Quote# 24765

Power in your hands

I will start this directly,
A few months ago i met a woman who had studied on paranormale stuff..
and she said to me that my hands looked different then other ppl caus i had some spot in my hands that nobody can explain what it was.. i was being to a docter with it but the said it was just my skin spots..
She told that i had a sort of paranormale gift.. like health ppl with hands.. like giving a massage or somthing like that..
I didnt believe it but she said that she feels a sort of magnet field between my hands.. i agree with it caus some times my hands feel very weird..

My father had pain on his neck so i gived a massage..
after i was done with it he didnt had any pain anymore..
and the same happenend to my mother..

Do i really have a paranormal gift?
somebody experience with this?

1337nessCas, AboveTopSecret 7 Comments [4/15/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24766

I think every 9/11 interview on TV should have some kind of massive boner juxtaposed against it

turtal, Loose Change 5 Comments [4/15/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew

Quote# 24767

The question is why would someone call anyone that goes against the official government line a kook, simple, by insults over and over again you hope that people will get tired and go away. You are here to protect this administration and this government and those that killed all of those people on 9/11 period.

If you were at all wise, you would inderstand that questioning is a part of what makes you free, and a free thinker, otherwise you are nothing more than a robot mind controled zombie shill that does nothing but follow orders, like using nothing more than your reptilian brain, this is what you are doing, I hope you are being paid well, although you cannot take it with you but where you will be going, you will wish that you could.

commondreamer, United 93 0 Comments [4/15/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: chipmunk stew

Quote# 24728

The fact that the FBI seized all recovered aircaft debris of the planes said to have been hijacked on 9/11 and all ivestigative powers from the National Transportion Saftey Board (who normally utilize a process of serial number identification to formally identify crahsed aircraft) strongly suggests that a cover-up aimed at concealing the real identities of the planes said to be hijacked on 9/11 is underway.

Why the seizure of this debris?

Why the continued avoidance of a process that would genuinely identify this debris - a process that has been standard operating procedure for years?

Whats the matter U.S. government?

Are you afraid that an identification process would reveal that the planes were remote controlled drones?

After all, the people you identified as hijackers couldn't fly airplanes - period.

One 9/11 cover-up after another:

Cover-up of the energy policy meeting content 2 days after Bush took office that many say covered an invasion of Iraq and seizure of it's oil fields

Attempts to cover-up the NY Times oral histories that revealed eyewitness testimony of bombs in the buildings.

Cover-up of 9/11 Pentagon video's.

And on and on and on ...

Attention U.S. Government:

Why The Secrecy?

What Are You Afraid Of?

What Do You Have To Hide?

Badmachine, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24729

The truth causes paranoia, not LC.

foliocb, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24730

[About praise given by victims' families for the movie "United 93"]

Id really honestly love to meet some of the families, not to bash them or be rude or iggnorant, but to see what their feelings are.

I mean obviously there are no bodies from this crash which is rediculous as it is. Next Id love to see what has been told to them by the government, then Id love to find out about these phone calls.

I mean I think these people that think Flight 93 isa great movie, are using it to hide their pain. They dont want to admit to the truth and they would much rather believe their familiy members were heros. I mean if I were in denial Id do the same thing.

DJLegacy2k1, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24731

[On flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11]

The hero story was a smart fabrication on the part of the government because they knew that the victim's families would not want to lose their loved ones hero status.

Style, Loose Change 5 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24732

You claim to be well read on this. I certainly am not.

However, the whole Oswald's past thing is BIZZARRE!!!

And Jack Ruby whacking Oswald in a police station???

WHY?

No sense

If I were a Cuban, recently having fled from Castro, I would hate Kennedy

If I were a Cuban who had a family member on the Bay of Pigs Mission, I would want to KILL Kennedy

If I were a mobster with gambling interests in Havanna, I would want Kennedy's head on a stick

If I were a memeber of the National Front, or any other communist group, I would want Kennedy dead for the Vietnam deal

Im sure there are about 80 zillion motives for wanting him dead.

WHAT motive was there for Oswald to kill him? Besides maybe still being a communist agent perhaps

pipelineaudio, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24734

Today one must confront the obvious fact that a cadre operating within the United States Government executed the attacks of September 11th. The media cannot blind everyone, nor can the socio-political “experts” completely saturate the collective consciousness with their armchair speculations. Crossing the Rubicon identified key suspects; Loose Change has examined the physical aspects of the collapse. It is up to each individual to discern the ulterior motives behind terrorism. I think that the pathology of the elites manifests itself in a ritualistic fashion, and the attacks have been planned to coincide with an occult belief system based on numbers.

What cannot be disputed is the fact that the attacks are part of a continuing chain of serial mass murders. Much like individual serial killers whose motives are consumed and driven by delusions and other forms of psychological dementia, the faction responsible for terrorism is similarly motivated. Practicing in an esoteric belief system based on occult numerology, they have hidden this numerology in the dates of the attacks. They have formed a sequence that ends on 12/21/12, an extremely important date within their beliefs. The rituals captured on film at Bohemian Grove are only the peripheral activites of this occult society.

The CIA/MI6 attacks we have seen are precursors to the release of a biological agent sometime during the year 2012 in accordance with a depopulation scheme. Depopulation has been widely accepted in elite circles as the only pragmatic solution to the human “problem”. The pathogen will likely be released on 6/6 2012, (12/12) around the time of the summer Olympics of that year.

In the following equation pairs of like numbers are strong and permanent, and therefore do not change when added together. The dates are listed sequentially, in the order they actually occurred.

9/11 (New York)
3/11+ (Madrid)
12/11

12/11
10/12+ (Bali)
12/21/12

Key points: 1.) 7/7 was executed one day after London won the 2012 Olympic games.

In occult circles 7/7 is a powerful number pair. It was used to “mark” London in preparation for 2012.

2.) 3/11 was executed 911 days after 9/11.


Today the outbreak of killer flu is advertised as inevitable. What is not mentioned is the fact that for over 50 years Western governments have developed animal viruses at biological weapons facilities such as Plum Island (read Lab 257) and other military installations. In 2002 the DHS took responsibility for the administration of these locations. When there is an outbreak it will be planned, but in accordance with what?

yorketown, The 2012 Equation, Dates of Attacks Have Meaning to Elites 2 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: hurdygurdy

Quote# 24735

i support a global powerdown,

people would just move out into the country- continue to consume current crop production turn over- and maybe an amature ration system run by government remnants,


move back to agri labour- rebuild trade slowly and reclaim the cities after.

build a new government from the ashes built on founding farthers principals wholeheartedly.

we have enough accumulated resources to set something up- we dont need more crap to make its way into america to pull it off- its not about pulling it off, but using the media to mobilise or rally- like the land army- if you want food- return to the soil, and then make a new trade system- a powered down trade system that ifs not for the soul purpose of inflation.

everyone can have their own self sustainable permaculture set-up using existing materials from gigantic american houses, and make smaller livable premises.

all extra investment or labour can put put into developing fuel cells and solar manufactoring.

if iran can build their own airforce, on f16 replicas then i'm sure producing panals for electricity aint that hard.

compost waste, or use for nutes

suburbia can grow plants in their gardens to last them for years for their whole family.

establish local trading.

then regional- abolish national trading. keep it stable and local.

and have a state wide transit system, medicare and professionals can come from europe if oil trading switches to euros to exclude american dollar-

the japs rebuilt in 30 years- america with a new humble beginning will be strong- poeple pulling together,

japan has the world best fuel efficiency- they will provide expertise and products for redevelopment. remember they will be immune to a dollar crash through energy self sustainability.

FinalStrike, Loose Change 6 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24736

Friend, I commend your idealism. But look here....

It is widely known and accepted now that Roosevelt allowed the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor so as to shock the Americans into a war they didn't want to participate in before. Where is the outrage these days? No where. Americans don't even know about it, or they don't even care. Some even rationalize it by saying, "Well it was a war that we STILL should have been involved in regardless, so it doesn't matter if FDR knew! Hitler had to be stopped!" I bet some here on this site feel the same way.

Imagine 50 years from now, when the US is still battling the War on Terror and after countless of Americans have been killed by muslim extremists. Suppose the truth for 9/11 comes out then. Do you think Americans will care about the truth of 9/11 after all the bombings by muslim terrorists? Maybe even a nuclear or biological attack? They will probably rationalize it by saying, "Well 9/11 was neccessary to stir the nation into action because these muslim extremists are CRAZY, EVIL LUNATICS that need to be destroyed! It was the only way to get this country off it's ass!"

What about the truth of the JFK assasination? It's been 40 years, yet the battle for the truth of what happened to the man is still being fought. Despite all the independent research, nothing has become of it. Nobody has been charged for treason. Nobody ever will.

This is just how the masses are. You guys are noble in your search for the truth, but it isn't going to make much of a dent.

As I've said before, the only way true, meaningful change to occur is if the US economy collapses. We will all suffer horribly, many of us will starve, lose their homes, etc. but it is the only way this country will get pissed off enough.

thinicer, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24737

ok if possible can we get a list of people who knew before or on the day this was an inside job or it was let happen..

the jews in the WTC

and mciheal c ruppert CIA whistle blower- he held the truth and lies of 9/11 conference 2 months after 9/11- he didnt even need physical evidence and provides the lead up events and the warning before it happend- all properly sourced. an independant investigation as presented as if it were brought before the supreme court of justice.[...]


FinalStrike, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24738

[Regarding cattle mutilations]

Well...Incase you missed my sarcasm, I call upon Occams Razor for the third time in two days.

First Solution: Thousands of farmers around the world have the technology, knowledge, and expertise in atomical surgery. They often mutilate their own cattle, file police reports, for unknown reasons.

Second Solution: An outside source has been doing this.

I believe it's aliens, because noone on planet earth has the technology to do it with the precision it's done with.

Incase you don't know, all of the mutilations are done with cell-level percision. This is why I keep on saying Atomical surgery. This is all on a very very very small scale, and would require technology that is not available on earth.

Cell-level surgery does not exist on earth. Thus it solution two.

Vinci, AboveTopSecret 3 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24739

Something Interesting.......

Here's what happened. I was in Kissimmee School whne suddenly the intercom came on and the princple's voice sounded like a cross between a human and an alien but she kept talking as if she didn't notice. After that, I called my friend and he said that the power at his house went dead for a little. That same day the lights flickered at my house. Nothing has happened since then but I'm still investigating. This happened around the month of March. Eveythings been normal even the perverted minds of some girls.

spidy, AboveTopSecret 2 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24740

Alien = Demons the DMT connection

I am sure enough of you are familar with the pineal gland by now. However I will do a small recap for those who are not. Your pineal gland produces DMT and is released under the following circumstances;
1)First 50 days of a fetus's birth
2)When you dream at night
3)When the physical body dies

Well I would think with the above 3 items on hand that would speak volumes of transitition point between soul and body no matter if you carry faith or not in God or afterlife.

Ok so in early study of DMT patients giving the synthetic form had very scary experiences. Most all have witnessed some scary form of an alien/s.
With that said I would conclude that aliens and demons are no different. Some people have a difficult time believing in a God but aliens don't seem to far fetched in some sort of superior life form. Next problem I see people have with making the two to be the same is aliens have some sort of physical body. My theory is when two beings come into the same enviroment there is some sort of process happening maybe the human mind expecting a physical form grants the being to have one. No different than what has been written in kabbalahistic texts on golemns. Also I am a firm believer of your thought empowers it. I imagine if 98% of the people today saw one they would have instant fear and would allow self submission. To the point it comes down to your will, strength and beliefs.

nsawantsmedead, AboveTopSecret 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24741

Yes, draconians and reptilians do exist. I am about 89% positive that they are possessing world leaders and such, but I am 100% positive that they do exist in the fifth demension. The fifth demension can be reached by either

[Paragraphs ommitted for brevity. Seekaro explains that 5 dimension can be observed by astral projection and remote viewing.]

Alright, so you ready to project? This is the only way you will see a reptilian, alien, or draconian...

I reccommend if you are christian..even if you aren't to surround yourself with the blood of jesus. This is crucial. They can hurt you...and they will take you if need be.

Now..I have had astral experiences with these creatures... I have seen a white draconian. and they are nasty my friends...the draco are not friendly. Don't be fooled... Although there is a benevolent race of reptilians underground. Those are the amphibian race*. They are the kind reptilians that mean us no harm. The scaly rough skinned reptilians do mean us harm.

Alright, sorry for the drag, now here is the information.

When I astral project I usually visualize myself going up up up. Just keep on thinking, "Up" then at the same time, visualize where you want to go, and go there...soon it will start to become clear. Then once you are where you are..whether it be New York..Egypt..etc... Ask to see a reptilian..or just astral project underground. You will with no doubt at all see one, but please becareful..

Skeptics out there...this is the only way to see them, unless you want to hunt them down in their human form.

Seekaro, AboveTopSecret 4 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24742

When I was about 7 or 8 my friends and i would play in the woods near the neighborhood, to get to the woods you would have to cross a drain in the middle of the road that you could look down into. One of these days on my way back from the woods I stopped on my way over the drain and stared at this purple-ish long necked creature with it's neck slightly twisted and staring at me. The neck would have to be about 3 feet long, the rest of it's body was in the water. After we stared at eachother for about half a minute he sunk back into the water and I never saw it again. Any similar sightings and/or comments?

Venoaris, AboveTopSecret 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24743

[If there were no passengers on the 4 9/11 flights...]

Hypothetically, it is not unreasonable to ASSUME that these people were actually involved in the events of that day and they were either silenced, or , my pet THEORY, taken to an underground city/lab. ( Too many valuable credentials combined to be coincidence )
Do some research on Denver international airport and you will get my drift.
( the most popular of many )

BTW, are you aware of the report of flight 93 landing in Cleveland that morning ?

JFK, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24744

[On passengers aboard 9/11 flight 83, which crashed in Pennsylvania]

They may be dead, they may be in the South of France enjoying some fine cusine. Or they may be in an underground city (interesting, I thought I was the only one who believed in a complete, functional underground city hehe).

MaryJane69, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24745

[Barbara Olsen was aboard 9/11 flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon. Her remains were identified.]

I heard Barbara Olsen was hanging out with Santa Claus in the North Pole. Oh wait, she is now hiding on the border of the North Pole and the South Pole, amongst a band of penguins...

red, Loose Change 5 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24746

[On the 4 hijacked flights, 9/11]

more obfuscation and let;s roll! mythology.

so much smoke.
Real phone calls? maybe, some....

real flight 93? a plane, indeed, seemd to have fallen out of sky in pennsylvania -- or at least plane PARTS fell out of sky -- but at indian lake, not shanksville crater.


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I do particularly like the idea of one 'real' hijacking perpetrated in order to 'sell' an america-fights-back story..... and as far as phone calls go, you have to break them down one by one for analysis. do not simply say 'either they were all faked, or all true' --- too simplistic.

Given that there were terror drill war games happening on 9/11, it is entirely possible that part of those flight 93 phone calls, and plane movements, were part of a simple drill and script. from WHERE calls were made unclear. Where 93, or it's double, went also unclear.

Look up the great stuff at team8plus on flight 93 -- I have not seen better!

jdolam, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24747

PLEASE READ


Well I feel the two planes that hit the world trade center did not contain any passengers; they were remote;


as far as 93, which landed in Cleveland. They interrogated the people, recording 10 minutes of voice, got their information.

made the fake calls, and plated the fake black box...


then executed them; If you noticed they were the only people who got a "hero" story; they were "heroes" who took down the terrorist.

I think that hero story was made up to honor their names; after being executed.

and the families received money as well.

Airbis, Loose Change 4 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24748

What made that crater in PA.?

Why didnt they admit to taking out flt. 93, surely after the WTC collapsed noone would have argued it wasnt necessary???

How would they know to create that crater? Was this all preplanned? Sure looks it.

FM258 "Defender of Truth" (Board Moderator), Loose Change 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24749

[On 9/11 flight 93]

Is it even physically possible that a plane travelling hundreds of mph will hit sand and "tunnel right in" without leaving any debris above ground? If a plane crashes on the soft beach sand, does it "tunnel in", or does it break into pieces?

I think that can ruled out.

Robo, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24750

[On comparing flight 93 to the Florida ValueJet crash]

dennis_in_nh, don't waste our time with this type of horse nonsense.
You can't even compare this with the so called flight 93 site.

I swear! There’re more stupid Americans then any other Country. Not even! Any common sense, none what so ever.

datars, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/14/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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