole seconds to transport our food from mouth to stomach. This again suggests a long period of peaceful evolution.
The question which arises is where this long and peaceful evolution is supposed to have taken place, because it certainly does not fit the scenario which is presented for Homo sapiens.

Nor have Darwinists explained adequately how the major changes in human anatomy were achieved in a time frame of only 6 million years...




The Mystery of the Human Brain

The greatest mystery of Homo sapiens is its incredible brain.

During the last fifteen years, scientists have used new imaging technologies (such as positron-emission tomography) to discover more about the human brain than ever before. The full extent of the complexity of its billions of cells has thus become more and more apparent. In addition to the brain’s physical complexity, its performance knows no bounds - mathematics and art, abstract thought and conceptualization and, above all, moral conscience and self-awareness.

Whilst many of the human brain’s secrets remain shrouded in mystery, enough has been revealed for National Geographic to have boldly described it as ’the most complex object in the known universe’.

Evolutionists see the brain as nothing more than a set of algorithms, but they are forced to admit that it is so complex and unique that there is no chance of reverse engineering the evolutionary process that created it.

The eminent scientist Roger Penrose, for example, commented:
I am a strong believer in the power of natural selection. But I do not see how natural selection, in itself, can evolve algorithms which could have the kind of conscious judgments of the validity of other algorithms that we seem to have.
What does the fossil record tell us about our evolving brain capabilities? The data varies considerably and must be treated with care (since the sample sizes are limited), but the following is a rough guide.

The early hominid Afarensis had around 500cc and Habilis/Australopithecus had around 700cc. Whilst it is by no means certain that one evolved from the other, it is possible to see in these figures the evolutionary effects over two million years of the hominid’s new environment.

As we move forward in time to 1.5 million years ago, we find a sudden leap in the cranial capacity of Homo erectus to around 900-1000cc. If we assume, as most anthropologists do, that this was accompanied by an increase in intelligence, it represents a most unlikely macromutation. Alternatively, we might explain this anomaly by viewing erectus as a separate species whose ancestors have not yet been found due to the poor fossil records.

Finally, after surviving 1.2 to 1.3 million years without any apparent change, and having successfully spread out of Africa to China, Australasia and Europe, something extraordinary happened to the Homo erectus hominid. Perhaps due to climatic changes, his population began to dwindle until he eventually died out. And yet, while most Homo erectus were dying, one managed to suddenly transform itself into Homo sapiens , with a vast increase in cranial capacity from 950cc to 1450cc.

Human evolution thus appears like an hourglass, with a narrowing population of Homo erectus leading to possibly one single mutant, whose improved genes emerged into a new era of unprecedented progress. The transformation from failure to success is startling. It is widely accepted that we are the descendants of Homo erectus (who else was there to descend from?) but the sudden changeover defies all known laws of evolution. Hence Stephen Jay Gould’s comment about the ’awesome improbability of human evolution’.

Why has Homo sapiens developed intelligence and self-awareness whilst his ape cousins have spent the last 6 million years in evolutionary stagnation? Why has no other creature in the animal kingdom developed an advanced level of intelligence?

Alan F. Alford, bibliotecapleyades.net 12 Comments [1/3/2017 9:34:56 AM]
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Teachers at Christian fundamentalist schools in Britain allegedly performed exorcisms on pupils, beat children in religious rituals and “groomed” girls for marriage, according to former students who say they have decided to speak out now after years of suffering in silence.

The former pupils told The Independent such treatment of children was a “terrifying” part of life at schools in the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s in an environment where they felt too afraid to complain for fear of retribution from school staff, evangelical parents and their close-knit Baptist faith community.

One former pupil alleged that in the 1990s pupils at school assemblies would start convulsing amid “blood curdling screams” as prayers were said for the holy spirit to rid children of demons. The alleged abuse is said to have taken place many years ago at a number of schools in the UK that follow the Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) curriculum, a form of learning that originated in the southern Baptist states of the US.

The former pupils contacted The Independent after reading our June report revealing that some of these schools still teach children that girls must submit to men, homosexuality is unnatural and that creationism is a fact. They said the article jolted their memories of their own experiences.

More than 1,000 4-18 year olds are currently taught in 30 ACE schools in the UK, all of them registered as private institutions. Although the schools are bound by the same safeguarding and child protection regulations as the state sector, former pupils want assurances that monitoring of these schools is more effective than when they attended.

One told The Independent that during his time at an ACE school in the 1990s: “We were told that we were the children of God and the world was out to get us. So we were isolated and couldn’t speak out. There was nobody checking on us. I just took it.”

Pupils who have traditionally attended the schools tend to come from Christian families who follow a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible. Former pupils said many of the children will have limited interaction with mainstream society.

One former pupil, who attended a school in the 1990s and who has asked not to be named, said: “Exorcisms used to happen at school assemblies sometimes. There would be 20 or so children and perhaps five adults. We were told that the holy spirit would come through children. I started convulsing and I couldn’t stop. Even when I went to bed I kept convulsing. I was terrified, I really thought it was the holy spirit.

“We would all begin convulsing. I remember them screaming blood curdling screams and then we’d all pray rigorously to get the demons out. Teachers would physically push us. They’d lay their hands on us when we prayed and they’d push us down. If you didn’t fall it was said that you weren’t really ‘feeling the Lord’. It was a very dark thing. It really was insanity. It got completely out of control.”

Two other former pupils from the 1990s and 2000s alleged they witnessed exorcisms performed on some occasions at other schools, where children were encouraged to “speak in tongues”.

Allegations from ex-pupils include other potential concerns. At some schools, girls were groomed for marriage from a young age, two former students said. They claimed the grooming was done by the church communities that run the schools and by teachers. Methods were said to include controlling girls’ sexuality and isolating them from boys their own age so they might later be married to much older male members of the church groups.

In some schools they were allegedly encouraged to marry soon after they turned 16, as church leaders told them it was “God’s will”.

One woman, who attended a school between the late 1990s and early 2000s, said: “There was one girl I knew who married someone more than 20 years older. The man she married had known her since she was seven years old and he was 30. She’d sit on his knee when she was a child. He’d played with her when she was a child. Now they’re married. It’s just really creepy.

“As a young girl, you were told you were not allowed to talk to boys your own age, you had to stand six inches apart from boys at all times at schools, teachers told you they’d hit you with a wooden paddle if you kiss a boy. So you didn’t get to meet anyone else and then you’re shown sexual interest for the first time and it’s some creepy old man. It was so sexualised, they were sexualising children.”

Another former pupil who attended an ACE school in the 1990s said a girl at her school had married a man at 16, when he was in his 40s, and who she had met when he began teaching at her school.

She said: “You were told from a young age that your role is to support a man and God will lead you to him. The role of women in these religious groups is quite clear. You’re told God has chosen a husband for you and God will lead this man to you. But in reality, pastors and church leaders guide men to you. It’s grooming.”

She added: “When I was 18, I experienced it. From the age of 14, the church had been pushing me towards a man in the church group who was eight years older. I was actively encouraged to work with him. They were very pushy about marriage, it was very intimidating. It’s very closed and isolating.

“As a girl, you’re left feeling redundant if you don’t get married. You’re told it’s God’s will and you’re just wasting time until you get married – it’s your ultimate goal.”

She said that none of the girls married before the legal age of consent, adding: “They are very keen to ensure nothing illegal happened, but the conditioning was around a long time before that.”

Although all the claims made by former pupils for this article relate to historic incidents, textbooks still used by the schools – and seen by The Independent – raise current concerns.

The books suggest pupils are still taught that “the wife is to obey, respect and submit to the leadership of her husband, serving as a helper to him” and “God desires for [women] to submit to husband[s].”

Other pupils told The Independent there were also historic concerns about corporal punishment, which they say took on a religious characteristic at the ACE schools.

They claimed children were beaten with a wooden paddle and then forced into a ritualised religious quasi-ceremony in which prayers were said for their salvation in the 1980s and 1990s. They said that the church groups believed at the time that corporal punishment was “God’s will” as it stopped children from sinning.

Corporal punishment was outlawed in UK private schools in 1998 and there is no suggestion the ACE schools breached that law.

David Waldock who attended an ACE school between the ages of 11 and 16 prior to 1998 said: “I was beaten with a cane by teachers while a pupil at an ACE school. The school was in the basement of the church. The cane was kept in the vestry. You would be led up to the vestry to a fold down desk, inside was a cardboard case and in that was the cane.

“The teachers explained to you your ‘offence’. You were told to take your trousers down. Then you were bent over a chair with your trousers down and wearing just your underwear. Then you were caned. And then you prayed for forgiveness.

“It was very ritualised. It was a ritual of confession, administration and prayer for forgiveness.”

One former pupil who attended an ACE school in the 1990s said a four-year-old boy at her school had special needs which caused him to urinate and defecate uncontrollably in class. She claims the child would be routinely taken to be beaten by the headmaster with a wooden paddle to punish this “bad behaviour”.

She says knowing corporal punishment was happening to other children was extremely distressing: “I remember feeling sick. I was so frightened I dug my nails into my hands.”

A 1993 copy of the ACE teachers’ training manual, seen by The Independent, appears to instruct teachers in how to administer corporal punishment when children have “sinned” in ritualised religious ceremonies. It says: “Demerits are for procedural violations; the paddle is for moral violations.”

The manual then lists a step by step process for hitting children.

“Using Bible verses, explain to the child the principles he has violated. Make sure he clearly understands what he has done wrong … position the child so he is leaning forward with his hands on a desk or chair and with his feet spread. Keep the paddle, switch, or belt low to avoid hitting the spine.

“Pray with the child following corporal correction. Review the offense and show him Hebrews 13.17. Request that he ask the Lord to forgive him for _____ (name the violation) and help him obey God’s Word and those people God has placed in his life to train him.”

An updated edition of the teacher training manual compiled after 1998 stops advocating corporal punishment by teachers at ACE schools. Christian Education Europe, an organisational body that runs and promotes ACE schools, say stocks of teaching manuals are regularly checked to ensure they are up to date.

A former pupil who attended an ACE school in the 1990s said: “The kind of people who send their children to schools like these believe in it absolutely. The pastor had absolute power and they could do anything.”

Accelerated Christian Education, The Independent 16 Comments [1/2/2017 4:51:19 PM]
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No, Your Transgendered 8-Year-Old Daughter Can’t Join The Cub Scouts

Your little girl does not know if she is a boy trapped in a girl’s body, she just knows what she likes, so stop confusing these children.

Social media is in an uproar again today. The story of an 8-year-old transgendered boy, Joe Maldonado, being asked to leave his New Jersey Cub Scouts troop has everyone talking. When I first heard the story, I thought it was a no brainer. Of course, I’m the same person who found and pointed out, serious flaws in the proposed LGBT elementary school in Georgia.

Of course, everyone wants to choose a side when it comes to LGBT issues. We all have an opinion on where the LGBT community fits in with the rest of society. I myself, being a bisexual woman, recognize that we have a come a long way as far as acceptance and human rights. However, I think in some ways, things have gone too far.

While I’m 100 % for people living an authentic life, not being forced to be someone or something they are not; I find a serious problem in children being allowed to make decisions that not only affect them but how they are treated and viewed. Children go through phases. They play with toys we don’t think they would like, they sing songs we’ve never heard. While it is important that we encourage their individuality and interests, we must remember that they are children. As the adult, the parent, the person in the relationship with more knowledge and experience, it is incumbent upon us to make sure that we help guide them in the right direction.

By no means do I think heterosexual is the right direction. By no means do I think homosexuality is the right direction.n I think being yourself is what makes you happy. Moving towards your own happiness daily is the right direction. Herein lies the problem, what 8-year-old understands the term gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered the way adults do? These are terms that refer to a person’s sexuality and at the age of 8, that is the last thing any child should be worried about.

Growing up, children explore personalities, hobbies, interests and even their attractions to others. They do not label it. The adults around them do. Adults have become so used to societies labels that they don’t even realize how harmful they are to slap on a young child. We have a set idea of boy or girl toys, boy or girl clothes, boy and girl shows, and tend to start to label our children as we do the material items around us.

If your 6-year-old daughter loves playing with toy cars, it’s possible she will grow up to be a beauty queen and a mechanic. Your daughter playing with toy cars or liking sports doesn’t mean she is a tomboy or gay. It could mean that she’s a girl who likes ponies as much as cars, boys as much as balls. In two years she may stop liking everything she liked before. That’s how kids are.

So to me, the idea of taking a child as young as 8 and allowing them to make a life decision they are not old enough to even try to understand the ramifications of is just bad parenting. No, your 8-year-old transgendered daughter should NOT be allowed to join the Cub Scouts. For multiple reasons.

Just because you and your family have decided it’s ok little Jackie (not his real name) becomes John it does not give you the right to impose that lifestyle on other people’s children. Yes, it is possible that children may encounter transgendered people as they explore their own communities. It is very different to pass a transgendered person on the street, or see them in a restaurant, and personally being subjected to trying to understand a transgendered lifestyle at such a young age. You are now putting the other parents in a position of trying to explain to very young children they don’t understand and shouldn’t have to try to wrap their young minds around. What adults do is what adults do. Making the decision to change your sex or name, is the act of an adult.

Furthermore, you’re now forcing the Cub Scouts to change the way they operate. I can see separate bathrooms being requested by some of the parents. I’m sure at this age little Jackie/John still has his/her original sex organs, which means your transgendered “daughter” should have a female around to make sure no one does harm to her. After all, she is a girl in boy’s clothing.

The whole idea of someone needing to tell parents that if your little girl likes toys, clothes and shows you associate with boys, it’s okay. You can encourage her love of all things without trying to label her. Your little girl does not know if she is a boy trapped in a girl’s body, she just knows what she likes. Stop confusing these children.

Melony Hill, The Urban Twist 24 Comments [1/2/2017 4:50:47 PM]
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I like Dawkins for his antitheism and opposition to theocracy, but he is all wrong on personal disarmament. He is a high priest of climate change, a religion, but can't discern the irony.

George Nashke, Facebook 15 Comments [1/2/2017 2:18:39 PM]
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Heterosexuals can be married on the assumption that they will use sex safely and properly, for the purpose it is meant for.

There is no proper way for a same sex couple to have sex, and there is more temptation to use unsafe ways; therefore there is no mandate to legitimize it.

Spud, Religion and Ethics 31 Comments [1/2/2017 7:26:26 AM]
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