Quote# 24680

The Government is out to get me, and this is why...

okay ill try and make this as short as possible, i know i might get in trouble for this but im writing it anyway to get it out. all this talk on Australian conspiracies has convinced me to. For the past few months my friends have been working on a documentary on UFO's/NWO and general conspiracy related to the Australian government...they have done surprise interviews with officials and politicts all the usual things you would generaly see on a conspiracy documentary.

Here is the complicated and scary part of it, for the past few weeks they have been talking about all this strange and coincidental things that have been hapening to them such as things moved in their house and cars that are parked outside their house for days on end, phone line playing up making noises during calls ect. and just last week they had their house broken into -server smashed, HDD's removed and smashed and all back up smashed. They have contacted the police and they havent even been to make a report on the crime scene. It gets worse, the website i had nearly finished stored on my servers HDD has died (could simply be a coincidence...but a damn wierd one at that)

We may sound ultra paranoid about this, but dont you think its strange that only their work was targeted?

9ine_Lives, AboveTopSecret 2 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24681

Why do you continue to say 'blue screeners' = 'no planners'? Have you considered that maybe a plane did hit but you haven't seen the REAL plane because fake evidence has put forth by our cia infested media. Or have you considered that a plane flew by the towers but did not strike them as IOK suggested and once again video/photographic trickery was put forth to make it look like a plane hit the tower?

In my estimation, none of these theories should be ridiculed given the available evidence.

TheQuest, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24682

Only south tower "impact" footage taken from the west, that I know of, is a low-res clip supposedly taken by a Japanese tourist. Typically, it is posted with a comment like "Is this a UFO taking off to the left, in the middle of the clip?" - to which the obvious response is "no, it's just a bird" - but NO ONE EVER ASKS "is the impact real?" "could this clip have been altered to erase the plane that really flew off to the left?" "Where is the 'third plane' that can be seen in a CameraPlanet clip, emerging on a north course from behind the north tower?" "are the perps providing clips with SOME reality and SOME fakery, and setting up 'straw man' debates to obscure the REAL 9/11 hoax?"...you know, stuff like that!

Ike Ono Klast, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24683

Bigfoot and ET in cahoots???

Okay I picked up a book at the library called "The Big Book of the unexplained" (10/10 in case you wanna know.)

Anyway in the midst of all of its intrigue theres a chapter called the Sasquatch Saucers and it deals with many cases of Bigfeet and Aliens appearing and interacting with each other.

One case involved two men follwoing a saucer to a canyon where it met with several hairy hominids. They turned and saw two of them standing behind them. The things just stared at them for a moment and the men ran.

Another case involved two men who found a small buzzing black box on the ground. They backed off and encountered two Nordics who told them they did the right thing to back away. Then a Bigfoot came out of the bushes and approached the box. It changed frequency and the sasquatch died.


Does anyone know of any other encounters involving sassie and ET? I find it interesting as people often wonder if we were an alien experiment. Maybe we are, and the Bigfoot is only a partial success

JackofBlades, AboveTopSecret 8 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24684

Is time speeding up?

If you think back to when you were a child, time goes by much slower than as you get older. The explanation for this is our perception of time speeds up with age.

But is it possible that 'time' is actually speeding up?

If it was, each generation would not be able to differrentiate the difference in time that they experience compared to the next generation.

Because we only judge in years and minutes, the only explanation of time is hours and minutes. But what happens if hours and minutes are speeding up?

And is it possible to judge time if it is only being distorted in our region of space, or maybe its posssible it happens everywhere in the universe.

shaimaison, AboveTopSecret 4 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24685

Autism Created by the CDC?

I found an article about the possibility of the CDC and a mercury additive that possibly causes autism. Based on no facts at all, im going with my guy and saying that I believe there is a strong possibility of this. Like come on... we all know AIDS was created in some lab, why couldnt this be.

prophetxb, AboveTopSecret 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: CousinTed

Quote# 24686

The pentagon pics I'm more skeptical about. It could just have easily been recreated in a movie studio somewhere. It would be interesting to get a medical examiner's take on these.

style, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: hurdygurdy

Quote# 24688

The only thing I know for certain is that if the current elites are against someone, then they must be on the right track, be it Cynthia McKinney or David Duke.

<>popol vuh, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Delphi Ote

Quote# 24689

I think the focus should be on the fact that there is/was NO PLANES at Pentagon and Shanksville.....

I mean there is no cockpit, no tail, no fusalodge, no wings, no lugage, no engines, no seats, no black boxes, no bodies,....nothing zero. When you ask people to FIND THE PLANE it is impossible....because there is/was none... That way when I share with people the WHOLE ATTACK I ask them to find the planes......the burden of proof is on them to Find the planes...... not me.....

No disrpect to WTC 1-2-7.... but there is to many WHAT IF'S....and HOW COME'S.....big "PUZZLE" there, lots of peices, too much thinking......

***** For the record I think remote control planes and massive military grade explosives brought these buildings down........bush&CO.....planned/carried out/covered it up/blamed it on arab "TERRORIST".......********.

OCMARK, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: WildCat

Quote# 24690

I have saved NewOrleans, hoping that this can let me have this qualification , asks you to investigate senator Miller , finds out shameless E.T!

Everybody may still remember time of general election of 2004 , Democratic Miller, senator of party membership, said:" Some party groupings will the benefit of party grouping establishment is on national benefit ",etc.. I tell you that words were figured out by me. If you do not believe , Can check Miller with the lie detection appearance . This sentence is not that himself thought of definitely, it was others that told him. I tell you whether what should drive you now. You should be driven by justice! You should be driven by the morals! You should be driven by your conscience! Those ones that do not drive you to kill knowing the sense of honour are an animal!If you continue tracing check Miller with the lie detection appearance, you will find that shameless E.T. I will tell you now , the words that I think are not prepared for this shameless animal of Bush. And let you know , though that shameless E.T often performs its prediction ability in front of people, but the time that it predicts will not exceed one year .

Taiwan leader says on February 16,2006 that they prepare to modify national flag and country name! And,They prepare to rename " JIE SHOU house " as" president residence". Now, I remind you again , see ¡î¡îChinese leader is shameless murderer¡ï¡ï the article!

Hang bush!Hang these grafters !
Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's mother prostitution,But he runs to France buys the airplane.The airplane quantity very many but the price have not been few,The sales commission feeds his mother's vagina(Material:This China purchases the French 150 airplanes,Total price 10 billion US dollars,Airplane model including A319, A320, A321.Most expensive A321 retail price is 60 million US dollars.
Before,Wen Jiabao's mother everywhere runs,Because Japanese's airplane throws the bomb)
¡î¡îChinese leader is shameless murderer¡ï¡ï
SARS broke out in December of 2002 in China, but Chinese leader concealed the epidemic situation. Have caused thousands of people's death. Did not announce the epidemic situation until April of 2003. I thought out the method to use protective clothing at this moment. They do not allow me to announce to the outside on breaking my network after knowing. Then take forcible possession of the contribution . These people are a group of shameless murderers! Now, I tell you , if China unifies with the " setting up new national flag , national anthem , national emblem , name of the country , capital , constitution " method , this method was figured out by me! This method is suitable for Korea , S. Korea too. But they use this method, must pass my agreement!Additionally, I hope that South Korean can withdraw army first in America beginning from Iraq.

The unified method of Serbian and dark mountain republic is thought of by me, I have given comment at that time on net , but am deleted by them!They began to follow me in 2001.

¡î¡î¡îDon't believe the ruffian Blair!¡ï¡ï¡ï
because he has no credit to speak . Like Bush, Hu Jintao.To insure own power.Do not hesitate to sacrifice the innocent life! They with E.T along with they the lackey is as , it is being put to torture in the inferno that their final result is sure to.

agame020a, Yahoo! Message Boards 11 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24691

Flight 175 wasn't really UA 175 full of passengers and highjacker miracle pilots. I think everybody agrees on this one, right?

Endgame, Loose Change 6 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24692

I don't believe we need any more evidence than has been generated already to show MOST PEOPLE that the official lies about 9/11 can not possibly be true. As far as I'm concerned, that right there is "success" -- end of phase one.

Now it is time to go on to phase two and three (which we've been doing): That being (1) spreading the word far and wide and (2) forming a real, viable, political COALITION (this is not a right/left issue) that stands in direct OPPOSITION to 9/11 LIES. We have our litmus test: Any politician, bureaucrat, talking head or media that supports the official story can not be trusted or supported and must ultimately be exposed, overthrown and held accountable (Steps four, five and six.)

Now, if Nico can come up with COMPELLING evidence that can be grasped by a mind of average intelligence in FIVE SECONDS or less that proves conclusively that no planes hit the towers, then this can be included in our arsenal of 9/11 truths used to counter the lies.

Painter, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24693

If the FBI releases any video that shows a 757 hitting the pentago, I am moving out of this country.

bluefordmustang, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24694

Can you explain how this "2nd plane" magically "pops" out of thin air, melts into the WTC, then the fuselage comes out the other side practically intact?

Killtown, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24695

I agree with the idea that a real plane, real debris, real bodies would be a clever way to 'sell' the 4 plane hijack myth.

jdyolam, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24696

As you wonder about the passengers for flight 77 that hit the pentagon, I'm wondering about the passengers for flight 93. Just recently I saw a documentary on nat. geographic I believe which was about flight 93 and also the families. I kinda wondered if these people were for real or not...

sg1, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24697

hi i remember reading an article awhile ago about the reoccuring number "11" surrounding the 9/11 attacks. Numerology is highly valued in Freemasonry which President Bush admitted he was a member of. Many presidents in the past were also firm believers in Numerology. Do you think this is the reason, or is it all just one big coincidence? I got this list from http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/wtc/index02.htm

WTC Facts:

* The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

* Each building had *11*0 stories.

* After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.

* September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

* 119 is the area code for Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11, 911 - 119 are opposites - enemies?
11 11 polarity.

* Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11.

* The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11.



* State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union.

* "New York City" has 11 letters.

* "Afghanistan" - 11 letters.

* "The Pentagon" - 11 letters.

* "Ramzi Yousef" - 11 letters (convicted of orchestrating the attack on the WTC in 1993).

* Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11.

* Flight 11 had 11 crew members onboard.

* Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11.


I also remember reading somewhere that there was 911 days between the 9/11 attacks and the Madrid bombings, not sure if thats true or not.

Entropy, Loose Change 13 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24698

JFK Assassination & World Trasde Center Linked?
Why is the Feds and gov. holding back tapes and evidence. The CIA could have been involved with the assination of JFK. This is a possibility. Then why are they holding evidence and not realising it until around 2040? Waiting until all the people during the assination die. Again here in the 9/11 the gov prob altered and relased the tapes. If the goverement had no involvement, they would have freely allowed us to see the tapes. Holding onto the tapes doesen't keep the public secure. They would! probably say its for saftey reasons. This all balony!!! The flight 93 landed and then saw again. This not an allusion. I think theres a connection between this because it would be impossible for these events to happen. The gov is just putting word in our mouths and makin us look like fools.

juswondering, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24699

I usually get mixed reactions. Normally, offline, people are complete idiots who don't even bother to listen to the facts.

Like when I was at my friend's Grandpa's house during Mid-Winter Break

Arcterus: *explains most of the points commonly brought up with 9/11 conspiracy theories* So anyway, that's why I think it was a conspiracy.
Mr.Wheeler: That's outlandish?
Arcterus: Huh?
Mr.Wheeler: It's more than outlandish, it's hilarious.
Arcterus: Great, then you can counter all the points I just brought up!
Mr.Wheeler: .........It's just crazy.
Arcterus: Well I guess that just settles the whole thing doesn't it? If you're going to deny my beliefs, at least provide evidence.

NOTE:His real name is not Mr.Wheeler. I have no idea what his last name is, so I called him that.

But even on the internet, I'll meet the occasional dumbass.

Arcterus, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24700

(Admin from Loose Change, discussing the convenience of admiting CT deniers in the forum):

It's one thing to let people come in and debate until we are more sure of their intentions but it's another animal altogether to let them purposely bog down our efforts. This is not like we are debating art or religion and we have forever. We do not. Our time is limited as are our resources. Wouldn't our time be much better spent to help legit newbies and with activism? Furthermore, we are about to attack Iran, possibly with nuclear weapons and we risk WW3. In the background looms another 911.

TheQuest, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: hurdygurdy

Quote# 24701

We've already lost one city: New Orleans. And I think one of the reasons we lost that city is because those who really pull the strings wanted to see precisely what would happen when a sizeable urban population found themselves under extreme conditions of duress for a period of time. In other words, they recognized that the aftermath of Katrina was an opportunity to conduct a psychological test of an entire subject population.

painter, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24702

[About the airliners used on 9/11]

It's little more than a foil-wrapped kite without a string, that meeting an immovable object would crumple as an accordian , as would a car hitting a large tree.--not FLOAT thru walls like a DOOM video game...

Not only that, but it would change speed substantially, not break the laws of Physics by maintaining the same speed as before impact!

I should have seen it the first time, why didn't any of us catch it right away? Frankly, I think we all should have caught it from the beginning.

I mean, it's not like it's hidden or anything--it is JUST IMPOSSIBLE-I think I must have fallen in love with the pod or something, or more likely it's possible that we were all under some sort of mind control ---we were "told" what we were seeing--so our brains made corrections, ALLOWANCES--maybe we are far more suggestible than we are aware of.

izzy, Loose Change 8 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24703

How am I suppose to live knowing all of this? I've done so much research and now im 200% sure it was orchistrated by government tyrants. Everywhere I go I feel like 'i know something you dont know' its hard to explain. I always had this instictive fear of the corporate world as it was. but now that ive learned about this bad bad thing, my fear is through the roof. im more of a hermit now than ever. Ive never really talked about it w/ anyone yet. Not even my parents. Just today, i flat out told my shrink at the end of the session. I just opened a whole new door to my already existing crazy paranoia. She seems very interested to hear more about it next week, but I really do not know how open-minded shell be about the whole thing. Sorry to say, It felt VERY awkard just spilling those beans. You just dont know how something like that can shake someones nerves. Im afraid im so unstable, i can completely mess up the whole conversation.

NickJ123, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24704

[Where did all those 9//11 passengers go?]

CLEVELAND

Not all of the passengers, but most of them.

woody, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy

Quote# 24705

Maybe the [9/11] passengers never existed, they were all staged.

Conspiracy, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Gravy