Quote# 136986

Can you give a good reason why you believe child pornography ahouldnt be illegal? Because to me it sounds like youre justifying child rape in the name of "anti-censorship"

I’m not doing that at all, and you shouldn’t put scare quotes on anti-censorship.

First, let’s go over a few incidents. Recently, I heard about an acquaintance of mine whose 16-year-old son’s 17-year-old girlfriend attempted to send him a topless selfie but instead accidentally texted it to her neighbor, an old lady who freaked out and called the police. And the first reaction of the police was to begin the process of indicting ALL THREE OF THEM for possession of child pornography and adding them to the sex offender registry for life - and it’s only because the girl’s dad was a golfing buddy of the chief of police that it ended with all of their cell phones being confiscated and wiped instead. Does this sound like a reasonable way of dealing with this situation? Were all of them child rapists? How much prison time should you get for the crime of receiving an unsolicited JPEG file exactly?

Let’s consider also the Playpen incident last year, which was what prompted that post you’re probably responding to, in which the FBI ran a sting operation that disseminated a massive amount of child pornography through the dark web, which was so badly mishandled that very few people they caught downloading real hardcore child rape pornography can be prosecuted. The US federal government is itself unquestionably the biggest distributor of child pornography there is. This is the same federal government that ran COINTELPRO, MKULTRA, the Tuskegee syphilis experiments, etc. And they are now headed by Donald Trump, who is one of several political figures who went to Jeffrey Epstein’s private island before Epstein was convicted of trafficking in underage prostitutes. Donald Trump of the Republican Party, which recently had Dennis Hastert as the Speaker of the House, who has since been convicted of raping an underage boy. And let’s not even get into all the shit the Democrats have been caught doing. Are these the people you trust to fairly enforce these laws? Do you think it would be difficult for any three-letter agency to put child pornography on your computer without your knowledge if they wanted to, so they could prosecute anyone they wanted and claim they were secretly a pedophile, to destroy their reputation? Is that a power you are comfortable with Donald Trump and the deep state having? They haven’t been willing to legally define ‘pornography,’ even. Having laws forbidding certain combinations of ones and zeroes hands those people a blank check to destroy whomever they wish.

Let’s go back to what prompted my personal interest in this whole debate, which was the relationship I had with an older woman when I was 16 - when I had a job, I was going to college, I was allowed to drive a multi-ton motor vehicle, I was talking to a recruiter about joining the Marine Corps, etc. but had no access to many other legal rights arbitrarily withheld from people under 18. If she had sent me racy photos of herself or vice versa, well, she might still be in prison today. As it was, we carefully avoided putting her at risk for two very long years until I was 18, at which point we had a rather normal romantic adult relationship for several years that ended amicably, that I look back on fondly today. As the person who was supposedly protected here by being forcibly kept apart from the person I loved, how do you think I feel about the state’s interference in our relationship now? If you guessed ‘immensely resentful even after all these years,’ you are correct. Would it have been child rape on her part if I had sent her a picture of my naked body unprompted? Does it make any sense that I could pledge to sign several years of my life over to the military at that age but I couldn’t send someone a picture of myself? Do you get how that experience molded my opinion on the subject and made me willing to speak out on the subject even if it meant people would call me a pedophile?

One of the most famous home movies in history is the Zapruder film of the Kennedy assassination. We’ve all seen it, right? But it’s photographic evidence of a crime. Shouldn’t we all be charged with condoning the murder of the president for watching that footage, by your logic? Surely you agree that murder is worse than rape. Shouldn’t possessing media of a person being killed be illegal, if possessing media of a person being raped should be? And if animated or drawn child pornography is illegal, shouldn’t possessing any movie or video game in which a person is shown being killed be grounds for imprisonment as well? The logic that you folks use has implications far beyond this subject, but you never really pursue those implications (and you shouldn’t, because they’re insane).

My point is, that’s because you’re fabricating unsound legal principles here to support the existence of this unjust, unconstitutional law (probably because anyone who questions it gets accused of being a pedophile, and you don’t want to wind up with clueless anons accusing you of justifying child rape, for example), instead of coming up with law based on sound legal principles. In any other context, anyone would tell you that possessing a picture or video of a crime is not the same thing as committing the crime yourself and the harm was entirely in the original crime, not just watching it. Are you justifying robbing convenience stores by saying it shouldn’t be illegal to watch America’s Dumbest Criminals? And if we took that principle to extremes it’d suppress important political speech - for example, after Vietnam the American media was pressured by the military to stop showing images of US soldiers in body bags, and as a consequence we’re more emotionally isolated from the wars currently being waged and information about the circumstances of the deaths of soldiers has been kept from the public ‘out of respect.’ Laws against pornography were used not so long ago to suppress information about birth control and sex education. It’s not unimaginable that there’s something important we’re not being allowed to know about, or that we’re all afraid to discuss, because it’s been declared child pornography. Censorship is absolutely something you should be afraid of in any form, and even well-meaning censorship can inadvertently suppress the truth. A free society, especially a democracy, depends on open access to information to function and I’m skeptical of anything that nibbles at that around the edges, even for the noblest of causes. These things always have chilling effects on expression far beyond their official limits as well. If some JPEGs can be illegal it requires all this machinery of surveillance and enforcement that can be just as easily used to suppress other things, and if we don’t trust the state, which we shouldn’t, we shouldn’t be comfortable with that machinery of censorship existing at all. We can’t trust them to stay within their mission - look at all the NSA personnel spying on their girlfriends instead of terrorists. Look at how the state has far outgrown its constitutional bounds. Stopping a few fucked up people from getting access to their preferred masturbation material is not worth having to give Leviathan access to all of our digital communications.

I am an anarchist. I discuss radical libertarian politics here. That’s why I’m against this law that’s been abused so much, the enforcement of which has been a massive travesty of justice for decades. Not because I’m ‘trying to justify child rape.’ My ideology is rooted in the nonaggression principle, which rape obviously violates. Do you think I should take the position of ‘we need to remove all power from the government except the power to prosecute people for child pornography?’ There’s no exception here to my general critique of the state. And what do you think would happen to child rapists in Ancapistan, anyway? ‘Hunted for sport’ is my guess. A convicted child rapist would probably not be able to retain the protection of a DRO (I’ve conjectured for a long time that that might be the one thing all of them would refuse to deal with) and they’d have the status of a medieval outlaw, they’d have no legal protections - likely a de facto death sentence with all the people who’d be lining up to kill them. Meanwhile, the state plays catch and release with child rapists - go check the sex offender map and see how many live in your community right now, I dare you.

Anyway, Anon, you are the unwitting pawn of someone who has started a harassment campaign against me, who has accused me of all kinds of other ridiculous vile shit in the past few days as well, and sent messages encouraging me to commit suicide. They dug up a post from nearly two years ago and reposted it outside of the context of the ongoing debate we had had, triggered by the revelation that the FBI had disseminated a massive amount of child pornography on the deep web. I had explained all of this back then in even greater detail, but then someone sent me an anon asking me about banning violent porn and I made the mistake of mentioning my position again without that context, so it could be misinterpreted by people unfamiliar with my ideas.

So yeah, I don’t condone raping children, I’m not a psychopath, I just really don’t trust the government, in large part because there are so many actual child rapists at the highest levels of government, and I think we can do better than the current system. I hope this clarifies my thinking for you.

sadoeconomics, tumblr 5 Comments [3/2/2018 11:37:07 AM]
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Quote# 136991

You can't stop having sex because you've opened a doorway in your life for an evil spirit to vex you. All throughout the New Testament you'll read about those who were 'vexed' by evil spirits.

This is because demons are real. And whenever there is ungodly sexual activity taking place, demons will surely be found.

Now where does that leave you? You stopped being promiscuous when you gave your life over to Jesus. But every now and then in spite of the guilt and shame that it brings, you find yourself slipping back into the same sin that Jesus once rescued you from.

Why can't you get control over your flesh and keep it?

Why can't you master the urge to masturbate or to watch skin flicks?

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Mack Major, Facebook 25 Comments [3/1/2018 12:57:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136988

Lady Checkmate's headline: "ABC News silent after more than 30,000 calls over 'View' star Joy Behar's 'anti-Christian bigotry'"

(cut-and-paste of Fox News story, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/02/28/abc-news-silent-after-more-than-30000-calls-over-view-star-joy-behars-anti-christian-bigotry.html)

Lady Checkmate:
Double-standard OR support of bigotry against Christians?? Either way, it's blatant hypocrisy and hate.



Lady Checkmate:
"Normally you would think abc and the advertisers would fear the bad publicity."
Yes, unless their offense is against Christians. Remember they're a part of the group who believes:



Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 15 Comments [3/1/2018 12:56:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136985

Wow so you think child porn shouldn't be illegal? They contribute to kids suffering

It shouldn’t be illegal and it actually doesn’t, anyway most ‘child porn’ is made by teenagers with camera phones who then get put in prison and put on the sex offender registry for taking nude selfies and sending them to each other. The biggest victims of child porn being illegal are the children themselves.

Look, I’ve already made my position clear on this many times, please come up with something new to be anonymously sanctimoniously wrong at me about

sadoeconomics, tumblr 6 Comments [3/1/2018 12:56:25 PM]
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Quote# 136983

Prediction: Universities as we know them will be irrelevant in 15 years. Young people can learn more online right now then they can at these indoctrination centers. Get crackin’, @jordanbpeterson, @BretWeinstein, @gadsaad, @EricRWeinstein, @CHSommers, @peterboghossian...

Dave Rubin, Twitter 12 Comments [3/1/2018 12:55:52 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136982

Like Moses and Elias/Elijah in Ihe older lexis, I'm the only prophet on the earth. Jezebel in the Thyatira letler was Damascus bishop of Rome in 431 A.D taking the title Pontificus Maximus from the last Caesar. Julius Caesar had the title Pontificus Maximus as did Constantine which was high-priest of the mystery religion of the Roman Empire. Julius Caesar would burn the guts of animals and get omens like Satanic Nostradamus. It is pre-delermined that the all the Popes get cast into the lake of fire, Pope Francis shall be cast into the lake of fire at the appointed time. The present mystery babylon is the Roman Catholic Church. In Revelation, the present city that rules over the kings of the earth is Vatican City headed by the Satanic Emperor Pope/Papa/Father Francis. Jesus said call no man your father on earth. Dr. Scott/Elias taught that Good Friday comes from the Scandinavian Good Freyla and was the name for Easter/Ishtar/Ashtarte/Semiramis the queen of babylon. Therefore, Popes say Jesus died on Easter/Friday/Freyla and rose 36 hours later at Easter Sunday sunrise. Dr. Scott/Elias taught that Jesus died on a Wednesday at sundown in a year when Passover and First Fruits Sabbath would be 72 hours apart. The sign of Jonah was that he would be dead for 72 hours. The timing Jonah was vomited out, the timing Jesus raised himself as prophesied in John 10:18 The twelve apostles and Dr. Scott/Elias/Elijah were wrong to teach that Jesus' father raised Jesus because Jesus prophesied in John 10:18 that he would raise himself. Paul taught Jesus' father raised Jesus out of the deads(grave-yard).

Psych(Psychc) in Greek means soul. In the excellent documentary by the Church of Scientology called, "Psychiatry an Industry of Death Museum", one psychiatrist taught that man is just an animal without a soul. Psych psych ology, psych iatry. Ron L. Hubbard and Tom Cruise arc Israelites, I don't know if John Travolta is an Israelite. Elvis was a Satanic tare false Christian and was an Israelite like Batman and Robin. The words rock and roll means to have sex in the back seat of a car, Dolly Parton is a Satanic tare Israelite as are the Rolling Stones. Python means snake in Greek. Monty Python characters were snakes in action.

Samson killed a big kitten lion-cub. In Winnipeg, 1 killed a wild kitten that bit me while wearing long Johns, 1 threw at a Chinese woman in her store while she was reading an evil Bible. The firemen took an ax to break into the house I was staying in, I had to spend lime in a psychiatric jail(a parking ticket).

Ray Marion, A New Covenant Interlinear (book) 9 Comments [3/1/2018 12:53:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 136981

Hi Mich, I'll start from the beginning. In 1987 I was an atheist. In my bedroom on top of the store, I was laying face down on mv bed and I hit my butt cheeks spread, I turned my head and realized an evil invisible being did this, I was terrorfied, I didn't know what to do, I prayed, "If there's a God, help me". Next, I saw my soul coming out of the left side of my body. My soul was standing at the end of the bed and I saw my body on the bed, next, I was in God's presence for about 5 minutes, no words exchanged, eyes closed, I jumped off the bed and put my hands to the side of my face and said "Holy shit, there's a God", and 1 was very scared. Two days later, face down on my bed, all of a sudden, the room lights up superbrightly, two angels in my bedroom fighting, my eyes are closed but I knew they were fighting, super pressure on the top of my body, I felt them trying to enter my body, I was shacking, next, I'm jabbed on the right side of my chest, and they entered my body. That week, I see Dr. Scott for the first time on satellite, the first thing he said was, It dates Jesus' birth on September 29th 2 B.C, it's history written in advance. The first Sunday I listen to him, he leaches on Jude 1:9 and days Michael and Satan are fighting over Moses" body. This is how I knew that il was Michael and Satan in my body. I only told my girlfriend Alison Boily that Michael and Satan were in my bedroom, I didn't tell her thev were in my body, I didn't want anyone to know. Il was not until 2016 that I would reveal that they were in my body. The following is proof that they are in my body. In 1989,1 was with Ed Mckenna at the sandpit in Beausejour, Manitoba, he was five feet in front of me on the sand, I stopped walking behind him and pointed to the water and said, "It's a lake of fire". It was Michael that said this. I was stunned by what I said, I was terrorfied for about 2 hours and Ed mocked for about 2 hours. Enoch prophesied that a body of water would be changed to fire and it would be God's final judgment. Ezekiel prophesied that the devil would be taken to earth against his will to the sides of the pit the future lake of fire. When Michael said, "It's a lake of fire", Satan was in my body and was besides the pit as prophesied by Ezekiel. Mich, I'm a real prophet, I don't know if you and Jozette and your children are chosen, I know I'm chosen. I warn you, blasphemy against the saintly spirit won't be forgiven, I told you my story, don't doubt what I told you.

How did I break up with Alison? She was naked on my couch, I had my right big toe in her beaver and was wiggling it and watching Dr. Scott on satellite, she said, "Stop listening to Dr. Scott and marry me". I got up, told her to get dressed, and 1 kicked her out of my apartment and we broke up.

You can do a web search " Jesus born September'. This will show you good essays on the course of Abia, To date Jesus' birth, Zacharias was John's father of the course of Abia which can be dated. Elizabeth's pregnancy, then, the Bible say s Jesus and John were born six months apart which put Jesus' birth in the fall. I agree with Dr. Scott that Jesus was born on the feast of the trumpets.

If I said I wasn't the smartest person on the earth I would be lying because Michael is in my body and he is super super super super smart.

There are prophecies about me I won't mention, I will let them happen, There's one big prophecy yet to come. I'll mention my birth mark. Taurus the bull was the sign given to the birthright man Joseph. Dr. Scott was right to leach that the two horns of power of the bull is Mannasseh the United States and Ephraim the British Empire. The scored lines in the pyramid of Isaiah 19:19 hits my birthmark the star called Alceon. Dr. Scott was right that the bull shall be Jesus returning to the earth as the charging bull killing his enemies at Armageddon. He also taught that the bull is painted over the Rheem in Job. He said the Rheem was twice the size of an ox and could't b tamed by man, and if it caught sight of a man, it would charge to kill. It was killed off by man because it was too dangerous to let live. When I come back in about 200 years as Moses again, I won't have this birthmark and I will have a different body because I will be born of a different woman.

To be a lord, you have to own at least one slave as property to boss around. Eve was cursed in the Greek text with pain associated with child-bearing and Adam becomes her lord. These curses were put on Jesus at calvary. Your wife is you Goddess, and you are a God, and hopefully you is a son of Jesus and of his father, Jesus came in his father's name, his father's name is Jesus. When Jesus returns his name shall be "The lord is there".
Only Elias and Moses appear more than once on the earth, Elias 8 times and I Moses 7 times.

If looks like Nostradamus' prophecy of a tax revolt in the west is getting closer.

Written by; Ray Marion (Moses in Jude 1:9 possessed by Michael and Satan since 1987 )

Ray Marion, A New Covenant Interlinear (book) 15 Comments [3/1/2018 12:53:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 136980

I no longer associate with Pastor Melissa Scott because she is under the control of a fallen angel. She teaches to love your enemy the antichrist when he comes and to love the false prophet when he comes and love your enemy the devil. When Jesus taught to love your enemies, he wasn't functioning as any high-priest nor kinsman redeemer, he was Judah's law giver giving a law to demonstrate the law can't be kept just like Moses breaking the tablets symbolized the impossibility of keeping the law.

I agree with Dr. Seott/Elias that Jesus was born on the feast of the trumpets, while his satanic wife teaches Jesus was born on one of the seven days of tabernacles.

Melissa Satanicly teaches that Paul was talking about himself taken to the third heaven when in truth Paul was clearly talking about another man taken to the third heaven.

Melissa teaches that if you're baptized by her you become chosen. Dr. Scott rightly mocked baptisms by saying "Splish Splash, take a bath". At Pentecost, they were baptized but didn't receive a saintly spirit nor were their the sins the forgiven. I agree with Dr. Scott/Elias that Pentecost was a harvest of death. The about 3000 at Pentecost were Satanic tares false Christians in the parable of tares and wheat. Only Jesus received a saintly spirit by being baptized. As part of Ezekiel's bullshit exposed, those baptized by John weren't chosen.

She claims to be the smartest person on the earth and knows over 30 languages. An example of her teaching, she says "Son of Man", in Mark and Matthew. I translate this as, "the son of the man". If you eat garbage like Son of Man from her, pay for garbage and go to hell assholes!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Scott was right that Melchizedek was Shem. His satanic wife says Dr. Scott was psychologically delusional in teaching that Melchizedek was Shem.
Is Pastor Melissa Scott going to heaven? That's what she thinks.

For years, she has insulted me Moses in Jude 1:9 What a joke, years ago, she said I was her husband and had no love (eros) for her. I don't fuck pigs.

Ray Marion, A New Covenant Interlinear (book) 6 Comments [3/1/2018 12:53:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 136979

Even as a child, I knew that news on television were lies. I don't have a television. I watch documentaries and read essays on the wild wild wild west internet. Satanic Jews and satanic Jesuits like Pope/Pa pa/Father Francis can't control the web. Pierre Trudeau was a Jesuit and is now in the ades/hell, and his son is going there.

Elias/Elijah was taken up in an IFO. UFOs exist and controlled the NASA program, they control like robots/puppets medical doctors and psychiatrists, big pharma, and all government civil servants that kill each other, they exist to do evil because the devil and his angels really exist and they control them like puppets, for example the Rockfellers are puppets of the devil.

What's in some vaccines? (Mercury)Thimerosol, Aluminum, Formaldehyde, animal matter, live viruses. Who are they trying to kid that this is a healthy product? They are puppets of the devil that exist to do evil. Cops holding down someone and a psychiatric nurse injects a toxic pesticide into someone, they say they are doing you good, what's really going on? It's Nazi styled medicine, it's fascism, it's a form of rape.

Dr. Scott/Elias/EIijah taught that skull and bones is based on a true story of a woman that got pregnant by a demon. A warning picture of poison products is skull and bones.

Do vaccines produce antibodies? No, if it did, persons with a mump vaccines wouldn't gel the mumps but they still do because vaccines are like a pseudo-science like memory pills. You got be a nut to think a pill will make you have a better memory. I never got a vaccine shot except I think the Catholic school Provencher in grade 7, I never got medication from a doctor in a hospital, I'm very healthy. I was an atheist in grade 7, we were marched to the St.Boni-face basilica army style to confess our sins, I said to the priest saying I had no sins as an atheist. If anyone complains about what 1 write? I pay for the paper. If you don't pay monies to a preacher? You're like an atheist, you shall get kicked in the ass into ades/hell for free, what a bargain, no charge, it's freedom of choice

In the Bible, when a man has sex with a woman, they are officially married, what's your definition of sex? Is it better then Jesus' and his father's definition.
Samson had sex with a Satanic Delilah and a Satanic hooker. King Solomon had Satan's authority to make laws and married and had erotica! sex with with over 1000 women. Pope Francis and catholic clergy are faggots (nuns and Arab women wear the same veils) that take vows without paying money for Biblical vows
The two spies sent to Jericho had sex with hookers and Joshua/Jesus a type of Khrist like Moses, Elias and Peter and Paul and the saints didn't accuse them of being sinners.

Murder costs money to be paid to Jesus and his father, the money stolen after murdering the citizens of kata-cursed Jericho went to the (preachers) Levitical Priest to spend on whatever they wanted to spend it on like hookers if they wanted to.

The Passover Covenant, murder to get the conditional promised land contrasted by the day of atonement covenant which was John's blood as the goat's blood and you shall not eat pork to get eternal life which was a covenant to deceived believers into believing that by not murdering for example you get eternal life, most people say murder is evil, not the Bible, Jesus shall kill his unGodly enemies at the battle of Armageddon, before this, Elias and Moses shall literally breath fire out of their mouths to kill their enemies.

Satanic medical doctors? Two mammograms = being one mile from Hiroshima when the atom bomb went off. World War 3 shall be Nazi-Bayer Monsanto (Kothchilds-Kockfellers-British Queen-Pope).

Einstein's MCsquarcd. Satanic Monsanto taught propaganda lies like the CBC and CTV television newscasts that growth hormones for cow to produce more milk (20%) without eating more food, that the milk would be created without the cows eating more food. No extra food, no extra milk, this makes sense to mine mind and I'm super smart. The growth hormone produced mad cow disease. Mister/Master/Lord/Sir/Mr. arnold Schwarzenegger, My satanic nephew took steroids and I saw him with 1% body fat, he was demon possessed like eugenesist Arnold, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, and Hilary and Bill Clinton and both George Bush have evil/profane spirits in their bodies, I can see this, my eyes were changed in Winnipeg. Mrs. or mam means lordess.

Ray Marion, A New Covenant Interlinear (book) 6 Comments [3/1/2018 12:53:07 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 136977

DES MOINES, Iowa — The president of the Universal Society of Hinduism opened the Iowa House and Senate with prayer to a false god on Monday.

Heather Clark, Christian News Network 11 Comments [3/1/2018 12:52:44 PM]
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Quote# 136976

Lady Checkmate's headline: "YouTube has tapped alt-left (i.e.,far-left) group to help police content, report says"

(from Fox news)

YouTube has enlisted the far-left Southern Poverty Law Center to assist with policing content, according to The Daily Caller.

The law center, or SPLC, bills itself as a civil rights organization that is “dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry, but was accused by Politico in 2017 of “overstepping its bounds.”

The SPLC’s site proudly declares that it has “toppled institutional racism and stamped out remnants of Jim Crow segregation; destroyed some of the nation’s most violent white supremacist groups; and protected the civil rights of children, women, the disabled, immigrants and migrant workers, the LGBT community, prisoners, and many others who faced discrimination, abuse or exploitation.” However, Politico asked if “SPLC is overplaying its hand” by “becoming more of a partisan progressive hit operation than a civil rights watchdog” during the Trump administration.

“Critics say the group abuses its position as an arbiter of hatred by labeling legitimate players ‘hate groups’ and ‘extremists’ to keep the attention of its liberal donors and grind a political ax,” Politico’s Ben Schreckinger wrote.

The controversial group is one of the organizations that YouTube has selected to help police the site for extremist content, The Daily Caller reported, citing “a source with knowledge of the arrangement.”

YouTube’s parent company, Google, did not respond to a request for confirmation.

While several of YouTube’s partners in the program used to help flag hateful content on the platform have publicly said they’re participating, others remains concealed by a confidentiality agreement, according to The Daily Caller.

The SPLC did not immediately respond to request for comment.

“The SPLC’s close involvement in policing content on YouTube is likely to cause consternation among conservatives who worry that they may not be treated fairly,” Daily Caller associated editor Peter Hasson wrote.

Hasson pointed to a 2013 shooting at the Family Research Council headquarters, when Floyd Lee Corkins II plead guilty to committing an act of terrorism after attacking the facility because the SPLC labeled it a hate group. The SPLC continues to publish and update a “hate map” on its website that details locations of groups it deems hateful. Corkins admitted to using the map when he decided to attack the Family Research Council, according to the Washington Examiner.

YouTube’s global policy chief, Juniper Downs, wrote to the Senate Commerce Committee last month and said that the company added 50 groups to its “Trusted Flagger Program” in 2017. It’s unclear when the SPLC joined the program.

“We are taking a tougher stance on videos that may be offensive, but do not violate our policies,” Downs told the committee.

Google has claimed that the program will combat violence and hate on its platform, but Hasson wrote that “it also provides little transparency, forcing users to take Google’s word that they’re being treated fairly.”

Lady Checkmate:
It may be time to turn off youtube.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 10 Comments [3/1/2018 12:52:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136975

That is NOT a small house!!!

About a year ago a native German told BNI that she lost her job and became homeless and was forced to live on the street with her children — the EVIL German government wouldn’t help the family because they weren’t Muslims.

Our anti-Christ, God hater leaders are RUTHLESS and CRUEL to white European Jews and Christians.

EVERYTHING is given to Muslims who never worked; are hostile to native Europeans and have zero loyalty to our people and nations.

Hardworking Italian taxpayers who lost their jobs and became homeless along with their children and babies are regarded as WORTHLESS without any rights. God help them!

Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 8 Comments [3/1/2018 12:52:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136974

Fat rse Merkel is working hard to keep her snout in the trough, the slapper now acknowledges there are no go zones in Germany and something needs to be done about them. First three things she can do is apologise to Trump and the Germans then resign for being the beatch responsible for creating them. After that they can just send in the army to round em up for deportation. Send them to Yemen

Christine t, Bare Naked Islam 6 Comments [3/1/2018 12:52:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136973

Progressives will NEVER have the “high moral ground” for the simple reason they are utterly lacking in morality. They are, almost without exception, unprincipled Dumb Sh***s with an insane NWO agenda that mandates the destruction of everything that is good and decent in society. Their Utopian future is all about chaos and hatefulness, and the complete submission by remaining Humanity to self-styled elites lording it over them. . ..

For mankind ( NOT peoplekind, Trudeau ) to survive, all ‘progressives’ must be neutralized. There is NOTHING to debate with them — just remove them from civilized society!

DonT, Bare Naked Islam 14 Comments [3/1/2018 12:52:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136972

Important by all critical confrontations is, that they don't aim flatly against people, but against the demonstrably dangerous parts of the ideology. Not all Muslims have internalized the Quran and the through them conveyed fascist Lordmenideology with violence and death legitimation. Not all of them are in the active or spiritual djihad. To them the possibility must be given to participate with us for a necessary defusing of Islam.

All those, that refuse that and remain fixed to fundamentalist Islam, as the one that was on our planet for 1400 years, submitted 57 countries and killed 270 million people are to be seen as constitutional enemies and potential dangers. All Islamic organizations, mosque-unions, quran-schools and associations that refuse to modernize Islam or to free themselves from the modern parts od it, are then to be banned because of unconstitutional behavior. That way Islam will disappear from public life, which is an important step forwards to eliminate the ticking time bomb, that ticks in the middle of us.

Original German:

Wichtig bei allen kritischen Äußerungen ist, dass sie sich nicht pauschal gegen Menschen richten, sondern gegen die nachweislich gefährlichen Bestandteile der Ideologie. Nicht alle Moslems haben den Koran und die durch ihn vermittelte faschistische Herrenmenschenideologie mit Gewalt- und Tötungslegitimation verinnerlicht. Es befinden sich auch nicht alle im aktiven oder geistigen Dschihad. Ihnen muss die Möglichkeit gegeben werden, sich an unserer Seite an der dringend notwendigen Entschärfung des Islams zu beteiligen.

All jene, die sich dem verweigern und an dem fundamentalen Islam festhalten, so wie er seit 1400 Jahren auf dem Planeten wütet, 57 Länder unterwarf und 270 Millionen Menschen tötete, sind als akute Verfassungsfeinde und potentielle Gefährder anzusehen. Sämtliche Islam-Organisationen, Moscheegemeinden, Koranschulen und Verbände, die sich weigern, den Islam zu modernisieren und von allen gefährlichen Bestandteilen zu befreien, sind dann folgerichtig wegen Verfassungsfeindlichkeit zu verbieten. Auf diese Weise wird der Islam dann aus dem öffentlichen Leben verschwinden, was einen wichtigen Schritt zur Eliminierung der tickenden Zeitbombe bedeutet, die mitten unter uns tickt.

MICHAEL STÜRZENBERGER, PI News 2 Comments [3/1/2018 12:51:54 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 136971

My family members repeatedly witnessed the miracles of Falun Gong (also called Falun Dafa) over the past decade. I am sharing these stories to let more people know about Falun Gong. I dreamed that a middle-aged woman approached me and asked me to practice qigong in June 1999.

“What qigong?,” I asked.
“Pipa Gong,” she replied.
“What does it do? No ... ,” I said haltingly.
“What do you want to practice,” she asked.

I thought about it and said, “There seems to be a Falun Gong. I would like to try it” She pointed towards the people in front, “They are practicing Falun Gong. You go there.”

I went there to learn. While I was doing the Falun Standing Stance posture, someone pushed me out of the group. I turned around but found no one. I started to quarrel with that person, “Why did you push me? It was not easy for me to find Falun Gong. Now no one is around. How can I find them?” Then a tall man came and kindly asked me, “What's going on?” I told him what happened. “Follow me,” he said. It was an interesting dream even though I did not know about Falun Gong. I went back to sleep but was unable to rest. I woke up and went to the parks nearby to check out where people were doing morning exercises. While I was walking towards a park, I heard a voice say, “Wrong place.”

I stood there and wondered where to go. Then I heard music coming from the science and technology building. I followed the music and saw people lined up for the exercises and inquired. “We are practicing Falun Gong,” someone answered. I stayed to learn the exercises. They also happened to be watching Master Li Hongzhi's (the founder of Falun Gong) nine-session lecture series and asked me to join. When I watched the videos, I was astonished. The person in my dream who asked me to follow him was Master Li! I became very interested in Falun Gong.

I went on vacation in June 1999 and returned after July 20th. I had not learned all the four sets of the standing exercises nor the sitting meditation. During this period, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) launched a massive persecution against Falun Gong. I knew there was nothing wrong with Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance, the principles of Falun Gong. Shouldn't we accord with these principles? The CCP said Falun Gong is not good. What was the truth?

I did not have Falun Gong books and did not know anything about the exercises . But I knew the sitting meditation involved crossing the legs. I kept trying to cross my legs, even though all I could do was to place one leg on top of the other. I could only practice two to three minutes by gripping my legs with my hands to prevent them from slipping out of position. Then a miracle happened while I was sitting crossed-leg: I felt some sensation in my back and neck. Whenever I stopped crossing my legs, it went away. I did not think about it much. Gradually, I was able to cross my legs longer. I then realized that my illnesses disappeared.

I had numerous ailments including rheumatism, cervical disease, uterine fibroids, bone hyperplasia, indigestion, and a heart arrhythmia. I used to go to the hospital for treatment before and took medicine. Nothing helped. By doing the crossed-leg exercise, all my illnesses disappeared. It was unbelievable, miraculous! I thought I would like to read the Dafa books and keep practicing Falun Gong. The persecution persisted. People were misled by the slanderous media and were forbidden from practicing Falun Gong in public. However, I came to know the goodness of Falun Gong.

My mother-in-law had severe hemorrhoids which resulted in a painful, bloated stomach. She went to see a doctor and was told that her condition was severe, and surgery was too risky. The only treatment was to apply external medicine. I changed her treatment dressing daily, but her condition did not improve. My husband knew Falun Gong was good. However, the CCP's brutal persecution terrified him. He did not want me to practice. But I was firm and resolute with both my husband and in-laws about practicing Falun Gong. I told them about my health recovery. “Falun Gong is good and hope you keep practicing. Your aunt practices Falun Gong. She is healthy now and does not need any medicine,” my mother-in-law announced one day.

She then packed up her things to go home after breakfast the next day. I asked her, “You have not recovered yet. Why are you leaving?” She said, “My illness was cured. Last night my illness disappeared. ” Miraculous! My mother-in-law just said that Master removed her illness! My mother is over 80-years-old. She had varicose veins and her legs were swollen. The doctor stated it was incurable. I told her to sincerely recite “Falun Gong is good, Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.” She listened to me and did not spend a penny. Her legs are good now. She said, “Absolutely amazing! The doctor could not cure my illness. By reciting these words, I am well now. Thank you Master Li.”

My older sister had a thyroid tumor a few years ago. The tumor was about the size of an egg. The doctor called for an immediate surgery. Her husband was sick too. She wanted to delay the procedure. I advised her, “Do not have surgery. Sincerely recite Falun Gong is good, Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.” She followed my advice every day and slept well. Then one day, she found the tumor was gone. She said excitedly, “Falun Gong is extraordinarily amazing. I want to learn it too!”

We both went to visit our mother. I had some fish and a fish bone dislodged in my throat. I had difficulty swallowing and spitting it out. I tried to swallow a steamed bun and drink vinegar, but it did not help. My mother suggested going to the hospital. Then I remembered and begged Master to help remove the fish bone. After a while, the bone was gone. I thanked Master in my heart. I told my sister that the bone was removed. She asked how. I told her Master did it. “Amazing!,” she exclaimed.

Unknown author, Minghui 2 Comments [3/1/2018 12:51:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136967

(This fundie is being serious, alas.)

Homosexuality is a major and grave sin in all major religions as it s against the human nature, luckily with the advances in medical science your condition can be treated successfully and your repentance to God will be accepted as long as you are patient enough to heal your condition.

1 - get Married ASAP with any woman you can find, even if you dont love her.

2 - seek medical treatment.
you should consult a doctor specializing on hormones balance, due to physical or diet situation your body may be lacking testosterone hormone, your doctor might prescribe to you pills or injection to increase your hormone levels in the blood, also consult the web for food that increase male hormones levels, for example the meat of the horse is known to increase the level of the masculine hormone in your body, also you should avoid all foods and chemicals that increase levels of estrogen hormone (female hormones).

3 - seek religious treatment
start reading the Quran and repent to God and ask him to assist you to reverse this condition, ask for the assistance of a religious healer who uses the Quran and the Ruqyah to treat your condition, drink plenty of the water of Zamzam, drink a Ruqya of an organic extra virgin olive oil mixed with honey and black seed.

May God Bless and Heal you.

marcoboy, Ummah 12 Comments [3/1/2018 12:50:35 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136966

Nolte: Trump’s Super-Early 2020 Announcement Kills Another Dumb Norm — It’s Also Smart

Donald Trump has already announced his intent to run for re-election in 2020, which has mercifully killed off one of the most obnoxious conceits ever — the asinine spectacle of watching a first-term president pretend to play Hamlet over the decision of whether or not to run for re-election.

The “permanent campaign” is already a quarter-century old. Naturally, it was brought to life by the grasping Clintons. The whole idea of Americans being allowed to exhale in-between presidential elections was shattered forever the moment Bill Clinton took the oath in early 1993. Then, in 2000, after he was constitutionally blocked from running again, Hillary began her 16 year quest.

And so, along with vanquishing forever the hideous Clintons (unless you count Bankrupt Terry), Trump is being brazenly upfront about his desire to win a second term and his intent to mercilessly campaign for that goal starting right now. This announcement is not only refreshingly honest, it is strategically smart.

To begin with, Trump can start raising money immediately and openly, instead of through some dumb exploratory committee, and he will need it. Trump will not only be fighting feverish Democrats and their stable of plutocrat billionaires, but untold billions of corporate dollars spent to destroy him by a mainstream media still smarting over the humiliation of 2016, and eager for payback.

Moreover, by removing the conceit of not campaigning for president, Trump does not have to stand around and take it as his opponents come after him (not that he would, anyway). For example, there is no question that even after the Evan McMuffin debacle, the sell-out crybabies in the increasingly left-wing NeverTrump will attempt to run another spoiler. Trump now has free reign to suck up all that money and to define these pathetic chumps, to get in their head, before they even step in the batter’s box.

He will also have free reign to go after the growing pile of Democrats who will seek to unseat him. Whether it is McAuliffe, Kamala Harris, Pocahontas, or whomever, Trump can work his genius in locating and mercilessly poking at their weak spot, i.e., “Low Energy Jeb,” “Crooked Hillary,” “Little Marco.”

During the raucous 2016 election, while the super-geniuses in the media were laughing at Trump’s “childish” name calling, it was that alpha male name-calling (real Americans call it “ball breaking”) that was devastating his opponents, grinding them into betas– and in this era of TV, betas do not win presidential elections.

Of course, what will be happening behind the scenes is just as vital. Trump has already chosen tech-genius Brad Parscale to run his campaign. Parscale, along with Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, were the two responsible for Trump’s brilliant online 2016 strategy, a stealth campaign that made Hillary’s digital effort’s (inherited from Obama) look like something out of the Flintstone’s.

While our clueless and lazy media were writing story after story, smugly snarking over Trump’s lack of a campaign infrastructure, Parscale and Kushner micro-targeted voters in ways previously thought impossible.

All of this, of course, adds up to Trump’s true sweet spot, his uncanny ability to psyche out his opponents, to unnerve them, to emasculate them, to make them look weak, to live under their skin. Knowing that Trump is already this far ahead of the 2020 game is intimidating enough. Knowing that whatever he is planning will be targeted against you is all part of the psy-ops strategy Trump has used for decades to stay on top.

Finally, there is Trump’s primary opposition — the corrupt mainstream media. Trump’s early announcement accomplishes one small thing and one Big Thing. The small thing is killing off all the fake news the media intended to publish (using phony sources) about Trump not running for re-election. This is an end-run around the media’s intent to make him look weak, indecisive, and beleaguered with lies.

The Big Thing is burning out the media. Trump’s seemingly inexhaustible energy and relish for a fight is one of his most potent political weapons. By announcing his intent to run for a second term, the media are automatically put on the defensive. But they are also facing three more years of lost weekends and holidays, bitter battles, and the endless fatigue and burn-out that comes with it.

When the media are tired, they become nasty and desperate, they reveal their biases and insufferable elitism, they flail with fake news. All of this serves to hasten a credibility death spiral that has already tanked the media’s approval ratings into the low twenties.

Trump’s smartest move in 2016 was to define his opponents in the media as the left-wing liars they truly are. By running his permanent 2020 campaign openly, he keeps them guessing, running, chasing, worrying, stressing — and he keeps his boot squarely on their squirming pencil necks.

JOHN NOLTE, Breitbart 14 Comments [3/1/2018 12:50:06 PM]
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Quote# 136965

In 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that vaccinations are "unavoidably unsafe".

No medical intervention that is "unavoidably unsafe" should be mandatory.

No medical procedure that does not have the "informed consent" of the patient should ever, be thrust on anyone.

Vaccinations are "unavoidably unsafe" which as a parent my first duty is above all else, "first do no harm" and to thoroughly understand the toxic ingredients in vaccinations as part of the "informed consent" process before agreeing to this invasive medical procedure.

Doctors may have thrown "first do no harm" under the bus, parents cannot afford to.

Educate before you vaccinate.

#unavoidably unsafe #informed consent #vaccination #parenting #Hippocratic Oath


sabelmouse, Tumblr 13 Comments [3/1/2018 12:50:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 136959

“Shacking-up” as it is called in the United States is the sin of fornication. I have to be careful when responding to e-mails, because I am so loving in my heart that there is a temptation at times to coddle people in their sins, to sanction and encourage them in their wrong ways, just to make them feel better. But I refuse to go there and become like that, which would make me a horrible Christian and bad preacher if I did that. It is not okay to make somebody feel okay who is living in sin.

If you shack up with someone, and they leave you at some point, you have no biblical or legal right to complain! She is not your wife or husband! Perhaps you say, “Well, if a couple are living together as a man and wife, maybe God sees them as married.” Okay, then why get married? I'll tell you why, because without a legally binding marriage there is no way to hold someone accountable for committing adultery! And here is biblical “proof” that shacking-up is NOT the same as marriage. 1st Corinthians 7:2, “Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.” So if shacking-up were considered marriage in God's eyes, then why would God tell a person to get married to avoid fornicating? Clearly, living together, that is, cohabiting in a physically intimate relationship, is not a marriage in God's sight.

Again, “Shacking-up” as it is called in the United States is the sin of fornication. 1st Corinthians 6:18, “Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.” People have lost their shame in Europe, Australia, the United States and around the world. It is a very shameful thing for a woman to be pregnant and unmarried. Congratulations On Your Bastard!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 8 Comments [3/1/2018 12:48:11 PM]
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Quote# 136957

I guess courage was not distributed equally to all through the evolutionary process and money is needed to sweeten the pot for such an important topic to be publicly discussed.

Numerous articles by scientists have appeared in the last 10 to 30 years challenging various key aspects of the Darwinian theory.

700 scientists who dissent from neo-Darwinian evolution and have signed a statement of dissent “There Is Scientific Dissent From Darwinism. It deserves to be heard.” The list is growing and includes scientists from the US National Academy of Sciences, Russian, Hungarian and Czech National Academies, as well as from universities such as Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, UC Berkeley, UCLA, and others. (DissentFromDarwin.org) “We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.” http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/links.php

The evolutionists know once creationism is acceptable and taught alongside evolution theories their house of cards crumbles. So they are fighting with all they have to prevent this.

The god that atheists don't believe in, does not exist, as many have noted they are arguing not against Christianity but their wrong view of it. It would be advantageous for atheists actually took the time to know the Christian worldview and what the Bible actually means, not just what it says before they leap into arguments against it. But if they did this they may risk conversion.

Thomas1961, Carm 11 Comments [3/1/2018 12:45:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 136956



Most genuine thinkers were philosophers first and scientists next. Their quest was never complete merely with understanding physical laws. They always sought answers beyond that.

Its in the mid 20th century that people (Dawkins.) latched on to religions like Christianity and Islam and made a big song and dance about them. This created an artificial gap and this is where hard Scientism came into the picture.


Sriram, Religion and Ethics 3 Comments [3/1/2018 12:45:06 PM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 136955

An Alaska politician has argued against tougher US gun control by claiming that Jews would have survived the Holocaust if they had been armed.

Don Young, a Republican congressman for the state since 1973, made the remark after being quizzed on school safety by Democrat Dimitri Shein, who is running for his seat, Alaska Public Media reported.

Speaking at the Alaska Municipal League, Mr Young said: “How many millions of people were shot and killed because they were unarmed? Fifty million in Russia. How many Jews were put in the ovens because they were unarmed?”

Mr Young, the last remaining member of either the Senate or House of Representatives to have served during the Richard Nixon presidency in the early 1970s, is a prominent advocate for gun rights in his home state, the Daily Mail reports.

He is a member of the National Rifle Association (NRA), and has previously said he believes that arming teachers could prevent future school shootings, a view echoed by President Trump.

Don Young, The Jewish Chronicle 6 Comments [3/1/2018 12:44:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136953

I do not know what there is to answer that I have not already answered. You seem to believe that your logic is sound and can't be refuted. But I believe that I have control over my actions. I agree that this control can't be explained by human logic, and this is why I attribute my ability to exert conscious control to the power God has given me through the gift of free will in my human soul.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 5 Comments [3/1/2018 12:43:51 PM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 136952

You’ve described England. Multiculturalism and political correctness has destroyed us. The Land of Hope and Glory is dead and gone. We won’t produce anymore Winston Churchill’s or Isaac Newtons. The most popular name is now Muhammad. Get ready America. It’s gonna happen to you.

saxum, Catholic answer  6 Comments [3/1/2018 12:42:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Mary