Quote# 130246

Its all BS this story ..I Looked the church up. Just as I thought .The goof ball is a Elca preacher. They caused the kid this problem by coaching him into it.

mr goody two shoes, Christian News Network 5 Comments [8/7/2017 11:28:26 PM]
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Quote# 130235

[On a 1940s Cold War propaganda cartoon]

This is not propaganda. CNN and MSNBC are propaganda. That pink guy stands for almost all leftists. People were more knowledgeable back in the 1950 then they are now!?

Beca Rose, YouTube 12 Comments [8/7/2017 11:27:22 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130233

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Former Lesbian Jackie Hill-Perry Shares How the Holy Spirit Took Ahold of Her Heart"

Former lesbian Jackie Hill-Perry recently shared her incredible story of finding God and breaking free of her life of homosexuality.

In a video shared by Charisma News, Hill-Perry shares that she grew up going to church with her aunt and she knew what Christians were supposed to do and not do, but faith didn’t become real to her till later in life. She also grew up in a broken family and often felt abandoned by her father who wasn’t around a lot and her mother who worked hard to provide for the family.

“I think middle school and high school was me chasing after love from people. I wanted people to tell me that I’m something, that I’m significant, that I’m somebody. And women I think became one of the main sources of that for me,” she shared.

“The things I knew about Scripture, it seemed like they just would not get out of my head. It was just like God is everywhere.”

She at first resisted the Holy Spirit’s conviction, but through God’s working and the guidance of a Christian cousin, she ultimately surrendered her life to Christ.

https://youtu.be/aKZNstmc9Qg

https://youtu.be/s-9X6X5aFKo

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/former-lesbian-jackie-hill-perry-shares-how-the-holy-spirit-took-ahold-of-her-heart.html

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 16 Comments [8/7/2017 11:27:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 130232

The name we use is very dear to us. Mom and dad gave it to us. Everybody calls us by our name. But this name that we are so fond of, is also very dear to the state. The name has been registered with the state through a birth certificate. It is recorded in their vital statistics division. When the state calls us by name, we hear their voice. We respond to our state name.

Our state name is required to enter their schools, for obtaining their licenses, for voting in their elections and for participating in social security. Our state name is used to obtain a high school diploma, a Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science or Master’s degree, and maybe even a Doctorate degree. By continuing to use our state-registered name, we are "cashing in" on the privileges and benefits that the state has bestowed upon the name. The state has been with us from the beginning, opening doors for us, taking care of us. They’ve made a big investment in our education and training. They have such a close relationship with us that they are jealous of any outsiders who might want to help and protect us.

Paul Revere, Embassy of Heaven 20 Comments [8/7/2017 11:27:03 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130231

[Christian sovereign citizens. Joy.]

What helped us begin living in the Kingdom here and now? Well, I would say persecutions contribute considerably to looking for an alternative. We started challenging the existing authorities, the authorities of the world. They called themselves the "State" or the "County" or the "City." They were declaring that we needed to acquire permission from them.

And so we started wondering, "Why do we go to men to get authorization to do things?" Hasn't God already given us duties and responsibilities? Are we not commanded to labor, to build, to travel, to marry? And when we tried to do these activities without permission from the secular forces, we were persecuted. We had property confiscated and we were thrown in jail.

As we progressed through our study, trying to understand our relationship to our fellow man, and to God, all of a sudden it just fell out for us. The Holy Bible, the Good News, the Gospel, is talking about government. And when we were being persecuted, it was by those entities that also call themselves "government."

But it was not God's government. It was governments of men. They would say, "You have to do this" or "You can't do that." And I kept wondering, "How did these men get into a position where they can tell another man what to do?"

As we continued reading the Scripture, we began to see an alarming parallel between the governments of the world and the government of God. We had lost our way in trying to understand the Scriptures because we had been trained up under the governments of the world.

When we read the Holy Scriptures in light of the government of God, we began to realize that our Commander and Leader, the Governor who dictates how we are to behave is right there in the Scripture. When the Bible talks about the Kingdom, especially in the New Testament, it is talking about being obedient to a particular government, the State of Heaven.

We thought, "What if the Scriptures are truly telling us we are a people set apart? What if we are a people of a new realm?" And we found confirmation in the New Testament that we are a peculiar people, a holy nation, born of God. We are citizens of the Kingdom of Heaven. Earth is not our home. (Titus 2:14; 1 Peter 2:9; John 1:13; Philippians 3:20)

At last we were taking the New Testament as a present reality, instead of just some hocus-pocus set of rituals where people get together, but they know not what they worship. They worship in massive brick buildings with stained glass windows, but one vital element is missing. They don't perceive that we are the government of God.

Paul Revere, Embassy of Heaven 13 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:59 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130230

A Pervert Nation
Who is Really Running the World?



Dear Friends,

It has been a most frustrating ordeal to try to understand what happened to us. Why did we lose the Embassy of Heaven Church grounds? What did we do wrong? Today we have received revelation about the true nature of the enemy and we are now at peace.

One of the most powerful myths in this country is that the United States is a Christian nation. Forget about this being a Christian nation. That's a lie. This is a Pervert nation! Perverts are running the world.

How did the perverts take over? Simple. In the United States, no religious test is required to hold office. Article Six of the United States Constitution says, "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

That means any wicked sinner can hold office. If you're a fornicator, or idolater, or adulter, or effeminate, or an abuser of yourself with mankind, or a thief, or covetous, or a drunkard, or a reviler or an extortioner, you can hold office! Unclean persons can fill every office from lowly clerk to chief executive - no religious test required.

A bunch of perverts.Now let's say that I'm a pervert. The kind of pervert that does not obviously hurt his neighbor. Not a murderer or that kind of sinner, but one who scripturally is a pervert. What comes to mind are those known as "queers," "lesbians," or "homosexuals." There's a whole "race" of them out there, gaining in numbers. They are everywhere you look. You see them in the newspapers and out marching in parades. "They declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not" (Isaiah 3:9).

The Scripture is very clear on what is to become of them for their abomination. They shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). The wrath of God is upon them because even though they know that those who commit such things are worthy of death, not only do they continue to do these things, but they also have pleasure in them that do them (Romans 1:32).

Under the law of Moses, homosexuals were to be killed. "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them " (Leviticus 20:13).

In other words, "Rid them from the earth. Don't let them even get a start." The homosexual community has already suffered Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:24-25). Now their offspring are doing the same abominations that caused God to rain down fire and brimstone.

Now if I were a homosexual, I would not want to be reminded of God's judgment against me. I would not want Christians speaking out against me because I want to remain in sin. I will do anything to defend and justify my sin.

One way to cover my sin is to get into positions of authority. As a legislator, I can make laws that protect me from being punished or killed. Since the United States requires no religious test, I can get into office, even though I am a pervert. A person who fills an office does not need to be of high moral standing. He does not have to acknowledge God the Father or His Son Jesus Christ.

Here is my opportunity to put me and my buddies in power. We would fill government offices with perverts of all kinds. According to Webster's dictionary, a pervert is not limited to just a sexual deviant. A pervert is a person who turns from what is considered right, good, or true. A pervert changes or misapplies the meaning of something or brings it into a worse condition. A pervert leads astray and corrupts. This is exactly what we would do.

I would see that my fellow perverts are in key positions in the Executive Branch so that we can have lots of fun without being exposed. We would fill the Legislature and make laws to protect our perverted activities. We would occupy the Judicial Branch to ensure that our lawmaking is upheld. Why would we do it? Because we know what the Word of God says about us and we don't want the Word of God. We would infiltrate all three Branches and cover our sins with power.

What we sinners want to do is protect ourselves. We want to make laws to make our sin legitimate. How would we do it? By filling government offices and changing God's Word. This is our whole function. If we are going to survive in this world, we have to change the truth of God into a lie (Romans 1:25). We have to replace God's Word. We have to make our own laws.

Dead mens bonesNext, we would persuade everyone of the ultimate deception - that this country is a Christian nation. We would "cloak ourselves" with the covering of Christianity. We would clean the outside of the cup, but inside would be dead men's bones. Then we would pull the dirtiest trick of all. We would convince the professing Christians that the Bible says they are to obey the "Law of the Land." They are to obey the laws made by and for the benefit of perverts. They are to obey the "higher authorities," even though they are perverts.

Embassy of Heaven, Embassy of Heaven 17 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:55 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130229

A same-sex couple from St. John's is upset after discovering the jewelry store that sold them their engagement rings has posted a sign that seems to oppose same-sex marriage — but one of the store's owners says he's allowed to post his religious beliefs.

When Nicole White and Pam Renouf went looking for engagement rings a few months ago, the pair couldn't find anything they liked. The couple was eventually referred to Today's Jewellers in the Mount Pearl area because the store offers custom-made rings.

White and Renouf visited the store and later gave specifications and a price range for potential rings.

"They were great to work with. They seemed to have no issues. They knew the two of us were a same-sex couple," White said.

"I referred some of my friends to them, just because I did get some good customer service and they had good prices."

That was before one friend went in to purchase a ring for his girlfriend — and instead found a distressing sign.

It reads: "The sanctity of marriage is under attack. Let's keep marriage between a man and a woman."

'It was really upsetting'

The friend took a picture of the poster, which made its way back to White.

"I had no idea about the sign up until that point," she said.

"It was really upsetting. Really sad, because we already had money down on [the rings], and they're displaying how much they are against gays, and how they think marriage should be between a man and a woman."

The couple went to the store the following day, and asked about the sign.

"They just said that that's their beliefs, and they think they can put up whatever they want. I just said it was very disrespectful, it's very unprofessional and I wanted a refund," White said.

"I have no issues with them believing in what they believe in. I think everyone's entitled to their own opinion. But I don't think they should put their personal beliefs inside their business."

White and Renouf hope to get a refund when the man who sold them the rings returns to town next month — but it's not guaranteed.

White said the rings were meant to be a symbol of love, but now the bands seem tainted.

"I think every time I look at that ring, I'll probably think of what we just went through," White said.

Esau Jardon, the co-owner of Today's Jewellers, said he posts several signs in his store throughout the year.

"I have been posting different aspects of my religious beliefs the last 11 years, and I've never had one single problem with any of my customers," he said.

"It seems to be a Canadian right to post what you believe."

Jardon said the sign in question was posted for Mother's Day, because it had to do with families. They also have pamphlets and cards that they hand out at the store as well.

Jardon said he's an immigrant, and feels blessed to live in Canada.

"One of the reasons my family chose to come to Canada was the freedom of rights," he said, noting the freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

"Nothing in that shop or in these posters is against the law... There's nothing there that means to discriminate or to hate anybody else."

Jardon said he won't apologize for his beliefs.

"I feel really bad that [White] feels that we would in any way try to hurt or discriminate against her, but we will not retract from what we believe. I cannot say, 'Well because you feel bad, I will stop believing what I believe,'" he said.

"When I walk on Church Street in Toronto, where I am right now, and I see [LGBT rainbow flags], and I see a lot of signs and a lot of things on public property, I don't have a problem with them. I accept it. I chose to come to Canada... and we accept the whole package... I don't discriminate against that, nor do I come and tell them to take them down. For the same reason, I ask to have the same respect in return, especially when it's in my own business."

Jardon said he's getting a big backlash from social media.

"I had to shut down the Facebook page because of so many hate emails and phone calls and just, really nasty stuff," he said.

When asked if he would offer a refund to the couple, Jardon said he won't be bullied into apologizing for his beliefs or to work for free.

He said the finished rings are ready to be picked up; White and Renouf just have to pay the balance.

Nicole White and Pam Renouf, CBC 16 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130228

The Sham of Religious Freedom

"Isn't it wonderful that we have 'freedom of religion' here in America?" We've been convinced that "freedom of religion" is a good thing, but it is a sham. My Father in Heaven did not send His Son to die on a cross so I could have "freedom of religion"! He sent His Son to die so I could have His government on earth as it is in Heaven. It was not intended that everyone would be part of His government, only the "called-out ones." The United States, on the other hand, set up a government for everyone, including the Christians.



United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.Freedom of Religion is Number One on the United States Bill of Rights. You can have any beliefs you want. This concept is also reflected in the Treaty of Tripoli, which the United States made with the Barbary Pirates in 1796. Article 11 of the Treaty declares, "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."

The purpose of the Treaty was to make peace with the Barbary Pirates. The pirates said, "We are Muslims. How can a Christian and a Muslim ever be at peace?" The United States replied, "Oh, we're not a Christian nation. Therefore, we can be at peace and make a treaty with you."

In the Treaty of Tripoli, the United States openly declared that the United States was not founded on the Christian religion. Then, to further win the Pirates' favor, they said that the States had never entered into war or an act of hostility against any Muslim nation, and that they had no enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims. Why were they showing such tolerance for the Muslims? Because "freedom of religion" is good for commerce.

Constitutional Framers were Atheists

What were the beliefs of these men who offered us "freedom of religion?" They could not have been Christians. Their constitution does not even mention our Lord Jesus Christ. We, as Christians, are to confess Jesus before men. And whatever we do in word or deed, we do in the name of the Lord, Jesus (Colossians 3:17). God is missing from their Constitution. They founded their government without God.

Surely if the Mohammedans would have undertaken the momentous task of drawing up a constitution, they would have done it in the name of Allah or at least paid their god homage. We can only conclude that the framers of the United States Constitution did not recognize a Supreme Being. They resembled the fool mentioned in Psalm 14:1, who said in his heart, "there is no God."

The framers of the Bill of Rights must have been atheists. They claimed no religion. Therefore, atheists or unbelievers granted you freedom to be a believer. But there is one condition. You must be subservient to them.

What we have is a situation where infidels are granting you the privilege to worship in any manner you choose, as long as they remain god. In fact, anyone who declares freedom of religion is a god and is competing with the Almighty.

There is no "freedom of religion" for a Christian. Jesus Christ gave us His government and His word. We are not free to seek out other gods and other forms of worship. Therefore, "freedom of religion" has no value in our lives. It means nothing. I find it part of antichrist. It is the same deception Rome used 2,000 years ago.

Embassy of Heaven, Embassy of Heaven 14 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:41 PM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130227

(=Authors note: In this comic, the woman is the straw man liberal Christian and the man is completely in the right=)

Woman: Watcha reading ?

Man: Exodus.

Woman: Why do Christians even read the Old Testament ? The God of the Old Testament was so mean and like judgy and strict. Then Jeus came along and made everything about love and peace and happiness and forgiveness and acceptance. I seriously love the New Testament.

Man: Uhhh you might wanna read it a little more closely. But anyways, "The God of the Old Testament" ? And then Jesus came along ? God doesn't change dear.

Woman (afraid): But in the Old Testament God like killed people and stuff! And in the New Testament Jesus seems as sweet as a cupcake...he even let little kids sit on his lap and all that.

Man: God is love and God is also just. God is merciful and God is also a consuming fire. This is clear and true in both the Old and New Testaments. Besides, where do you think Jesus was before the incarnation ? Sitting in the clouds doing crossword puzzles or something ? We're talking about Jesus here. The second person in the eternal trinitarian godhead. The one who is "The Same yesterday today and forever." God the son. God. The son. God doesn't change. Are you following ?

Woman (visibly getting nervous): Wait...so you're saying ?

Man: Mmmmm. Yeah.

Woman (completely mortified): The judgements...the flood...the wars...the plagues...?

Man: Yup.

Woman: SODOM AND GOMORRAH ???

Man: God is God. The father, the son and the Holy Spirit. Notice the son in there. Jesus is God. Now and in the Old Testament. Jesus has always been God.

Woman: How do you know all this ?

Man: "Cupcake Jesus" talks a whole lot about it in the Old Testament that you love.

Woman: This totally ruins the mental image I have of Jesus.

Man: The Bible is good at that.

Adam Ford, Adam4d.com 11 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 130226



?It’s time for John McCain to retire. The 80 year-old Arizona senator was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Any normal man would spend his remaining time with his family. Not McCain. He remains determined to do maximum damage to President Trump and the USA.


McCain is a deep state stooge. He’s an angry poodle on the leash of George Soros. He’s a globalist who is pro-massive immigration, pro-war and pro-trannies in the military. He’s not a war hero no matter how many times that lie is repeated by the fakestream media. Getting shot down and suffering wounds does not make him a hero. “Song Bird” McCain told the North Vietnamese secret info which caused more Americans to die in Vietnam. He wet started his jet on the USS Forrestal as a prank. It started a massive fire that led to the death of 134 sailors. Tomorrow marks the 50th anniversary of that tragedy. McCain had to be helicoptered off the ship because many sailors were calling for his scalp. As a senator, the war-mongering traitor John McCain has enriched himself by wetstarting on America.


McCain is malignant tumor. He has given America a massive headache for way too long.

Ben Garrison, GrrrGraphics 16 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 130225

Atheist Strawman: The Bible promotes Slavery.

Ford's Christian Mouthpiece: No it does not.

Atheist Strawman: The Bible is Anti-Woman.

Ford's Christian Mouthpiece: No it is not.

Atheist Strawman: The Bible is full of contradictions.

Ford's Christians Mouthpiece: Nope, it's not. The Bible is the Word of God and Jesus is the savior of everyone who places their trust in him.

Atheist Strawman: Oh, you're just blindly repeating things you've heard other people say.

Ford's Christian Mouthpiece: I Am?

Adam Ford , Adam4d.com 20 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 130224

Last week, Randy Gamel-Medler, an Oklahoma gay man, filed a federal equal protection lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma against nine defendants from Blaine County, Oklahoma, including Mayor of Hitchcock Rick Edsall, Sheriff of Blaine County Tony Almaguer, and Undersheriff of Blaine County David Robertson. The lawsuit also includes state law claims for assault, battery, destruction of real and personal property, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The complaint details months of police and government inaction in response to racist and homophobic threats and harassment.

"When our family moved to the town of Hitchcock in rural Oklahoma we thought we were buying our last house, we wanted to know our neighbors by their first names and grow old together, but we were soon met with hatred, suspicion, and discrimination,” said plaintiff Randy Gamel-Medler. “We were terrorized, murder threats were made against our seven year-old African-American son. Town officials conspired to run us out of office, all while local law enforcement ignored our pleas for help. We are now left with the last 27 years of our life literally erased. What do we do now?"

Gamel-Medler, a white gay man with a seven year-old African-American son, was first threatened in September 2016 at a town council meeting only one month after moving to Hitchcock, Oklahoma. Upon learning that Gamel-Medler had an African-American son, defendant Meradith Norris, a town of Hitchcock Trustee, asked, “What’s going to happen when your house burns down and we don’t send out the fire trucks?” In response, Gamel-Medler filed a police report, but no criminal action was taken.

"We must not forget that after years of progress, crimes of bias still exist. The allegations in Hitchcock are horrific, and show the intersection of hate aimed at the both the African-American and LGBTQ Communities. Freedom Oklahoma stands with all victims of bias, and will work vigilantly to ensure the state of Oklahoma passes Bias-Crime Protections for all Oklahomans," said Freedom Oklahoma Executive Director Troy Stevenson.

In early May 2017, Gamel-Medler was performing his duties as town clerk by clearing an obstruction from the road when he was assaulted by defendant Jonita Pauls Jacks, who tried to enter Gamel-Medler’s truck and then after realizing it was locked began shaking the truck, called him a “f***ing queer,” and stated, “I’m going to grab your little boy, rip his n***er head off, and sh** down his throat.” When Gamel-Medler attempted to file a police report after this incident, he was informed that the mayor had already described this incident to the police. The Deputy Sheriff refused to take a report, said that this is just how these folks are, and characterized the incident as free speech.

"This abhorrent incident underscores the urgent need for our communities and public officials to commit to combatting the epidemic of hate-based violence that continues to plague too many in the LGBTQ community," said Robin Maril, HRC's Associate Legal Director. "No family should have to fear for their safety because of who they are or whom they love. LGBTQ people in Oklahoma and around the nation need action. We must demand training to ensure that law enforcement officials have the tools they need to partner with LGBTQ community-members and to swiftly respond to hate crimes with sensitivity. Adoption of mandatory reporting requirements for hate-crime statistics coupled with the passage of statewide LGBTQ-inclusive hate crimes and non-discrimination protections are also essential to ending this violence. Our hearts go out to the Medler family during this incredibly difficult time."

Over the next several weeks, the complaint states that one or more of the defendants threw gravel several times at Gamel-Medler’s home, posted a sign outside of the post office stating that “the town clerk is a “f***ing queer,” and attempted to run a friend of Gamel-Medler’s off of the road.

“No family should live in fear or have to endure harassment and threats based on racism and homophobia,” said Shannon Price Minter, legal director at LGBTQ national legal organization NCLR. “We must hold those government officials, members of law enforcement, and others accountable.”

On May 28, the complaint notes that Gamel-Medler heard the sound of glass breaking in his garage and called the Sheriff’s office to report a burglary. He then saw a fire in his garage and called the fire department. Despite the fire department being located one block away from Gamel-Medler’s home, the fire department failed to arrive until the house had burned to the ground. While the house was burning, a number of the named defendants watched it burn, including Mayor of Hitchcock Rick Edsall, who sat and watched with his family in lawn chairs.

"The horrific treatment of this man and his child are a terrible reminder of how hatred and bigotry feed off of each other. I hope this lawsuit will bring justice for him and social awareness for everyone," said the attorney on this case, Mark Hammons of Hammons, Gowens, Hurst, & Associates.

Residents of Hitchcock, OK, Human Rights Council 14 Comments [8/7/2017 11:26:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 130223


(In answer to the question of what evidence there is of God)

.... research the fibonacci sequence

SweetPea, Religion and Ethics 13 Comments [8/7/2017 11:25:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 130222

(On an article regarding the movement to resist and impeach Donald trump.)

REV 19:He (Jesus) treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty....this is no longer speaking of his own blood, but the blood of his enemies....war is inevitable....then, peace will come....come (birds of the air), gather together for the great supper of God, that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small. Solomon's kingdom would never have manifested if it wasn't for the preceding wars of King David, the father.

[Another person calls Alex out for inciting violence.]

I do not advocate violence but there is such a thing as righteous judgement "with justice he wages war". To say that God is only Mercy is wrong. The Lord The Lord God. A compassionate and merciful God. SLOW to anger and abounding in loving kindness and truth; who keeps loving kindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity and transgressions and sins. YET HE WILL BY NO MEANS LET THE GUILTY GO UNPUNISHED....God himself described who he is in these verses. He is not just the LAMB, but also THE LION OF JUDAH.

[Deleted comment.]

Pretty much everything God does, good or bad, he does thru human beings. I cringe when I hear the atrocities of ISIS, but I also believe that they might be in part God's judgement on a world which has shunned him.

[A different person calls Alex on his bloodthirsty BS.]

no one is advocating violence, false accuser and devil. Your pride and arrogance gives you no right to sit on God's throne to judge me or anyone else on this thread. I notice you shoot off your big mouth without addressing the scriptures I put before you in this thread. My point is that, although incredibly long-suffering and patient, God is not Mercy only. He is a righteous king (judge). And just like there is divine Mercy, there is also divine Judgement waiting for those evil-doers who refuse to repent, be washed in the blood and sanctified in the Word. God is not beheading ANYBODY, but his hand of protection can be removed in order that judgement take place.

[Person #2 doesn't back down, demands Alex admit he's advocating violence.]

Don't forget, I called you a devil too. I also said God is not beheading ANYBODY, as the devil (that would be you) falsely accuses me of. But why argue? Let God's Word speak for itself : AND WHEN THEY FORGOT THE LORD THEIR GOD, HE (GOD) SOLD THEM INTO THE LAND OF SISERA AND INTO THE HAND OF THE PHILISTINES AND INTO THE HAND OF MOAB, AND THEY FOUGHT AGAINST THEM. God also sold Israel to Assyria and Babylon for their unrepentence. When we forget God and mock him (as the vast majority of America and the entire world is doing today), when we pile up aborted babies by the tens of millions, when those who are called priests live homosexual lifestyles and abuse children in despicable manner (those would be the priests of the Catholic religion which you follow), when we call good bad and bad good (homosexual marriage), God's hand of protection is removed and we too will be judged and given into the hands of our enemies (ISIS).

[Person #2 and a third person remind Alex that god doesn't make ISIS behead people.]

And you need to learn about repentance and that we are called to such, even as we are washed in the blood of Jesus. Otherwise, you remain a child on milk, never having matured into righteousness. Or do you not know that evil doers will not enter the Kingdom of God? Get YOUR theology straight!



Alex, Charisma News 7 Comments [8/7/2017 11:25:34 PM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan

Quote# 130213

There is probably no single group that has benefited more (legally) from Obama’s presidency than the LGBT community.

He accomplished far more than any other President on gay rights thanks to his two lefty Supreme Court appointments. Jewish legal power was what made Obama change his mind on gay marriage, after he initially opposed it.

Naturally much of the LGBT community in America is alarmed by a new Republican administration. But I wouldn’t expect much to happen different in the future as far as existing rights.

If people are happy being homosexual (sexual orientation isn’t usually a choice, though behavior is) and can’t live as straights I say let them do what they want and not be discriminated against but also let other voices be heard on the issue.

Contrary to what we always hear from the Jew mass media on homosexuality, there is still no evidence that homosexuals are “born that way” or anything such as a “gay gene” exists.

Most gays are people with sexual identity issues stemming from childhood abuse or other experiences. There is an ex-gay Christian movement growing in America and hopefully this can get more attention.

AJ, Real Jew News 14 Comments [8/7/2017 9:34:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130207

In A Heartbeat, declared by millions to be “the cutest thing I’ve ever seen,” is a short animated video about a young boy's middle school ‘crush’ on another boy, currently melting a few million hearts around the world each day.

Posted on Monday, the four-minute video quickly went viral. By Tuesday afternoon, it had garnered 3.7 million ‘views.’ By late afternoon Wednesday, the number of views had doubled to 7.4 million. By Thursday morning, it was headed toward 11 million views.

On the one hand, it’s popularity is no surprise. It’s a totally engaging, masterfully crafted little film, bound to receive many film festival awards. And because there’s no dialogue, it offers global appeal and reach.

Yahoo’s movie reviewer cheered it, saying, “Hopefully, given the response the short film has gotten, major studios will take notice of the fact that LGBTQ stories should be told, and that no matter your sexual identity, people can relate to those first flushes of love.”

The LGBT Human Rights Campaign (HRC) and others are showering it with praise.

Don’t be fooled!

While many inside and outside the gay world may find it heart-warming, resonating with their own inner-awkward-middle-school-boy, there’s a problem with it. A big problem.

In a Heartbeat is getting a whole lot of attention but will do a disservice to those it aims to help. It will further undermine strong, healthy — extraordinarily necessary — male adolescent relationships. Once boys and adolescents are herded toward gayness in order to deal with the very common experience of social anxiety, directed to question their sexual orientation, their sexuality risks becoming ‘re-wired.’ And once 're-wired' in that way, it's hard to undo. I should know. I was one of them.

The big problem:

An official description of the movie tells us, “A closeted boy runs the risk of being outed by his own heart after it pops out of his chest to chase down the boy of his dreams.”

The problem is this: The red-haired boy who is pictured is not a "closeted boy." The animators may think they are portraying such a boy, but they are actually telling a completely different story.

They show us a boy who demonstrates an extremely high level of social anxiety. When we first see him, he appears scared to death. He’s nervous. He’s panting. He experiences heart palpitations. He jumps behind a tree to hide from the second, dark-haired boy, and by so doing demonstrates his debilitating discomfort and inability to relate to his male classmate.

And who is the kid he’s running from, but clearly attracted to? He’s a boy who displays any easy self-confidence — the type that all socially awkward boys envy and would like to be like. He appears unflappable, problem free, in complete control. He’s so cool he can even spin an apple on one finger while walking and reading on the way to school. The fact that the red-haired boy hides behind a tree to avoid him reveals just how unnerving his feeling of not being accepted by his male peers troubles him.

Let’s be clear: Shy boys at that age aren’t searching for romance with their same-sex peers. They want just one thing and they want it desperately: acceptance. At that age, acceptance is more valuable than gold.

‘In a Heartbeat’ is a dangerous distortion.

The red-haired boy is not romantically attracted to the second boy, although that’s what the movie’s creators want you to think. He’s attracted to a boy who is his opposite, self-confident and trouble-free.

The movie’s creators misinterpret their own character: He’s not ‘closeted’ and he’s not "outed" by his own heart.’ He simply experiences a very high degree of social anxiety.

And the answer for this young man is not ‘romance’ with another boy. The answer is acceptance — to develop and persevere in friendship, and in that to find acceptance. Romance between males is a mirage, always proving to be elusive.

The movie promotes escaping social anxiety disorder by “coming out” and being “gay.” But this is an escape from the disorder, not a means of healing it in order to become whole and healthy as a person.

Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons, an expert on marital and child healing, told LifeSiteNews that the movie is “psychologically harmful to youth — not helpful to kids experiencing social anxiety disorder.”

Yet it is precisely those kids the movie is aimed at, and they are the ones put at risk by the narrative it promotes.

According to Dr. Fitzgibbons’ ChildHealing.com website, “Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD) is the most prevalent of all anxiety disorders. A 2011 study of 10,000 American adolescents revealed that anxiety disorders were the most common disorder in youth, occurring in approximately one-third of adolescents.”

“SAD is a marked and persistent fear in social situations characterized by pervasive social inhibition, timidity, lack of confidence and fear. It has an early age of onset, by age 11 years in about 50 percent and by age 20 years in about 80 percent of individuals.”

Most important, “Research has shown that youth suicide risk decreases by delaying self-identifying as a homosexual. One study demonstrated that suicide risk among youth with same-sex attractions decreases 20 percent each year they delay labeling themselves as gay.”

Homosexuality: A thoroughly unsatisfying dead end for young males

Quentin Crisp, in his novel The Naked Civil Servant, identified the conundrum facing gay men: “If the Great Dark Man met me, he would not love me. If he did love me, he could not be my Great Dark Man.” In other words, Crisp is saying: “If I found the man of my dreams” — as the boy in the ‘Heartbeat’ video seems to — “no matter how attractive, masculine and virile; if he were interested in me either sexually or romantically or both, he could no longer be the man of my dreams because he would no longer be 100 percent ‘straight.’ There would be a huge chink in his armor, and he would disappoint me.” One senses the snickering of Satan somewhere in the wings behind the hopeless, discouragement-fraught dreams of many gay men. No wonder so many become depressed. This is also why same-sex marriage will evaporate over time.

Michael Glatze, now a Christian pastor and subject of the movie, I Am Michael, was a practicing homosexual and gay activist until he experienced conversion to Jesus Christ. In 2013, he married his wife. In an open letter to Ricky Martin after Martin came out, Glatze wrote, “Homosexuality is a cage in which you are trapped in an endless cycle of constantly wanting more — sexually — that you can never actually receive, constantly full of emptiness, trying to justify your twisted actions by politics and ‘feel good’ language.”

He also told his own former “lover": “God loves you more than any dude will ever love you. ... Don’t put your faith in some man, some flesh. That’s what we do when we’re stuck in the gay identity, when we’re stuck in that cave. We go from guy to guy, looking for someone to love us and make us feel OK, but God is so much better than all the other masters out there.”

The world today, influenced heavily by the LGBT community and an undiscerning media, undermines close relationships between adolescent males, causing them to question their romantic and sexual orientation. This is precisely what this video sets out to do and is why it is so dangerous.

Can’t a kid just really like another kid without it being interpreted as either romantic or sexual? ALL boys want close friendships with other boys. It’s a basic human need.

Doug Mainwaring, LifeSiteNews 16 Comments [8/7/2017 3:36:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130206

I lived in downtown Manhattan for a number of years. I knew a great many homosexuals, far more than 99.99% of the population will ever meet unless they are one. And I knew many of them as people, human beings, not some “other” to fear or despise.

And because I was innocent and curious at the time, I asked many of them flat-out why they were homosexual. And I got these answers constantly:

- they experienced sexual abuse themselves;
- their fathers were almost always absent, and where they weren’t they were either distant or abusive;
- mothers who psychologically dominated them, very often single man-hating feminist mothers who hated masculinity in general and took out that hate on their helpless male children

You hear the same story from so many people with so many details, you come to understand that these things don’t happen by accident. They are caused by the parents EVERY time.

thoughtomator, Free Republic 24 Comments [8/7/2017 3:36:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130205

It is narcissistic hyper-eroticism; there is no objective, functional form of sexuality between two members of the same sex.

You can shove two male or two female plugs together as long and hard as you like; no AC electrical current will flow.

I believe we must go back to the beginning and take back the English language from subversive collectivists.

In both vocation and avocation, I have been in close association with many homoerotic males over the past 20+ years. I find that their aberrant vulgarity is not only tolerated but celebrated - especially by heterosexual women, who think they are adorable.

No heterosexual male would be allowed to say and do some of the things I have witnessed by such persons in public, ostensibly professional, surroundings.

They have taught me to find them disturbing. As a Christian, I used to strive to treat them with compassion and, as warranted, with charity. Now I really do not want to be near them.

YogicCowboy, Free Republic 23 Comments [8/7/2017 3:36:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130204

I have talked to people who lived around “transgenders” and some of the stories are quite scary. I actually got this in a E-mail a year or two ago when the tranny in the military debate first started.

Excerpt Begins:

” One time me and my friend ( who is a transgender male to female ) was at a store and we were browsing around when a little old lady came up behind my friend to ask them to help get something off a high shelf. and I am paraphrasing here: “Excuse me sir, could you help me with getting ( i forget what the item was ) off that shelf?”

Well my friend flew the complete “hell off the handle” as they whipped around and went on a five minute tirade saying things like “Do I look like a man?” and “Are you f**ing blind?” in a very aggressive manner. The poor old lady looked stunned as she was just innocently asking someone for help only to be verbally lashed out at by this “woman” that if she had any doubt about gender she knew for sure at this point that is was a man in a dress due to the aggressive nature of the lashing out she was receiving.

I remember standing there stunned as if just witnessing a Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde moment. I remember thinking that if only my friend had just turned around and used some damned charm instead of flying off the handle and trying to FORCE their idea of how they should be referred to a kindly old lady. An old lady who just wanted something off a shelf and wasn’t consciously or maliciously thinking about the gender expression of the person she was asking.

After that day I took steps to slowly distance myself from that person so that I didn’t “dump them” but instead just lost contact with them via attrition. I didn’t want to wake that horrible dragon up that I saw that day in the store on accusations that I stopped being their friend because they were “trans” instead the real reason was because I saw how unhinged they could be for the dumbest and most innocent of reasons. It was like if anyone “appeared” to question their own self validation, even if it was an innocent mistake, they could fly off the handle. This wasn’t like someone with a short emotional fuse, but instead someone with a volatile emotional hair trigger.

A couple of months after the “incident” in the store I was talking to my cousin who is a tall woman who lives in the country and I told her the story. She laughed after I told her about it and i asked her why she laughed. She told me that sometimes after she does her chores on the farm she sometimes stops in at the local Wal-Mart to either pickup fixins for supper or things like motor oil for her husband. She said her chore clothes are overalls and she packs her hair into a hat to keep it clean, and that one day a little old lady came up to her from behind while she was in the store and asked “SIR” for some help getting something off a high shelf. She turned around and the little old lady apologized saying something like: “Oh I’m sorry ma’am”. She said she just smiled at the old lady and said “oh, don’t worry, it happens all the time because I am tall” and they both had a good laugh about it and went their separate ways after she had retrieved the item for the sweet old lady. After she told me this I thought how different that embarrassing experience could have been had she handled it like a genuine person would have.

I have talked to other people who have been acquainted to “trans” people and the one common thing that I have discovered is that if you ask enough people they all have stories of trans people flying off the handle when someone else innocently “mis-genders” them. People wonder why I consider trans people in the military such a bad idea. I just have tell them this story and how what would happen if a foxhole if someone under fire accidentally “mis-genders” their fellow soldier. Talk about an “un-friendly fire” situation... I mean i consider myself a progressive, but this incident I personally experienced and further collaborated similar incidents with other people who I would consider progressive as well leads me to think that there is a serious risk of having someone with a such an issue in any sort of military situation. I have to say “NO” to allowing transgender people in the military, they need to get their lives sorted out first and foremost and the military is not a place for them to be doing that.

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So yeah, this is from someone I know who is a “progressive liberal” who agrees with Trump on this issue, even though I am 100% sure they didn’t vote for Trump. I think just the whole idea of someone flying off the handle even if someone inadvertently calls them with a gender pronoun they don’t agree with is really scary, especially in the military.

GraceG, Free Republic 12 Comments [8/7/2017 3:36:37 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130201

Scientists have, for the first time, successfully freed embryos of a piece of faulty DNA that causes deadly heart disease to run in families.

It potentially opens the door to preventing 10,000 disorders that are passed down the generations.

The US and South Korean team allowed the embryos to develop for five days before stopping the experiment.

The study hints at the future of medicine, but also provokes deep questions about what is morally right.

Science is going through a golden age in editing DNA thanks to a new technology called Crispr, named breakthrough of the year in just 2015.

Its applications in medicine are vast and include the idea of wiping out genetic faults that cause diseases from cystic fibrosis to breast cancer.

[...]

Darren Griffin, a professor of genetics at the University of Kent, said: "Perhaps the biggest question, and probably the one that will be debated the most, is whether we should be physically altering the genes of an IVF embryo at all.

"This is not a straightforward question... equally, the debate on how morally acceptable it is not to act when we have the technology to prevent these life-threatening diseases must also come into play."

The study has already been condemned by Dr David King, from the campaign group Human Genetics Alert, which described the research as "irresponsible" and a "race for first genetically modified baby".

David King, BBC News 23 Comments [8/7/2017 2:16:06 AM]
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Quote# 130200

A 10-year-old girl who is pregnant and has been refused an abortion is at the centre of a media storm in India. The BBC's Geeta Pandey travelled to the northern city of Chandigarh to piece together her story.

[...]

But on 28 July, India's Supreme Court rejected a petition - filed on her behalf - to allow her to abort, on the grounds that at 32 weeks, she is too far into her pregnancy. A doctors' panel had advised the court that a termination at this stage would be "too risky" for the girl, and that the foetus was "doing well".

The court order was a huge disappointment for the girl's family.

[...]

Medical tests so far show that her health is "good" though she suffers from "mild anaemia".

But there are other concerns. The girl was born with a hole in her heart, which was plugged in 2013. Although doctors say it's unlikely to interfere with her pregnancy, the fact remains that she is way too young to give birth.

Every year, 45,000 adult women die during childbirth in India. The risk of pregnant girls under the age of 15 years dying is two-and-a-half times higher than that for women above 20. Doctors say the risk is even higher for someone who is only 10.

It's a concern the Supreme Court took on board, but the judges still ruled that the pregnancy could continue.

Supreme Court of India, BBC News 20 Comments [8/7/2017 2:16:01 AM]
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Quote# 130199

Moderate Muslims don't commit terror, but applaud the radical Muslims who kill. A top imam said there is no such thing as radical Islam; it's just Islam. Expel them all.

George Strong, Hollywood Reporter 11 Comments [8/7/2017 2:15:57 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Into the Unknown

Quote# 130198

How did I get summoned to this conversation? Lol. I had never heard of this quote before, but the "analogy" of intercourse was very commonly used throughout scripture to describe our spiritual oneness with The Godhead. One of my favorite applications of this is John 8:32, "you shall KNOW the Truth, and the Truth will make you free." Yahushua refers to Himself as "the Truth", and then says you must "know" the Truth. Know is a word that literally means intercourse in the Greek language it was intitially written in. So, yes I find this quote beautiful and accurrate. If we are not to be one in (spiritual) intercourse with our Lord, why would He refer to us as his bride? No marriage is consummated without intercourse, and like any husband, YAHUSHUA wants to make love to His Bride!

Dr. Intimacy (Laneen Haniah), FSTDT 14 Comments [8/7/2017 2:15:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 130197

"The Honest Athiest"

Atheist: Humankind is a nothing but a freak chance happening. You...Me...Everyone. We're just a huge cosmic accident defying all laws of reason and probability. We shouldn't even be here. Nothing exists beyond our natural world. Morality cannot technically exist. Or love. Or reason. Or laws. Of beauty or purpose. We're just organic robots programed by nature for survival. We have no more inherent values than an ant, or a blade of grass or a speck of dust. And soon we will all be dead and eventually the sun will devour the earth. And none of our lives will have mattered for anything. That's what I beleive...but I will continue to live every minute of my life as if none of those things are true.

Adam Ford, Adam4d.com 26 Comments [8/7/2017 2:11:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Worst Religion Ever Award

Quote# 130191

Saint Elliot the Innocent:

O guiltless saint that dwells in skies above,
That watches us from on the golden cloud,

We give you thanks for your sweet splendent love,
Magnificent, you make us all so proud.

Defender of supreme chaste gentlemen,
You struck the whores and fought the slutty chicks,

Our sacrificial lamb who stormed the school at ten,
And gave his life to spare us from those six.

Incel4Life, r/IncelSafeHaven 26 Comments [8/6/2017 12:00:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie