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Quote# 24706

Well what exactly do you want me to elaborate? Ive noticed too many people in the so called truth movement blame bush and the neocons for everything, even if their pizza is delivered late. They are nothing in the grand scheme of things, just public hate figures, but very few people question who leads the leaders. As for 9/11, my belief is that all major intelligence agencies colluded to bring about a fascist NWO by speeding up with the 9/11 black op. You think the US is the only country secretly run by hidden forces with hidden agendas? The agents and disinfo artists are designed to bring hate and blame against one group of people, eg. Muslims, Jews, Bush, Neocons....Its all about psychological operations and how they divide the truth movement into bite sized groups so they are easier to dismantle. As for the masons, they are heavily connected to the CIA and MI5 and other major intelligence agencies, you only need to look at their symbolism in their logo's to see the relation. They are just one arm of the NWO but as for the masons directly planning 9/11, why bother? They have their military slaves to do it for them. The current leaders are more scared of the people in the dark who give them their orders then they are of the public. Like I said in another post, the Republicans and Democrats are the same type of people, the Republicans want to build enough hate against Bush then in 2008 they will elect the Democrats who will carry out the same NWO agenda but with a sweeter taste, lets say Hilary 'the evil bitch' Clinton is looking like she will take it, its just fascism with a friendly female touch.

Darko, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24707

When I found out that 911 was a false flag operation orchestrated by our own government, it looked to be a fairly easy task of informing the world. I figured I needed about a week maybe 10 days to get-er-done. The evidence was so overwhelming that a child could look at the evidence and come to its logical conclusion.

Unfortunately this was true in virtually every sense of the word. Children along with teenagers and young adults have the uncanny ability to accept the truth when the evidence is laid out in a reasonable and sequential manner. The older the person is, the harder it is to get them to think rationally and responsibly when it comes to 911 and many other political issues.

RamTime, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24708

[On getting the word out about the "Loose Change" conspiracy video]

Hunger Strike in July, DC
We sit in the mall in DC and display our definence untill national media either shows us dying in from malnutrition or LC is shown on broadcast.

GodblessPretzels, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24709

Random thought. Before 9/11, what if the zionists told our government that they were being attacked and threatened daily by the palestians, arabs, etc. in Israel and their only chance for survival was to get the U.S involved and help them with their war or ELSE. What if the zionists and the zionist in the US administration threatened to use Israel nucleur weopons on the US if the government didnt cooperate?

After all, zionists control almost the majority of our adminintrations, corporations, Media etc.

So our government has to make a deal that will save the most lives. They cant get us to fight in the middle-east simply because Israel needs us to. I mean 'fight the arabs to save the jews' just doesnt fly. So they have to stage an arab attack on the USA that will want us to go fight in the middle-east. The zionists not only get the protection, but their also getting more Israel territory.

What does the USA get out of this? More lives saved and oil.

John F. Kennedy did NOT want Israel to have nucleur weopons. After making that clear, he was assassinated very shortly after. Maybe the zionists are the ones who killed JFK?

Money is the root of all evil. And the zionists have a ton of it.

NIckJ123, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24710

Do you guys think a deranged fan shot former Beatles singer John Lennon?

I don't think so.

Call me crazy and paranoid (Like most of us lol) but I think either an undercover agent or a person that was pro-war killed him.

He was strongly against war, and his lyrics and songs moved America and the entire world in a way never before, and the government was terrified of this.

So, could it have been a undercover agent?

I think so.

BigAl, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24711

I Bleeive This!
2 KC-767s fuleing crashed into twin towers. Explotion to big! Explosives in towers, and fell. Criuse missle jit the oentagon PROOF. flight 93 landed at clevland so UAL175, AAl77 and AAL11 Never flew on 9/11 but 2 KC-767s paited like a UAL and A AAL jet look closely on the photes you can see the house to re fuel. Cruise missle hit the petagon JET FEUL DOES NOT BURN WHITE IT BURN BALCK PHOTS SHOW SOMKE WHITE AT PENTAGON! Thats what I think happend and have a proof for much of what I just said 9/11 hijackers still alive, FBI webstie has a few to many hijackers? The USAF broke the code ofd conduct?

Mike, Loose Change 7 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24712

I think im gonna wait a good 25 years b4 i go into manhattan. I would love to pay my respects but i dont trust the mercury levels.

all this makes me a little paranoid i think.

constitution, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24713

Is this one true?

That the U.S.A. intends on implementing an "air tax" in rural areas within the country?

They apparently will charge an extra yearly fee to residents of the U.S.A. for providing cleaner oxygen for breathing.

Boo, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24714

I don't know if you have heard or not, but universal studios are releasing a movie "dedicated" to the passenger of flight 93. And how they "Overthrew the hijackers and managed to save hundreds of people by crash landing".

[...]

Watching the trailer try and make all this sound serious and truthfull is pathetic, and is probably encouraged by the government :/

Azzer, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24715

[9/11]

Was The Date Chosen to Polarize Us?
Funny that the media was provided with such a conveinient date.

jphudy, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24716

[just part of a long post about how 9/11 was a Zionist plot]

7) The media is controlled by Zionists

One the most important pieces of evidence that Zionists are the masterminds to almost all the world's corruption is that they dominate the media of Europe, North America, and Australia.
No crime network could get away with a crime as enormous as the September 11 attack unless they can suppress investigations and evidence.

The media executives must either be under the control of the crime network, or they must be part of the crime network.

Some people claim that the media companies are helpless victims of a mysterious, nebulous group called the Globalists, or the New World Order, or the Illuminati.

However, until somebody can identify these mysterious people and explain how they force media companies around the world to cover up horrendous crimes, it makes more sense to assume that the media is directly involved in these crimes, and they are among the top members of this criminal network.

The most logical explanation is that the Zionists are promoting other Zionists to top positions in the government, media, banking, Hollywood, and education. The more Zionists they promote, the easier it is for them to take control of the nation and supress evidence of their network.

Didga1113, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24717

my wife has insisted that i see a shrink since i have been posting in this forum... i resisted until now. today was my first session and i think i have fooked the shrink up..i gave him a copy of [Loose Change 2nd Edition] and disscussed issues it raises. at the end he couldn't say i was insane.. so next week when he has watched the dvd i think i will be able to send him round the twist.. ha ha ha

jackchit, Loose Change 4 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24718

On 9/10/01 day before Rumsfeld says 2.3 trillion missing or lost from DOD and cannot be accounted for?? Guess who was Controller of teh DOD, Coincidence?? This would have been biggest STORY ever but then 9/11 came any connection?? maybe

falseflagOp, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24719

[re: The possibility that Oprah might do a 9/11 conspiracy show]

So... I would urge all of you to as calmly and non creepily as possible simply toss the idea her way. It's all about numbers. Just so you know, each e-mail or letter to ANY TV show is counted as some colossal multiple. I don't recall the actual number but it's something like 100,000. That's how Nielsen ratings are done as well. So, no need to butter her ass with talk of her being the second coming. Just a concise and well written note is all it takes.

The chances of it working are slim, but I would say that that's really our only hope.

Dr.Dre'del, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24720

[On the families of 9/11 victims]

Remember most of them have received hush money. The few that have integrity that didn't give into the hush money have different opinions on what happened on 911. Most of which are consistent with ours.

RamTime, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24721

Hijackers on board unproven: As evidence that Arabs were involved in 9-11, the Nidal-Atta connection is not very convincing since there is as yet no incontrovertible evidence that any Arab hijackers were on board or piloted the planes to their target. There is, on the other hand significant evidence to show that

--no human could have piloted Flights 175 and 77 in accordance with the Official Conspiracy Theory, (In that bank into the South Tower at 575 mph, the controls of a Boeing 767 would become almost impossible for a human pilot to handle because of built in Flight Control Computer program.)

--no way for Mohammed Atta or any Arab to trick the USAF to stand down for an hour while they flew around the Northeast, directly over USAF bases without a notice or interception

--no way for jet fuel to burn any hotter than 1110° F.-1740° F. and only when steel is at a temperature of 2000° F-2550° F can it be deformed by heavy force.
steel angle connectors at the perimeter would not be heated any more than 1000° F. because the heat would be conducted away by the steel façade. This is the temperature of a cook stove on medium.

--no way for a carbon nose cone of a Boeing 757 to slam through a foot thick reinforced wall and not leave debris outside the exit point at the Pentagon,
no way for cellphones to function at that altitude and speed, (So who made those calls?)

--no way for a building to fall at the rate of free fall and still encounter masses on the way down.

--a Zionist had won a $3.2 billion lease for WTC 1 and 2 in July and had insured it for $3.55 billion should it be attacked by terrorists. He claimed two terrorist attacks for $7.1 billion.

--Vice President Cheney was in charge of at least 6 training exercises on 9-11, three of which involved real planes simulating hijackings
and so on

Boo, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24722

some speculate that it was jesuits behind the protocols. that it is the jesuit general (black pope) who have, through the centuries, been the head of the one world government. that they have written the protocals but made it look like the jews wrote the protocol. their motive for the destruction of the twin towers is that america would go to war in the middle east and things would be thrown in chaos and like the domino effect america would have to go into afghanastin, iraq, iran, syria, and hopefully a ww 111 would begin. why? so that the third temple would be buildt. either because of a peace settlement or that the dome of the rock would be bombed or both. the jesuits want the third temple buildt- solomon's temple and have a Pope or black Pope of their choosing (anti christ) rule from that location.

wolfsdinner, Loose Change 5 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24723

[On the theory that one or more 9/11 airliners had underbelly missile "pods."]

The pod theory is definitely among the most seemingly outlandish theories out there other than the "no plane" theory, and is likely to have you branded as a "conspiracy nut", but I can't honestly say I find it anywhere near impossible or even improbable. If it is indeed true, then it's smoking gun, irrefutable, solid evidence that the attacks consisted of far more than "Arab hijackers with box cutters".

reno, Loose Change 0 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24724

[about the role of Zionists in the 9/11 attacks]

Personally, I don't have a problem the Judicial.biz site. There is some stories that are speculative and could use additional sources for confirmation but most of their articles are to shed shed light on stories we should know much more about.

For example, if the Columbine kid shooters were Muslim do you think the current press which is Zionist controlled hesitate to exploit it to the fullest? Do you think it not interesting and important to learn that Kleibold and Harris were in fact Jewish? Do you think that the American population would view our middle-east policies differently if they knew the truth of the Columbine shootings, the owner of WTC7 and the WTC complex and who stole over 1.5 trillion dollars from the Pentgaon?

Now, does this mean that Zionist extremists were alone in these incidents and 911? No. But unless we know the COMPLETE truth, how can we possibly deal with what we do not understand?

TheQuest, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24725

[On the theory that one or more of the 9/11 airliners had an underbelly missile "pod."]

I started to take this theory seiously when it became clear to me that they wouldv'e needed a sure fire way to ignite all that jet fuel - ( there was a myth-busters episode on Discovery once where they tried to blow up a tank of gas by shooting at it, and couldn't do it, not even with phosporous tipped tracer-bullets. They decided that the myth that you can blow up a fleeing car by shooting at the gas tank is bunk.)

A "pod" was probably overkill (you don't need a cruise missile to light a cigarette) , but I'm beginning to believe it. They wanted to make sure all that fuel got lit before it spilled all over the place and evaporated.

Sanders, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24726

[Re the FSTDT Conspiracy Project]

This is uh...interesting to say this least. Wish they would have quoted me once but they just took anything that could be taken out of context.

cheers to this

people will do anything to think we are whack jobs. Too bad most of them are gonna really hate themselves one day.

cheansaw, Loose Change 3 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24727

[On a photograph of a woman standing in the hole made by one of the 767s at the WTC. She is about to die.]

BUT LOOK AT HER OUTFIT, 100% ASBESTOS CHINOS WITH A LOVELY MATCHING FLAME RETARDANT CABLE KNIT V NECK SWEATER.

THAT OUTFIT IS HOT, HOT, HOT!

popul yuh, Loose Change 5 Comments [4/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24687

Why can the public not all we get is someone tell us what is on the flight record? Is there a web site that as this tape. I would like to hear it myself, why is that only plople in the courtroom. No one know who is on the jury. The only preson the media the I have see looks like his readed a script. No one as said nothing about the crash site why is they no plane what so ever there.

cam, Loose Change 1 Comments [4/12/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24733

just spread the word...i say this alot in here because i know not everyone sees it, so i'll say it again because its a good idea..

WRITE WEBSITE ADDRESSES TO 9/11 TRUTH ON YOUR MONEY...EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MONEY YOU HAVE

its their weapon against us, so might as well use their own weapon against them

moya fia, Loose Change 2 Comments [4/7/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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