Quote# 130816

Moral isn't some sort of metaphysical absolute that never changes. Something is good simply because God says so.

We've discussed the issue here recently with the laws against incest. Adam and Eve's kids, Abraham and Sarah committed what God later told Moses was incest. But it became immoral only when God said it was wrong.

Also the Canaanite genocide. God said killing a child for the sins of the father is wrong, so it's wrong. In the specific case of the Canaanite genocide God told His people to kill small children, so in that specific instance killing a child for the sins of the father became good.

Something is good or bad because God say it is good or bad. There isn't any standard of morality that stands independent of God.

TimV, Puritan Board 15 Comments [8/21/2017 5:57:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130815

Morality requires something that says we "ought" to do this or "ought not" to do that. This "oughtness" cannot be derived from something impersonal, like the impersonal machinations of the universe, for no impersonal structure can create obligation. Obligatory moral standards presuppose absolute moral standards, which in turn presuppose an absolute moral personality, that is, God Almighty.

Truly objective moral values require something personal that defines what is good and what is not good and necessarily implies an accountability to one's actions. Moral accountability, if there is no God, merely implies morality become vain, since our fate is irrelevant to moral behavior.

Now the non-believer will counter that the theist believes either something is good because God wills it or else God wills something because it is good. They will then claim that the first alternative is unacceptable, since it makes what is good or evil an arbitrary distinction, and the second alternative implies that the good is independent of God. Hence, they will claim moral values cannot depend on God, but instead something outside of God.

Actually this is a false dilemma. God wills something because He is good. God’s nature determines what is good, hence the good is not independent of God, and His nature necessarily expresses itself toward us in the form of His commandments such that they are not arbitrary.

Ask Mr. Religion, Puritan Board 9 Comments [8/21/2017 5:53:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130814

On August 10, 2005, my classmate's husband suffered severe burns from a gasoline fire. More than 90 percent of his body was burned.

When he was taken to the Jixi City People's Hospital, he was in excruciating pain. He was taken to a separate ward and only his wife was allowed to see him initially.

I accompanied his family to the doctor's office to consult about his condition and medical treatment. I asked the doctor, “How much is needed to cure him?”

The doctor looked at me and responded, “How much? It's not an issue of money, but whether he will even survive. In my experience, within seven days someone with his injuries will show symptoms of dehydration, renal failure, and systemic organ failure that will lead to death. The family should be prepared.”

His family was heavy-hearted upon hearing these words.

I went back to the ward and saw him moaning in pain while receiving electrotherapy. I told him straight out, “If you can follow my words, I can guarantee your recovery. I have a special prescription.”

He saw a line of hope and said, “If you could make me better, I will do whatever you ask.”

I said, “Are you a CCP (Chinese Communist Party) member?”

He replied, “No.”

I then asked, "When you were younger, did you join the Communist Youth League and the Young Pioneers?"

He said, "Yes, I am a member of the Youth League and Young Pioneers."

I talked to him about quitting those organizations. “As Heaven is going to annihilate the CCP, you will stay safe if you quit the CCP, the Youth League and Young Pioneers. Let me help you quit them.”

He understood and responded positively. “Isn't this what Falun Gong talks about? I've watched their DVD and read their pamphlets. Falun Gong was wronged. I know that Falun Gong is good. Just help me quit those CCP-affiliated organizations.”

“I will help you quit these organizations,” I said. “As of now, you've quit the Communist Youth League and Young Pioneers. There are spiritual beings three feet above one's head, so you will be well protected from now on. Next, let's start reciting these nine words, 'Falun Dafa is good. Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.' It works only when you say them sincerely.”

He exclaimed, “Great, Falun Dafa is good!”

“You do not need say them out loud. It's alright to say them in your heart. Never think of your illness, but focus on reciting 'Falun Dafa is good' and you will see miracles.”

He promised to follow my words immediately. I purchased a video player for him so that he could listen to Dafa music – “Pudu” and “Jishi.” I often went to see him in the hospital. Every time I visited I heard him murmuring “Falun Dafa is good.”

One time he told me that he saw a crowd of small figures busy doing something on his body that made him feel very comfortable. He listened to Pudu and Jishi whenever he was in pain. As time passed, his condition stabilized and he began to improve. Meanwhile, he received intravenous infusions every day.

The doctor was surprised to observe his quick recovery. He said “It's a miracle that you are still alive! It'd be quite normal for you to have passed away by now. Since this hospital was established, we've never seen a patient survive who was burned over 90 percent of his body.”

To my regret, we didn't tell the doctor the facts about Falun Gong. It's Falun Gong that saved him.

More than two months later, he had recovered completely and was able to go home. There was no major scarring of his face or body – he looked as normal as anyone. As his wife, son and parents witnessed this miracle unfold, they all believed in Falun Gong and also quit the CCP and its affiliated organizations.

Zhiqing, Minghui 5 Comments [8/21/2017 5:52:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130808

The normie program for bullying incels at every stage of life

age 5-10: Bully incels for being ugly, laugh, point, call them names, shove them into the dirt, etc. Do everything you can to get the incel to become a withdrawn, weird kid.

age 11-14: Pull fun 'pranks' like fooling an incel into believing a chick likes him and then shattering his ego in public. Slap books out of his hand, give him swirlies, etc. Gang up and tell lies about him so he gets in trouble with adults. Hopefully the incel winds up with PTSD, a sever stutter, or other fun things.

age 16-22: Exclude the incel from every formative experience there is, from parties to dating to simple socializing. Do this because he is awkward and weird and lacks social skills (due to you and yours bullying and isolating him for his entire life). If you are forced to interact with him, make sure you are rude and unpleasant towards him, because he is bothering you (by existing). Conveniently forget everything you have ever done to anyone like him in the past. You are a normie - a good person.

age 23+: get bored of not bullying incels. Find out where they post online, barge in on them, or create communities devoted to mocking them. Make a few troll accounts to show how they have "extreme" beliefs so you can justify your attacks on them. If an incel ever complains about anything, tell him it is his fault for being awkward, weird, lacking social skills, and for being full of anger and misogyny. Why would he be angry after all? It's not like you bullied, excluded, ridiculed, beat him up, etc for most of his life. You are a normie. A good person.

Cruelcel, /r/incels 15 Comments [8/21/2017 1:32:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 130807

(jenveux)
Great quote from Elliot Rodger himself

"There is no joy in the life of an incel. We can't get pleasure out of anything, because every activity we do we'll just think about how other men are doing it with their girlfriends. Incels can't even go out without feeling miserable, because if we go out there will always be a couple walking around that we'll be envious of."

"Living the incel life is like being sentenced to life in prison, with daily tortue sessions."

(goatorgoatneet)
Noble soul.

(PectusCel)
His entire manifesto is great tbh

(jenveux)
It was a really awesome read

(BlackPill47)
Praise His name...

(UpLmaosToTheLeft)
wow. can you link me to where he says this. what an interesting character

(shortbaldaspiekv)
I arrived at the house one day, my mother being at work, and heard the sounds of Samuel plunging his penis into my sister’s vagina through her closed room door, along with my sister’s moans. I stood there and listened to it all. So my sister, who was four years younger than me, managed to lose her virginity before I did. It reminded me of how pathetic I was, that at the age of twenty-two, I was still a virgin.

(ZebediahKillgraveSpy)
RIP in peace

(Cruelcel ("Hate is the only thing keeping me alive"))
He was too good for this gay world.

(alexjonesisaprophet)
O St. Elliot thou art my shepherd

(multifunctionaudio)
O St. Blackops2cel, thou art my shepard. Thou leadest me beside still waters and green pastures. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil. Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Thou anointest my head with oil, my cup runneth over. I will dwell in the house of St. Blackops2cel for ever.

Elliot Rodger; various incels, /r/incels 12 Comments [8/21/2017 1:32:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 130806

Before we know it the #ViolentLeft will ban the names "Robert" and "Lee".

#Antifa and #BLM will punch anyone with those names.

Corey Stewart, Twitter  11 Comments [8/21/2017 1:32:37 AM]
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Quote# 130805

Let's think why we can defend pedophilia:
1. It is not forbidden in the Bible, but encouraged.
2. It is proven a lot of people are made better because of it. The kids get pleasure and the pedos get satisfied.
3. The actual act would cause orgasms which probably are quite pleasurable. I've heard the younger you are, the more good you feel.
4. Some kids who have low self esteem would no longer because when someone tries to do something sexual to you, it proves they find you attractive.
5. A LOT of nations accept it or at least forms of it. Haiti, Japan, Mexico, Afghanistan, India, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, South Africa, etc. They must know something you don't.
6. Pedophilia does not cause STDS. If it did, then absolutely hate it with a passion.
7. People who defend perverted behaviour like homosexuality are hypocrites. Homos may be born that way, but pedos are without any doubt. Not to mention homos are notorious about defending what they do, and the ways they have sex cause a great, great risk for nasty STDS.
This is just my opinion, and if it offends you tough.

TontonMacoute, DeviantArt 15 Comments [8/21/2017 1:32:31 AM]
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Submitted By: menomaru

Quote# 130802

The Right: "I wish the Left would just shut up and go away."

The Left: "I wish the Right would die."

Who are the violent ones again?

Todd Layman, Twitter 18 Comments [8/21/2017 1:31:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 130792

[From "The Case for Running Over Protesters Who Block Highways"]

Your morning commute is bad enough as it is: groggy-eyed, gridlock traffic, and a full day of work looming above you like your dickhead boss likes to do. But for some reason, today, the bumper-to-bumper pace of cars seems particularly…slow.

You crane your head out the window, strain your eyes into the horizon of automotive metal, and—WHAT THE FUCK!!? Just poking above the rows of cars, lined up side-by-side, are…people—standing—blocking traffic to a complete stand-still.

Morning Commuter, Meet #BlackLivesMatter:

Nothing epitomizes the irony of the modern American “activist/protester” like the juxtaposition between these privileged college kids “fighting for justice” and the hard-working adults busting their asses trying to get to work to feed their kids.

Years of being pampered and spoiled by their parents have taught these idealistic morons 2 things: 1) that they’re invincible, and 2) that the world revolves around them.

This level of self-centered narcissism masquerading as “altruistic” concern for #BlackLives or #MikeBrown or whatever dumb-fuckin-hashtag is created next to give these purposeless youths some kind of direction—these pitiful shitheads claim to be considerate of others while engaging in the most inconsiderate, obnoxious, fly-buzzing-in-your-ear-annoying behavior you could imagine.

[...]

It was another day of work for Tyree, a middle-aged black man from California who was driving to his job at Ross. But along the way, he found himself at a complete stand-still as a group of protesters lined up across the highway and blocked traffic.

They were with #BlackLivesMatter, a cult of black supremacists who pretend to be victims of some obscure, mostly non-existent thing they call “white supremacy” in order to covertly push their racist agenda. But Tyree Landrum wasn’t having it.

In a courageous act that likely got him labeled a “coon” or “Uncle Tom” by his more ignorant counterparts, Tyree stepped out of his car, rushed up to the protesters, and got all up in their faces.

[...]

Unsurprisingly, Tyree’s forceful pleas were met with pretty much nothing more than looks of bewilderment from the protesters who, in a semi-delusional haze, simply stared at him as if his words were valid, yet did not matter—the hallmark of privileged Millennial “activists” (“Sure, what you said is true, but what about my feelings?”)

#BlackLivesMatterButFactsDoNot

And so it is with great urgency that I coin a new term in this age of delusionally-dangerous liberal “activism”: “Highway-Terrorists.”

Highway-Terrorist:

/'hi?wa 'ter?r?st/

[noun]:

“a delusional individual who shuts down highways or other critical transportation infrastructure to promote a dubious and/or fallacious cause that results in the endangerment of innocent people.”

Now, upon first look, using the word “terrorist” to describe these naive college students/activists may seem extreme, but a closer examination reveals the inherent, widespread danger these highway protests pose to thousands—even tens of thousands—of innocent people.

The Dangers of Highway-Terrorism

1. Unemployment–>Poverty–>Starvation–>Death

We need only look at the aforementioned case of Tyree Landrum to realize the vast economic damage that highway-terrorists can inflict upon local communities.

[...]

2. Disrupting Paramedic/Firefighter Rescue Efforts

Highways are designed to ensure the flow of traffic at higher speeds than regular streets, which is one reason paramedics and firefighters will often utilize these routes when responding to emergencies.

However, when highway-terrorists block freeways, ambulances are faced with an unnecessary life or death delay. In the world of EMTs and rescue operations, every second counts.

[...]

3. Women Giving Birth

It is not uncommon for women to go through labor—or straight-up give birth—while in a car and being driven (or driving) to the hospital.

[...]

The Case For Running Over Highway-Terrorists

And so we come to it: the big question: are innocent motorists morally justified in running over highway-terrorists?

Fundamentally, the justification for such an act comes down to the simple principle of self-defense: when you are being aggressed against by violent, barbaric people who may very well take your life or that of another person, are you justified in fighting back?

Well, unless you like victim-blaming, the answer should be an obvious “yes”.

So, we’ve established that you have a right to defend yourself against aggressors, now the next question is: are highway-terrorists “aggressors”?

Well, the three aforementioned points describing how deliberately delaying traffic can lead to injuries/loss of life for countless innocent people should answer the question: OF COURSE highway-terrorists are aggressors: they are deliberately choosing to engage in behavior that can lead to innocent lives being lost or harmed. Do not let the big posters and synchronized chants for “justice” distract you from the vicious, underlying reality: these people are terrorists who orchestrate elaborate, coordinated, premeditated strikes that have quite a high chance of injuring or killing innocent people.

So let’s follow the logic: you have a right to defend yourself against aggressors. Highway-terrorists are aggressors. Thus, you have a right to defend yourself against highway-terrorists.

But now, what exactly constitutes “self-defense” in this case? The most obvious suggestion would be putting the pedal to the metal and plowing your 2-ton vehicle right into the dead center of those naive (yet dangerous) “activists”, shattering their idealistic (yet dangerous) fantasies in the span of a few tire revolutions.

Kind of like this:


Now, this of course is a very EXTREME thing to do, something which would only be justified in the most EXTREME situations. You need to use discretion: the degree to which you exert self-defense should, to a degree, be proportional to the aggression inflicted upon you by a highway-terrorist. I don’t believe doing what you saw in the above GIF is pretty much ever justified, unless, for example, you’re a pregnant woman who gave birth in your car and your baby needs immediate medical attention in order to survive. Now, if you’re thinking, “but how is it justified to run over and potentially kill 5 highway-terrorists just to save 1 newborn life?” Well, this is what I call the “self-defense inflation tax.” It basically means that, when defending yourself, you are justified in inflicting approximately 3 times as much damage as the initial aggression inflicted upon you. These are just added costs for being the one who started it, and it’s completely sensible.

So yes, in the most extreme situations, like trying to get your newborn to the hospital, I believe plowing through highway-terrorists is completely justified.

[...]

Conclusion

In all, I conclude that, at the least, every single motorist is morally justified in slowly driving their cars forward—first as a warning to highway-terrorists, then gradually increasing the speed, gently nudging them out of the way.

If any of the more extremist ones choose to increase their aggression by hanging on to the car, punching your window, or kicking your door, you are thus now justified in increasing your self-defense, maybe with some more speed, or a sudden swerve to shake off the moron hanging on to your side-view mirror.

Ultimately, dealing with highway-terrorists is a very serious matter, one which requires your discretion based on your personal situation. There is no one-size-fits-all approach. Happy Travels!

Chris Delamo, Red Pill Philosophy 16 Comments [8/20/2017 12:12:38 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 130790


"In a Heartbeat" is a new animated short film that's making its way across the internet presently. I watched it for the first time this morning and was actually really moved by the project. It depicts two boys, probably middle school age; one is being "outed by his heart" for the other. The conclusion is their realization that they share similar feelings for one another, despite what onlookers may be feeling towards such feelings.
I was struck as I watched the film because of how the heart of the first character is pulling him throughout the entire film. This is what God warns about countless times in scripture. Our hearts are "deceitful above all things, and desperately sick" (Jeremiah 17:9). Left unrestrained by the gospel and His saving work in us, our hearts will always lead us into sin.
Each and every person is born with a heart that is hard and cold to God. We are born with a bent towards sin and in opposition to God. Believers refer to this as a 'sin nature.' It's why we must be born again. We need a heart transplant that enables us to love God before ourselves and to daily choose to obey Him and not whatever whim our heart attempts to drag us towards.
This life is full of things that promise us happiness: money, relationships, popularity, and a number of other idols. True joy and peace comes only from knowing Jesus as Lord, and with that comes a new life where Jesus, not our sinful hearts, calls the shots. If we're being led by our hearts and not His Spirit, we can expect only heartache and emptiness in this life but much worse than that, we can expect the righteous wrath of God who will not overlook sin (Acts 17:30).
To be of this world and it's ways- drunkenness, sexual immorality (opposite sex couple who are unmarried or same sex couples), idolatry, etc- is to make oneself an enemy of the God who hates the wicked (Psalm 5:5). Forsake your sins while you are able and turn to Jesus for life and forgiveness. He can make even the vilest offender new. How shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation (Hebrews 2:3)?

Emily Thomes, Facebook  13 Comments [8/20/2017 12:12:23 PM]
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Quote# 130789

Crucial to the ideological notion of ‘rape’ is the concept of consent. Rape is sexual act of a man against a woman - it is conceived by the bourgeois legal apparatus to be an act of heterosexual intercourse without the consent of the woman…Its criminal nature centers on this question of consent. Thus the law, based on the ideological construct of equality and thus 'free choice’ makes a sharp distinction between heterosexual intercourse which is freely consensual and that which isn’t, the latter legally constituting rape.

It would seem to be obvious at this point that one effect of the ideological function of 'rape’ is to obscure sexual relations between men and women. To make a qualitative distinction between rape and consensual heterosexuality on the basis of such a profoundly ideological concept as bourgeois equality, is not only to indulge in political naivete but to avoid an analysis of sexuality as a whole. It is to avoid what is essential to an understanding of rape - a scientific analysis of the way in which capitalism organizes sexuality.

—Rosalind Innes, Rape Ideology and the Maintenance of Women’s Oppression, June 1977

Rosalind Innes, Tumblr 15 Comments [8/20/2017 12:12:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 130781

Brother Nathanael, you just might be my good luck charm.

I’m not 100% positive but it seems like something is going on. After I send you a donation something good drops out of the sky into my lap within several weeks.

It may be my imagination or just a coincidence but isn’t there a passage in the Bible that says the Lord helps those who help the Lord or even a poor monk that represents the Lord..

I’ve always liked Christian monks including the ones from the Middle Ages. I’ve been fortunate to own several illuminated manuscript leaves but sold them a long time ago.

Looking at these leaves that are 800 years old with the fine detail is like a spiritual experience. I can understand why some people collect them and are willing to pay a lot.

I’ll send you a donation within a week and I suggest those that read this post abstain from fast food restaurants and ice cream and beer for several days and instead send a donation.

Seek The Truth, Real Jew News 8 Comments [8/20/2017 4:52:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130772

(Charlottesville rally organizer calls Heather Heyer’s death ‘payback’)

I wouldn't say payback. However, you had three groups: Black Lives Matters, Antifa, and White Supremacists. A member of one of those three died. Hard not to admit that nothing of value was lost. I know that's cold, but after seeing the destruction Antifa and BLM have caused, seeing the people that they have assaulted, let's not kid ourselves for one moment and admit that a member of a violent organization died. Not a hero, but a terrorist.

GreatJanitor, Reddit 14 Comments [8/20/2017 4:37:04 AM]
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Quote# 130771

In 2003, in a supernatural incarnation, the Lord Jesus appeared to me in the flesh behind the locked doors of my house. I am an eyewitness to his majesty. My eyes have beheld our creator.

With one look of profound love he ravished my heart; immediately I understood that the sacrifice was for me, so that I would never have to pay the price I owed to society and to God for the evil I had done.
I buried my face in the ground in deep remorse begging for forgiveness.
Flooded with the breath of God, the room lit up like I was a bolt of lightning. Filled with his spirit, I was on the threshold of heaven.

I'm not here to tell you about me. I'm here to tell you about him.... because he's very real, and your soul is on the line. Repent - it's the best thing you'll ever do for yourself!

ALL HAIL JESUS, Yahoo Answers 10 Comments [8/20/2017 4:37:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 130770

SILENCE = SEX

“The New Equation”
by Jordan Arseneault

It’s that awkward moment when…
You’re naked in bed with a boy you’ve just made out with on a rooftop.
Looking up at the little toy cross
On top of the big, dark mountain.

That awkward moment where you bring in the Greek chorus
Of Angels in America characters
And the dump truck of dead bodies and
News segments of ashes actions
And Diamanda Galas howling over Fire in My Belly.

That awkward moment when you decide to cough it up
To rip the band-aid off the unhealed wound
And tell him:

I just need to tell you something that’s really not easy to say and
I’m legally required to tell you before we take this any further:

I have been shortlisted for a very special prize.
I am on the shortlist for those who didn’t win the bet.
I am biopolitically pegged for a lifetime of awkward moments.

There’s 50 parts per millilitre of me
That are Having It Very
difficult; that are too late for a vaccine,
That didn’t do their due diligence
And that echo a Harsh Interior Voice
Saying “stay away,”
Even though any other combination of bodies in a moment like this
Would just be getting it on right now.

It’s that awkward moment where you look up at the
SILENCE = DEATH poster
On his cluttered bedroom wall
And say the words
I AM HIV POSITIVE
Only to see him freeze, lose his boner, sigh,
And explain trippingly that he has an anxiety disorder
And “just can’t take it right now.”

It’s that awkward moment when you want to rip a hypocritical poster
off someone’s wall
Or at least half of it:
SILENCE = riiippppppp crumple crumple
SILENCE =
SILENCE = SEX
All those posters say THAT to me now:
Silence equals sex.

If you just keep your mouth shut
And don’t talk about cells and replication and undetectability
And minor cuts or abrasions
And rinsing with lemon juice
And tests every three months
And how you ever got it in the first place…

“Oh,” you ask “you were in a video PSA about serophobia too?”
“Yes, I’m sure you are very open-minded.
Thank you for showing me that,” you say,
As you put your clothes back on.

SILENCE = SEX
Get used to the new equation,
Cause these bastards just don’t know the math.

Jordan Arseneault, Tumblr 15 Comments [8/20/2017 4:36:57 AM]
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Quote# 130769

[The currently-launching social media site Writscrib declared that pedophile communities will not be welcome. Here's an... interesting response.]

I will call you out for what you are: A bunch of bigots. Really? I've already faced a lot of vitriol from my family. They think I'm a weirdo. I can't have a girlfriend because she thinks I'm obsessed. I've been crying every night thinking if coming out was wrong. After all this suffering, now *you* mocks us too. Why? What do you have agains maps? Are you saying we cartographists are not allowed in your super duper elite site? Dear lord...

Anonymous, Tumblr 12 Comments [8/20/2017 4:36:38 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130768

[Video at link]

"What do you think about white people, what do you think about white people?!" *Knocked out" Left don't want discussion

nontolerantman, Twitter 0 Comments [8/20/2017 4:36:32 AM]
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Quote# 130767

The lying press have created an Orwellian nightmare; good is evil.. war is peace... protest is terrorism... LIES!



DefendEvropa, Twitter 16 Comments [8/20/2017 3:53:30 AM]
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Quote# 130764

In a radio interview on Tuesday, Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin linked the recent violence at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, to the removal of Bible study from public schools, saying that the removal of “things that are biblically taught from society” is correlated with “the kind of mayhem” we saw in Charlottesville.

Bevin spoke on Tuesday with West Virginia radio host Tom Roten about the Charlottesville violence and efforts to remove Confederate monuments from public lands, which Bevin said was a “sanitization of history” that he “absolutely” disagrees with.

Bevin said that removing these monuments sets “a dangerous precedent” that we’re “not allowed to talk about certain elements of our history” and amounts to “revisionist history.”

He then appeared to allude to efforts to remove statues of Roger Taney, the Supreme Court justice who wrote the Dred Scott decision, as part of a slippery slope set by removing Confederate memorials. (Although Bevin did not name names, a statue of Taney was recently removed in Annapolis, Maryland.)

“At what point—If somebody happened to have been a judge and something was erected in their honor but they happened to have one ruling one time that somebody’s offended by, is that worthy of them being removed from pretending they ever existed?” he asked.

Later in the interview, Roten asked Bevin about a “Bible literacy” bill he signed in June that encourages public schools to offer nominally secular Bible courses.

Bevin linked the removal of religious education in public schools to the efforts to take down Confederate monuments, saying that taking the Bible out of schools is also a “dangerous” attempt to “scrub history” because “when you go back a couple of hundred years, in most instances the only textbooks that were in our public schools were the Bible .”

“And it’s interesting,” he added, referring to the discussion of Charlottesville, “the more we’ve removed any sense of spiritual obligation or moral higher authority or absolute right and wrong, the more we’ve removed things that are biblically taught from society, the more we’ve seen the kind of mayhem that we were just discussing.”

Matt Bevin, Right Wing Watch 17 Comments [8/19/2017 1:15:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 130763

I don’t know how accurate this report on Chechnya killing sodomites is, but if its true, all I can say is God bless Chechnya for this.

Theodore Shoebat, Shoebat.com: Awareness and Action 8 Comments [8/19/2017 1:14:53 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 130761

God has fine tuned the universe so the solar eclipse can happen.
The moon is about 400 times smaller than the sun, and the sun is 400 times farther away from the Earth at the time humans can observe the solar eclipse.

booth, Y! answers 6 Comments [8/19/2017 1:14:20 PM]
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Quote# 130759

Some of you here are saying that it's ok for Muslim kids to be friends with kaafir kids at a young age. I disagree...this might have been true 20 years ago, but with the way kaafir kids are nowadays they tend to be more sexually aware and have more bad manners. They might say rude things about their parents for example or have an abnormal level of knowledge of things they shouldn't know about or want to discuss cartoons that are unislamic-forget cartoons they probably watch movies with their parents. Some of them may be into music and their parents may have no qualms with them watching anything they like on tv.

I don't have a tv in my house, my son is allowed to watch things that have been monitored...not all cartoons are appropriate. None of us watch movies and it's expected that he speaks in a respectful way. I am, teaching my eldest son (41/2) about Allah and Islaam...basic things. If I was to put him with kaafir kids it will mess all of that up and confuse him.

He can interact with the kuffar as he gets older, but he will have to know that what they do is wrong and not to get close to them. Even "bad" Muslim kids...they would have to be taught not to get close to them either unless they can teach them about Islam.

Also, I just want to mention something about the older generation-they didn't know society as well as we do now since they were from back home (born and brought up there) and so they didn't always have the correct tools or know how to deal with issues that our generation might have had. Many of them felt safe about everything and then got a rude awakening when their child hit their teenage years wanted a bf/gf, took drugs etc..in fact it still happens now where parents think it's ok to teach Islam at home, just salah and how to read Quran and have no idea about how wider society works and feel that their kids will be ok...Not only that, but many of them don't practice what they preach. Islam is just a culture to them

Umm_Hanzalah, Ummah 6 Comments [8/19/2017 1:12:01 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130758

i have multiple sets of nephews and nieces and the ones who are allowed to mix with kuffar are turning out like them.

i will give you my opinion which i gave them too. its up to you guys to take it or leave it but i will definitely implement this on my kids

Use the same rule for kids as we do for adults, they can talk nicely to kuffar in class when they need to co-exist but they should never be allowed to take them as close friends (going over to each others house).

you are the average of the people you associate with. hanging around with kuffar will make them de-sensitized to kufr and sinns.

the next step is that they start to commit these sins themselves. wallahi, i have witnessed this happen. so take this advice very seriously.

??? ??????, Ummah 4 Comments [8/19/2017 1:11:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130757

I would like to tell you some things about Sailor Moon. I am ashamed to say that I used to watch it a lot a few years ago before I realized how warped and disgusting it was.

First of all, the Japanese and English versions are kind of different. (WELL THAT MIGHT BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT!) In the Japanese version there is a lot of homosexuality going on as well as bisexuality that parents might not understand.

For example, there is a couple who work for Queen Beryl: Zoycite (an effete/effeminate) and Malachite are both male characters in the original Japanese version, but Zoycite who is more feminine looking than Malachite was dubbed a female in the American version! They are gay! Homosexual! And I wonder if parents here in America knew if they would have been angry or just go with the flow?!

Another homosexual couple, two women called Sailor Neptune and Uranus, have a daughter in the Japanese version. However, one day when I was watching it on the cartoon network, there was an episode with both Sailor Senshi or soldiers/scouts in USA version. Sailor Uranus is the more boyish of the couple with her short, blond hair and taller, slender looks. In this episode she was dressed in a suit like a young man. AT first I thought that it was a BOY and so did the other Sailor scouts who were drooling with hearts and teardrops forming around their heads! If I noticed this blatant, in your face homosexuality -- who else did?

Well, someone must have because I haven't seen the show on television since. Good.

Some have said that Sailor Neptune and Uranus' relationship is a "parody of heterosexual relationships" because Uranus who is more male than all of the Sailor Scouts and Sailor Neptune who is more female are reflecting a warped version of family life, due to the fact that they are both women.

For instance, their daughter calls them "mama" and "papa". The male pair are a couple of the villains in the first season and the latter female pair are the good guys in the later series. There is also a great deal of -- I am not sure if I want to use this word -- pedophilia in the show. Young girls as young as 12 or 13 (8th graders mind you) are falling head over heels in love with older, wicked men. One example is the relationship between Neflite, a soldier for the Negaverse and Molly, an ordinary and virginal human girl. No wonder that girls age 12 are dating men as young as 28!

There is a lot of occult or alchemic talk in the show: quest for crystals, moon prisms, which are worn as brooches for extra power. But where are they drawing this power from? The Negaverse has power like that too. I think that it is like the idea of White and Black Magic: though both won't admit it they are tapping their power from the same source: Satan.

In the Japanese version, Sabrina's name is Usagi or Bunny because of her hairstyle. Tuxedo Mask is really Tuxedo Kamen and his princely name is Mamoru. To me there is a lot of "goddess" worship in the show, like what you would find from the ancient religions of Greece and the Mystery religions of Rome.

A lot of Sailor Moon fans deny the witchcraft element. WELL, how come Luna, the black cat can turn into a human?! It's true!

In the manga (comic) series Luna and her consort, Artemis and Diane (a kitten, their daughter) transform into their human forms in the final battle to help Sailor moon destroy an "evil" foe! In the movie version "Sailor S or Heart of Ice", Luna falls in love with a human. She is transformed into a human by Super Sailor Moon, who uses "the power of the chalice" to grant Luna's wish and to make Kakeru's (her love interest) dreams come true: She takes him on a trip to the Moon in the personage of a Princess he loves named Kaguya! Afterwards, she transforms back into a cat.

The weird thing about it is that the cats are guardians of Sailor Moon, her husband or prince, Prince Darien and their daughter Rini (American version name). Artemis, the white cat who belongs to Sailor Venus, is an exception.

There is also slight nudity during the transformation scenes when the Sailor scouts change their into their hero clothing. Some have said that this is not for sexual stimulation, which is a lie because most Japanese business men would get their "kicks" at these scenes. They also have some disgusting fetish for schoolgirl panties! They buy them from vending machines or from the girls themselves. White ones are preferred and there is a lot of that flashing on the show. I am not lying! I was shocked when I found it on a website about a year ago.

As I grow in the love of Jesus, it appears that my mind is expanding spiritually as well as I read His awesome Word. A lot of shows that I once watched I no longer care for, especially if they are in conflict with the Truth and beliefs. For instance, I no longer enjoy watching Will and Grace because I realize now that it is glorifying homosexuality and the like. A lot of shows in America do that. I no longer care to compromise my faith. And even though I may stumble along the way, I thank God for His Holy Spirit that whispers to me, reminding me what is good and lovely what is righteous and holy and what is not. He has opened my eyes.

Sailor Moon and other anime may seem harmless, but if you are a Christian, you in no way should be promoting or protecting this kind of material by saying, "It teacher adults and adolescence alike virtues" because we know that that is far from the Truth. Nothing should be a substitute for Our Sword and that is the very Word of God.

Monique Desir, CrossRoad 15 Comments [8/19/2017 1:11:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130756

Personally, I think kids should avoid this show. It's not all bad, really. There are some good things to say about it: good vs. evil, etc. But the problem grows as the episodes progress. There are lesbian characters, homosexuals, transvestites and other gender-benders. The Sailor Scouts are usually wearing skirts that would reveal private body parts, if they actually had any.

Another problem that is typical of programming like this that attracts children, regardless of whether it was intended to or not: children will look up Sailor Moon on the Internet and find a Pandora's box of filth. Fans of the show submit “fanfics” or stories about the cartoon characters. They often include grotesquely graphic lesbian scenes between the cartoon characters.

I'm sorry I was ever ignorant enough to believe that a show that appears to be made for children is actually suitable for children. I'm also sorry that I believed that having an internet filter on my computer would filter out this kind of filth. It doesn't always. Better to not let your kids get hung up on the show.

Maria, Christian Answers 8 Comments [8/19/2017 1:11:42 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Katie