Quote# 96255

I have been a proud Englishmen who has been very active in the English nationalism movement for aprox a year and a half.
I have promoted nationalism without racism, and had nothing to do with bthe BNP, this was purely English nationalism.

any way I recently became aware of the Masons/secret societies through David icke and the concerns of them etc (Freedom or Fascism DVD)
I had never came across any one form the Masons or any other secret society in my life, untill recently, to my surprise I find there are quite a few all over the English nationalism movement, some in high places!
I also found a version of the meaning of the Cross of St George through the info on the Masons via David Icke (Freedom or Fascism DVD) it was an un-nerving meaning, of the red cross meaning blood and the white meaning seaman!

I have now cut certain conections to where I have come across the Masons members within the English nationalsit movement, and am looking more into the original White Dragon flag of England which is connected to St Edmund.
Although I will xalm the English nationalsdim down a little now due to my findings and my revalations concerning the secret societies through David Icke.

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Quote# 135968

I know it's fucked up, but this propaganda seduces me quite effectively. The basis being that it's okay to hate, that hatred is a natural human reaction. That love and hate are intertwined. That liberals are wrong, that we don't have to love the things that hurt us and try to destroy us. My only problem is I can't hate people based on skin color. There are white people I like, and white people I hate. There are black people I like, and black people I hate. There are Hispanics I like, and Hispanics I hate. I don't really know any Asians to apply this statement, mostly due to not spending any real time with much at all, but if I did, I'm certain it would be the same thing. Nonetheless, I'm definitely going to start attending right wing rallies and the like. Should be interesting. Perhaps I'm looking for a new family, I think this has something to do with surrounding myself with people who offer a different set of behavioral norms and values, seeing as how my previous family and social networks failed me so thoroughly. Perhaps I want to grow stronger, to gain more experience training for combat, weapons, and firearms. Perhaps I need to be loved, cared for, and supported, but since people go out of their way to guarantee those things don't happen, perhaps I'll find love in the midst of battle, solace in pain. Perhaps this could be why I stoke and antagonize the fires of another civil war. Maybe I want us to be stronger. Maybe I want us to fight. It's clear the left wants this, they've been pushing farther and further with violence since the election. The right is being more tactical, like Stalin waiting for winter. But the Right has begun to push back. I'm not just talking about the bombing of that mosque in Minneapolis or protesters blocking highways being ran over. The left started this, the left wanted this. You could've just accepted the results of the election with dignity but no. You had to beat people unconscious. We haven't forgotten about Chicago either, with the kidnapping and torture of a special needs white guy. Actions have consequences and repercussions. Soon we'll see if you've bitten off more than you can chew. And remember, when you accuse the Right of hate, or being a hate group, that you were the ones initiating violence. You were the ones gunning down Republicans at a baseball game. I say it's time we gave you what you want.

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[Hyperlinks removed]

THE TOP 40
REASONS TO DOUBT THE OFFICIAL STORY OF SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001

… An outline in simple talking points …

We are continuing to compile the best documentation links for every single point on this page, and intend to post the updated version as soon as possible, and create teaching tools and more from the info. This is a significant and time-consuming process–if you have useful links, please send them to janice[at]911truth[dot]org. Thanks for your help!
If you use the search function with title key words, you will discover that 911Truth.org is home to articles backing virtually every point made below. Much of the basic research is available at the Complete 9/11 Timeline (hosted by cooperativeresearch.org), the 9/11 Reading Room (911readingroom.org), and the NY Attorney General Spitzer petition and complaint (Justicefor911.org). For physical evidence discussion, see Point 7.

THE DAY ITSELF – EVIDENCE OF COMPLICITY

1) AWOL Chain of Command
a. It is well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack – George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield, Ralph Eberhart – all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
b. Who was actually in charge? Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.

2) Air Defense Failures
a. The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.
b. Timelines: The various responsible agencies – NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission – gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.
c. Was there an air defense standdown?

3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation”s capital? How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing, execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon? Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side, which was largely empty and opposite from the high command?

4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack – including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.
b. The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were “real world or exercise.” Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an “inside job”?

5) Flight 93
Did the Shanksville crash occur at 10:06 (according to a seismic report) or 10:03 (according to the 9/11 Commission)? Does the Commission wish to hide what happened in the last three minutes of the flight, and if so, why? Was Flight 93 shot down, as indicated by the scattering of debris over a trail of several miles?

THE DAY – POSSIBLE SMOKING GUNS

6) Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001? How many hijackings were attempted? How many flights were diverted?

7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane? Were the Twin Towers and WTC 7 brought down by explosives? (See “The Case for Demolitions,” the websites wtc7.net and 911research.wtc7.net, and the influential article by physicist Steven Jones. See also items no. 16 and 24, below.)

FOREKNOWLEDGE & THE ALLEGED HIJACKERS

8) What did officials know? How did they know it?
a. Multiple allied foreign agencies informed the US government of a coming attack in detail, including the manner and likely targets of the attack, the name of the operation (the “Big Wedding”), and the names of certain men later identified as being among the perpetrators.
b. Various individuals came into possession of specific advance knowledge, and some of them tried to warn the US prior to September 11th.
c. Certain prominent persons received warnings not to fly on the week or on the day of September 11th.

9) Able Danger, Plus – Surveillance of Alleged Hijackers
a. The men identified as the 9/11 ringleaders were under surveillance for years beforehand, on the suspicion they were terrorists, by a variety of US and allied authorities – including the CIA, the US military”s “Able Danger” program, the German authorities, Israeli intelligence and others.
b.Two of the alleged ringleaders who were known to be under surveillance by the CIA also lived with an FBI asset in San Diego, but this is supposed to be yet another coincidence.

10) Obstruction of FBI Investigations prior to 9/11
A group of FBI officials in New York systematically suppressed field investigations of potential terrorists that might have uncovered the alleged hijackers – as the Moussaoui case once again showed. The stories of Sibel Edmonds, Robert Wright, Coleen Rowley and Harry Samit, the “Phoenix Memo,” David Schippers, the 199i orders restricting investigations, the Bush administration”s order to back off the Bin Ladin family, the reaction to the “Bojinka” plot, and John O”Neil do not, when considered in sum, indicate mere incompetence, but high-level corruption and protection of criminal networks, including the network of the alleged 9/11 conspirators. (Nearly all of these examples were omitted from or relegated to fleeting footnotes in /11 Commission Report.)

11) Insider Trading
a. Unknown speculators allegedly used foreknowledge of the Sept. 11th events to profiteer on many markets internationally – including but not limited to “put options” placed to short-sell the two airlines, WTC tenants, and WTC re-insurance companies in Chicago and London. See Billions in Pre-911 Insider Trading Profits Leaves a Hot Trail and Criminal Insider Trading leads directly to CIA.
b. Initial reports on these trades, such as Profiting from Disaster and Suspicious Trading, were suppressed and forgotten, and only years later did the 9/11 Commission and SEC provide a partial, but untenable explanation for only a small number of transactions (covering only the airline put options through the Chicago Board of Exchange).
c. In addition, suspicious monetary transactions worth hundreds of millions were conducted through offices at the Twin Towers during the actual attacks. The German firm, Convar, recovered financial data from hard drives recovered from Ground Zero although the Commission published this FBI briefing on trading in which agents expressed a lack of knowledge and doubt about the data recovery long after the data was transmitted to the FBI. Here is an update on Oh the places you go (when you follow the money).
d. See this interview with Bill Bergman who worked at the Chicago Federal Reserve for over 13 years as an economist and financial markets policy analyst. He was fired when he raised concerns about unusual currency transactions pre- 9-11.

12) Who were the perpetrators?
a. Much of the evidence establishing who did the crime is dubious and miraculous: bags full of incriminating material that happened to miss the flight or were left in a van; the “magic passport” of an alleged hijacker, found at Ground Zero; documents found at motels where the alleged perpetrators had stayed days and weeks before 9/11.
b. The identities of the alleged hijackers remain unresolved, there are contradictions in official accounts of their actions and travels, and there is evidence several of them had “doubles,” all of which is omitted from official investigations.
c. What happened to initial claims by the government that 50 people involved in the attacks had been identified, including the 19 alleged hijackers, with 10 still at large (suggesting that 20 had been apprehended)? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-worldtrade-50suspects,0,1825231.story
d. How did they enter the US? Where did they get their VISAS?

THE 9/11 COVER-UP, 2001-2006

13) Who Is Osama Bin Ladin?
a. Who judges which of the many conflicting and dubious statements and videos attributed to Osama Bin Ladin are genuine, and which are fake? The most important Osama Bin Ladin video (Nov. 2001), in which he supposedly confesses to masterminding 9/11, appears to be a fake. In any event, the State Department”s translation of it is fraudulent.
b. Did Osama Bin Ladin visit Dubai and meet a CIA agent in July 2001 (Le Figaro)? Was he receiving dialysis in a Pakistani military hospital on the night of September 10, 2001 (CBS)?
c. Whether by Bush or Clinton: Why is Osama always allowed to escape?
d. The terror network associated with Osama, known as the “base” (al-Qaeda), originated in the CIA-sponsored 1980s anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan. When did this network stop serving as an asset to covert operations by US intelligence and allied agencies? What were its operatives doing in Kosovo, Bosnia and Chechnya in the years prior to 9/11?

14) All the Signs of a Systematic 9/11 Cover-up
a. 911Truth.Org broke the story that Airplane black boxes were found at Ground Zero, according to two first responders and an unnamed NTSB official, but they were “disappeared” and their existence is denied in /11 Commission Report.
b. US officials consistently suppressed and destroyed evidence (like the tapes recorded by air traffic controllers who handled the New York flights). NEADS recordings damaged during transcription.
c. Whistleblowers (like Sibel Edmonds and Anthony Shaffer) were intimidated, gagged and sanctioned, sending a clear signal to others who might be thinking about speaking out.
d. Officials who “failed” (like Myers and Eberhard, as well as Frasca, Maltbie and Bowman of the FBI) were given promotions.

15) Poisoning New York
The White House deliberately pressured the EPA into giving false public assurances that the toxic air at Ground Zero was safe to breathe. This knowingly contributed to an as-yet unknown number of health cases and fatalities, and demonstrates that the administration does consider the lives of American citizens to be expendable on behalf of certain interests.

16) Disposing of the Crime Scene
The rapid and illegal scrapping of the WTC ruins at Ground Zero disposed of almost all of the structural steel indispensable to any investigation of the collapse mechanics. (See also item no. 23, below.)

17) Anthrax
Mailings of weapons-grade anthrax – which caused a practical suspension of the 9/11 investigations – were traced back to US military stock. Soon after the attacks began in October 2001, the FBI approved the destruction of the original samples of the Ames strain, disposing of perhaps the most important evidence in identifying the source of the pathogens used in the mailings. Were the anthrax attacks timed to coincide with the Afghanistan invasion? Why were the letters sent only to media figures and to the leaders of the opposition in the Senate (who had just raised objections to the USA PATRIOT Act)? Calls were issued to investigate the investigators.

18) The Stonewall
a. Colin Powell promised a “white paper” from the State Department to establish the authorship of the attacks by al-Qaeda. This was never forthcoming, and was instead replaced by a paper from Tony Blair, which presented only circumstantial evidence, with very few points actually relating to September 11th.
b. Bush and Cheney pressured the (freshly-anthraxed) leadership of the Congressional opposition into delaying the 9/11 investigation for months. The administration fought against the creation of an independent investigation for more than a year.
c. The White House thereupon attempted to appoint Henry Kissinger as the chief investigator, and acted to underfund and obstruct the 9/11 Commission.

19) A Record of Official Lies
a. “No one could have imagined planes into buildings” – a transparent falsehood upheld repeatedly by Rice, Rumsfeld and Bush.
b. “Iraq was connected to 9/11? – The most “outrageous conspiracy theory” of all, with the most disastrous impact.
c. CIA misleads FBI about hijackers in US.

20) Pakistani Connection – Congressional Connection
a. The Pakistani intelligence agency ISI, creator of the Taliban and close ally to both the CIA and “al-Qaeda,” allegedly wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta just prior to September 11th, reportedly through the ISI asset Omar Saeed Sheikh (later arrested for the killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, who was investigating ISI connections to “al-Qaeda.”)
b. This was ignored by the congressional 9/11 investigation, although the senator and congressman who ran the probe (Bob Graham and Porter Goss) were meeting with the ISI chief, Mahmud Ahmed, on Capitol Hill on the morning of September 11th.
c. About 25 percent of the report of the Congressional Joint Inquiry was redacted, including long passages regarding how the attack (or the network allegedly behind it) was financed. Graham later said foreign allies were involved in financing the alleged terror network, but that this would only come out in 30 years.

21) 9/11 Commission:
a. The September 11th families who fought for and gained an independent investigation (the 9/11 Commission) posed 400-plus questions, which the 9/11 Commission adopted as its roadmap. The vast majority of these questions were completely ignored in the Commission hearings and the final report.
b. The membership and staff of the 9/11 Commission displayed awesome conflicts of interest. The families called for the resignation of Executive Director Philip Zelikow, a Bush administration member and close associate of “star witness” Condoleezza Rice, and were snubbed. Commission member Max Cleland resigned, condemning the entire exercise as a “scam” and “whitewash.”
c./11 Commission Report is notable mainly for its contradictions, obvious omissions, distortions and outright falsehoods – ignoring anything incompatible with the official story, banishing the issues to footnotes, and even dismissing the still-unresolved question of who financed 9/11 as being “of little practical significance.”

22) Crown Witnesses Held at Undisclosed Locations
The alleged masterminds of 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (KSM) and Ramzi Binalshibh, are reported to have been captured in 2002 and 2003, although one Pakistani newspaper said KSM was killed in an attempted capture. They have been held at undisclosed locations and their supposed testimonies, as provided in transcript form by the government, form much of the basis for /11 Commission Report (although the Commission”s request to see them in person was denied). After holding them for years, why doesn”t the government produce these men and put them to trial?

23) Spitzer Redux
a. Eliot Spitzer, attorney general of New York State, snubbed pleas by New York citizens to open 9/11 as a criminal case (Justicefor911.org).
b. Spitzer also refused to allow his employee, former 9/11 Commission staff member Dietrich Snell, to testify to the Congress about his (Snell”s) role in keeping “Able Danger” entirely out of /11 Commission Report.

24) NIST Omissions
After the destruction of the WTC structural steel, the official Twin Towers collapse investigation was left with almost no forensic evidence, and thus could only provide dubious computer models of ultimately unprovable hypotheses. It failed to even test for the possibility of explosives. (Why not clear this up?)

25) Radio Silence
The 9/11 Commission and NIST both allowed the continuing cover-up of how Motorola’s faulty radios, purchased by the Giuliani administration, caused firefighter deaths at the WTC – once again showing the expendability, even of the first responders.

26) The Legal Catch-22
a. Hush Money – Accepting victims” compensation barred September 11th families from pursuing discovery through litigation.
b. Judge Hellerstein – Those who refused compensation to pursue litigation and discovery had their cases consolidated under the same judge (and as a rule dismissed).

27) Saudi Connections
a. The 9/11 investigations made light of the “Bin Ladin Airlift” during the no-fly period, and ignored the long-standing Bush family business ties to the Bin Ladin family fortune. (A company in which both families held interests, the Carlyle Group, was holding its annual meeting on September 11th, with George Bush Sr., James Baker, and two brothers of Osama Bin Ladin in attendance.)
b. The issue of Ptech.

28) Media Blackout of Prominent Doubters
The official story has been questioned and many of the above points were raised by members of the US Congress, retired high-ranking officers of the US military, the three leading third-party candidates for President in the 2004 election, a member of the 9/11 Commission who resigned in protest, a former high-ranking adviser to the George W. Bush administration, former ministers to the German, British and Canadian governments, the commander-in-chief of the Russian air force, 100 luminaries who signed the “9/11 Truth Statement,” and the presidents of Iran and Venezuela. Not all of these people agree fully with each other, but all would normally be considered newsworthy. Why has the corporate-owned US mass media remained silent about these statements, granting due coverage only to the comments of actor Charlie Sheen?

GEOPOLITICS, TIMING AND POSSIBLE MOTIVES

29) “The Great Game”
The Afghanistan invasion was ready for Bush”s go-ahead on September 9, 2001, with US and UK force deployments to the region already in place or underway. This followed the failure earlier that year of backdoor diplomacy with the Taliban (including payments of $125 million in US government aid to Afghanistan), in an attempt to secure a unity government for that country as a prerequisite to a Central Asian pipeline deal.

30) The Need for a “New Pearl Harbor”
Principals in US foreign policy under the current Bush administration (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle and others) have been instrumental in developing long-running plans for worldwide military hegemony, including an invasion of the Middle East, dating back to the Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations. They reiterated these plans in the late 1990s as members of the “Project for a New American Century,” and stated a clear intent to invade Iraq for the purpose of “regime change.” After 9/11, they lost no time in their attempt to tie Iraq to the attacks.

31) Perpetual “War on Terror”
9/11 is supposed to provide carte-blanche for an open-ended, global and perpetual “War on Terror,” against any enemy, foreign or domestic, that the executive branch chooses to designate, and regardless of whether evidence exists to actually connect these enemies to 9/11.

32) Attacking the Constitution
a. The USA PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11, Homeland Security and the “Shadow Government” were developed long before 9/11, and plans for rounding up dissidents as a means for suppressing civil disturbance have been in the works for decades.
b. 9/11 was used as the pretext to create a new, extra-constitutional executive authority to declare anyone an “enemy combatant” (including American citizens), to detain persons indefinitely without habeas corpus, and to “render” such persons to secret prisons where torture is practiced.

33) Legal Trillions
9/11 triggers a predictable shift of public spending to war, and boosts public and private spending in the “new” New Economy of “Homeland Security,” biometrics, universal surveillance, prisons, civil defense, secured enclaves, security,
etc.

34) Plundered Trillions?
On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced a “war on waste” after an internal audit found that the Pentagon was “missing” 2.3 trillion dollars in unaccounted assets. On September 11th, this was as good as forgotten.

35) Did 9/11 prevent a stock market crash?
Did anyone benefit from the destruction of the Securities and Exchange Commission offices at WTC 7, and the resultant crippling of hundreds of fraud investigations?

36) Resource Wars
a. What was discussed in the Energy Task Force meetings under Dick Cheney in 2001? Why is the documentation of these meetings still being suppressed?
b. Is Peak Oil a motive for 9/11 as inside job?

37) The “Little Game”
Why was the WTC privatized just before its destruction?

HISTORY

38) “Al-CIA-da?”
The longstanding relationship between US intelligence networks and radical Islamists, including the network surrounding Osama Bin Ladin. (See also point 13d.)

39) Historical Precedents for “Synthetic Terror”
a. In the past many states, including the US government, have sponsored attacks on their own people, fabricated the “cause for war,” created (and armed) their own enemies of convenience, and sacrificed their own citizens for “reasons of state.”
b.Was 9/11 an update of the Pentagon-approved “Project Northwoods” plan for conducting self-inflicted, false-flag terror attacks in the United States, and blaming them on a foreign enemy?

40) Secret Government
a. The record of criminality and sponsorship of coups around the world by the covert networks based within the US intelligence complex.
b. Specifically also: The evidence of crime by Bush administration principals and their associates, from October Surprise to Iran-Contra and the S&L plunder to PNAC, Enron/Halliburton and beyond.

REASON NUMBER 41:
RELATED MOVEMENTS AND PARALLEL ISSUES

Ground Zero aftermath movements:
– Justice for the air-poisoning cover-up (wtceo.org)
– “Radio Silence” (radiosilencefdny.com)
– Skyscraper Safety (www.skyscrapersafety.org).

Election fraud and black box voting, 2000 to 2004. (BlackBoxVoting.org)

Lies to justify the invasion of Iraq. (afterdowningstreet.org)

Use of depleted uranium and its multi-generational consequences on human health and the environment.

Longstanding development of contingency plans for civil disturbance and military rule in the USA (See, “The War at Home”)

Oklahoma City Truth movement. (Offline, but not forgotten – May 9, 2008!)

Whether you call it “Globalization” or “The New World Order” – An unsustainable system of permanent growth ultimately requires warfare, fraud, and mass manipulation.

GOING FORWARD …

“But an inside job would involve thousands of people! How could they keep a secret?” Counter-arguments, red herrings, speculations and false information.

Selected essays, books and websites that make the case for 9/11 as inside job. (See Resources)

Demanding a real investigation of the September crimes – Not just a patriotic duty, but a matter of survival.




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Quote# 89959

Multiculturalism has been forced on us. We never voted on it, nor did we agree to it, yet we are called racists and Nazis if we speak out against it. It’s not about hating people because of race or thinking that whites are superior, it's about the long term survival of our people white British people. How much mass immigration and multiculturalism do you see in Africa or the Middle East? The driving force behind multiculturalism is the Zionists. Why? Because they hate the white Europeans and their divide and conquer policy, which has worked well in other countries, while at the same time calling for a Jewish only state in Israel. The Khazarian Jews are not descendants of the Twelve Tribes of Israel and many true Torah Jews are highly-offended at the atrocities these Zionist Talmudic Jews have inflicted on mankind.

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Quote# 116487

[Response to an article claiming that Sandy Hook was a hoax]

Ah yes, the old story of the little boy who see's the reality behind the lie of the "King's New Cloths" and the little boy's all over the world are waking up to the reality behind the lie..

The above article, has given us a time for the Shit hitting the fan, when the Global Gangsters are finally exposed, the bloody clean up will begin, it can also give us a place, for the revolt...................The US?

I said a long time ago, all power is fleeting, sooner or latter, the whole farce of it all is revealed and is exposed for what it all is, a lie.........A Giant House of Cards..

The Liberal/Left are shitting themselves, their all facing the Noose!!

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Quote# 94690

I'm a "birther".

I have taken on that label because for standing up for the Constitution, I'm supposed to be some kind of nutcase akin to a "truther". A "truther" I am not.

But I am a "birther".

Even people on my side of most issues are siding with Oblahma and the MSM on this issue, but there are some very important things that they are overlooking. These things are very important to the future of our Republic and the survival of the Constitution. To dismiss those who take a stand as "birthers" is to simply not care about the Constitution or its future. Think about this:

1. Regardless of the content of Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro's original birth certificate, whether issued in Kenya or Hawaii, he has gone to great pains to keep it from being revealed to the public. This means one of two things: 1. That he was not born in Hawaii, as he claims, or 2. There is something else that would be revealed that would further damage his credibility and/or status as "President of the United States".

2. As a child, Obama traveled to countries where Americans were not allowed to go.

3. As a child, Obama attended school under documentation that showed him as something other than a citizen of the United States.

4. He has openly admitted that his father was not a citizen of the United States.

5. The only other person to hold the highest office in the country without being born of two American citizens also went to great lengths to keep that fact from the public, and that fact was not discovered until many years after he had left office and died. This is evidence that both Barack Obama and Chester Arthur KNEW that they might not be eligible for the presidency under the Constitution. Obama is the first person to take the office in a situation where the public had been alerted to the problem beforehand.

6. There has never been an interpretation by the courts on the definition of a "natural born citizen", and the wording of the Constitution,

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Quote# 101799

JEWS will love to kill PUTIN as they did KENNEDY.

He's NOT following the Jewish script..He is a smart-ass & CHRISTIAN.

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Quote# 108400

The ORIGINAL ANONYMOUS SUPPORTED A DICTATORSHIP AND STILL DIES TODAY
This is what Hampstead is in fact all about


Why did the vatican choose Hampstead?
FOR REVENGE THAT IS WHY

[link to freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com]

Sir William wade Hampstead
Tower of London inquisitor of the gun powder plotters
Hampstead is payback
Opus dei headquarterd in england
They chose Hampstead
As vengeance
The satanic cult is mi5
In conjustion with the vatican
In conjustion with the trators on the biritish govenrment
The judiciary which is under eu vatican judiciary laws
The agiators are annonymous which is a vatican led campagin of further disruption whos motto is the catholic terrositi guy fawke
Whos emobidiment otherwise id the mianstrea truth tellers
Such as icke jonsy boy brand and the rest
Along with the church of england which is in communion with the whore of rome the mother of harlots
Their psyop's invole real not fake , child rape




The Hampstead event
Is mi5 vatican led promotion of child abuse AND IS A PSYOP USING AN ACTUAL CASE OF ACTUAL CHILD ABUSE
Involving the uk government and the vatican
In a place of historical revenge over catholic persecution of the first and
Original ANONYMOUS by ENGLAND CENTURIES AGO
Thread: breaking news BBC exposed helping to cover up child abuse testimony


That is why


Sir william wade Wade and family of Hampstead


William Waad was responsible for the interrogation of the gunpowder plotters in November 1605 and was present at the interrogation of Guy Fawkes, amongst others. Another unfortunate was Nicholas Owen, famous for his expertise in the construction of priest holes; the one at Sawston Hall being the most well known example. Owen was asked to divulge the whereabouts of the priest holes he had constructed at various Catholic houses but he steadfastly refused and died horribly under torture. It is not known if Henry Huddleston was interrogated by Waad for his possible involvement in the Plot, as Nicholas Owen had previously visited Sawston Hall to construct the priesthole. We know Huddleston had to pay a hefty fine and had his Essex estates confiscated. As he had escaped being executed it has been suggested that he may possibly have had a hand in betraying the plotters.

Family and Education
b. c.1546,1 1st s. of Armagil Waad of Belsize House and his 1st w. Alice, da. of Richard Patten alias Wainfleet of London, Clothworker and wid. of Thomas Serle (admon. 11 Jan. 1541) of Essex and London, Butcher; bro. of Thomas†.2 educ. G. Inn 1571.3 m. (1) lic. 15 Jan. 1586, Anne (d.1589), da. and coh. of Owen Waller of Battles Hall and London, Fishmonger, 1s. d.v.p.;4 (2) by 1597, Anne, 1s. 8da.5 suc. fa. 1568;6 kntd. 20 May 1603.7 d. 25 Oct. 1623.8 sig. W[illiam] Waad.

Offices Held
Servant to 1st Lord Burghley (Sir William Cecil†) by 1577;9 agent, Denmark 1582,10Holy Roman Empire 1583,11 Spain 1584, France 1585, 1587,12 Low Countries 1585.13

Clerk of PC 1584-1613;14 commr. to search for Catholic traitors 1594-5;15 muster-master, Low Countries by 1600-16;16 member, High Commission, Canterbury prov. 1601-11;17 muster-master-gen. by ?1599-at least 1620;18 lt. Tower of London 1605-13;19 recvr. and overseer, Cheque of Ire. bef. 1606;20 commr. enforcement of starch monopoly, 1607-9.21

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AN EXCERPT FROM 'I DON'T LIKE IKE!'

Help us offset the losses from Amazon's banning of THE BAD WAR by purchasing a copy of I DON'T LIKE IKE!

JANUARY 1961

EISENHOWER’s FAREWELL TV ADDRESS ESTABLISHES THE COMMUNIST-GLOBALIST MYTH OF THE “MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX"


Still stinging from candidate-now-President-Elect Kennedy’s criticism over his "missile gap," Eisenhower's Farewell Address was delivered in a television broadcast. It remains memorable for advocating that the nation guard against the potential influence of the “military–industrial complex.” Though Ike is always credited with coining the term, his smarter brother Milton Eisenhower and main speechwriter Malcolm Moos were the ones who developed Ike’s “historic” final statement. (20) The canned and over-rated speech had gone through 20 drafts over the course of the several months that it was worked on.

We have already established the shockingly pro-Communist resume of FDR’s beloved Milton Eisenhower. As for speechwriter Malcolm Moos, well, he was just as bad, and just as “red.” Following his work for Eisenhower, Moos went on to write speeches for super Globalist Nelson Rockefeller and also worked for the Globalist Ford Foundation. He capped off his career with a 7-year tour as the President of Minnesota University (1967-1974). During his university presidency, Moos openly encourage leftist “activism” and presided over the establishment of garbage Marxist “majors” in African American Studies, Native American Studies, Chicano Studies, Women's Studies, and the Center for Urban and Regional Studies.

Milton and Malcolm -- what a pair of Marxist beauties, eh? These then were the unseen ventriloquists who put the “historic” words in the dummy Eisenhower’s mouth. An excerpt:

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.” (21)

During the 1960’s / 1970’s Vietnam War era, the term “military-industrial complex” became a favorite cliché of the Marxist long-haired “peace-love-dope” pseudo-intellectual hippy crowd that wrongly blamed this shadowy “complex” for a war which actually originated with Ike’s deployment of “advisers” (CIA) to Vietnam during the 1950’s.

In years since, conservative patriots and libertarians have carelessly adopted the term as well. The problem is, there is not now and nor was there ever any “military-industrial complex” that could “endanger our liberties or democratic processes,” for the simple reason that military generals / admirals and manufacturing CEO’s can neither take America to war, nor dictate the size of defense budgets, nor influence politicians to do so.

Sure, there may be glory-seeking military men and greedy arms manufacturers who, for obvious reasons, love war. But they do not have political power. Globalist media and banking moguls install the politicians and the politicians appoint the military leaders -- not the other way around. Seriously, can anyone cite a single instance in American history in which a general or an armaments manufacturing CEO, acting independently of the political class, dictated our domestic politics or foreign affairs? The answer is, “no,” not even close.

Contrary to Milton and Malcolm’s slogan, it is the banking-government-tax exempt foundation-academia-media-Zionist complex that represents the “acquisition of unwarranted influence” and the “disastrous rise of misplaced power.” But the Eisenhowers didn’t want to talk about that complex because it was the very same power that made them!

As Globalists who believed that the power of the UN military should one day surpass and absorb the US military, it made perfect sense to denigrate the nation’s patriotic military leaders (recall Ike’s hatred for patriotic Generals Patton, Devers, and MacArthur), -- especially the ones feeding JFK information over the concerns they had about Eisenhower’s policies -- as some sort of evil plotters. As Marxists who believed that the government should take over or dictate to private enterprise, it also made perfect sense to cast the captains of the industrial business community as "capitalist" villains.

Put them both together and what do you have? You have the evil, conspiratorial and completely mythical military-industrial complex --- a phantom menace that needs to be brought under the control of the oh-so-benevolent Globalists. Get it? You see, if and when America was to ever fall to a Globalist tyranny (and we are almost there) the only force that could possibly mobilize and save the day at the 11th hour would be the combined power of the business and military communities. If anti-Globalist businessmen-patriots the likes of Henry Ford, Benjamin Freedman and Robert Welch ever “conspired” for freedom with anti-Globalist military-patriots such as George Patton and Douglas MacArthur, it would be all over for The New World Order, and right quick too! And that, dear reader was the “threat” that the Globalist Eisenhowers were really concerned about – a “threat” which has since been expanded to include armed local police and lawful gun owners.

Marxist Malcolm Moos and Marxist Milton Eisenhower worried that a “military-industrial complex” might one day rise to free America from the clutches of Globalism. Dim-witted 'Ike' read the script which they penned.

Mike King, Tomato Bubble 4 Comments [4/2/2017 3:25:45 AM]
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Quote# 55962

TeamSarah has compiled over 15 pages of evidence on file from this conspiracy. Thank you to the extremist liberals who have provided fresh evidence as to what really is going on: that they send in “clones” (false identities) to say and do things that we do not tolerate, and, in the short time it takes us to find and eliminate these posts take a screen shot of them, and then post about it in poorly managed liberal websites, ones that have abandoned all journalistic standards, from which it gets echoes throughout the liberal blogosphere as if true.

Poorly managed sites such as, apparently, the $100 million Huffington Post which seems not to care about even the most basic standards of fairness in reporting. I guess that kind of money can be blinding, but: “What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his (or her) soul“?

Bill Collier, RedState 7 Comments [1/13/2009 12:18:46 AM]
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Quote# 90064

It has been recently revealed that the EPA has far surpassed the dark humor of blowing up kids and people on film that global warming scare-mongers promoted a few years back. In real life, the EPA has been conducting human experiments on people by piping diesel fumes from a running truck mixed with air into their lungs at a North Carolina university. The agency has ginned up yet another green crusade -- the lethal dangers of diesel fumes. They even had a gas chamber set up to accommodate the environmental research project that shockingly recalls the death camps in Poland.

Not surprisingly, the EPA is now in the process of being sued for conducting dangerous experiments on human guinea pigs. The courts will decide whether or not serious laws and practices were violated, including the international Nuremberg Code that was set up after sixteen Nazi doctors were executed for medical terrorism. After the barbaric fallout of Nazi Germany, where many people were treated like experimental animals, the Nuremberg Code was designed to be an international governing set of principles to regulate the practice of human experimentation. The whiff of the Jewish holocaust is therefore unmistakable.

[...]

Rudolf Hoess was SS. The SS was the greenest faction of the Nazi Party. It was run by Heinrich Himmler, who was an animal lover, vegetarian, and organic farming enthusiast. Himmler detested hunting. In an instructional letter sent to Dachau Concentration Camp and Ester-wegen, Himmler stated, "I wish the SS and the police also will be exemplary in the love of nature. Within the course of a few years the property of the SS and the police must become paradises for animals and Nature." In many ways, the SS was Hitler's "green" praetorian guard.

Both Hoess and Himmler belonged to a proto-Nazi wandervogel youth group called the Artamanens. The wandervogels of the early 20th century in Germany were nature-loving youth groups that promoted many green ideas and practices. Artaman basically means "country man," with certain racial-indigenous connotations.

[...]

While no one died in the EPA's gas chambers, the agency is increasingly acting like proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. Under the guise of acting on behalf of everyone's health, the EPA has crossed a pathological line where people have been potentially treated like experimental animals under questionable methods that conjure up the horrors of the holocaust. More telling is the EPA subjected human beings to a concoction of diesel fumes that it already said was lethal. If the EPA were truly concerned about human health, they would not have performed such experiments on more than forty people in the first place.

Mark Musser, American Thinker 19 Comments [10/13/2012 1:03:40 PM]
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Quote# 41109

Dear Amnesty International:

I have been neurologically and neuropsychologically interfered with and actually tortured here in the U.S. (and also in Canada, where I previously resided) for over twenty years by what are apparently very many cult agents on the far-right, some of whom claim association with the 'Reverend Moon' cult (although others are represented as well, including radical 'Christian' mind-control agents and the 'Scientology' cult). A few of these agents have, on occasion, professed 'Australian' origins, for which reason I thought I would send you a message, as well (I am sending messages to several Amnesty International branches, including those in Canada and Korea). Over the course of this long ordeal, I have been prevented from making an income excep in the most nominal form and extensive amounts of money have been extorted from my bank account by direct cortical control and resultant actional or behavioural manipulation.

Please do not contact the police about this, as covert 'police' agents on the far-right are most likely involved in my torture and have affiliations with the radical 'Christian' groups responsible. You may access further information concerning this situation by calling up the material at http://www.crosswinds.net/helsinki/~glennpj, a website at which I have established a set of information pages. My e-mail can be found by accessing the page OVER THE HORIZON and then finding your way, via the buttons there, to earlier pages of the website with e-mail links.

These agents have pressured me for technical details (and innovative ideas) associated with such devices as involve Radio-Nucleonic (i.e. Hyperon) Broadcast Amplification, Supersonic, Turbine-driven Plasma Accelerators, Radio-Saturated Hydrogen Condenser Cell Matrices associated with High-Frequency Electro-Charging Armatures and Catalytically Seeded Hydrogen Vapour Pressure Containment of High-Frequency Oscillation/Electro-Charging form (or) of PASER Enhanced form, Such that a Pion-Enriched Thermo-Nuclear Plasma (and Thermo-Nuclear Evaporate) result, as well as Hyperon/Neutron Diffraction (and Fission Containment Lattices) and their role in Primary Thermonuclear Triggering.

They have further attempted to derive from me various aerospace engineering formulations, including that for a Quantum-Mechanically Structured, pi+/pi- Field-Interacting Engine or a Matter/Anti-Matter Field Interacting Engine of Hierarchically Sequential and/or Quantal/Gradiential Type and Resultant, Differential Output or Propulsion, as well as that for the Thermo-Nuclear Pumps designed to energize such a Matter/Anti-Matter Field-Interaction in Bi-Polar or n-Polar Context. Specifically, they have asked me about the feasibility of using such pumps to energize Matter/Anti-Matter Collider (Field) Processes which are involved in the formulation of this propulsion technique.

The American underworld agents appear to have FIXED the local Amnesty International chapter and other 'help' organizations. These people will not be in position or capacity to believe that 'anything is wrong' here and this is in fact the plan on the far-right; to subvert and neutralize any available assistance to the left. Most chapter members are drawn from artificially fixed or guided population elements. For all I know, the KKK or a similar right-wing organization may even control the local chapter in the background - subtle disguise is the most important part of right-wing puppet-agent operations. They have already proven to me that they can imitate the left and the far-left so that it is possible they can artificially construct and guide pseudo-left-wing agents and even center agencies such as Amnesty, including agents of the American Civil Liberties Union, for example.

Thanks for your considerations

Glenn Johnson

Glenn Johnson, Homicidal Interference 20 Comments [6/18/2008 10:59:51 PM]
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Quote# 90822

About 23 minutes into the briefing, Searcy explained how President Obama, aided by liberal organizations like the Center for American Progress and business groups like local chambers of commerce, are secretly using mind-control techniques to push their plan for forcible relocation on the gullible public:

"They do that by a process known as the Delphi technique. The Delphi technique was developed by the Rand Corporation during the Cold War as a mind-control technique. It's also known as "consensive process." But basically the goal of the Delphi technique is to lead a targeted group of people to a pre-determined outcome while keeping the illusion of being open to public input."

Field Searcy, Mother Jones 10 Comments [11/19/2012 3:31:07 PM]
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Quote# 105397

[On renewed relations between the USA and Cuba]

My opinion is that Cuba has been an ongoing experiment created by the CIA and other nations.
Fidel was a CIA asset and attended school in NYC, just prior to descending from Santiago wielding his machetes and arms.
I always knew this was just like a lab experiment.
I would urge those Cubans that coming here now will be a grave mistake.
If they think for one second they'll be coming here to get freebies, or continue their current way of life, omg. They're highly mistaken.
This is insane!
Stay in Cuba, live off the government, get medical help right where you are. Continue practicing your African-Cuban music, unique to the world and keep rolling them cigar leaves!!!!!

There's no free Cuban sandwiches here!!!!!

What's going on now is that isolated Cubans know Cuban-Americans have a good way of life here and great big houses. Boy are they going to be pissed when they find out Cubans have prospered due to hard work!!!!

Hello

This does not bode well at all. Not for us here, not for anyone here.

Another Obamer sicvk fcked up joke.

natasha77, Godlike Productions 10 Comments [12/21/2014 1:35:20 PM]
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Quote# 134676

#israel supported/supports the ISIS terrorists and tried to destroy Syria. Israel are best pals with Saudi and are helping in the genocide in Yemen. There are not many problems in the world in which Israel are not involved

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Quote# 109783

I can almost 99% guarantee you that Jeb Bush WILL BE OUR NEXT U.S. PRESIDENT IN 2016. The reason why is because criminals have hi-jacked our nation. They've stolen The White House just as President John F. Kennedy warned 10 days before he was assassinated. That's not the main reason they killed Kennedy; but rather, presidential directive 11110 dismantling the Federal Reserve's fraud. The first thing that Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson did after taking Kennedy's position was cancel directive 11110. Still, the Masonic powers behind America's subversion, the international banking cartel and the occult powers (spiritual wickedness in high places) wanted to silence Kennedy and make an example of him (which is why they killed him in broad daylight in a crowded place. They could have poisoned him. You can see the guards back away from the car just before Kennedy is assassinated. With few exceptions, Congress is afraid of the global elite.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 12 Comments [6/19/2015 2:45:05 AM]
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Quote# 55632

It has already long been accepted in Federal Law Enforcement circles ( through correlation of multiple, independent forensic image enhancement specialists employing a myriad of techniques), that President Kennedy was assasinated (in part) by his own driver, Secret Service Agent William Greer (using the standard spook issue CO2 powered ballistic pistol with an exploding “bullet”), under the instruction of an inner Kabal including the vice president.
Mrs. Kennedy was fleeing the vehicle because she instinctively knew where the shot came from. She couldn’t speak out since her son’s life was at risk. Later, the folks at MKULTRA furthered aided in the involuntary ameliorating of her fears through “therapy.”

COMM13, What Killed Kennedy? 16 Comments [1/8/2009 10:43:50 PM]
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Quote# 99950

look up pictures of Barack Obama up until Late July. His haggard appearance and the use of clones/lookalikes coincides with the release of my expose which can be found on the forums under illuminati/secret societies "Psychic powers, mind control, and freemasons."

This pussy got so haggard and evil and keeps mentally attacking my dog. This is absolutely real stuff going on in this world!
Anyway, blacks in power have a different look. Ever notice that? Louis Farrakhan, Malcolm X, Condoleezza Rice, These three baracks. Even my home city Police Chief Charles Ramsey... also atty general Eric Holder. These individuals are of a different genetic stock! I'm sure if we searched in government we'd find more of these Off-black people. Anyway, they are from a world called Escape, and it's actually the moon. Telescopes can only zoom in so far and after that its all B.S. pictures from NASA. Well, you'll hear more about this and mind control in the upcoming years. Philadelphia is a breaking ground for this movement because it is severely infected. Folks know now that psychic and schizophrenia is the same thing! Freemasons and celebrities give people voices. Period. Check this site out : http://ezinearticles.com/?How-To-Kno...You&id=1135093 along with my expose on this forum under illuminati secret societies called psychic powers, mind control, and freemasons. These writings explain what real psychic powers are.

kadaimara75, David Icke’s Official Forums 13 Comments [3/14/2014 3:11:30 AM]
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Quote# 120939

David Bowie Has Been Upgraded and Is Currently Living on Blackstar (Nibiru)

He is living on Blackstar (Nibiru).

He earned his upgrade through his promotion of Extraterrestrial life and the great unknown (Outer Space).

When Blackstar (Nibiru) reaches its closest proximity to Earth once again, he will be the face of contact, and represent the Nibiruians (Our Gods) when the transition occurs.

He was possesed during the creation of Blackstar, the chosen one to plant the seed.

Blackstar (Nibiru) will block out the Sun.

This will be the days of darkness, as the Nibiruians (Our Gods) are beings of the darkworld.

Daniel-Cherry, Godlike Productions 7 Comments [8/6/2016 3:54:43 AM]
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Quote# 120471

BLM Leader Suggests Dallas a False Flag

A prominent figure in the Black Lives Matter community took to Twitter on Friday morning to voice doubts about the previous night's mass shooting at a Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas, Texas. On Friday afternoon, activist Johnetta Elzie suggested the massacre was intended to turn opinion against peaceful protesters. "I will not let go of the fact that I know cointelpro exists," Elzie tweeted, echoing other users who have expressed suspicion over details of the shooting. “From my experience, whenever public opinion shifts to strongly support the movement an act of violence against the police happens,” she also suggested.

Johnetta Elzie, The Daily Beast 5 Comments [7/12/2016 4:48:08 PM]
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