Quote# 127817

Yes, we all miss President Obama! The overthrown king of the USA!

RetroSpriteResources, http://fluffykyubey42.deviantart.com/art/Good-bye-Mr-Obama-652115175 14 Comments [6/4/2017 5:52:28 AM]
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Quote# 127814

God decreed/ordained The Cross, the most evil (yet the most good) thing that has ever or will ever be done, child rape should look like nothing in comparison. They should be objecting to The Cross before they object to child rape, but that is what man-centered theology does, it totally skews things.

dece870717, Puritan Board 18 Comments [6/4/2017 5:52:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 127813

[Prove global warming is real. Not trolling, genuinely curious.]

Climate change is real.

Man-made climate change is not.

We do not affect the temperature of the planet in any meaningful way.

We have absolutely ZERO evidence that climate change is man-made. We have correlation going in both directions, but no actual EVIDENCE.

People who push this agenda usually are shilling some sort of product/have a vested interest in you reducing your carbon footprint, but if you will notice, the same people preaching this shit show, also have the biggest carbon footprints.

If you can show me one piece of actual evidence that can show that man is responsible for the within MARGIN OF ERROR slight increase in climate, i'll send you $50 on paypal.

If you can even show me evidence that the temperatures recorded are accurate and empirical, i'll throw you a tenner.

>protip, you can't.

These people get a fancy degree, write a hypothesis, and then do an experiment that just furthers their own conclusion. They refuse to look at any other variable because they don't care to do actual science, they just want to shill their products onto the consumers.

Anonymous, /sci/ 16 Comments [6/4/2017 5:52:03 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 127811

A disciple never looks back. As the work of the plowman demands undivided attention, so
one who "looks back" is disqualified from "service in the kingdom of God" (v. 62). Jesus
does not say that one cannot excel as a disciple if he looks back, but that such a person
cannot be his disciple at all. He means what he says. There is no room for hesitation,
distraction, or regret. "How searching is this test to those who profess to be
Christians!…Religion is everything, or nothing. He that is not willing to sacrifice
everything for the cause of God, is really willing to sacrifice nothing."


Religion must be all or nothing. It must dominate every part of thought and conduct; otherwise, our faith is
not genuine.
There are those who think that religious differences should never damage our relationships.
However, religious commitments are ultimate commitments, so that a relationship that is
not affected by them must be a most superficial relationship. If one can have a deep
relationship with another of a different religious commitment, it can only mean that they
are not devoted to their faiths. Every part of a Christian's life is dominated by his faith, or
he is not a Christian at all. Thus to have anything more than a superficial relationship with
a non-Christian must necessarily mean that he has compromised his faith. This is because
once the two venture beyond a superficial level of interaction, their two worldviews would
bound to clash. And to have the deepest kind of relationship with such a person, such as
marriage, is outright forbidden by the Bible.


As Jesus says, "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come
to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter
against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law – a man's enemies will be
the members of his own household" (Matthew 10:34-36). There will be conflicts between
Christians and non-Christians. Religious commitments are not something that can be put
aside. The non-Christians who claim to be friendly and open-minded, and who desire
fellowship with everyone, nevertheless refuse to convert to the Christian faith when we
make it a requirement for fellowship. Thus even they acknowledge that religious
commitments matter, and that what we believe about the ultimate issues is more important
than peace and relationships. The difference is that they are self-righteous and hypocritical
about this – they say that they value peace and relationships, but they ask us to put aside
our Christian principles while they hold on to their own beliefs about religious and ultimate
matters.


Only God has ever demanded total dedication from men and women in the way Jesus does.
We must keep in mind that when we are dealing with Jesus Christ, we are dealing with
God himself. Our readiness to follow him reflects our attitude toward God, because Jesus
is Go

Vincent Cheung, Godliness with Contentment (.pdf) 10 Comments [6/4/2017 5:51:52 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 127810

Yesterday, Religious Right pundit Michael Snyder unveiled “a list of 100 things liberals hate about America,” warning that if liberals get their way, “the country that you and I love so much today will be gone forever.”

The list of things liberals hate about America includes big trucks, big cheeseburgers, Jesus, Israel and Dolly Parton.

The U.S. Constitution
Liberty
Freedom
Success
Big Trucks
Capitalism
Free Markets
Wealthy People
Economic Prosperity
The Rule of Law
Traditional Values
The American Flag
The Founding Fathers
Guns
Limited Government
Religious Freedom
Homeschooling
Private Schools
Christian Schools
Entrepreneurs
Ronald Reagan
Donald Trump
Mike Pence
Country Music
Rush Limbaugh
The Tea Party
Lower Taxes
Old-Fashioned Light Bulbs
Jesus
The Bible
The Christian Faith
The Drudge Report
John Wayne
Alex Jones
NASCAR
Tupperware
Big Cheeseburgers
Football
Clint Eastwood
The Army
The Navy
The Marines
The Air Force
Ron Paul
Rand Paul
Marriage
Family
Babies
Wal-Mart
Flag Pins
Steakhouses
Chuck Norris
Bottled Water
George Washington
The 1st Amendment
The 2nd Amendment
The 10th Amendment
The Pledge of Allegiance
McDonald’s
Coca-Cola
Fried Food
Muscle Cars
Charlie Daniels
Dolly Parton
Duck Dynasty
Johnny Cash
Sarah Palin
Cheesesteaks
Sean Hannity
Rodeos
Cadillacs
Barbie Dolls
Ted Cruz
Fiscal Sanity
Charlton Heston
Israel
Benjamin Netanyahu
Miners
Loggers
The Coal Industry
National Sovereignty
National Borders
Uncle Sam
The Washington Redskins
Small Businesses
Self-Employment
Harley-Davidson Motorcycles
Military Veterans
The Phrase “Islamic Terror”
Big Families
The Bible Belt
The Creation Museum
The 10 Commandments
Anyone That Is Pro-Life
Anyone Who Disagrees With Them
Hard Work
Patriotism
Winning
The Truth
The American People

Michael Snyder, Right Wing Watch 35 Comments [6/4/2017 5:51:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 127807

A competition launched on the health ministry's website offers up to $1,000 (£780) for the best videos tackling "gender confusion".

Responding to an outcry from LGBT activists, the health ministry said that its aim was to promote creativity, not to discriminate.

The contest is for 13- to 24-year-olds.

Their entries should explore prevention and control; issues and consequences; and how to get help, said the ministry's website.

In a statement, Deputy Director-General of Health Lokman Hakim Sulaiman said: "This creative video competition is purely to tap knowledge and creativity of adolescents on sexual and reproductive health related matters and does not intend to create discrimination to any particular group."

The competition, which closes at the end of August, has three main categories: gender confusion, sex, and sex and the internet.

The guidelines cited gay and lesbian people, transgender people and tomboys as examples of people who suffered from "gender confusion".

"The very fact that they lump LGBT people under a category called 'gender confusion' shows that the authorities are very much confused themselves," activist Pang Khee Teik told AFP news agency.

"It is mind-blowing that a government agency wants the whole country to be sucked into its confluence of confusion," he said.

"I was shocked. This is encouraging discrimination, hatred and even violence towards the minorities," transgender activist Nisha Ayub told Reuters.

Homosexual activity is illegal in Malaysia under both secular and religious laws.

It is punishable by a prison sentence or corporal punishment.

In March, the release of Disney's Beauty and the Beast was postponed in the country, because it contained a "gay moment".

Despite demands from the Malaysian censorship board, Disney refused to remove the scene, featuring LeFou, their first openly gay character.

The Malaysian board eventually conceded and it was shown uncut.

A prominent Malaysian opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim, was jailed for sodomy in 2014, after a court overturned his earlier acquittal. In elections in 2013, he led a three-party alliance which posed the strongest-ever challenge to the coalition which has governed Malaysia for more than half a century.

The Malaysian Government, BBC News 4 Comments [6/4/2017 5:51:09 AM]
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Submitted By: TheReasonator

Quote# 127806

if you really wanted to destroy the major symbols of slavery and racial discrimination, you would ban the Democratic Party.

Mason Weaver, WND 10 Comments [6/4/2017 5:40:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 127787

So....all u haters & trolls out there?? Guess how uneducated u r? #COVEFEFE #covefefegate. #YouGoPOTUS #MAGA #AmericaFirst #ThursdayThought


(Covfefe' (pronounced "cuv-fee-fae") is an Antediluvian term for.
"In the end we win."
It was commonly used by the sons of Adam to rail against the evil actions of the fallen who had led man astray.

The term gained popularity prior to the great deluge and was rarely used after the flood subsised. It regained favor around the time Nimrod was building his tower, after which it was entirely lost in translation at Babel.

My President - Got eeeeeemmmm!
Poor media!)


Jali_Cat, Twitter 48 Comments [6/3/2017 3:14:52 AM]
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Quote# 127785

I feel like ranting a little...

I don't know about some of you - but I'm sick and tired of feeling like the witches, New Agers and occultists have the upper hand on this thing we call the supernatural!

What WE have is greater and more powerful than what THEY have. But far too many Christians tend to shy away from the supernatural element: when without it - we wouldn't even have Christianity!

Christianity is a supernatural faith! It was born in the miraculous, grew in the miraculous and sustained all these years in miraculous ways. Our faith is one where angels are real, demons are defeated, cures from sickness and disease can occur with a touch, and with a bold command we can break the mental chains of mind control off of the mind of satan's hapless victims.

Christians need to get back to the basics of our faith. Get back to supernatural power: HOLY GHOST POWER. Get back to speaking in new tongues, laying hands on the sick, etc.

We now have Christians doing yoga and going to Reiki practitioners for healing - when God has provided healing for the saints through the laying on of hands and faith; not through occult methods!

We have Christian folks going to psychics and witches; stuffing their mouths with different psychiatric pills just to get some sense of peace in their minds. All this when Jesus has provided us with peace that passes understanding: meaning that it's a supernatural peace that no amount of medication can replicate.

The saints use to know that mental instability, physical sickness and disease were caused by evil spirits. Now we've gotten too fancy for our own britches - so we ignore the supernatural causes and resort to doing what those who deny the existence of God do to get results from their troubles.

In our long absence from the supernatural, witches, warlocks and other occult practitioners have stepped in offering their own version of supernatural results; wowing and dazzling people with demon power. And folks are flocking to them by the thousands: which is why witchcraft is now the fastest growing religion in the United States, with Islam close on its tail.

Meanwhile Christianity goes home with the bronze metal. Do we honestly believe Jesus Christ deserves THIRD place in any race???

Part of the problem is that we have too many tares growing alongside the wheat: too many goats prancing around with the sheep! It's hard to tell who's a saint now from a sinner. Case in point:

Often when I'm dealing with the topic of demons, inevitably someone will come onto the comment stream saying something like "All you need is Jesus. Just say a prayer and you'll be alright."

People who say this are misleading you, and know little to nothing about what attaches demons to a person in the first place, nor how to make one genuinely leave for good.

If all it took was saying a simple prayer to Jesus, everyone who attends church would be saved and demon-free. Neither does attending church automatically make you demon-proof. Demons go to church too! *see Luke 4:33

What you need is KNOWLEDGE: something that's sorely missing in the lives of many believers. This is what my ebooks provide. They take back the power that the devil has stolen from the Church - gives you a supernatural edge, providing power and genuine answers that last and work.

I urge you to download my ebooks today. They're my assignment to you to provide you with wisdom and understanding to live a holy life so God can bless you with His power and help you through the troubles in your life.

But don't just get them: actually READ them! I didn't write these many ebooks just to make a sell. Trust me: there are better ways to make a dollar than selling ebooks to people that deal with the sin and demons in their lives.

Most people are comfortably uncomfortable in their sins anyway. But Christ loves us too much to just leave us in a sinful state. So He raises up a Mack Major (and others) to pull you back onto the proper path. Facebook is increasingly making it harder for me to reach you with these messages - so take advantage of these posts and links now while you still can.

To download my ebooks go to edendecoded.com/books. And remember: the supernatural is your natural state as a Christian. That's your place and position of power provided by our Lord Jesus Christ. And when you occupy that place, nothing can ever defeat you. God bless


Mack Major, Facebook 22 Comments [6/3/2017 1:50:49 AM]
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Quote# 127782

(This is about Harold, one of the main characters in Captain Underpants, being revealed to have a husband in a future scene)

Captain Panderpants

I grew up with CU. I remember when it first came out. There was NEVER any mention of something like sexuality or the like. Those things arent necessary in a CHILDRENS BOOK. Now, for Pilkey to all of a sudden make Harold gay, is shameful and ingenuine. Its blatant pandering and needlessly shoving a political message down kids throats.

I dont hate gays. If Harold was gay from the start this post wouldnt exist. Its the pandering that has me heated. Pilkey is saying “LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE IAM!” with this, and its disgusting . I hate sellouts

Yall missed the point entirely. It’s incredibly obvious Pilkey only did this to satiate fanatical nazis like yall. Otherwise, it would have been brought up long before 2015. He’s said out his own mouth about their mental disabilities and all that. Never said shit about anyone being gay.

Now he pulls it out his ass knowing the liberal media and yall cucks are gonna praise him and give mad brownie points. There’s gonna be mindless idiots who buy these books for their kids now SOLELY because Harold is now gay. Just like when they first came out there were a lot of black parents who ONLY bought the books because George is black.

If it turns out Harold turned out to be gay, wonderful, but there was no building to that. There was no hinting, no explanation, nothing. Both of their disabilities are emphasized, explained, and normalized throughout the original books. As some of you have said, that was indeed a major point. Even as a child I caught that. It wasn’t a political message, but a social one.

Pilkey was saying “This is whats going on.” That’s awesome. I enjoyed that as a kid because I myself experienced mistreatment for my psyche problems. I was considered a throwaway, a hopeless, violent spaz.

This, however, conveys none of that. There’s no bringing of awareness or point. It’s just “Oh BTW Harold’s gay.”, and that’s honestly more harmful than anything because now he’s just a token. Now he only exists to be the gay character. There’s no significance. It’s pandering, plain and simple.
Anyone who can’t see that has their head far up their asses.

evil-little-princess-from-hell, Tumblr 45 Comments [6/3/2017 1:45:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 127780

Transgender is a mental illness. Just because you don't believe in god doesn't mean you should let these barbaric perverts do what they want. It's literally the exact reason you might not believe in the bible ex) sodom and gomorrah

James Bowen, Facebook 19 Comments [6/2/2017 11:02:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 127775

(commenting on story "Farmer Files Suit After Being Banned from Selling at Market for Disallowing 'Gay Weddings' (sic) on Property"):

Oboehner:
Sexual perversion is not a constitutionally protected right, if that perversion affects others practicing their constitutionally protected right to practice their religion it not the religious person's duty to accommodate them. Remember, the lesbo's approached the farmer, not the other way around.

Colin Rafferty:
Wrong. See Lawrence v. Texas. That's the deciding law about "sexual perversion". Anyway, a wedding is not about sex. You must be thinking of the honeymoon. The discrimination is about the gender of the participants. Which in East Lansing is protected.

Oboehner:
"See Lawrence v. Texas"
See Article 1, Section 1 of the Constitution which states ALL legislative powers rest in Congress.
The refusal was about a lifestyle CHOICE that contradicts the religious belief of the farmer.

Colin Rafferty:
Are you seriously using that canard about the Supreme Court doesn't actually have the power it has always had, and always been recognized to have had? Get a grip.
Just as the rationale behind the business's actions are unimportant, so is the reason why they wanted to get married. They were discriminated against because of their gender. That is against the law in East Lansing.

Oboehner:
Are you seriously using that canard about the Supreme Court having the ability to legislate despite NO ONE actually able to back that up other than some asinine tradition? Get a grip.
"They were discriminated against because of their gender." That's a big old steamy pile of BS, that should be against the law in East Lancing.

Colin Rafferty:
That's exactly why they were discriminated against. If one of them was male, they would have had their wedding there. They didn't because they were both women.
Why do you find this so hard to understand?

Oboehner:
There's another big old steamy pile. If they had gone there for any other purpose than an activity the hosts did not believe in, they would have been gladly served - both females.

Colin Rafferty:
That doesn't change the fact that they were discriminated against because of their gender.

Oboehner:
Still steamy, still a big pile. A "wedding" is an activity, the farmer stated her served deviants - he did not want to host the ACTIVITY.

Colin Rafferty:
But he already hosts weddings. If he didn't want to host weddings, he shouldn't advertise for them.

Oboehner:
Just practicing his constitutionally protected right.

Oboehner, Christian News Network 19 Comments [6/2/2017 10:59:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 127774

Re: Malleus Maleficarum : Redheads are prone to be Witches , Vampires and Werewolves

i myself tend to give more credit to the theory that blondes and redheads are more recently, or have a more persistent genetic origin, from off-world. iirc, redheads and most natural blondes (especially platinum blondes) are found to be RH- and/or of the O blood type, among other traits not found in any other earthling human populace group.

As such, i would propose that (natural) redheads and platinum blondes are rather better off being genetically prized, not persecuted, for they are the White races most delicate treasures. We should be having lots and lots of red-headed, blue eyed, RH negative and O-blood-type, pale as a goth ever was, children.

cosmicgirl, stormfront.org 18 Comments [6/2/2017 10:59:48 PM]
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Quote# 127772

It doesn’t take long to figure out that God doesn’t pass out the help and healing at an even rate in this world. Ever meet that person who went through a similar or even worse trauma than you, only today they’re totally over it while you’re still stuck with life stopping scars? Ever go to counseling for years trying to work through your issues only to be surrounded by Christians who get the quick fix from Jesus? While some addicts are faithfully attending weekly support groups only to keep losing their grip on sobriety, others say one prayer and down comes the miracle cure. Those who are healed quickly love to go around talking about how great God is, while those who are never getting healed sit there feeling like members of God’s reject pile. If God keeps saying “not now” to all your requests for deliverance, how should you interpret the fact that He keeps withholding His favor from you? Isn’t that what God’s healing is supposed to be a sign of—His favor? This is what many misguided Christians will teach you to believe, but in reality their idea of Divine favor is a very shallow, fleshly thing. All they’re focused on is being comfortable in their earthsuits. When they get physical, emotional, and mental peace, they think they’ve won the grand prize. Well, they are wrong. God has far grander prizes that He wants to pass out and while many want you to think you’ve been bumped to the back of the line because God won’t free you up, from His perspective, there’s something very different going on.

(...)

When God withholds healing from those who sincerely want to please Him, it is NOT a punishment, it is NOT a rejection, and it is NOT evidence of His disinterest in them. God operates differently than we do. When He is super excited about a soul, He doesn’t go trumpeting their name all over the earth. These Christians who go swaggering around flaunting their abundant blessings in your face and trying to imply that they’ve “earned” God’s favor by wowing Him with their great faith and loyalty—they’re already collecting their reward. The fickle envy and temporary applause of other Christians is all these braggarts are going to get. So never mind these idiot shepherds and healers who try to tell you that you’re some lesser sheep in God’s flock because He is withholding healing from you. These people are blind fools who can’t recognize the real evidence of Divine favor when that evidence is right in front of their faces. When you sincerely want to be closer to God in life, you WILL be closer. When you sincerely want to please Him, you ARE pleasing Him. When He keeps the burdens on your back it’s because the pressure they create in your life is going to take you places with Him that are infinitely better than a life of carnal comforts. You might feel stuck, but from His perspective, you’re making fabulous progress. You might feel slow and stupid, but you’re not. These lessons are HARD. They take TIME to grind through, so try to be patient with yourself and with God. He is not leaving you behind. Instead He’s leading you away from the main herd so you can experience a kind of communion with Him that He only offers to a select few. Sure, we’d all like to have instant cures and a comfy life. But if we’re wise, we’ll realize that far better treasures exist and we’ll ask God to help us hold out for HIS best.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God  11 Comments [6/2/2017 12:21:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 127767

David Whitney of the Maryland-based Institute on the Constitution delivered a sermon last weekend in which he blamed the murder of a young black man by a racist white student on the campus of the University of Maryland on the teaching of evolution.

Whitney dedicated his sermon on Sunday to blaming Sean Christopher Urbanski’s deadly racist attack on Army Lt. Richard Collins III on everything from legal abortion to gun control, but placed most of the blame on the teaching of evolution in public schools.

“As in all public schools, evolution is inculcated and it teaches that there is no Creator God and that everything in the universe came into existence by chance and mistake, accident and is wholly without purpose and without meaning of any kind,” Whitney preached. “He was taught that mankind, including himself, was nothing more than a long compilation of mistakes and mutations and chance occurrences.”

“We should not be surprised then if Sean, with that background and education, concluded that life is meaningless, without any purpose at all,” he continued. “Or, if there is a purpose in life, it would be to advance and further the process of evolution; a process in which the strong destroy the weak and indeed, ultimately, that is the purpose for existence. Survival of the fittest therefore has some rather dastardly consequences which we see in the murder committed by a secular humanist of a Christian young man.”

“Evolution is also the basis of racism, [and] many assert that racism played a role in the motivation for this murder,” Whitney said. “You see, evolution is essentially racist. So where did Sean Urbanski learn racism? He learned it in his classes on evolution at the local public high school that his parents sent him to and his parents funded that school by the payment of their property taxes.”

David Whitney, Right Wing Watch 14 Comments [6/2/2017 9:15:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 127759

There are no atheistic animals, and there are no atheistic people. God said so here, Psalm 19, and the below verse:


Romans 1:18-22—For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold The Truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them [or, “to them”]; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead [trinity]; so that they are [or, “that they may be”] without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,


Pretty self-explanatory, do you not think?

AmbassadorHerald, Deviantart 22 Comments [6/2/2017 7:18:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By: P.E.T.F

Quote# 127752

A North Carolina minister "directed and participated in" the beating of a congregant who says the assault was meant to expel his "homosexual demons," a prosecutor said Thursday.

Prosecutor Garland Byers gave his opening statement in the trial of Brooke Covington, a 58-year-old a minister at Word of Faith Fellowship in Spindale, North Carolina.

Covington is the first of five church members to face trial in the case. Each defendant will be tried separately.

Covington is charged with kidnapping and assaulting former church member Matthew Fenner. If convicted, she faces up to two years in prison.

Fenner, 23, has said he was leaving a prayer service Jan. 27, 2013, when nearly two dozen people surrounded him in the sanctuary. He said they slapped, punched, choked and blasted him - a church practice that involves intense screaming - for two hours as they tried to expel his "homosexual demons."

During the assault, Fenner "thought he was going to pass out," Byers told the jury. "He was severely beaten."

Covington's lawyer, David Teddy, painted a different picture.

Teddy said the congregation gave Fenner routine prayer that lasted no longer than 15 to 20 minutes. When the prayer was over, Fenner "hugged everybody and left the church," Teddy said.

As part of an ongoing, two-year investigation into abuse of Word of Faith Fellowship congregants by church leaders, The Associated Press interviewed four former church members who say they witnessed Fenner being attacked.

Based on interviews with 43 former members, documents and secretly made recordings, the AP reported in February that Word of Faith Fellowship congregants were regularly punched, smacked, choked, slammed to the floor or thrown through walls in a violent form of deliverance meant to "purify" sinners by beating out devils.

Fenner said he joined the sect with his mother and brother in 2010. He fled after he said he was attacked.

"You can't imagine the emotional toll this has taken on my life. I had to put a lot of things on hold because of this. ... I can't do anything until this is over," Fenner previously told AP.

The defense had filed requests to move the trial out of Rutherford County, located in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains midway between Charlotte and Asheville, due to years of negative publicity about the church's practices. As an alternative, the defense asked to have a jury brought in from another area.

Superior Court Judge Gary Gavenus denied those requests.

The AP's investigation also revealed that congregants were ordered by church leaders to lie to authorities investigating reports of abuse and that two assistant district attorneys and a veteran social worker were among those who coached congregants and their children on what to say to investigators. After the AP report, the prosecutors, including one who is a son-in-law of a church founder, left their jobs, and the social worker resigned.

The sect was founded in 1979 by Jane Whaley, a former math teacher, and her husband, Sam, a former used car salesman. Under Jane Whaley's leadership, Word of Faith Fellowship grew from a handful of followers to a 750-member congregation in North Carolina, and another nearly 2,000 members in churches in Brazil and Ghana. It also has affiliations in other countries.

Word of Faith Fellowship, EDGE Media Network 14 Comments [6/2/2017 12:40:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 127746

9 Reasons Why Child Porn Laws Are Evil

When I started writing this article I couldn’t believe how many reasons I could come up with as to why child pornography laws are totally wrong. So without further ado, it’s time to abolish this offence from our legal statutes; and here’s no less than 9 reasons why:-

1. Child abuse images are completely legal, while child porn images are not

Imagine, hypothetically, you came across a video on the internet that featured a seedy man in a dark room with a big, sharp hammer. The man had a look of pure evil in his eyes and in a corner of the room hudled a young girl. The man slowly took a step towards her, ‘I’m going to hit you’ he said softly. The girl had a look of terror on her face. He shook his hammer in the air and she reflexively put her hands around her head. ‘I’m going to kill you’ he said louder taking another step. He lifted his hammer high up in the air. Suddenly the child made a desperate bid to run away but he grabbed her and struck a blow to her skull. Her skull could be seen to be smashed and blood poured out. The camera showed him hitting her again and again and again until there was nothing left other than a lifeless decapitated mess on the floor. Then the video ended.

Would you have not thought that such a horrific video would be illegal and probably classed as level 5 child porn (the most severe)?

Think again.

In reality extreme child abuse images like those depicted above are completely legal. Why? Because it is not sexual. It is horrific violence. In our society violence and abuse are celebrated while sex, love and affection are criminalised.

A man possessing bath photos of 5 year old girls would receive years, even decades, in prison. A man possessing the hypothetical video above would not receive even a single day behind bars.

And this is the legal situation that our hateful and vindictive politicians support.

As Orwell might have said: Our politicians have redefined Child Abuse to be Child Love and Child Love to be Child Abuse.

2. Child porn is not child abuse

Not only are the most horrific child abuse images completely legal and not considered to be child porn, but most of what counts as child pornography does not even depict child abuse.

Let us examine the definitions of child pornography under the COPINE scale (or SAP scale as it is more accurately referred to), this is the scale typically used by the police when measuring the ‘severity’ of a child porn image. It goes from level 1 (least severe) to level 5 (most severe).

By examining the definitions of child porn on the COPINE scale we find that child pornography images levels 1 – 4 are categorically NOT abuse images. This is because level 1 covers bath photos and levels 2 – 4 cover sexual activity only, no mention of violence is made. As we know from the RIND meta study, which analysed some 59 other studies it found that sexual activity with children does not usually cause harm, contrary to contemporary feminist dogma.

Any image in which pain is implied is automatically elevated to level 5 on the COPINE scale. This does not, however, imply that level 5 images always involve pain. This is because any image with an animal involved in any way at all would also count as level 5. Nor does it imply that any image involving pain is level 5 – as discussed above an image of a child being brutally murdered would not be considered child pornography at all despite that being the most horrific thing that can happen to a person.

3. Child porn is a thought crime

Child porn is a thought crime. It involves no actions. Merely being a curious individual and seeking possession of a single image can result in decades behind bars. This is the same way that possession of a blank book would have resulted in 20 years behind bars in the novel 1984. The creation of thought crime legislation is the primary indicator of a full blown totalitarian state.

No harm is ever committed in having thoughts, even bad or dangerous ones. If people cannot express and discuss their thoughts then they will in many cases suffer in silence and in other cases explode in outbursts of extreme violence such as, for example, virgin killers like Elliot Rodger.

4. Criminalising any image is an affront to democracy

Freedom of speech and freedom of expression are essential components of a democracy.

Child pornography laws undermine freedom of expression. Possessing and distributing child porn is free expression.

The consequences of undermining freedom of expression cannot be understated. A country without freedom of expression cannot be a democracy. Without an informed and educated electorate the voters are merely sheep voting based only on what they are allowed to know. However, if they were provided with the full facts then they would have come to wildly different voting decisions.

In essence the society we live in today is a pseudo-democracy. A society where an uninformed and ignorant electorate vote. This leads to tyranny. Already we can see this with the massive escalation of child porn and child sex sentences worldwide and its associated age of consent dogma. The belief that sexual activity with anyone below the age of consent is always horrific abuse is caused in part by the criminalisation of child pornography i.e. the removal of evidence that breaking age of consent laws does not cause harm in and of itself.

It is modern day book burning.

As older folk who lived in more tolerant times die out the society becomes increasingly ignorant to the point that reality becomes entirely warped, as is happening with the Savile affair in Britain, including absurd claims that he engaged in necrophilia.

The road to tyranny is then well and truly laid.

5. Banning one thing leads to the ‘slippery slope’ effect of banning everything

As soon as one thing is banned it then becomes acceptable to start banning more things until even you are classed as a serious organised criminal, sex offender or terrorist (if you aren’t already).

This is already happening with the expanding definition of child pornography. For example, in the UK it was initially limited to children under 16. Then it got expanded to ‘children’ under 18, despite the age of consent still being 16. Laws were then introduced to criminalise not only ‘real’ images but also cartoon drawings. So-called ‘extreme pornography’ which included adults engaging in bestiality or BDSM also became criminalised. And now, images of women pretending to be raped is in the process of being criminalised.

This of course ignores the onslaught of anti-terrorist legislation, which makes glorifying terrorism illegal and has some extreme double standards. The terrorist murder of Osama Bin Laden for instance, glorified by the mainstream media, was not seen as criminal whilst calling for genocidal politicians from the American or British regimes to be hung, drawn and quartered would be. And let us not even get into the minefield of ‘hate speech’ legislation – such as ‘anti-racist’ speech…

The bottom line is that banning has become endemic to our political class. They will only ever be satisfied once everything is criminalised and the entire population live in cages.

6. Child porn laws undermine the rule of law

The rule of law is essential to a peaceful society where random violence is minimised. The state must not be able to arbitrarily arrest people just because they can. There must be the appropriate checks and balances.

Child pornography laws allow the arbitrary arrest of just about anyone. Anyone who has ever used the internet can easily be raided by the police on suspicion of possessing or distributing child pornography. All that is needed for a conviction is for the police to find one single thumbnail image. Such an image can often be placed in a defendant’s possession without their knowledge as a consequence of computer viruses, accidental website hits as well as vengeful colleagues, friends and wives who deliberately frame an individual. Even if the defendent accidentally came across the image and deleted it immediately the police can still find it, charge and convict the man for a thought crime offence.

This process can also lead to ‘selective enforcement’ in other words those who stand up against the prevailing ideology or police state would be automatically raided by the police and likely found to be in possession of child porn. On the otherhand, high ranking paedofinder general politicians would never be raided even though they probably possess more child porn than anyone else (they need to behave like paedofinder generals to reduce their risk of arrest, afterall).

7. Child porn laws are so excessively broad that they effectively rape children of their childhood

Child pornography laws are now so broad that even non-nude images can count as child porn. The paedohysterical atmosphere has resulted in a climate so extreme that schools frequently ban parents from photographing their own children. This means that youth growing up today will not have any photos of their childhood. Their childhood is essentially stolen from them by the police state. And worst of all, children are prevented from learning about life (like playing on the streets, as kids used to do) and from forming normal relationships with adults (especially men).

In essence, child pornography laws and our paedohysterical atmosphere effectively rape children of their childhood by stealing from them what past generations took for granted.

8. Banning child porn allows child rapists and child abusers to walk free

It is a well known fact that police officers are lazy. They like to go for the easiest to lynch people. There is no one easier to lynch than sexting teenagers. Often unaware that what they are doing is even illegal they become an easy catch for the paedophile unit. The propagation of child pornography and age of consent laws means that making arrests is like shooting fish in a barrel. And amongst the fish, big bad fish can hide and not be shot because they are not the targets.

Criminalising low-level, harmless consensual sexual behaviour results in kind and harmless individuals being piled up in prison whilst real violent thugs and rapists are free to abuse and rape again.

9. Those who seek to ban child pornography are all paedophiles themselves anyway

Much like many in the Nazi party were homosexuals many of our legislators, especially anti child pornography legislators, are infact paedophiles themselves. Take the arrest of Cameron’s close aide Patrick Rock on suspected child pornography charges as an example of this.

One arrest you say? Just a bad apple? How about the revelations that some senior cabinet ministers in Tony Blair’s former government were believed to be fapping off to child porn? Not only that, but the government issued D-Notices to the mainstream media to stop them reporting on the story. And they all obeyed.

What does this, in essence, mean? It means that what is commonly called ‘paedophilia’ is really normal male sexuality. It means that our politicians are all a bunch of hypocrites who criminalise normal male sexuality in order to endlessly increase their power. And then they break their own laws. They are opportunistic bastards.

Already more and more people are starting to talk about ‘paedophiles in high places’. I can only but guess that some of this is because the population are getting sick of paedophile hysteria yet they are too scared or too stupid to point out that the laws themselves are the problem.


holocaust21, holocaust21 Resisting the coming 21st century holocaust – Men's Rights, Youth Rights, Sexual Rights  25 Comments [6/1/2017 9:55:21 PM]
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Evidence? Who needs evidence to believe in evolution!

Darwin, nit wit, absolutely believed the fossils were necessary for his theory to be valid and bemoaned the lack of them to back his theory.

Evolutionists can't even agree WHY the missing links are missing by the millions and why the first of all animal phylum appear fully-formed the first time they appear in the Cambrian. That has how half-baked, cult-like the theory is.

Evolution is intellectually indefensible. It takes a spiritual blindness to accept it.

If God created species in their present form, it is proof there is a God one is accountable. Avoiding that reality is the sole reason to hang onto the theory.

[email protected]Realabortiondebate 17 Comments [6/1/2017 9:55:16 PM]
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So what do you do when you’ve decided to turn a dead guy into one of your national heroes? Well, consider what the Catholics have done with Mary: they have invented a whole bunch of ridiculous fables about her to make her sound extra awesome. The Jews did the same thing with guys like Moses and Abraham. This business about Michael and Satan fighting over Moses’ corpse is a way of making Moses sound super awesome. He’s so fabulous that the highest ranking angel in Heaven just has to have him. But the notorious king of evil–Satan–wants him, too, and that’s a kind of reverse compliment. Once you understand that New Testament Jews viewed Satan like a kind of demigod who actually ruled over the earth, well, then it’s even more impressive that Satan was paying so much attention to Moses. Whether you’re good or bad, if you’ve got power, then your opinion is considered important. Old Moses had the top ranking officers on both sides of the supernatural realm fighting over him, so obviously that meant he was big stuff.

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Now obsessing over the body is nothing new–the ancient Egyptians and many other ancient cultures showed a lot of concern about burying their earthsuits in good condition. But all of this fussing over the body is based on the very wrong assumption that our bodies continue to matter after we die. When you die, only your soul goes on to the next world. Your physical body decomposes as part of God’s fabulous recycling program and it ceases to exist. When Moses died in real life, his soul went on to a new dimension, and his body became irrelevant. But since Moses was a hero, the Jews couldn’t accept that no one in the supernatural realms cared about his body. Instead, they whipped up a bunch of wild tales like this one that Jude is referring to.

No one wants their great hero to just fade out quietly–heroes are supposed to go out in some dramatic way so we can keep talking about them for generations to come. Just look at what Christians have done to Peter–the man volunteered to be crucified upside down. Of course tales like this are just a bunch of hokum that we invented to make our heroes sound more heroic. But such stories keep the idolatry flowing, because how stellar does Peter sound to go for an upside down cross? Obviously a man’s devotion to God is illustrated by his method of execution, right? Well, no. The manner in which you’re killed really doesn’t have bumpkus to do with your soul’s attitude towards God. Whether you’re crucified right side up, upside down, or sideways, God is going to be judging you by the soul choices you made during your whole life on earth. You don’t get extra points for going out in some ultra agonizing way, just as you don’t get docked points for dying of natural causes. The morbid Christian fixation with gruesome martyr stories only reflects how backwards our priorities are.

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It’s a very neat trick Yahweh did about hiding Moses’ body from the Jews. And when we see what the Jews turned Moses into, we can appreciate why God did this. Just imagine if Moses’ bones were enshrined in some temple somewhere today–no doubt scores of people would be camped at that place praying to the bones, kissing the bones, and worshiping the bones. When you see how modern day Christians fruit out over their “holy relics”–weeping, crying, and praying to fragments of cloth, old bones, and splinters of wood–you can see why Yahweh just wasn’t interested in arming the Jews with a whole corpse that they could deify.

Now when you consider that millions of Jews were present at the time Moses died–and when you consider that those same Jews faithfully carried Joseph’s bones out of Egypt and hauled them around for forty years in the desert just so they could bury him in the Promised Land–it is really quite miraculous that Moses’ corpse was completely lost. The Jews usually made quite a fuss over the remains of their prominent leaders, so how do millions of eye witnesses fail to remember where Moses was buried? This account demonstrates how easy it is for God to cause us to lose track of things that He doesn’t want us to keep holding onto.

Wherever Moses was buried, his corpse is long gone. Since the Jews weren’t practicing the mummification rituals of the Egyptians, God’s natural processes would have made short work of Moses’ corpse. As for Moses’ soul–that was immediately transferred to another dimension after Moses died. How Moses is doing with God today is something only he and God know about. We certainly don’t want to view him as some kind of standard that we can only hope to live up to. Instead, we should set our sights on doing far better than Moses did by making our own submission to God a lot deeper than Moses’ was. And as for Jude and his silly tales of angelic beings fighting over a corpse, well, what can we say? It’s Jude. It’s the Bible. Don’t expect perfection.



Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God  18 Comments [6/1/2017 1:39:34 PM]
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Quote# 127733

The first target was indescribable, but I quickly became immune. When they swam, I was almost on autopilot and wanted to execute as many as possible. I was thinking about setting the main building on fire, because there were many who had barricaded themselves there.

Most on the island were over 18 years. The average age was probably 22 or 23 years. I thought about stopping half way through, but executed another 20 afterwards.

Anders Behring Breivik,  The Breivik Archive 20 Comments [6/1/2017 1:37:42 PM]
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Televangelist Jim Bakker sat down today with Ramiro Peña, a Texas-based pastor and a member of Donald Trump’s Hispanic advisory board, to discuss Peña’s recent meeting with Trump and other religious leaders in the White House.

While criticizing calls to impeach Trump, Bakker said that such a move would lead to war: “If it happens, there will be a civil war in the United States of America. The Christians will finally come out of the shadows because we are going to be shut up permanently if we’re not careful.”

Last week, Bakker warned that Trump’s impeachment would bring about God’s judgment on America.

Jim Bakker, Right Wing Watch 23 Comments [6/1/2017 1:34:13 PM]
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[On Kathy Griffin's Trump head photo]

I SO hope they deport this skank...

Erik Rush, Twitter 13 Comments [6/1/2017 1:33:35 PM]
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As we said before, gaining knowledge about God is a whole different deal than learning about other humans. In this world, knowledge is a commodity that we buy and sell. It’s ammunition that we use to gain power for ourselves and trash others. But because knowledge is so readily accessible, we’ve learned to treat it as a cheap and common thing. We’re used to feeling entitled to it, and we’re used to flaunting it like gaudy jewelry just to draw attention to ourselves.

Consider how often you see people broadcasting intimate facts about someone else just to draw attention to themselves. Gossip rags delight in posting pictures of celebrities sobbing or making out just so the rags will sell more copies. With the introduction of forums like Facebook and Twitter, we’ve seen the value of private information drop even lower. It used to be that couples went on their honeymoons to get away from others and share secret, intimate moments in the bedroom. Now people bring their phones with them and take pornographic photos of themselves making out with their spouses. Pregnant mothers post pictures of themselves in the nude just before giving birth so we can all see the size of their stomachs. When loved ones are ill, we photograph them sitting in hospital beds and invite the whole world to gawk at them. People can’t share secrets or sincere compliments anymore without some concern that what they said will end up pasted on the internet. “My husband said the sweetest thing to me in bed the other day.” Really? Since when are bedroom conversations supposed to be broadcast to the whole world? Did you even bother to ask for your friend’s permission before you repeated what she said to you to an audience of strangers?

Now in the Church, we find a similarly nauseating show of people broadcasting their personal conversations with God just as a means to draw attention to themselves. Pompous prophets crank out the books and blogs in which they give us all a blow-by-blow description of the night Jesus materialized in their bedroom and told them how impressed He was with them. Many fat-headed pastors just can’t wait to get onstage Sunday morning and tell us all about the conversation they had with God at breakfast. Prayer warriors are always going on about who said what in the prayer closet. Healers are known for flaunting the secret insights they claim God has given them. Christian musicians turn their personal prayers to God into songs for us all to sing. And then there are all of the untitled masses who are always competing with each other to come up with the best “God said something to me” story. It’s really quite repulsive, the way we’re treating our personal exchanges with God so cheaply. And as long as we’re only interested in God talking so that we can have new material to boast about, we can be sure that He’s never going to invite us to really know Him.

God doesn’t view Himself as our toy. He doesn’t share information with us to entertain us or to help us exalt ourselves in this world. To know God is a priceless privilege, not a right. When we reject this, He begins taking back any knowledge that He shared with us and we drift into ignorance without even realizing what’s happening.

When you’re attempting to relate to the Beings who made you, you are relating to three Beings who consider Themselves to be the most magnificent, fascinating, and desirable Beings in existence. To say that They are “egotistical” is a major understatement. There is no limit to how highly our Gods think of Themselves, and understanding this about Them is critical for anyone who wants to approach Them correctly. We are not dealing with our equals–we are dealing with Beings who infinitely outrank us, and who say that we ought to consider ourselves humbly honored by any invitation to know Them better.

In mainstream Christianity, you simply aren’t going to be taught to treat your Gods with the level of respect that They want. The purpose of our site is to help souls understand what cherishing, honoring, and respecting God means. Cultivating the four soul attitudes that we’re always talking about is vital to you approaching your Creators in a way that They will be receptive to. As we often say, our Gods delight in sharing insights about Themselves with souls who are treasuring Them above all else. But learning about God requires a very different approach than learning about people. With God, we ask our questions, but then we must learn to respectfully wait for Him to bring us answers in His own time. We can’t take an entitled attitude with Him, for there are going to be many questions that He refuses to answer. If we cherish any insights He is willing to share and if we treat those things as the sacred treasures that they are, then He will be pleased to share more with us. But if we treat the knowledge of God as a cheap, expendable thing which we can use to promote ourselves–or if we try to find ways to go around God and unearth secrets about Him without His help, then we will learn the hard way just how foolish it is for specks like us to scoff at the concept of treating our Creators with respect.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 4 Comments [6/1/2017 1:29:29 PM]
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Yes and no. It depends on what you mean by privilege. Much of the kvetching about "white privilege" is just the fact that whites are more successful than blacks and Hispanics. Of course, lefties always ignore Asians. The left attributes this gap in success with "institutional racism" because whites built the country to benefit themselves and their offspring. Of course, when your world view relies on the delusion of believing that races are all exactly the same except skin color, this gap in success makes no sense sans environmental factors. The concept of white privilege in this instance is simply an attempt to explain away group performance without acknowledging different groups' capabilities. This phenomena of different group behavior and group capabilities, and people's respective response to it, is simply slapped together and called" white privilege."
Then there's the more innocuous forms of "white privilege" Peggy McIntosh derails in he work. I simply call this "majority privilege." When she decries Band-Aids being light to match white skin tones or shampoos working better on European hair, essentially what she's doing is decrying the fact that this (the US) is a white country built by whites for whites, and it is still majority white. God forbid the majority group in the country get catered to. As if hair care products in Nigeria wouldn't cater to nappy hair, or that it's even wrong to suggest they shouldn't. Give me a break. So she's half-right in pointing out that whiteness is a dominant force in the country; where we'd all disagree with her is that it's a bad thing. Notice how this kind of kvetching is only aimed at white countries and never other nations comprised of other racial groups. When people complain about this kind of "white privilege," what it's really saying is "You, white people, are not allowed sovereign nations of your own. Give up your nations and become minorities immediately." It's purely anti-white propaganda.


Catharsis, Reddit 7 Comments [6/1/2017 12:27:06 PM]
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