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Evil Bible Allegation: God now commands that all women must have health hazardous labors for Eve ate the fruit. In no way shape or form is it just that I must pay for the sins of my ancestors. Genesis 3:16
The Refiner's Fire Response:
Who said life was fair? If you tell your kid not to play with matches because a resulting fire will burn and scar you for life, and your kid willfully disobeys and ends up setting the house on fire - what happens? He not only incurs your wrath because you now have no house and you're out on the street, not to mention, you have a horribly disfigured kid who will cost you an arm and a leg in medical bills. Is it fair that your kid made you suffer? Is it fair that a pedophile father makes his son or daughter to suffer at his hands? If is fair that man has caused the extinction of many beautiful animals, just because he wanted to have their head hanging on his den wall? Was it fair of Hitler to exterminate six million Jews just because he felt they were a threat?
God is the Creator. He is in charge; man is not! When our parents command us to do something, we are to do it, no questions asked. If they say, "don't do drugs," then DON'T do drugs because it's for your own good!
God gave ONE SINGLE command in the Garden of Eden: Genesis 2: 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die. And man couldn't even keep that one commandment - let alone the 613 He gave to the Jews, and later on the Ten Commandments, which most people today feel don't even pertain to them!
Adam and Eve disobeyed about something really major - something that affected ALL their future offspring - and they deserved punishment for it, don't you think? They had been living a perfect, stress-less life, and the only thing God demanded was that they not to eat from a particular tree because it would open their eyes to things that would open the proverbial "can of worms" that has become our world today: decadent behavior (divorce rate is through the roof, there's rampant homosexuality, senseless murders via drive-by shootings, etc., and there were even kooks raping, pillaging, and plundering immediately after Hurricane Katrina hit! Since the beginning, there has been endless strife in this world, along with lots of pain and suffering, famine, death, and wars caused by the hand of man who thinks he knows everything.....)
Not only did Adam and Eve disobey God's one simple command, but in the process, they gave birth to the first "blame game" because they now KNEW "good and evil"):
Genesis 3:
1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "
4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"
10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid."
11 And he said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?"
12 The man said, "The woman you put here with me - she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it."
13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?"
The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." 17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. 18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. 19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."
(If the above sounds silly to you, it's because you can't understand the things of God with your limited, human mindset. Unless we have the Holy Spirit residing in our souls, we CANNOT understand God. Web masters such as the one at Evil Bible are living proof of that! The thing is, it's all REAL, and the proof is in the fact that HUNDREDS of Bible prophecies have come true over the last few thousand years and are unfolding before our very eyes!)
God had every right to be angry and to punish the Adam and Eve for their disobedience. After all, they had just ruined the future of mankind! In His fury, rather than to put Adam and Eve to death, however, He gave them animal skins with which to cover their nakedness (because, along with everything else, they had now been made aware of "shame"). This was a picture of the first "blood covering". (God has always required blood sacrifices to atone for sin. This is because, as He tells us in Leviticus 17:11 - For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life. and Deuteronomy 12:23 - But be sure you do not eat the blood, because the blood is the life, and you must not eat the life with the meat. Blood is the symbol of life. It nourishes our own bodies and that of our unborn children. Without it, we die and turn to dust.)
Genesis 3:
21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
People seem to overlook the fact that the "serpent" himself, was thrown out of heaven for trying to be "like God". NOBODY is God but GOD Himself! Adam and Eve, rather than to heed their CREATOR, decided to heed the serpent, instead, thus condemning all following generations to have to deal with "the knowledge of good and evil".
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refiners fire 15 Comments [3/30/2016 6:29:16 PM]
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