Quote# 135234

sandraleesmith46: WRONG: it if was supported by FACTS it wouldn't still be a THEORY!

TheKingOfRhye: That is wrong. The definition of a scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world based on facts. That's quite different from how the word theory is commonly used in a non-scientific context.

Look at this way: There are theories of gravity. Do you doubt the existence of gravity?

sandraleesmith46: NOT well versed in real science, are you? THEORY is a notion you start with and look for the facts to support what ACTUALLY IS, about any issue; the THEORY of evolution REMAINS a theory because it is UNPROVEN! That means there are NOT sufficient facts to support it as reality!
Gravity is a fact; the only theoretic parts about it are how it works and what, if any, are its exceptions to the rules.

sandraleesmith46, The Federalist 20 Comments [12/16/2017 4:24:31 PM]
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Submitted By: KingOfRhye

Quote# 135233

Ballet dancing is extremely promiscuous, VERY SINFUL, because the women dance in their underwear, giving explicit views of their crotches, doing the splits with their underwear visible for the world to see. I'm not to to get graphic here, but you get the picture. The audience is “turned on” to say the least, unless they're dead. I don't have a dirty mind, I have a man's mind, and I cannot watch ballet without lusting.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 21 Comments [12/16/2017 4:23:56 PM]
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In my experience (psychology studies, published research, own experiences and layman observation) one important aspect is that a 15-year old person has not at all the same means to use a against his/hers 15-year old victim as a 25 year old. Just in terms of average physical strength, possibility to remove the victim from his/hers surroundings by car as well as authority.


Alright, but we're talking about coercion at this point. I'm not arguing that ANYbody should be able to intimidate anybody this way. You're making the mistake of assuming an adult having sex with a minor necessarily involves this. Even if it might be more common in these situations, you're still guilty of ageism.

People don't like to be tricked. If someone gives 10$ to someone else, who asks for it for a bus ride or food, this someone will feel betrayed and/or angry if he/she finds out that the person he/she gave those 10$ used them for drugs instead. It doesn't change anything, they are 10$ poorer and the choice made by the other person doesn't change that. But still a lot of people care.


Agreed, but those people don't go to prison for a long time and their lives aren't ruined by being marked as a sex offender for life.

If your standard is simply that people are being deceived, then you're opening the doors to a ton of new regulations. It has to be something substantial.

In other words, she was playing a game half blind not being aware of all the rules, possibilities and her own rights. Also applies the other way around.


This is not exclusive to older people with younger people though. Should a 30-year old who does this to somebody his age go to prison for using a girl under false pretenses? Seriously, I think if you really understand what we're talking about, it's punishing people for breaking peoples' hearts. That's not a legal matter, that's just ordinary drama.

18 isn't a magic number and the age of consent isn't same in all countries. 25 wouldn't be a bad idea. Or a maturity test. However, I suppose 18 is seen as good enough approximation.


I say we go with a maturity test since age really isn't the issue is it? Most people here are bringing up maturity, experience and reason... why not simply just test for those things? That'd make a lot more sense for other things as well (e.g., driver's license, ability to drink).


A 25 year old and a 15 year old are not on equal footing when it comes to experience, authority, and power

True, but could you apply that to the questions that I asked?

Even when we talk about authority and power, if a 25 year old had sex with a 15-year old without utilizing that, why would it be an issue?

A 25 year old automatically has more power and authority. You can't pretend it doesn't exist.



I'm not pretending it doesn't exist, I'm asking why we assume it's at play.

Or let's look at it another way...

If I'm a super-genius at the age of 25 (let's say I have an IQ of 200) and I use that genius to manipulate a girl of the same age who is below average intelligence (we won't go so far as to say mentally challenged to avoid that conversation), do I deserve to go to prison and be marked as a sexual offender for the rest of my life?




I think I agree with you, but it's a very fuzzy, grey area that I think has to be handled with caution, because it can go in a very ugly direction.

OpinionGenerator • 4y
I agree, but I think the "ugly direction" of which you speak is still outside what we're talking about. Even the OP basically admitted to physical intimidation to make her point, but that's something that is ALWAYS punishable no matter what age you are... it's kind of a cheap way to make her point.

I think the line should definitely be AFTER puberty starts to kick in and past the age of when we teach sex ed, but after that, I don't think it makes sense to punish people when their partner is seeking sex. When I was 13 (actually younger than that TBH), I was ready to go and it'd be a shame to think the women I was fantasizing over would be seen as manipulative for giving me what I wanted at the time.

Again, I think this has to do with society's views of sex. When a guy gets laid, it's awesome. When a girl gets laid, it's a strike and after she's had X amount of those, she's a slut. Why is it that men rarely go through this when they have sex at an early age? Because they're not shamed like women are.





OpinionGenerator, Reddit 5 Comments [12/16/2017 4:23:13 PM]
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Quote# 135231

While many would argue saying that there isn't any kind of cuckoldry happening when you watch porn, I would like to disagree with it because you are being virtually cucked when you watch porn. Just think about it: you are watching another man have sexual intercourse with a femoid while you enthusiastically jack off to it. The only difference it has with the actual cuckoldry act is that, you are sitting behind a screen and jacking off to the act rather than being present in the scene and jacking off to it. In both cases, the other man gets the chance to fuck a cum dumpster while you're not getting any.

Also, remember that these degenerates are not only cucking you, but they are also profiting from your Inceldom. How? By being paid to do different kinds of acts in front of the camera, while you, the person who watches it, isn't getting paid in any sort of manner. The websites you also watch these stuff profit heavily from ad revenue; which is the reason why the porn industry has grown exponentially in the last few years. These degenerates are using our misery to gain profit while we just stroke our cawk in our room lonely and miserably. Yes, it does provide us with some sort of temporary pleasure but we just go back to being miserable again after a few minutes. Not really worth it, if you think about it.

Lastly, I would like to state that, pornography may bring some kind of temporary and meaningless pleasure for all of its viewers, which in turn they would benefit from, however, the negatives outweighs the positives when it comes to porn. One of the biggest negatives being that, porn is solely responsible for the degradation of our sexual morality and the cohesiveness of the family unit. The rampant degeneracy you see today didn't happen by accident by any means; pornography is one of the top contributing factors towards it.

Lookismisreal, Incel.life 12 Comments [12/16/2017 4:23:00 PM]
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Quote# 135230

How dumb are Flat Earthers?
Better question is how dumb is everybody else?
Answer:Daytime moon proves flat earth...Cause you cant show me our world is a globe without NASA But I can show you our world is flat much faster When the sun is high up in the sky you can clearly see the moon proving NASAs greatest lie...that is how dumb everyone else is....btw...if that sounds like a song its because it is...keep hating!!!Globalists?

cosmodave69, YouTube  14 Comments [12/16/2017 4:20:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 135229

Two Sticks Don't Prove a Curve - Flat Earth

Two Sticks is not an experiment so much as it is a sales presentation.

"The Two Sticks Demo assumes a Flat Plane in a Heliocentric model with a Sun much farther away than what is believed in the Geocentric model. If the Sun is over one stick and it doesn't cast a shadow, this makes perfect sense for a Sun MUCH closer to the surface of the Earth than we've been taught. Think about it. It is actually far superior evidence for a Flat Earth / Geocentric model."

This Two Sticks argument is Strawman Brainwashing.

Jesse Spots, YouTube  7 Comments [12/16/2017 4:20:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 135227



An issue often used in an attempt to beat biblical creationists over the head is the worldwide distribution of animals. Such a distribution, say critics, proves that there could never have been a global Flood or an Ark. If the Ark landed somewhere in the Middle East, then all the animals would have disembarked at that point, including animals that we do not find in the Middle East today, or in the fossil record in that area. How did kangaroos get to Australia, or kiwis to New Zealand? How did polar bears get to North America and penguins to Antarctica?

Skeptics often claim, “The Bible is not a science textbook.” This, of course, is true—because science textbooks change every year, whereas the Bible is the unchanging Word of God—the God who cannot lie. Nevertheless, the Bible can be relied upon when it touches on every scientific issue, including ecology. It is the Bible that gives us the big picture. Within this big picture, we can build scientific models that help us explain how past events may have come about. Such models should be held to lightly, but the Scripture to which they refer is inerrant. That is to say future research may cast doubt on an actual model, without casting doubt on Scripture.

With this in mind, the question needs to be asked, “Is there a Bible-based model that we can use to help explain how animals might have migrated from where the Ark landed to where they live today?” The answer is yes.

The Hard Facts

A biblical model of animal migration obviously must start with the Bible. From Genesis we can glean the following pertinent facts:

“And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive” (Genesis 6:19–20). The Bible is clear that representatives of all the kinds of air-breathing land animals and birds were present on the Ark. A technical term used by some creation scientists for these kinds is baramin—derived from the Hebrew words for created kind. Within these baramins is all the information necessary to produce all current species. For example, it is unlikely that the Ark contained two lions and two tigers. It is more likely that it contained two feline animals, from which lions, tigers, and other cat-like creatures have developed.
Another lesson from Genesis 6:20 is that the animals came to Noah. He did not have to go and catch them. Therefore, this preservation of the world’s fauna was divinely controlled. It was God’s intention that the fauna be preserved. The animals’ recolonization of the land masses was therefore determined by God, and not left to chance.
“Then the ark rested in the seventh month, the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat” (Genesis 8:4). The Bible is clear that the Ark landed in the region of Ararat, but much debate has ensued over whether this is the same region as the locality of the present-day mountain known as Ararat. This issue is of importance, as we shall see. The Bible uses the plural “mountains.” It is unlikely that the Ark rested on a point on the top of a mountain, in the manner often illustrated in children’s picture books. Rather, the landing would have been among the mountainous areas of eastern Turkey, where present-day Mount Ararat is located, and western Iran, where the range extends.
It was God’s will that the earth be recolonized. “Then God spoke to Noah, saying, ‘Go out of the ark, you and your wife, and your sons and your sons’ wives with you. Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth.’ So Noah went out, and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives with him. Every animal, every creeping thing, every bird, and whatever creeps on the earth, according to their families, went out of the ark” (Genesis 8:15–19). The abundance and multiplication of the animals was also God’s will.

The biblical principles that we can establish then are that, after the Flood, God desired the ecological reconstruction of the world, including its vulnerable animal kinds, and the animals must have spread out from a mountainous region known as Ararat.

The construction of any biblical model of recolonization must include these principles. The model suggested on the following pages is constructed in good faith, to explain the observed facts through the “eyeglasses” of the Bible. The Bible is inspired, but our scientific models are not. If we subsequently find the model to be untenable, this would not shake our commitment to the absolute authority of Scripture.

The model uses the multiplication of dogs as an example of how animals could have quickly repopulated the earth. Two dogs came off Noah’s Ark and began breeding more dogs. Within a relatively short time period, there would be an incredible number of dogs of all sorts of different shapes and sizes.

These dogs then began to spread out from the Ararat region to all parts of the globe.
The dog kind diversifying

As these dogs spread around the world, variations within the dog kind led to many of the varieties we find today. But it is important to note that they are still dogs. This multiplication of variations within a kind is the same with the many other kinds of animals.

One final comment must be made in this section. As I have used the word recolonization several times, I must emphasize that I am not referring to the so-called Recolonization Theory. This theory will be discussed later.

Modern Recolonizations

One accusation thrown at biblical creationists is that kangaroos could not have hopped to Australia, because there are no fossils of kangaroos on the way. But the expectation of such fossils is a presuppositional error. Such an expectation is predicated on the assumption that fossils form gradually and inevitably from animal populations. In fact, fossilization is by no means inevitable. It usually requires sudden, rapid burial. Otherwise the bones would decompose before permineralization. One ought likewise to ask why it is that, despite the fact that millions of bison used to roam the prairies of North America, hardly any bison fossils are found there. Similarly, lion fossils are not found in Israel even though we know that lions once lived there.

Comparisons can be made with more modern recolonizations. For example, the Encyclopædia Britannica has the following to say about Surtsey Island and Krakatoa and the multiplication of species.

Six months after the eruption of a volcano on the island of Surtsey off the coast of Iceland in 1963, the island had been colonized by a few bacteria, molds, insects, and birds. Within about a year of the eruption of a volcano on the island of Krakatoa in the tropical Pacific in 1883, a few grass species, insects, and vertebrates had taken hold. On both Surtsey and Krakatoa, only a few decades had elapsed before hundreds of species reached the islands. Not all species are able to take hold and become permanently established, but eventually the island communities stabilize into a dynamic equilibrium.1

There is little secret, therefore, how nonflying animals may have travelled to the outer parts of the world after the Flood. Many of them could have floated on vast floating logs, left-overs from the massive pre-Flood forests that were ripped up during the Flood and likely remained afloat for many decades on the world’s oceans, transported by world currents. Others could later have been taken by people. Savolainen et al., have suggested, for example, that all Australian dingoes are descended from a single female domesticated dog from Southeast Asia.2 A third explanation of possible later migration is that animals could have crossed land bridges. This is, after all, how it is supposed by evolutionists that many animals and people migrated from Asia to the Americas—over a land bridge at the Bering Straits. For such land bridges to have existed, we may need to assume that sea levels were lower in the post-Flood period—an assumption based on a biblical model of the Ice Age.

The rare conditions required to form an Ice Age may have been triggered by the Flood.

As Michael Oard, a retired meteorologist and Ice Age researcher, has suggested in chapter 16, an Ice Age may have followed closely after the Flood. In his detailed analysis, Oard proposed a mechanism of how the rare conditions required to form an Ice Age may have been triggered by the Flood, and shows how this explains the field evidence for an Ice Age.3

Severe climatic changes could have been the catalyst that encouraged certain species to migrate in certain directions. These severe changes could also have accounted for some of the many extinctions that occurred. Additionally, Oard’s studies provide a model for how land bridges could have developed.

Oard has pointed out that certain observed features from the Ice Age cause problems for the evolutionist, not the creationist. Thus, a creationist explanation of the Ice Age better explains the facts. An example of such an issue is that of disharmonious associations of fossils—fossils of creatures normally associated with different conditions (such as creatures with a preference for hot and cold climates) being found in close proximity.

One of the more puzzling problems for uniformitarian theories of the ice age is disharmonious associations of fossils, in which species from different climatic regimes are juxtaposed. For example, a hippopotamus fossil found together with a reindeer fossil.

Oard suggests that even with present topography, a number of significant land bridges would have existed to facilitate migrations if the sea level were only 180 ft (55 m) below current levels. However, there is even evidence that the land in some places where land bridges would be necessary could have been higher still. Thus, land bridges facilitated by the Ice Age constitute a serious model to explain how some migrations could have been possible.

Some still remain skeptical about the idea of land bridges all the way to Australia. Nevertheless, by a combination of methods that we see today, including land bridges, there are rational explanations as to how animals may have reached the far corners of the world. Of course, we were not there at the time to witness how this migration may have happened, but those adhering to a biblical worldview can be certain that animals obviously did get to far places, and that there are rational ways in which it could have happened.

We should therefore have no problem accepting the Bible as true. Creationist scientific models of animal migration are equally as valid as evolutionary models, if not more so. The reason such models are rejected is that they do not fit in with the orthodox, secular evolutionary worldview.

It is not a problem for us to rationalize why certain animals do not appear in certain parts of the world. Why, for example, does Australia have such an unusual fauna, including so many marsupials? Marsupials are, of course, known elsewhere in the world. For example, opossums are found in North and South America, and fossilized marsupials have been found elsewhere. But in many places, climatic changes and other factors could lead to their extinction.

The lack of great marsupials in other continents need be no more of a problem than the lack of dinosaurs. As with many species today, they just died out—a reminder of a sin-cursed world. One proposed theory is that marsupials—because they bore their young in pouches—were able to travel farther and faster than mammals that had to stop to care for their young. They were able to establish themselves in far-flung Australia before competitors reached the continent.

Similar statements could be made about the many unusual bird species in New Zealand, on islands from which mammals were absent until the arrival of European settlers.
Recolonization Theory

The most logical interpretation of the biblical record of the Flood and its aftermath would seem to suggest that the animals disembarked and then recolonized the planet. Comparisons with modern migrations and incidents such as Surtsey have suggested that this recolonization need not have taken long. A plain reading of Scripture suggests that the Ark landed in the mountains of Ararat, most likely in the region of modern Turkey and Central Asia. It is also our contention that the significant quantity of death represented by the fossil record is best understood by reference to the Genesis Flood (i.e., the majority of fossils formed as a result of the Flood).

More recently, a theory has developed among certain creationists in the UK and Europe which suggests that the fossil record is actually a record not of catastrophe but of processes occurring during recolonization. This theory is called the Recolonization Theory.5

Proponents of this theory suggest that the Flood completely obliterated the earth’s previous crust so that none of the present fossils were caused by it. To accommodate fossilization processes, Recolonization Theory suggests that the age of the earth be stretched by a few thousand years. Some advocates of this view suggest an age of about 8,000 years for the earth, while others suggest figures as high as 20,000 years.

A detailed criticism of Recolonization Theory has previously been published by McIntosh, Edmondson, and Taylor6, and another by Holt7.

The principal error of this view is that it starts from supposed scientific anomalies, such as the fossil record, rather than from Scripture. This has led to the proposals among some Recolonizers, but not all, that there must be gaps in the genealogies recorded in Genesis 5 and 11, even though there is no need for such gaps. Indeed the suggestion of gaps in these genealogies causes further doctrinal problems.8

Even the views of those Recolonizers who do not expand the genealogies contain possible seeds of compromise. Because the Recolonizers accept the geologic column, and because the Middle East has a great deal of what is called Cretaceous rock, it follows that the Middle East would need to be submerged after the Flood, at the very time of the Tower of Babel events in Genesis 11. This has led some of the Recolonizers to speculate that the Ark actually landed in Africa, and therefore, that continent was the host to the events of Genesis 11 and 12. This would seem to be a very weak position exegetically and historically. Such exegetical weaknesses led Professor Andy McIntosh and his colleagues to comment, “Their science is driving their interpretation of Scripture, and not the other way round.”

Conclusions

We must not be downhearted by critics and their frequent accusations against the Bible. We must not be surprised that so many people will believe all sorts of strange things, whatever the logic.

Starting from our presupposition that the Bible’s account is true, we have seen that scientific models can be developed to explain the post-Flood migration of animals. These models correspond to observed data and are consistent with the Bible’s account. It is notable that opponents of biblical creationism use similar models in their evolutionary explanations of animal migrations. While a model may eventually be superseded, it is important to note that such biblically consistent models exist. In any event, we have confidence in the scriptural account, finding it to be accurate and authoritative.10 The fact of animal migration around the world is illustrative of the goodness and graciousness of God, who provided above and beyond our needs.

Paul F. Taylor, Answers in Genesis 23 Comments [12/16/2017 2:47:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 135226

THE CONDITION OF THE CHURCH – FEW ARE READY

From a heavenly viewpoint an angel said “Look you are seeing the earth. Look at all the churches and congregations of the earth. This church has 20,000 members. There is another with 10,000 members. This other church has 1000 members.” He continued to show me many congregations and then said “But there are very few people in these churches who are actually the true church.”

The angel said “I must tell you what the Father wants me to tell you”. The Archangel Michael was the one speaking to me. He said “Look at the earth. The churches are filled with sin, there is so much sin in these churches. Many of the people are spiritually dead”.

Through the angels the LORD showed me that 80% of the Evangelical Christian Church on earth will be Left Behind. They will be left behind because they are cold. Because they dont seek God’s presence. Because of their sin. Because they are discouraged. Only 20% will be caught up (Raptured) to be with Jesus, this is only for true Christians. That is why His word says `Many are called, but few are chosen’ (Matt 22,14). We are all called but we not only must be called, we must be chosen.

Let me explain what takes place inside many of the churches. There is very much religiosity. There is no loyalty to the word of God. Inside church, brothers and sisters happily praise the Lord. They rejoice, they dance and they speak in tongues. But when they get home they are completely different. They act like the devil himself. This is what takes place. People go home and speak things that hurt God’s heart. At home they dont pray, read God’s word or seek His presence. God does not want any of us to be left behind. It hurts me that 80% of the Church congregants are not ready for the Lord’s return. Because few of the churches truly demonstrate the true love of Jesus.

There were angels all around, then Jesus spoke to me, while the angels remained silent. The LORD said “Daughter my heart breaks to see how many people are discouraged. To see how many people have backslid. Tell my people to return to the old paths, to the First Love”

Church, you must encourage the believers. Tell them to seek God, to reject hypocrisy. Listen to what the LORD told me. The LORD said “Do you know which commandment my church has forgotten? Some think its love. Some think its faith. The forgotten commandment within my church is Holiness. My Word say ‘Be holy, for I am holy.'” (1Pet1,16). This is what the Lord says, we have to be holy inside and outside. We must have a pure heart, a clean heart that is filled with His presence. A heart filled with His love. A heart filled with God.

Angelica Zambrano, Christ is Coming 7 Comments [12/16/2017 2:47:03 AM]
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Quote# 135223

What are your views on the age of consent generally?


I think it should be abolished and replaced with a law that allows courts to decide more flexibly whether abuse of trust took place (which is really what age of consent is about, isn't it -- we all know its wrong for a 30 year old to persuade a 12 year old that a sexual relationship would be cool, but if the 12 year old thought that without persuasion, it's different...) and you have to take the different ages into account, too; I think the flexibility of the common law and the representative views of a jury are absolutely necessary here.

However, I don't ACTUALLY know how the law works in this area. If that's already what happens then good.

Bagration, The Student Room 9 Comments [12/16/2017 2:46:37 AM]
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Quote# 135222

Dilettanti Ostranenie: Earth really is flat. Not a spinning sphere it's obvious

ChrisDACase95: Reality disagrees with you.

Dilettanti Ostranenie: No curve or motion found. That’s reality

Dilettanti Ostranenie, Patheos 7 Comments [12/16/2017 2:45:07 AM]
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Quote# 135221

(Commenting on story "Kim Kardashian West slammed for excluding men from beauty casting call" - story: http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2017/12/15/kim-kardashian-west-slammed-for-excluding-men-from-beauty-casting-call.html)

Lady Checkmate:
Alt-left foolishness. Silly men (who deny who and what God created them to be) want to be "pretty" and even sillier women entertain that foolishness. Stop being silly.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 5 Comments [12/16/2017 2:44:56 AM]
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Quote# 135220

The job of police is enforcing oppression. They shake down homeless people, bust black and brown kids for nonviolent crimes, evict poor families from their homes, disrupt peaceful protests, write tickets to people they know can't afford it (ensuring they become trapped in debt to the state), facilitate brutal deportation campaigns against undocumented workers, send people to jail where they can be forced into literal slave labor, and protect the private property of the wealthy.

Even so-called "good" cops have to do those things or they get fired. As the right wing begins to enact its agenda in this country, they will probably be required to do even worse things. It doesn't matter if they're nice dudes who love their families or pet dogs. So what if they're not literal monsters 100% of the time? Nobody is. Their job requires doing shit that no good person should be comfortable doing.

MasterlessMan333, r/GamerGhazi 8 Comments [12/16/2017 2:44:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135218

That's why we need incel only social circles. Normies make me cringe and I don't want to become one or be an ally of their authoritarian regime. Even if I had friends and a gf, if I had do go normie blue pill to get that satisfaction in life, it's like a lobotomy.

That's what scares me about trying to ascend out of incel hell. If I ever get femoid affection, will I still have my soul? What will I become? A hollow shell of a once upright man? I'm totally enthusiastic about LMSmaxxing, but if these vile femoids change my spirit, it would be like roping my true self. Fuck changing for these heartless nightmare beings, society should fucking change.

Sparrow's Song, Incels.me 17 Comments [12/16/2017 2:44:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135217

Ever notice that the comments sections of North American and European papers are always most fired up on the subject of immigration? It's because we are dramatically changing the character of our civilization. Canadian cities are becoming chinese colonies , the USA is becoming more and more like Latin America and Western European cities are dominated by muslims. Western people don't mind some immigration but we have too much , it's changing our civilization too fast and in many cases it's driving down wages and driving low skilled native born workers out of the labour force .

jjfoxy, The Globe and Mail 7 Comments [12/16/2017 2:44:37 AM]
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Quote# 135216

As one who has lived in Vancouver most of my life I totally agree with the professor. I left for Victoria a year ago because the Vancouver I grew up in and thought I would never leave changed dramatically in the last 10 years. My guess is that the greater Vancouver population is 50% Asian and that has changed the atmosphere in the city completely. Does telling the truth make me or the Professor racist? I don't think so.

Oceanbuoy, The Globe and Mail 8 Comments [12/16/2017 2:44:30 AM]
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Quote# 135215

Men over the course of 3000 years have created the law using rationality, fairness and facts. Women are 53% of the electorate and are now in charge of Western Law ; they do not employ rationality and are immune to facts ; sentiment and caring now rule. To make matters worse , in Ontario, Yassir Naqvi appoints a majority of female judges for that reason; they pass judgement on the grounds of nicey-niceness and the female judges , strangely, will give Islam a free ride and figuratively crucify us.

Spud, Eurocanadian 5 Comments [12/16/2017 2:44:20 AM]
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Quote# 135211

At least with Downies you'll know that they'll be useless (not all of them but in general). Unlike the autistic people who could show potential during childhood, but then after high school start doing nothing aside from living off tax payer money.

The real Sinterklaas, Kiwi Farms 9 Comments [12/16/2017 2:43:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135188

Adolf Hitler was great because Adolf Hitler was good. He was a man for all ages and his noble philosophy is for all races. Hitler's legacy should serve to unite the diverse peoples of the world in the common cause of liberation from the murderous predatory gangsters who work ceaselessly to torture and enslave the peoples of this planet. His great name will be restored one day, but, like Jesus, only after many years of being dragged through the Marxist mud.

How deliciously ironic it is that so many non-Whites seem to be more enthused about Hitler these days than the dumbed-down Whites of the brainwashed West. Perhaps they will be the spark that serves to finally wake the dying West up to the cultural and physical genocide that is rapidly being prepared for the oblivious White Man.

Hitler's 1942 prayer may not have been answered then, but to the Eternal Cosmic Intelligence, the answering of prayers has no time-table. If and when the whole world comes to understand what World War II was really all about; it will be "lights out" for the Satanic scum of The New World Order!

With that hope in mind, let's us close as we began; with Hitler's sincere prayer for ALL humanity - a prayer that is as relevant today as it was then:

"Lord God, give us the strength that we may retain our liberty for our children and our children's children, not only for ourselves but also for the other peoples of Europe, for this is a war which we all wage, this time, not for our German people alone, it is a war for all of Europe and with it, in the long run, for all of mankind."

Amen Chief. A-flippin-men!

Mike King, Tomato Bubble 17 Comments [12/15/2017 4:14:12 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 135209

Kindly, here is another heretical quote from Curt Landry...

Curt Landry Ministries desires to create a place where the two—Jew and Gentile alike—can join together and become the abiding place that Paul spoke of, as we honor the Jewish roots of our faith and the feasts of Israel—the feasts of our Lord—with the wonderful gift and knowledge of our salvation through Yeshua, our Messiah.

SOURCE: https://www.curtlandry.com/one-new-man


Curt doesn't mention the precious name of Jesus. Instead he replaces Christ's name with “Yeshua,” which I never use, nor will use. Here's a good article and video exposing the Hebrew Roots Cult...

JESUS VERSES YESHUA (an excellent 57 minute Bible study video)

Hebrew Roots cult members believe that the precious name of “Jesus” is a corruption of the western world. Folks, the Bible says in Philippians 2:9-10, “Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth.” There is no name above the name of Jesus. Yeshua is am imposter. Don't fall for the Devil's deception that “Yeshua” means Jesus, it doesn't! Yeshua has its roots in the satanic Hebrew Roots Movement. The Holy Bible says that the precious name of “Jesus” is above EVERY OTHER NAME!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 20 Comments [12/15/2017 1:53:08 PM]
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Quote# 135206

I'm Jewish, and when it comes to demographics I think it's more complicated than you make it. Just take a look around society, right now the White population is around 62%, and you can already see a massive anti-White zeitgeist. The amount of acceptable racism targeted at Whites is, frankly, utterly disgusting. Just look at the Alabama election and the #Blackwomen trend that began trending on Twitter afterward; White women were demonized for voting for Roy Moore with such vituperative anger that it made me feel nauseated. One White woman on Jezebel was irate about how her (completely innocent) daughter was crying from guilt after reading the hatred directed to her (because she was a White woman), and the widely upvoted response was that her daughter should learn her place and realize she's an enabler of White supremacy.

The grievance mongering is totally out of hand, and as Whites become a minority it will eventually lead to (at best) Whites being utterly despised and (at worst) potentially even an actual genocide (not in the way these clowns define it) in the future. As expelling minorities is cruel and immoral, so is allowing this absurd anti-White zeitgeist to continue. For the sake of their children, Whites are under no obligation to let the demographic decline continue apace.

Rameses_2, Reddit 12 Comments [12/15/2017 12:18:51 PM]
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Quote# 135204

She was leading an immoral and unhealthy life, obviously, but she was still right that "working" with a gay male "porn star" put her at even greater risk. Homosexuals today want to stamp out criticism of their perversion. That's what this is about, what the gay wedding cake case is about, and what the removing the ban on blood donations by gay men is about. Well, tough. Sodomy is not normal or healthy.

reaganaut1, Free Republic 9 Comments [12/15/2017 12:15:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135203

The inceldom is how humans are designed. There is nosolving it,it is eternal category

Only very high IQ ppl will understand this. There is also no shame in being incel/loser etc. By design more males are born then females and their value is less,execs males used to die in wars and plagues but it is still the same concept,you have too much males who need to be filtered out.

Look at the sperm,that is your first filter out of millions of other sperm you made it first. However... now the game is just getting started as the next filtering awaits,kindergarten,schools,university,job,finding mate ,and so on untill you die. And at each of those steps you have ppl who get filtered out.That is why I laugh at low IQ ppl here who still think in terms of "hating females","MRA","MGTOW","solving societal problems",politics" etc.

If you even think in these terms you don't understand existence at all and are low IQ. Being incel is not a tragedy,it is nothing special even and is much better than having kids who are sub optimal. Really if you are struggling at life chances are you shouldn't be even alive as you are low value individual evidenced by your struggle. The only logical conclusion of being incel is to rope yourself. However I personally still hope/cope,but deep down I know my time for sui has long since passed.

St.Tropez, Incels.me 17 Comments [12/15/2017 12:13:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135201

(This quote is from the Church of Almighty God's holy book, which proclaims a Chinese woman is Jesus Christ returned. That's why it's in the first person.)

With a humanity such as this, parading about and revealing your flesh, always living amid the lust of the flesh, are you not a descendant of filthy demons and evil spirits? I will not allow such a filthy demon to remain for long! And don’t think that I don’t know what you think in your heart. You might keep a tight rein on your lust and your flesh, but could I not know the thoughts in your heart and all that your eyes desire?

Do you young ladies not make yourselves up pretty as a flower in order to parade your flesh? What benefit are men to you? Can they truly save you from the sea of affliction? And you playboys all dress to make yourselves seem gentlemanly and distinguished—is it not in order to show off your looks? And who are you doing this for? What benefit are women to you? Are they not the source of your sin? You men and women, I have said many words to you, yet you have complied with but a few of them. Your ears are heavy, your eyes have grown dim, and your hearts are hard, such that there is nothing but lust in your bodies; you are ensnared in it, unable to escape.

Who wants to go anywhere near you maggots, squirming in the filth and grime? Do not forget that you are nothing more than those whom I have raised from the dung heap, that originally, you were not possessed of normal humanity. What I ask of you is the normal humanity which you did not originally possess; I do not ask that you parade your lust, or that you give free rein to your rancid flesh, which has been trained by the devil for so many years. When you dress yourselves up like this, do you not fear that you will become ever more deeply ensnared? Do you not know that you were originally of sin? Do you not know that your bodies are filled with lust?

It’s such that your lust even seeps from your clothing, revealing your state as an unbearably ugly, filthy demon. Isn’t this what’s clearest of all to you? Your hearts, your eyes, your lips—have they not all been defiled by filthy demons? Are they not filthy? You think that as long as you don’t do anything immoral, you are the most holy; you think that dressing up prettily can cover up your sordid souls—there’s no chance of that! I advise you to be more realistic: Don’t be fraudulent and fake, and don’t parade yourselves. You show off your lust to each other, but all you’ll get is everlasting suffering and heartless chastening!

What need have you to flirt with each other and be in love? Is this your rectitude? Does this make you upstanding? I loathe those among you who practice witchcraft medicine and engage in sorcery, I loathe young men and women among you who love their own flesh. You’d best restrain yourselves, for today I ask that you possess normal humanity, not that you flaunt your lust. You always take any chance you can, for your flesh is too plentiful, and your lust too great!

Church of Almighty God, Church of Almighty God 4 Comments [12/15/2017 12:12:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135200

-[on a 24 year old creeping on 14 year old girls]

I read through all the comments - people are talking such crap,

it’s illegal - so what? the question should be is it morally wrong?

& IT IS NOT MORALLY WRONG. people wrote she’s not mature or she’s emotionally and mentally not ready - that’s such crap. I’ve met girls in their twenties who are stupid and immature and who have no life experience, they were emotionally unbalanced and definitely not ready for a relationship.

Judge it biologically and historically:

If the girl had her period she’s biologically ready and historically speaking over a 100 years ago it was normal to marry at 12+ year old. All throughout history girls have been having sex from ages 8+ (even younger in some very rare cases). It’s only been considered abnormal in the last few decades. I have friends who’s grandmothers were married at 12. My great grandmother was 14 when she married a 28 year old. In both cases they bore many children and were perfectly happy healthy women.

this is such hypocritical bullshit, people say you can look but don’t touch. and than I read some saying “if she’s 18 its ok” - says who, WHO is dictating these rules?

There are girls who don’t reach puberty until they’re 17. So who would be considered more mature biologically, a girl who reached puberty at 9 and is than having sex at 13+ or a girl who hit puberty at 17 and is having sex a few months later??

I’m attracted to girls at that age range and there’s no shame in it, the only reason I wouldn’t act upon it is because I’d go to jail. For all you commenting here, if you were alive 100 years ago this discussion would not even exist. Just think about that.

& than I read more BS: people saying she doesn’t know what she want’s or she’s too young to decide for herself. That’s assumption and generalization. It is unfair to make such a sweeping generalization about every teen & frankly one of the main reasons they are immature and irresponsible (generally speaking) is because society treats teens like children and we don’t give them responsibilities.

Additionally anyone who says teen girls look like children and their physical bodies are still small - that’s another BS argument. I’ve seen girls as young as 10 who look like adults and I’ve seen females who are 18+ who look 10.

Just look at the porn industry; they make billions from the teen porn genre; some of the girls who are over 18+ look like children, (like: Kitty Jung, Amai liu, Gigi rivera, Marcela Rubita, Tiny tyler, Kobe Tai, Lucy Filipino, Little Cinderella, Anne Howe) to name a few.

Any argument which suggests it is morally wrong to be with a 14 year old is bound to be based on a sweeping generalization, or is culturally biased or is emotionally driven. basically;

USE SOME COMMON SENSE

John, Quora 11 Comments [12/15/2017 12:12:22 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 135196

(In reply to the statement that humans are animals)

You mean like a dog or pig? You want to marry an animal and have sex with them?
Thought not... seems you don't believe your really an animal at all.

Sassy, Religion and Ethics 20 Comments [12/15/2017 4:24:45 AM]
Fundie Index: 17
Submitted By: NearlySane
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